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  • LinearLinemanLinearLineman
    edited December 2023

    @Crano said:

    @LinearLineman said:
    I agree with what you’re saying @Crano. I usually call it will, but I think it’s the same thing. If I don’t have the will I can’t connect to the part of me that can access improvising outside of my conscious thoughts. The “8ntention” allows me to sidestep that thoughtfulness and the judgements that inevitably come along with it.

    You’re speaking on what some people call ‘being in the zone’ or ‘in the flow’?

    Yes it’s all interlinked. It’s basically meditation. Once you start to focus too much on your thoughts or even worse judgements (like you say) you will immediately be cut off from the source of flow you were in.

    Great artists don’t invent. They are just great channelers with sufficient control over their tools. Anyone can be great. As long as they are authentically attuned to who they really are, be one with all, handle with clear intention and are fully dedicated to the present moment. That should do the trick.

    That is it exactly, my friend. You put it very well.

  • jwmmakerofmusicjwmmakerofmusic

    @Crano said:
    In reply to your deliberations on specific pieces of gear I would (as someone who acquired quite a lot of different gear over the years) suggest to figure out if you have a specific workflow you want to follow. Because a lot of devices force a workflow with their own logic on you. When you’re used to a certain piece of gear (or software) and you then move to a new hardware groovebox for instance, you might be surprised by the limitations you never imagined there would be. If you can surrender to this and want to be creative with what you get there’s no issue. But if you have specific wishes you better do your homework first 😁✌🏻

    This, I agree 100% with all of this. :) Regarding my GAS for an OP-1 Field, as I said elsewhere, I did my homework on its workflow (Youtube, skimming the manual online, etc). At first it didn't appeal to me and my GAS was cured, but I think I want to learn the limitations, workflow, etc of the OP-1 Field. Its unique workflow fascinates me.

    There are also many top producers who use the original OP-1 according to Equipboard, including one of my main electronic music inspos Jean-Michel Jarre! Even though I'm not really all that influenced by "influencers" (I'd have a flat full of hardware by now if I bought everything Hainbach speaks about on his channel lol), I AM heavily influenced by JMJ and have been since I was much younger than I am now. For instance, JMJ is why I experimented with binaural panning about 5-6 months ago.

    After learning the OP-1 Field workflow, I plan to release an EP. The way I plan to produce it is to notate the music in my ReMarkable 2 tablet first, and then I can play it in. And who says I have to stick to traditional notation exactly or be confined to a seven-tone scale? ;) I mean, I can explore tone rows on my iPad and iPhone too, but I don't know something about the OP-1 Field workflow lends itself to exploring more experimental stuff, much like AUM inspires me to experiment but in a different way (has a different workflow).

    And believe me, I've tried to substitute the OP-1 Field workflow on my iPad in Drambo, Koala, AUM, etc, since my "Summer of Ambient 2022". And I've tried to find and research cheaper hardware that can do what the OP-1 Field can do (i.e. that tape-based workflow). There really isn't anything quite like it other than the OG OP-1.

    ...I'm high, so forgive my aimless rambling. 😂

    @BroCoast said:

    @dreamcartel said:

    What would you do if the person giving you the greatest synth station and jewel of the synth world said basically “are you sure you are getting something you ‘are good enough for’?” And now I’m like shit, should I just get something else man?

    😂

    I don’t let people buy me anything to do with music.

    As far as being good enough, I buy/sell a lot of gear and most of the people I deal with can barely play. Who cares man, if it makes you happy.

    I would find a way to purchase the OP-1f yourself and not accept such a gift.

    👆👆👆💯

    Yeah, forget what your wife said. Like BroCoast said, if it makes you happy @dreamcartel , get it yourself. You don't want to be given a gift that can then be held over your head by someone who treats you like that and criticises the music you make.

  • MrSmileZMrSmileZ
    edited December 2023

    An op-1 field?
    I don’t know man, this thread is like made of red flags.

    🚩

  • GavinskiGavinski
    edited December 2023

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:
    Yeah, forget what your wife said. Like BroCoast said, if it makes you happy @dreamcartel , get it yourself. You don't want to be given a gift that can then be held over your head by someone who treats you like that and criticises the music you make.

    I dunno, sometimes when you're in a relationship with someone you have to be honest even if it might hurt them. And is she going to hold it over him? I don't think we know enough to guess at that. To me it's just a couple having a worthwhile discussion in advance, about sth that sounds like it would be a significant financial outlay. In that context her doubts about whether buying this will really get the results the OP is looking for, when an iPad, apps and desktop software did not manage to do it, seem very valid.

