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FM 7 module for Tera Pro released

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  • SlushSlush

    The ‘dark mode’ color should be Tera Pro’s default color, I think it looks great and distinguish itself from the original Tera.

  • SatieSatie

    @Gavinski said:

    @Satie said:
    How do I get Tera in that dark GUI mode?

    Change your settings on your Apple device (not in Tera) to dark mode. Tera Pro will then automatically also appear in dark mode 🔥

    Thanks! 😎

  • HotStrangeHotStrange

    @Gavinski said:

    @HotStrange said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @HotStrange said:

    @wim said:

    @HotStrange said:

    @auxmux said:
    @Luxthor LOL. Enjoy! Yeah, Arturia DX7 is pretty great but I hope Tera Pro surpasses it. 😄

    I'll take all the FM synths I can get. I already have too many already, haha.

    Same 😂 Phasemaker is the only one on iOS that I don’t have I think. I’m just a sucker for FM. And the one in Tera is great and comes with a ton of presets. Harry did a great job on the UI also. A

    Phasemaker is fun. It has a similar macro control approach combined with detail editing. Plus it's so dependable but lightweight that it's the one I grab every time when I just want to something with which to test Mozaic scripts, etc.

    Not so great in the preset department though, and not compatible with DX7 patches.

    Maybe I need to finally grab it. Well, I definitely don’t need it but it would be nice to finish my Bram Bos collection 😂 I love Ruismaker FM so I’m sure Phasemaker is great too. My go to app for testing things is usually Accordion lol

    A lot of drone lovers sleeping on that apesoft accordion!

    @Gavinski said:

    @HotStrange said:

    @wim said:

    @HotStrange said:

    @auxmux said:
    @Luxthor LOL. Enjoy! Yeah, Arturia DX7 is pretty great but I hope Tera Pro surpasses it. 😄

    I'll take all the FM synths I can get. I already have too many already, haha.

    Same 😂 Phasemaker is the only one on iOS that I don’t have I think. I’m just a sucker for FM. And the one in Tera is great and comes with a ton of presets. Harry did a great job on the UI also. A

    Phasemaker is fun. It has a similar macro control approach combined with detail editing. Plus it's so dependable but lightweight that it's the one I grab every time when I just want to something with which to test Mozaic scripts, etc.

    Not so great in the preset department though, and not compatible with DX7 patches.

    Maybe I need to finally grab it. Well, I definitely don’t need it but it would be nice to finish my Bram Bos collection 😂 I love Ruismaker FM so I’m sure Phasemaker is great too. My go to app for testing things is usually Accordion lol

    A lot of drone lovers sleeping on that apesoft accordion!

    Oh man 100%. Especially with the effects, Formant filter, envelopes, etc. It can get really experimental and like you said, it’s killer for drones. It’s a sleeper pick for one of my favorites on iOS.

    Definitely, which Is why I included it in my best apps for Drone music vid! Anything really related to organs is great for drones

    Agreed. You know me, I love anything Organ related lol and that’s a big reason why.

  • HotStrangeHotStrange
    edited August 2023

    Edit: site glitch caused double post.

  • CrawlingwindCrawlingwind

    I like that idea! Also, the question regarding dark mode has been asked so many times now, it should be mentioned somewhere in the documentation, if it isn’t there already.

    @Slush said:
    The ‘dark mode’ color should be Tera Pro’s default color, I think it looks great and distinguish itself from the original Tera.

  • SlushSlush

    @Crawlingwind said:
    I like that idea! Also, the question regarding dark mode has been asked so many times now, it should be mentioned somewhere in the documentation, if it isn’t there already.

    @Slush said:
    The ‘dark mode’ color should be Tera Pro’s default color, I think it looks great and distinguish itself from the original Tera.

    Yes, or an option in the menu to switch it on/off

  • GrandbearGrandbear

    @VirSyn would you consider adding previous/next bank buttons to FM7, like the ones it already has for patches? Also, making the bank browser remember the last opened location would make browsing easier.

  • KashiKashi

    Just used TP as AUV3 in AUM, with Zoa triggering notes. Every time I press stop in AUM, Tera Pro crashes...It did this 3 times, consecutively. Anyone else had weird behaviour since last update?

  • VirSynVirSyn

    @Kashi said:
    Just used TP as AUV3 in AUM, with Zoa triggering notes. Every time I press stop in AUM, Tera Pro crashes...It did this 3 times, consecutively. Anyone else had weird behaviour since last update?

