Loopy Pro: Create music, your way.

What is Loopy Pro?Loopy Pro is a powerful, flexible, and intuitive live looper, sampler, clip launcher and DAW for iPhone and iPad. At its core, it allows you to record and layer sounds in real-time to create complex musical arrangements. But it doesn’t stop there—Loopy Pro offers advanced tools to customize your workflow, build dynamic performance setups, and create a seamless connection between instruments, effects, and external gear.

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Nanostudio 2 in 2023. Buy or pass

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  • @espiegel123 said:
    One could conceivably workaround NS2’s lack of external audio input by using KQ Voice Plugin to forward the audio from another host

    I think I may have tried that before, but didn't have success. I should try again.

  • wimwim
    edited October 2024

    @yellow_eyez said:
    Oh yeah! LP inside NS2!!!! Good call wim

    Looks like NS2 is now complete :)

    Not really if you work a lot with live audio. Needing to record externally and "importing" isn't ideal. It's enough of a disruption to my creative process that I just don't go there.

    That's why many people just record to Obsidian or Slate. That's a workflow I just can't get myself to gel with though.

  • Oh I thought that import limitation was re; multi track

    Yeah , no, that doesn’t work at all
    (I would be recording live guitars and keys )

  • @dendy said:
    NS2 is in discount for $5????

    Oh. This makes me just incredibly sad how this project ended. Like, i am glad for Matt he has proper job and probably much more time for family, of course.

    But it makes me incredibly sad for NS, cause for me this had so big potential, for me this was the kind of project you see once per lifetime :-((

    Plenty of other apps out there which do amazing things, but nothing can quite top NS2 for me personally. Very much the best of the best. Sometimes I need a break from it when creatively drained and try a different workflow, but that's very rare when that happens. I just love how easy and intuitive everything is in NS2. :)

  • For $5 you can’t beat this app. Best $5 sales deal on an app…

  • Hosting NanoStudio2 inside Loopy Pro is perhaps one option. Yes, you only get a single stereo output from, NS2, but I don't see that as a huge limitation as you can do all the mixing and FX hosting you like inside NS2 and the rest in Loopy Pro.

    The unfortunate thing is NS2 doesn't seem to send or receive song position pointer (SPP), so Loopy's timeline can't be used in conjunction with it. On the other hand, if Link is enabled, Loopy Pro can follow NS2's tempo track.

  • @yellow_eyez I agree, best deal around at the moment👍

  • @yellow_eyez said:
    For $5 you can’t beat this app. Best $5 sales deal on an app…

    Agreed 💯. I made my last EP at the moment in it as well as remade my old track "Scarlet" in it recently. I'm still unsure the new direction of my music, but I'm still sticking with NS2. And it's only a fiver now? That's definitely a "no brainer".

  • @espiegel123 - I haven't found any way to use the KQ Loopback plugin to get audio into NS2. I thought I would be able to place Loopback In as an FX in Loopy Pro, then Loopback Out as an AU instrument in NS2. The Loopback Out plugin is listed in NS2, but there doesn't seem to be any way to add it to the track.

    There's no way to get external audio to an AU FX in NS2, so I can't see any other way to make use of the Loopback plugin.

    If you have any ideas I'm up for trying them out.

  • @wim said:
    @espiegel123 - I haven't found any way to use the KQ Loopback plugin to get audio into NS2. I thought I would be able to place Loopback In as an FX in Loopy Pro, then Loopback Out as an AU instrument in NS2. The Loopback Out plugin is listed in NS2, but there doesn't seem to be any way to add it to the track.

    There's no way to get external audio to an AU FX in NS2, so I can't see any other way to make use of the Loopback plugin.

    If you have any ideas I'm up for trying them out.

    Put Loopback In as an effect in loopy pro on the channel to send.

    In NS2, add a track and choose Loopback Out as the instrument

    You can then set loopy pro AU or multitrack recorder or whatever as an effect on that track to record into.

    I don’t have headphones where I am at the moment. So, I have no idea what the latency is.

  • Don’t waste 5 bucks

  • Just grabbed it. Interested to see how I can combine NS with Koala sampler. Anyone got some tips on combining these together?

  • @OnfraySin said:
    Don’t waste 5 bucks

    Totally. Buy NS2.

  • @OnfraySin said:
    Don’t waste 5 bucks

    Or you can spend a fiver and create any music you wish, like Trance...

