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iBassist is now AUv3

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  • @jj2man said:
    Looking forward to checking out the new update!

    The last time I tried using iBassist feeding it live MIDI from a MIDI clip, the chord changes were laggy and the root note of each new chord was always a beat behind. I consulted Lumbeat about this on their Discord channel, and they said that it is a known issue with Apple and they weren't able to work around it. Somebody on this forum had proposed a workaround using an app called JustChords that could somehow offset the incoming MIDI signal by a few milliseconds. I haven't given this method a try it, but I need to revisit it.

    JustChords has a setting to send chords early that works well with iBassist.

  • JustChords is a great app and Marek is an amazing developer. It's incredible how fast development is progressing. You can send MIDI in and out, control BPM from JC in Loopy Pro, set ToneX presets, send chords to iBassist, fills to PopDrummer... JC can do a lot today.

  • wimwim
    edited February 17

    @jj2man said:
    Looking forward to checking out the new update!

    The last time I tried using iBassist feeding it live MIDI from a MIDI clip, the chord changes were laggy and the root note of each new chord was always a beat behind. I consulted Lumbeat about this on their Discord channel, and they said that it is a known issue with Apple and they weren't able to work around it.

    I wouldn't say it's exactly an Apple thing. More like maybe an Einstein thing. In order to know what chord is being played the app has to receive the chord first. The earliest it can react is on the next note. At least until time travel is invented. Prolly won't be Apple that invents that, but they'll do a hell of a job ripping it off a decade or so later.

  • @filo01 said:
    JustChords is a great app and Marek is an amazing developer. It's incredible how fast development is progressing. You can send MIDI in and out, control BPM from JC in Loopy Pro, set ToneX presets, send chords to iBassist, fills to PopDrummer... JC can do a lot today.

    Amen!

  • @wim said:

    @jj2man said:
    Looking forward to checking out the new update!

    The last time I tried using iBassist feeding it live MIDI from a MIDI clip, the chord changes were laggy and the root note of each new chord was always a beat behind. I consulted Lumbeat about this on their Discord channel, and they said that it is a known issue with Apple and they weren't able to work around it.

    I wouldn't say it's exactly an Apple thing. More like maybe an Einstein thing. In order to know what chord is being played the app has to receive the chord first. The earliest it can react is on the next note. At least until time travel is invented. Prolly won't be Apple that invents that, but the'll do a hell of a job ripping it off a decade or so later.

    I see your point.

    One solution to the problem could be to delay the note by a millisecond or two. Just a thought. It seems silly to have the feature it it's delayed by an entire note length.

  • wimwim
    edited February 17

    @jj2man said:

    @wim said:

    @jj2man said:
    Looking forward to checking out the new update!

    The last time I tried using iBassist feeding it live MIDI from a MIDI clip, the chord changes were laggy and the root note of each new chord was always a beat behind. I consulted Lumbeat about this on their Discord channel, and they said that it is a known issue with Apple and they weren't able to work around it.

    I wouldn't say it's exactly an Apple thing. More like maybe an Einstein thing. In order to know what chord is being played the app has to receive the chord first. The earliest it can react is on the next note. At least until time travel is invented. Prolly won't be Apple that invents that, but the'll do a hell of a job ripping it off a decade or so later.

    I see your point.

    One solution to the problem could be to delay the note by a millisecond or two. Just a thought. It seems silly to have the feature it it's delayed by an entire note length.

    It does seem to me like that would work. I mean live bass players aren't ever going to be spot on the beat. But, not being the developer, I can't say.

  • @filo01 said:
    JustChords is a great app and Marek is an amazing developer. It's incredible how fast development is progressing. You can send MIDI in and out, control BPM from JC in Loopy Pro, set ToneX presets, send chords to iBassist, fills to PopDrummer... JC can do a lot today.

    Do you know if there is a way to send chords from a MIDI loop to JustChords, and send those same chords to iBassist but offset them by a few milliseconds?

  • wimwim
    edited February 18

    @jj2man said:

    @filo01 said:
    JustChords is a great app and Marek is an amazing developer. It's incredible how fast development is progressing. You can send MIDI in and out, control BPM from JC in Loopy Pro, set ToneX presets, send chords to iBassist, fills to PopDrummer... JC can do a lot today.

    Do you know if there is a way to send chords from a MIDI loop to JustChords, and send those same chords to iBassist but offset them by a few milliseconds?

    That will not work. JustChords can't move MIDI it has received back in time. No app can.

    The idea is to enter the chords in JustChords so that it can send them fractionally before the beat.

  • wimwim
    edited February 18

    If you're talking about Loopy Pro as the source of the midi loop, you could duplicate the loop with one sending to whatever app is sounding the chords, and one sending just to iBassist on the chord detection channel. Then you could offset the second loop by a negative amount.

  • @wim said:
    If you're talking about Loopy Pro as the source of the midi loop, you could duplicate the loop with one sending to whatever app is sounding the chords, and one sending just to iBassist on the chord detection channel. Then you could offset the second loop by a negative amount.

    Thanks for your reply. I'll have to sit with Loopy and try to figure out a solution that works. But it sounds like this could be it.

  • @wim said:

    @jj2man said:
    Looking forward to checking out the new update!

    The last time I tried using iBassist feeding it live MIDI from a MIDI clip, the chord changes were laggy and the root note of each new chord was always a beat behind. I consulted Lumbeat about this on their Discord channel, and they said that it is a known issue with Apple and they weren't able to work around it.

    I wouldn't say it's exactly an Apple thing. More like maybe an Einstein thing. In order to know what chord is being played the app has to receive the chord first. The earliest it can react is on the next note. At least until time travel is invented. Prolly won't be Apple that invents that, but they'll do a hell of a job ripping it off a decade or so later.

    I like that!
    “An Einstein thing” in reference to time-based paradoxes. I will be stealing that, thanks.

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