    Just tried to reproduce but worked here.
    Does it continue to fail after a reboot?

  • LuxthorLuxthor

    @Kashi said:
    Just used TP as AUV3 in AUM, with Zoa triggering notes. Every time I press stop in AUM, Tera Pro crashes...It did this 3 times, consecutively. Anyone else had weird behaviour since last update?

    Everything works fine here. Tested just Zoa and TP in AUM alone.

  • KashiKashi
    edited August 2023

    @VirSyn said:

    @Kashi said:
    Just used TP as AUV3 in AUM, with Zoa triggering notes. Every time I press stop in AUM, Tera Pro crashes...It did this 3 times, consecutively. Anyone else had weird behaviour since last update?

    Just tried to reproduce but worked here.
    Does it continue to fail after a reboot?

    It does, unfortunately.
    Just shut down ipad and rebooted. Same thing...

    Worth mentioning: just tried with Polybud and Fugue Machine and all is well.....so, might be a Zoa thing?

  • SilvertipSilvertip

    @Kashi said:
    Just used TP as AUV3 in AUM, with Zoa triggering notes. Every time I press stop in AUM, Tera Pro crashes.

    Same here. Crashes when pressing stop in AUM. But works fine when using the IAA version (instrument or generator).

  • wimwim

    I can't reproduce this problem no matter what I try.
    Can someone who has experienced it post the name of a patch or two that you've used when the app crashes?

  • wimwim
    edited August 2023

    Ahhh! 100% reproducible when operating at 44.1kHz. At 48kHz it's fine.
    @VirSyn

    [correction] eh. It is not fine. After making it crash, now it crashed on pressing stop in Zoa at both sample rates. Even after an iPad reboot. But then after a reboot it crashed at 48kHz but ran OK at 44.1kHz. Then I unloaded Zoa, changed to 48kHz, and the problem stopped.

    I can't draw any conclusions except to strongly expect it's related to sample rate. Changing sample rate while the AUv3 is loaded crashes the app instantly in addition to the above mentioned weirdness.

  • VirSynVirSyn

    @wim said:
    Ahhh! 100% reproducible when operating at 44.1kHz. At 48kHz it's fine.
    @VirSyn

    [correction] eh. It is not fine. After making it crash, now it crashed on pressing stop in Zoa at both sample rates. Even after an iPad reboot. But then after a reboot it crashed at 48kHz but ran OK at 44.1kHz. Then I unloaded Zoa, changed to 48kHz, and the problem stopped.

    I can't draw any conclusions except to strongly expect it's related to sample rate. Changing sample rate while the AUv3 is loaded crashes the app instantly in addition to the above mentioned weirdness.

    Tried everything you tried but haven't got a single glitch here. What audio interface are you using? Or just built in?

  • wimwim
    edited August 2023

    @VirSyn said:

    @wim said:
    Ahhh! 100% reproducible when operating at 44.1kHz. At 48kHz it's fine.
    @VirSyn

    [correction] eh. It is not fine. After making it crash, now it crashed on pressing stop in Zoa at both sample rates. Even after an iPad reboot. But then after a reboot it crashed at 48kHz but ran OK at 44.1kHz. Then I unloaded Zoa, changed to 48kHz, and the problem stopped.

    I can't draw any conclusions except to strongly expect it's related to sample rate. Changing sample rate while the AUv3 is loaded crashes the app instantly in addition to the above mentioned weirdness.

    Tried everything you tried but haven't got a single glitch here. What audio interface are you using? Or just built in?

    No interface.
    iPad Air 2, iPadOS 15.7.8.
    Want some crash logs?

  • wimwim

    @VirSyn are you testing specifically with ZOA midi sequencer routed to Tera Pro AUv3 in AUM? Because other sequencers I’ve tried so far, such as Rozeta Particles don’t crash it.

  • GavinskiGavinski

    @VirSyn if you need a copy of zoa to test I can put you in touch with the dev

  • wimwim
    edited August 2023

    @VirSyn it is the CC 123 value 0 (all notes off) that ZOA sends on transport stop that crashes Tera.

    I can crash Tera 100% of the time by sending B0 7B 00 from Midi Messenger. The sample rate changes must have been coincidental in my previous tests. Perhaps I forgot to route ZOA a time or two. Sorry for the confusion.

