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  • @dendy said:

    Btw as you see on my screenshot you can map not only Obsidan/AU intrument macro kbobs but also most of paramters of stock plugins .. All that setings is saved as default template for selected midi input

    Excellent - thanks for the info.

  • edited July 2023

    @iansainsbury said:
    Question for the NS2 power users (@dendy, @drez etc). Have you found a small midi keyboard with knobs that maps really easily to NS2? It's one thing I've never really tried, but I prefer twisting knobs and pulling real faders to touching glass (apart from the drag handles, of course!)

    I have a Novation Launchcontrol XL for the NS2 Mixer (with Pan and 2 Sends for 8 Tracks) and some controls i use in AUM. Still use a Keystep 37 but it only has 4 knobs. The Minilab MK2 i will buy has drumpads and 16 knobs; ideal for NS2 IMHO.Why i love the Arturia Keys: the MIDI channels can be selected very easily on the fly and the drumpads in the Minilab have their own channel AFAIK.
    I run some stuff in AUM, and NS2 and the iM1 as IAA devices into AUM. The cool thing in AUM is that i can trigger the different IAA Apps to the forground with a CC from the Launchpad.

  • @iansainsbury said:
    Question for the NS2 power users (@dendy, @drez etc). Have you found a small midi keyboard with knobs that maps really easily to NS2? It's one thing I've never really tried, but I prefer twisting knobs and pulling real faders to touching glass (apart from the drag handles, of course!)

    I never use a controller with any iOS stuff. I just use glass, either my phone or iPad. If I need to hook up a controller then, for me, it defeats the purpose of a mobile platform. If I wanna use knobs, then I pull out the Push 3 or Elektrons. THAT SAID, I have hooked up my iPhone to the digitakt and sequenced stuff from the elektron with a synth running in AUM, but in the end, it was just too much trouble. I want my mobile experience mobile and no fuss. Fuss is for desktop :)

  • @Pummelfee said:

    @iansainsbury said:
    Question for the NS2 power users (@dendy, @drez etc). Have you found a small midi keyboard with knobs that maps really easily to NS2? It's one thing I've never really tried, but I prefer twisting knobs and pulling real faders to touching glass (apart from the drag handles, of course!)

    I have a Novation Launchcontrol XL for the NS2 Mixer (with Pan and 2 Sends for 8 Tracks) and some controls i use in AUM. Still use a Keystep 37 but it only has 4 knobs. The Minilab MK2 i will buy has drumpads and 16 knobs; ideal for NS2 IMHO.Why i love the Arturia Keys: the MIDI channels can be selected very easily on the fly and the drumpads in the Minilab have their own channel AFAIK.
    I run some stuff in AUM, and NS2 and the iM1 as IAA devices into AUM. The cool thing in AUM is that i can trigger the different IAA Apps to the forground with a CC from the Launchpad.

    Looks good, thanks.

  • edited July 2023

    @drez said:

    @iansainsbury said:
    Question for the NS2 power users (@dendy, @drez etc). Have you found a small midi keyboard with knobs that maps really easily to NS2? It's one thing I've never really tried, but I prefer twisting knobs and pulling real faders to touching glass (apart from the drag handles, of course!)

    I never use a controller with any iOS stuff. I just use glass, either my phone or iPad. If I need to hook up a controller then, for me, it defeats the purpose of a mobile platform.

    This is how I feel about having to hook up a dongle that sticks out of the middle of my ipad which for me totally kills it being a mobile platform. How am I supposed to walk and use this thing horizontally while making music? If only they moved the port to where the headphone jack used to be. The fact they chose the middle for the singular port boggles my mind. Maybe if I get a new phone I guess it might be easier to handle with the dongle (ugh I can barely even say the d word) then NS2 will have a walkabout renaissance for me but iPad is a dead mobile music (defined as used while walking) platform for me.