    @dreamcartel some words from your post in the other thread made me worry a bit that you kind of drank the kool aid over the op1f. You mentioned that it is made by musicians for musicians. But that, apart from sounding like absolute marketing drivel, could also be said of practically any music app ever made, and honestly doesn't really guarantee anything whatsoever. I know it's not your only reason for buying it but it still stuck out to me like a sore thumb.

    I think that if so much soul searching and discussion has to be done about whether to buy a non essential piece of kit, it probably means you're genuinely better off not getting it. It's likely a financial overstretch for those involved. If it wasn't, no one would be doing any hand wringing over it, so on those grounds alone I would consider taking a rain check on buying it.

  • jwmmakerofmusicjwmmakerofmusic

    @Gavinski said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:
    Yeah, forget what your wife said. Like BroCoast said, if it makes you happy @dreamcartel , get it yourself. You don't want to be given a gift that can then be held over your head by someone who treats you like that and criticises the music you make.

    I dunno, sometimes when you're in a relationship with someone you have to be honest even if it might hurt them. And is she going to hold it over him? I don't think we know enough to guess at that. To me it's just a couple having a worthwhile discussion in advance, about sth that sounds like it would be a significant financial outlay. In that context her doubts about whether buying this will really get the results the OP is looking for, when an iPad, apps and desktop software, did not manage to do it, seems very valid.

    Well when framed like that, that makes more sense. I tend to be a massive cynic when it comes to relationships, so take what I said with a grain of salt.

    @dreamcartel some words from your post in the other thread made me worry a bit that you kind of drank the kool aid a bit too much over the op1f. You mentioned that this is made by musicians for musicians. But that, apart from sounding like absolute marketing drivel, could also be said of practically any music app ever made, and honestly doesn't really guarantee anything whatsoever. I know it's not your only reason for buying it but it still stuck out to me like a sore thumb.

    Yeah, while I love the OP-1 Field a lot and plan to get mine Sunday, I think @dreamcartel loves it far more than me. 😂

    I think that if so much soul searching and discussion has to be done about whether to buy a non essential piece of kit, it probably means you're genuinely better off not getting it. It's likely a financial overstretch for those involved. If it wasn't, no one would be doing any hand wringing over it, so on those grounds alone I would consider taking a rain check on buying it.

    Sounds sensible to me. :) (I'm high rn. xD )

  • GavinskiGavinski

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:
    Yeah, forget what your wife said. Like BroCoast said, if it makes you happy @dreamcartel , get it yourself. You don't want to be given a gift that can then be held over your head by someone who treats you like that and criticises the music you make.

    I dunno, sometimes when you're in a relationship with someone you have to be honest even if it might hurt them. And is she going to hold it over him? I don't think we know enough to guess at that. To me it's just a couple having a worthwhile discussion in advance, about sth that sounds like it would be a significant financial outlay. In that context her doubts about whether buying this will really get the results the OP is looking for, when an iPad, apps and desktop software, did not manage to do it, seems very valid.

    Well when framed like that, that makes more sense. I tend to be a massive cynic when it comes to relationships, so take what I said with a grain of salt.

    @dreamcartel some words from your post in the other thread made me worry a bit that you kind of drank the kool aid a bit too much over the op1f. You mentioned that this is made by musicians for musicians. But that, apart from sounding like absolute marketing drivel, could also be said of practically any music app ever made, and honestly doesn't really guarantee anything whatsoever. I know it's not your only reason for buying it but it still stuck out to me like a sore thumb.

    Yeah, while I love the OP-1 Field a lot and plan to get mine Sunday, I think @dreamcartel loves it far more than me. 😂

    I think that if so much soul searching and discussion has to be done about whether to buy a non essential piece of kit, it probably means you're genuinely better off not getting it. It's likely a financial overstretch for those involved. If it wasn't, no one would be doing any hand wringing over it, so on those grounds alone I would consider taking a rain check on buying it.

    Sounds sensible to me. :) (I'm high rn. xD )

    Maybe you can sell him yours once the novelty wears off 🤪 😂

  • NoiseHorseNoiseHorse

    You ARE good enough. I’m a guitar player and if I broke my arm and became useless I would still buy the coolest guitar possible. Hell with what other people think of my music. I don’t play it for them anymore anyway.

  • jwmmakerofmusicjwmmakerofmusic

    @Gavinski said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:
    Yeah, forget what your wife said. Like BroCoast said, if it makes you happy @dreamcartel , get it yourself. You don't want to be given a gift that can then be held over your head by someone who treats you like that and criticises the music you make.

    I dunno, sometimes when you're in a relationship with someone you have to be honest even if it might hurt them. And is she going to hold it over him? I don't think we know enough to guess at that. To me it's just a couple having a worthwhile discussion in advance, about sth that sounds like it would be a significant financial outlay. In that context her doubts about whether buying this will really get the results the OP is looking for, when an iPad, apps and desktop software, did not manage to do it, seems very valid.