    ...or a Mariachi-Reggaeton crossover...

  • @dmori said:
    Just grabbed it. Interested to see how I can combine NS with Koala sampler. Anyone got some tips on combining these together?

    I did recently play with this a bit. There was a longstanding bug where I had to open the Koala UI on every instance of it in order for it to activate upon loading the NS2 project but it was recently fixed and works great now, plus it exports well too. Been tempted to give it another try.

  • wimwim
    edited October 2024

    @espiegel123 said:
    You can then set loopy pro AU or multitrack recorder or whatever as an effect on that track to record into.

    I don’t have headphones where I am at the moment. So, I have no idea what the latency is.

    For some reason when I was doing that before, I couldn't add Loopback Out as an AU Instrument. I just tried again and was able to add it.

    Latency isn't terrible. From a quick listen, it's about the time of the very initial transient on a kick. I'm not going to bother measuring as I don't see any practical application for this in my workflow, but it's good to know it works.

  • @yellow_eyez said:
    Idk why the dev blip interactive didn’t sell the app to someone else!?? It’s like 90% finished , well it’s 100% but Audio tracks wouldn’t have been hard to integrate considering the sampler already captures audio…

    You have a misconception there -- recording actual audio is like 1% of the implementation complexity for audio tracks.

    The other 99% is:

    • drawing the audio on the timeline
    • coming up with a proper comping concept / UI
    • streaming the audio from disk without glitches
    • all the file management shenenigans around it
    • scalability
    • etc...

    So, a huge amount of work would be involved to add audio tracks. And given the competition these days (Logic Pro (!), Cubasis, AEM, etc.), another "groovebox" would probably be a hard sell!

    Is it hard to sell a fully functional and developed product/app to another dev ??

    And that's probably why -- someone who buys a piece of software in all likelihood wants to be able to make money with it. So they'd be looking at a big time / money investment to bring it up to par with the competition (not saying that what's already there in NS2 isn't amazing).

    I mean, I've developed yet another "Groovebox" / NS2-type thing that works in the browser! I opened another thread proposing a Kickstarter / Crowdfunding campaign to open-source it so others can finish it up (including adding audio tracks). And that's developed in a technology (JS/HTML/CSS) that's more accessible to developers than NS2 (C/C++).

    The responses weren't enthusiastic 😃 and if we suppose realistic hourly rates for a senior audio dev (probably around $100 in Ireland) and multiply that by the amount of hours Blip or myself have spent on developing it, it would probably have to cost close to $100,000

    Anyway!

  • I would buy a better box than Gadget, but so far none exist. BAM is slowly getting there, maybe.

    As for the failed project. Maybe it just needs to reach the right audience. So much is luck, established audience and virality. Otoh holding code for ransom probably won’t do as well as running a patreon with running commits that constantly improves it. Projects released into the wild without a long term babysitter usually die quickly and quietly. People don’t want to pay for that.

  • wimwim
    edited October 2024

    @Darkstring said:

    I would buy a better box than Gadget, but so far none exist. BAM is slowly getting there, maybe.

    As for the failed project. Maybe it just needs to reach the right audience. So much is luck, established audience and virality. Otoh holding code for ransom probably won’t do as well as running a patreon with running commits that constantly improves it. Projects released into the wild without a long term babysitter usually die quickly and quietly. People don’t want to pay for that.

    When you have to put food on the table, taking the time to experiment with what might work at some point isn't usually an option. People have offered ideas about how NS2 could be carried forward over on NS2's forum. None of these has appeared attractive to the developer. I think I can understand why (on more than one level).

  • @wim said:

    For some reason when I was doing that before, I couldn't add Loopback Out as an AU Instrument. I just tried again and was able to add it.

    Latency isn't terrible. From a quick listen, it's about the time of the very initial transient on a kick. I'm not going to bother measuring as I don't see any practical application for this in my workflow, but it's good to know it works.

    I finally had a chance to try it out and the latency was not bad on my iPad which old and slow.

  • @SevenSystems @yellow_eyez
    I agree, I've seen a fair number of projects going open source at some point with good intentions but not a single developer taking over the development in the sense that it would add anything substantial to what's already been there before.
    Plus, understanding and getting familiar with a large code base from someone else takes considerable time before further development can even start.

  • But if you have truly thrown in the towel then why not just put the code out there and see what happens?