  • edited July 2023

    @drez said:
    Fuss is for desktop :)

    golden truth !
    But Logic managed to bring that fuss from desktop to ios a little bit :trollface:

  • @drez said:

    @iansainsbury said:
    Question for the NS2 power users (@dendy, @drez etc). Have you found a small midi keyboard with knobs that maps really easily to NS2? It's one thing I've never really tried, but I prefer twisting knobs and pulling real faders to touching glass (apart from the drag handles, of course!)

    I never use a controller with any iOS stuff. I just use glass, either my phone or iPad. If I need to hook up a controller then, for me, it defeats the purpose of a mobile platform. If I wanna use knobs, then I pull out the Push 3 or Elektrons. THAT SAID, I have hooked up my iPhone to the digitakt and sequenced stuff from the elektron with a synth running in AUM, but in the end, it was just too much trouble. I want my mobile experience mobile and no fuss. Fuss is for desktop :)

    Not the case for me.

    Got more mapping than Thomann has synths but use glass where applicable.

    Dual mononke to ec4 for example is like 2 x lyra 8.

    Then theres Thermo synth that needs a controller really because the frequencies jump. It does still even with a controller.

    Swing per track via midi is cool.

    Even pans. If for some reason ( maybe buses ) Solo dosent work.

    You can pan drums to identify a sound. Rather than leaving screen to mixer view etc.

  • Send amounts to resonators etc. Whilst then tweaking the resonator.

    You just wouldnt be able to control the same on drums, flicking through tracks.

    You could complete, with automation but dosent feel like hardware.

  • @iansainsbury said:

    @rs2000 said:

    @iansainsbury said:
    Nanostudio was one of my first apps - it taught me so much about electronic music production. And it was fun! NS2 is probably enough to keep me busy for the rest of my life, if I actually devoted the time to it. These days, I'm using more hardware, but this thread has inspired me to dive back into NS2. It's such a fantastic environment to make music in. And drag handles are the best way to edit midi - beatmaker copied it. I'm surprised it's not standard now.
    Question for the NS2 power users (@dendy, @drez etc). Have you found a small midi keyboard with knobs that maps really easily to NS2? It's one thing I've never really tried, but I prefer twisting knobs and pulling real faders to touching glass (apart from the drag handles, of course!)

    Arturia Keystep 37. Add a Korg Nanokontrol if you need more buttons, knobs and especially faders.

    I sold one of those! Really good, but too long to put in a backpack. Also, would prefer something that can run on batteries.

    Sounds like you want a Korg Nanokey studio. The downside with the Korg midi controllers is you need a Windows or Mac computer if you want to change the settings/scenes. They have rechargeable batteries and can connect via bluetooth.

  • @drez said:
    I never use a controller with any iOS stuff. I just use glass, either my phone or iPad. If I need to hook up a controller then, for me, it defeats the purpose of a mobile platform. If I wanna use knobs, then I pull out the Push 3 or Elektrons. THAT SAID, I have hooked up my iPhone to the digitakt and sequenced stuff from the elektron with a synth running in AUM, but in the end, it was just too much trouble. I want my mobile experience mobile and no fuss. Fuss is for desktop :)

    Fair point. But I particularly hate playing keys on glass (I'm a piano player). I might just go for the Arturia microlab, keep it simple, and use the stylus for onscreen knobs.

  • @mjm1138 said:

    Sounds like you want a Korg Nanokey studio. The downside with the Korg midi controllers is you need a Windows or Mac computer if you want to change the settings/scenes. They have rechargeable batteries and can connect via bluetooth.

    Ah - I have one, but it's a pretty grim experience to play, and the keys have started breaking. I've bought an Arturia microlab, which draws its tiny amount of power from the ipad. The Arturia keybed is pretty nice.

  • At this point if I buy anything , I’m buying it for what it does now. Future updates are great and very much welcomed but there’s just no guarantee an app will be maintained, even if the developer has the best intentions. If what NS2 does now interest you then buy it, don’t buy it hoping for audio tracks to be added. Tbh I think at some point you will have to not keep up with the latest OS to keep using it.