    Well when framed like that, that makes more sense. I tend to be a massive cynic when it comes to relationships, so take what I said with a grain of salt.

    @dreamcartel some words from your post in the other thread made me worry a bit that you kind of drank the kool aid a bit too much over the op1f. You mentioned that this is made by musicians for musicians. But that, apart from sounding like absolute marketing drivel, could also be said of practically any music app ever made, and honestly doesn't really guarantee anything whatsoever. I know it's not your only reason for buying it but it still stuck out to me like a sore thumb.

    Yeah, while I love the OP-1 Field a lot and plan to get mine Sunday, I think @dreamcartel loves it far more than me. 😂

    I think that if so much soul searching and discussion has to be done about whether to buy a non essential piece of kit, it probably means you're genuinely better off not getting it. It's likely a financial overstretch for those involved. If it wasn't, no one would be doing any hand wringing over it, so on those grounds alone I would consider taking a rain check on buying it.

    Sounds sensible to me. :) (I'm high rn. xD )

    Maybe you can sell him yours once the novelty wears off 🤪 😂

    That is if it wears off. Mate, the novelty of using an iPad and iPhone to produce music hasn't worn off after all these years. 😂 Jean-Michel Jarre uses an og OP-1, and the Field is basically a tricked out version of that.

    Don't tell me you don't have "that one piece of gear" you've longed to use for years. 🤣 Unless of course you bought it already.

  • GavinskiGavinski

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:
    Yeah, forget what your wife said. Like BroCoast said, if it makes you happy @dreamcartel , get it yourself. You don't want to be given a gift that can then be held over your head by someone who treats you like that and criticises the music you make.

    I dunno, sometimes when you're in a relationship with someone you have to be honest even if it might hurt them. And is she going to hold it over him? I don't think we know enough to guess at that. To me it's just a couple having a worthwhile discussion in advance, about sth that sounds like it would be a significant financial outlay. In that context her doubts about whether buying this will really get the results the OP is looking for, when an iPad, apps and desktop software, did not manage to do it, seems very valid.

    Well when framed like that, that makes more sense. I tend to be a massive cynic when it comes to relationships, so take what I said with a grain of salt.

    @dreamcartel some words from your post in the other thread made me worry a bit that you kind of drank the kool aid a bit too much over the op1f. You mentioned that this is made by musicians for musicians. But that, apart from sounding like absolute marketing drivel, could also be said of practically any music app ever made, and honestly doesn't really guarantee anything whatsoever. I know it's not your only reason for buying it but it still stuck out to me like a sore thumb.

    Yeah, while I love the OP-1 Field a lot and plan to get mine Sunday, I think @dreamcartel loves it far more than me. 😂

    I think that if so much soul searching and discussion has to be done about whether to buy a non essential piece of kit, it probably means you're genuinely better off not getting it. It's likely a financial overstretch for those involved. If it wasn't, no one would be doing any hand wringing over it, so on those grounds alone I would consider taking a rain check on buying it.

    Sounds sensible to me. :) (I'm high rn. xD )

    Maybe you can sell him yours once the novelty wears off 🤪 😂

    That is if it wears off. Mate, the novelty of using an iPad and iPhone to produce music hasn't worn off after all these years. 😂 Jean-Michel Jarre uses an og OP-1, and the Field is basically a tricked out version of that.

    Don't tell me you don't have "that one piece of gear" you've longed to use for years. 🤣 Unless of course you bought it already.

    Ah haha... I genuinely don't really watch vids on gear as I already have so much stuff in storage or that I had to throw out over the years, due to moving around, so gear just doesn't fit with my lifestyle. If I was more settled very long term somewhere, I'm sure I would buy some stuff, yes - an Osmose and a Linnstrument are the first 2 that spring to mind. But only if I had the money, and I would likely be buying them up front, not really a fan of credit, financing etc. The only regular payments I make are for a few subs to things like YouTube Premium and the Guardian and those are things I can cancel at any time.

    Not saying that anyone else should follow my habits here btw! Not at all, they're just ones that work for me, in my own personal situation and with my own particular personality. I don't even have a car and have no intentions of ever having one, so I am definitely an outlier.

  • jwmmakerofmusicjwmmakerofmusic

    @Gavinski said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:
    Yeah, forget what your wife said. Like BroCoast said, if it makes you happy @dreamcartel , get it yourself. You don't want to be given a gift that can then be held over your head by someone who treats you like that and criticises the music you make.

    I dunno, sometimes when you're in a relationship with someone you have to be honest even if it might hurt them. And is she going to hold it over him? I don't think we know enough to guess at that. To me it's just a couple having a worthwhile discussion in advance, about sth that sounds like it would be a significant financial outlay. In that context her doubts about whether buying this will really get the results the OP is looking for, when an iPad, apps and desktop software, did not manage to do it, seems very valid.