  • wimwim
    edited October 2024

    @gusgranite said:
    But if you have truly thrown in the towel then why not just put the code out there and see what happens?

    I’m sure there must still be some trickle of income coming in. I’m not sure I’d toss that out myself even if it is small.

  • @wim said:
    Hosting NanoStudio2 inside Loopy Pro is perhaps one option. Yes, you only get a single stereo output from, NS2, but I don't see that as a huge limitation as you can do all the mixing and FX hosting you like inside NS2 and the rest in Loopy Pro.

    The unfortunate thing is NS2 doesn't seem to send or receive song position pointer (SPP), so Loopy's timeline can't be used in conjunction with it. On the other hand, if Link is enabled, Loopy Pro can follow NS2's tempo track.

    Another great idea thx

    @espiegel123 said:

    Put Loopback In as an effect in loopy pro on the channel to send.

    In NS2, add a track and choose Loopback Out as the instrument

    You can then set loopy pro AU or multitrack recorder or whatever as an effect on that track to record into.

    I don’t have headphones where I am at the moment. So, I have no idea what the latency is.

    Ok this is also a cool idea, I gotta buy the KQ plugin but I might try this method too

    Ns2 is worth it for keeping its workflow and its incredible sounds and slate and obsidian . What a nearly perfect daw and on iOS! 3 yrs ago! Logic could’ve leaned from this (or outright incorporated it by buying it)

  • @drez said:

    Totally. Buy NS2.

    made me laugh

  • @wim said:

    I’m sure there must still be some trickle of income coming in. I’m not sure I’d toss that out myself even if it is small.

    Yeah I tend to agree with this. Plus, he probably doesn’t want people to just steal his code that he worked years on. People steal open source code all the time. Writing code is a creative act just like writing music. Not everybody throws their DAW project files out there when they release an album and are “not going to update them any more” 😂

    It’s over, people. Life presses on.

  • @JGD said:
    Buy it, but it don’t have the same flow and ease of the original and blip could have done a bit better with the fx too

    I was a bit underwhelmed but it’s easier than drambo

    Yep. Exactly. It’s an incredible application. Well designed. I use it as it is. I didn’t need to read the manual, but when I did, it opened up a new level of depth on the application.

    Highly recommend purchasing it, especially if one is looking for a different way to make music.

  • edited October 2024

    @dendy said:
    NS2 is in discount for $5????

    Oh. This makes me just incredibly sad how this project ended. Like, i am glad for Matt he has proper job and probably much more time for family, of course.

    But it makes me incredibly sad for NS, cause for me this had so big potential, for me this was the kind of project you see once per lifetime :-((

    Yes, very sad indeed, made sadder by some people quibbling over a measly $5 in spite of the reality that if Obsidian were released as a new AUv3 synth app people would be happily paying 3-4 times that. Is there a comparable sampler-synth…? For $5…? FFS just consider it a sampler-synth with drum machine for free. It’s worth way more than $5.

  • wimwim
    edited October 2024

    I don't see anyone quibbling over the price.

    But does everyone want to consume the storage space and the time to learn a DAW that they may not use because it doesn't fit their workflow due to not having audio tracks? Do many people want to load up a full DAW just to use a synth or drum machine?

    I can understand why it's a sensitive issue when people disregard NS2, for those that are fond of Matt and of NS1 and NS2, and who saw how much dedication and the years of work that went into making it. I'm one of those people. It makes me sad too. I wish it had gone so much better for Matt.

    But I don't think price is the issue and I don't blame anyone for not thinking it's useful for them.

  • edited October 2024

    @wim said:
    I don't see anyone quibbling over the price.

    But does everyone want to consume the storage space and the time to learn a DAW that they may not use because it doesn't fit their workflow due to not having audio tracks? Do many people want to load up a full DAW just to use a synth or drum machine?

    I can understand why it's a sensitive issue when people disregard the app for those that are fond of Matt and of NS1 and NS2, and who saw how much dedication and the years of work that went into making it. I'm one of those people. It makes me sad too. I wish it had gone so much better for Matt.

    But I don't think price is the issue and I don't blame anyone for not thinking it's useful for them.

    +1, your first long paragraph fully corresponds to what I think as well. My main source of sound is 99% audio, everything else is just an accompaniment. I wouldn't use NS2 even if it was free. While I've seen attempts to get audio into NS2, it's not really a workflow I'd want to use regularly. Fortunately we have AEMS, Cubasis and others.

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