  • @iansainsbury said:

    @mjm1138 said:

    Sounds like you want a Korg Nanokey studio. The downside with the Korg midi controllers is you need a Windows or Mac computer if you want to change the settings/scenes. They have rechargeable batteries and can connect via bluetooth.

    Ah - I have one, but it's a pretty grim experience to play, and the keys have started breaking. I've bought an Arturia microlab, which draws its tiny amount of power from the ipad. The Arturia keybed is pretty nice.

    Arturia does a great job, I love my Minilab 3 and my KeyStep Pro for both iPad and Mac. Just be careful with their bundled software. Analog Lab led me down a path of spending a ton of money on Arturia plugins for my Mac ;)

  • @mjm1138 said:

    @iansainsbury said:

    @rs2000 said:

    @iansainsbury said:
    Nanostudio was one of my first apps - it taught me so much about electronic music production. And it was fun! NS2 is probably enough to keep me busy for the rest of my life, if I actually devoted the time to it. These days, I'm using more hardware, but this thread has inspired me to dive back into NS2. It's such a fantastic environment to make music in. And drag handles are the best way to edit midi - beatmaker copied it. I'm surprised it's not standard now.
    Question for the NS2 power users (@dendy, @drez etc). Have you found a small midi keyboard with knobs that maps really easily to NS2? It's one thing I've never really tried, but I prefer twisting knobs and pulling real faders to touching glass (apart from the drag handles, of course!)

    Arturia Keystep 37. Add a Korg Nanokontrol if you need more buttons, knobs and especially faders.

    I sold one of those! Really good, but too long to put in a backpack. Also, would prefer something that can run on batteries.

    Sounds like you want a Korg Nanokey studio. The downside with the Korg midi controllers is you need a Windows or Mac computer if you want to change the settings/scenes. They have rechargeable batteries and can connect via bluetooth.

    NanoKey Studio knobs only send Midi Ccs in increments of two. Some people are bothered by only having 128 values to step through. NKD has effectively only 64.

    That doesn’t bother me all that much, but just putting it out there in case it’s important to anyone.

  • @wim said:

    @mjm1138 said:

    @iansainsbury said:

    @rs2000 said:

    @iansainsbury said:
    Nanostudio was one of my first apps - it taught me so much about electronic music production. And it was fun! NS2 is probably enough to keep me busy for the rest of my life, if I actually devoted the time to it. These days, I'm using more hardware, but this thread has inspired me to dive back into NS2. It's such a fantastic environment to make music in. And drag handles are the best way to edit midi - beatmaker copied it. I'm surprised it's not standard now.
    Question for the NS2 power users (@dendy, @drez etc). Have you found a small midi keyboard with knobs that maps really easily to NS2? It's one thing I've never really tried, but I prefer twisting knobs and pulling real faders to touching glass (apart from the drag handles, of course!)

    Arturia Keystep 37. Add a Korg Nanokontrol if you need more buttons, knobs and especially faders.

    I sold one of those! Really good, but too long to put in a backpack. Also, would prefer something that can run on batteries.

    Sounds like you want a Korg Nanokey studio. The downside with the Korg midi controllers is you need a Windows or Mac computer if you want to change the settings/scenes. They have rechargeable batteries and can connect via bluetooth.

    NanoKey Studio knobs only send Midi Ccs in increments of two. Some people are bothered by only having 128 values to step through. NKD has effectively only 64.

    That doesn’t bother me all that much, but just putting it out there in case it’s important to anyone.

    Good data point, I didn’t know that. TBH I have a Nanokontrol Studio but not a Nanokey. I don’t know if it’s the same situation on both devices but tbh I haven’t noticed if it is. For most parameters yeah, I’m probably not going to be able to discern more than 64 levels of variance. I am far from a golden ear :smile:

  • @mjm1138
    For most parameters yeah, I’m probably not going to be able to discern more than 64 levels of variance. I am far from a golden ear

    try set filter resonance to high value and then fo slow cutoff sweep.. stepping will punch you into ears.. it’s bad even with 128 steps if synth doesn’t have parnetets change smoothing :))

  • @mjm1138 said:

    @iansainsbury said:

    @mjm1138 said:

    Arturia does a great job, I love my Minilab 3 and my KeyStep Pro for both iPad and Mac. Just be careful with their bundled software. Analog Lab led me down a path of spending a ton of money on Arturia plugins for my Mac ;)

    I’m aware of that rabbit hole!