  • SamuSamu

    @Gavinski said:
    @VirSyn if you need a copy of zoa to test I can put you in touch with the dev

    I strongly suspect the 'note off / all notes off' which ZOA sends out on transport stop...
    ...this can get a bit get massive when using multiple output channels which could confuse Tera Pro?!
    (ie. if Tera Pro is in omni mode it will receive note-offs/all notes off for notes that are already off and well, this needs to be handled).

  • KashiKashi

    Thanks for your help @wim . Am quite relieved it’s not just my stupidity, which it normally is when things like this happen….😁

  • wimwim
    edited August 2023

    @Samu said:

    @Gavinski said:
    @VirSyn if you need a copy of zoa to test I can put you in touch with the dev

    I strongly suspect the 'note off / all notes off' which ZOA sends out on transport stop...
    ...this can get a bit get massive when using multiple output channels which could confuse Tera Pro?!
    (ie. if Tera Pro is in omni mode it will receive note-offs/all notes off for notes that are already off and well, this needs to be handled).

    It’s not a mass of note off messages that’s doing it. It’s just the standard “All notes off” midi message that is a single cc message (cc 123, value zero) on a single channel.

    It doesn’t have to come from ZOA. Any app or hardware that sends that particular message even once crashes the app in every host I’ve tried.

    Midi Messanger is a free app that can be used to send this message.

  • SamuSamu
    edited August 2023

    @wim said:

    @Samu said:

    @Gavinski said:
    @VirSyn if you need a copy of zoa to test I can put you in touch with the dev

    It doesn’t have to come from ZOA. Any app or hardware that sends that particular message even once crashes the app in every host I’ve tried.

    Nice investigating! So Tera Pro just needs to handle CC#123 with 0 value...
    ...that would be a good test to run against just about any AUv3 that exists :sunglasses:

    Adding support for Midi CC#120 with value 0 would be good to stop the output including sustained notes.

  • wimwim
    edited August 2023

    @wim said:

    @Samu said:

    @Gavinski said:
    @VirSyn if you need a copy of zoa to test I can put you in touch with the dev

    I strongly suspect the 'note off / all notes off' which ZOA sends out on transport stop...
    ...this can get a bit get massive when using multiple output channels which could confuse Tera Pro?!
    (ie. if Tera Pro is in omni mode it will receive note-offs/all notes off for notes that are already off and well, this needs to be handled).

    It’s not a mass of note off messages that’s doing it. It’s just the standard “All notes off” midi message that is a single cc message (cc 123, value zero) on a single channel.

    It doesn’t have to come from ZOA. Any app or hardware that sends that particular message even once crashes the app in every host I’ve tried.

    Midi Messanger is a free app that can be used to send this message.

    Btw, ZOA also sends the “All sounds off” (CC 120, value 0) message on stop, but that message doesn’t crash Tera Pro.
    [edit] ha! We cross posted. 😎

  • wimwim
    edited August 2023

    @Kashi said:
    Thanks for your help @wim . Am quite relieved it’s not just my stupidity, which it normally is when things like this happen….😁

    I should have picked this up hours ago, but I was reading my midi logger in reverse order so I missed it. 🙄

  • LuxthorLuxthor
    edited August 2023

    @wim said:
    @VirSyn it is the CC 123 value 0 (all notes off) that ZOA sends on transport stop that crashes Tera.

    I can crash Tera 100% of the time by sending B0 7B 00 from Midi Messenger. The sample rate changes must have been coincidental in my previous tests. Perhaps I forgot to route ZOA a time or two. Sorry for the confusion.

    All note off (B0 7B 00) not crashing TP here. Even when Zoa plays, sending ‘All Notes Off’ will not crash TP.

    (M2, iOS 16.6, 48kHz, 256 buffer)

  • wimwim

    Strange. I can reproduce 100% here.

  • VirSynVirSyn

    @wim said:
    @VirSyn are you testing specifically with ZOA midi sequencer routed to Tera Pro AUv3 in AUM? Because other sequencers I’ve tried so far, such as Rozeta Particles don’t crash it.

    yes, tried with ZOA. Will check later your investigation regarding All Notes Off. Nice work!

  • LuxthorLuxthor
    edited August 2023

    @wim said:
    Strange. I can reproduce 100% here.

    I didn’t test it on 44.1kHz though.

  • wimwim

    @Luxthor said:

    @wim said:
    Strange. I can reproduce 100% here.

    I didn’t test it on 44.1kHz though.

    Doesn’t matter for me. They both crash TP instantly.

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