  • edited July 2023

    @dendy said:

    @Luxthor said:
    NS2 is a complete solution for music making, period.

    :heart:

    Recent discussion kicked me to start working on new Obsidian patch bank :-) Be prepared on 150-200 new presets few months from now, “Synthetic Autumn II.” is coming 🤣

    Yesssss

  • @mjm1138 said:

    @wim said:

    @mjm1138 said:

    @iansainsbury said:

    @rs2000 said:

    @iansainsbury said:
    Nanostudio was one of my first apps - it taught me so much about electronic music production. And it was fun! NS2 is probably enough to keep me busy for the rest of my life, if I actually devoted the time to it. These days, I'm using more hardware, but this thread has inspired me to dive back into NS2. It's such a fantastic environment to make music in. And drag handles are the best way to edit midi - beatmaker copied it. I'm surprised it's not standard now.
    Question for the NS2 power users (@dendy, @drez etc). Have you found a small midi keyboard with knobs that maps really easily to NS2? It's one thing I've never really tried, but I prefer twisting knobs and pulling real faders to touching glass (apart from the drag handles, of course!)

    Arturia Keystep 37. Add a Korg Nanokontrol if you need more buttons, knobs and especially faders.

    I sold one of those! Really good, but too long to put in a backpack. Also, would prefer something that can run on batteries.

    Sounds like you want a Korg Nanokey studio. The downside with the Korg midi controllers is you need a Windows or Mac computer if you want to change the settings/scenes. They have rechargeable batteries and can connect via bluetooth.

    NanoKey Studio knobs only send Midi Ccs in increments of two. Some people are bothered by only having 128 values to step through. NKD has effectively only 64.

    That doesn’t bother me all that much, but just putting it out there in case it’s important to anyone.

    Good data point, I didn’t know that. TBH I have a Nanokontrol Studio but not a Nanokey. I don’t know if it’s the same situation on both devices but tbh I haven’t noticed if it is. For most parameters yeah, I’m probably not going to be able to discern more than 64 levels of variance. I am far from a golden ear :smile:

    I think tha NanoKontrol Studio is full resolution. It’s only the NanoKey Studio that has the low rez knobs.

  • @iansainsbury said:

    @mjm1138 said:

    @iansainsbury said:

    @mjm1138 said:

    Arturia does a great job, I love my Minilab 3 and my KeyStep Pro for both iPad and Mac. Just be careful with their bundled software. Analog Lab led me down a path of spending a ton of money on Arturia plugins for my Mac ;)

    I’m aware of that rabbit hole!

    Indeed. But given how Arturia is probably the best in the business at offering ever better deals (of good software) to existing customers as they buy more stuff, I fully welcome this specific rabbit hole. 👌

  • @ervin said:

    @iansainsbury said:

    @mjm1138 said:

    @iansainsbury said:

    @mjm1138 said:

    Arturia does a great job, I love my Minilab 3 and my KeyStep Pro for both iPad and Mac. Just be careful with their bundled software. Analog Lab led me down a path of spending a ton of money on Arturia plugins for my Mac ;)

    I’m aware of that rabbit hole!

    Indeed. But given how Arturia is probably the best in the business at offering ever better deals (of good software) to existing customers as they buy more stuff, I fully welcome this specific rabbit hole. 👌

    Yeah, considering what I got for what I paid, no regrets. 😃

  • I just put Nanostudio 2 on my Mac. Mostly just to see if it would work, seems like it does pretty well.
    But I can’t figure out how to get a saved Project file from the iPad and open it in the Mac version. Tried exporting an Archive file to iCloud and opening from there, but no luck.

    Anyone done this successfully and know what the trick is? Dropbox? Something else?

  • So is Nanostudio 2 the easiest, most intuitive, and dare-I-say even fun way to create music via MIDI on iOS?

    I own lots of apps and software with MIDI editors, grids, and piano rolls. I have to say it is the input and editing of MIDI notes that not only frustrates me a lot while learning about a tool, but is the buzzkill that makes me eventually stop using the tool.

  • I believe you cannot beat it as an all inclusive “get shit done” environment. Slate for drums and Obsidian for synth is all one needs to write songs. Its mixer and automation is fantastic as well. Piano roll…perfect.

    Dunno, I use it on my iPhone 11 Pro and don’t long for anything else /shrug.

    BUT your music genre makes a difference. If I was recording a bunch of audio for guitars, for example, I would not recommend.

  • @pricklyrobot said:
    I just put Nanostudio 2 on my Mac. Mostly just to see if it would work, seems like it does pretty well.
    But I can’t figure out how to get a saved Project file from the iPad and open it in the Mac version. Tried exporting an Archive file to iCloud and opening from there, but no luck.

    Anyone done this successfully and know what the trick is? Dropbox? Something else?

    Enable WebDAV in NS2 and mount the link on your Mac (choose "as Guest").
    I'm using the Commander One file manager but others should work too.
    Everything is there, including the project folders, MIDI files, samples.

  • @joegrant413 said:
    So is Nanostudio 2 the easiest, most intuitive, and dare-I-say even fun way to create music via MIDI on iOS?

    Seems to be, mate.

    I own lots of apps and software with MIDI editors, grids, and piano rolls. I have to say it is the input and editing of MIDI notes that not only frustrates me a lot while learning about a tool, but is the buzzkill that makes me eventually stop using the tool.

    I feel the same way. It's why, despite how much I love Cubasis 3, it isn't the app I use for programming MIDI. If Nanostudio 2 were to ever disappear however, then I would use Cubasis 3 for everything but the mastering stage.

    Then again, as @drez said, genre makes a difference. NS2 is definitely not for multitrack recording like Logic and CB3 are.

    I made the instrumental for my recent Folk song "I Love You" in Garageband since I was looking for something more acoustic sounding. Recorded the vocals and mixed them into the instrumental in CB3. Two things NS2 cannot do (and probably never will since its dev Matt moved on to greener pastures in his career).

    But since I mostly work with electronic music, NS2 and Koala Sampler standalone have been staples in my workflow. :)

  • edited January 2024

    I do most of my work in NS2, including audio, and I’m not really making what you can label electronic music (even if it is technically electronic music).
    I recently started to export the stems in LP4i. Best of the two worlds.

    NS2 is simply the best for midi sequencing, and Obsidian one of the best do it all synth/sampler.

  • Linear DAWs usually have audio tracks; NS2 doesn’t. So in my mind NS2 is more comparable to things like Drambo and Gadget, which also don’t have proper audio tracks, but are very powerful in what they do.

  • Plus 1 for ns2. There are parts that I don’t like about it though.

    You cant make a general outline in midi, then tweak and jam along with it. Once you have your composition, you exit the editor and export the clip. The end.

    So I recently heard about and am playing with using aum and xequence with a 6 channel template (instructions in the xeq manual). So if you’re used to aum and want some complex midi accompaniment, while tweaking, editing and recording as long as you want, I think this is a good way.

  • Thanks, folks!

    TBH, when all is said and done, my best work flow ATM is this:

    • Sketch an idea, typically away from any laptop or studio: OP-1

    • Flesh out the music: MPC with keys

    • Polish and finish (if I bother): Reaper

    It'd be great if the sketching tool could export MIDI. AFAIK, NS2 does that. I really don't care if the original sketched idea gets completely reworked. I just want to take it to the next step with as little fuss as possible.

    The OP1 has helped me start more songs than anything else. Despite not recording MIDI, and not always being handy. My iOS is always handy and I have a tone of laudable music-making apps. Not to happy to say it, but I haven't stuck with any so far.

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