    Well when framed like that, that makes more sense. I tend to be a massive cynic when it comes to relationships, so take what I said with a grain of salt.

    @dreamcartel some words from your post in the other thread made me worry a bit that you kind of drank the kool aid a bit too much over the op1f. You mentioned that this is made by musicians for musicians. But that, apart from sounding like absolute marketing drivel, could also be said of practically any music app ever made, and honestly doesn't really guarantee anything whatsoever. I know it's not your only reason for buying it but it still stuck out to me like a sore thumb.

    Yeah, while I love the OP-1 Field a lot and plan to get mine Sunday, I think @dreamcartel loves it far more than me. 😂

    I think that if so much soul searching and discussion has to be done about whether to buy a non essential piece of kit, it probably means you're genuinely better off not getting it. It's likely a financial overstretch for those involved. If it wasn't, no one would be doing any hand wringing over it, so on those grounds alone I would consider taking a rain check on buying it.

    Sounds sensible to me. :) (I'm high rn. xD )

    Maybe you can sell him yours once the novelty wears off 🤪 😂

    That is if it wears off. Mate, the novelty of using an iPad and iPhone to produce music hasn't worn off after all these years. 😂 Jean-Michel Jarre uses an og OP-1, and the Field is basically a tricked out version of that.

    Don't tell me you don't have "that one piece of gear" you've longed to use for years. 🤣 Unless of course you bought it already.

    Ah haha... I genuinely don't really watch vids on gear as I already have so much stuff in storage or that I had to throw out over the years, due to moving around, so gear just doesn't fit with my lifestyle. If I was more settled very long term somewhere, I'm sure I would buy some stuff, yes - an Osmose and a Linnstrument are the first 2 that spring to mind. But only if I had the money, and I would likely be buying them up front, not really a fan of credit, financing etc. The only regular payments I make are for a few subs to things like YouTube Premium and the Guardian and those are things I can cancel at any time.

    Gear doesn't normally fit my lifestyle either, but that OP-1 Field sure would bring me some joy. I turn 40 next year, "you only live once" and tosh like that.

    Osmose and Linnstrument sound like fun to me. :) Man, years ago I didn't know how to properly budget my money. These days I'm a financial wizard and can make my money work for me. Plus I can write the OP-1 Field off on taxes. 😉

    Not saying that anyone else should follow my habits here btw! Not at all, they're just ones that work for me, in my own personal situation and with my own particular personality. I don't even have a car and have no intentions of ever having one, so I am definitely an outlier.

    You forgot to add "your mileage may vary". 😂🤣

  • GavinskiGavinski

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:
    Yeah, forget what your wife said. Like BroCoast said, if it makes you happy @dreamcartel , get it yourself. You don't want to be given a gift that can then be held over your head by someone who treats you like that and criticises the music you make.

    I dunno, sometimes when you're in a relationship with someone you have to be honest even if it might hurt them. And is she going to hold it over him? I don't think we know enough to guess at that. To me it's just a couple having a worthwhile discussion in advance, about sth that sounds like it would be a significant financial outlay. In that context her doubts about whether buying this will really get the results the OP is looking for, when an iPad, apps and desktop software, did not manage to do it, seems very valid.

    Well when framed like that, that makes more sense. I tend to be a massive cynic when it comes to relationships, so take what I said with a grain of salt.

    @dreamcartel some words from your post in the other thread made me worry a bit that you kind of drank the kool aid a bit too much over the op1f. You mentioned that this is made by musicians for musicians. But that, apart from sounding like absolute marketing drivel, could also be said of practically any music app ever made, and honestly doesn't really guarantee anything whatsoever. I know it's not your only reason for buying it but it still stuck out to me like a sore thumb.

    Yeah, while I love the OP-1 Field a lot and plan to get mine Sunday, I think @dreamcartel loves it far more than me. 😂

    I think that if so much soul searching and discussion has to be done about whether to buy a non essential piece of kit, it probably means you're genuinely better off not getting it. It's likely a financial overstretch for those involved. If it wasn't, no one would be doing any hand wringing over it, so on those grounds alone I would consider taking a rain check on buying it.

    Sounds sensible to me. :) (I'm high rn. xD )

    Maybe you can sell him yours once the novelty wears off 🤪 😂

    That is if it wears off. Mate, the novelty of using an iPad and iPhone to produce music hasn't worn off after all these years. 😂 Jean-Michel Jarre uses an og OP-1, and the Field is basically a tricked out version of that.

    Don't tell me you don't have "that one piece of gear" you've longed to use for years. 🤣 Unless of course you bought it already.

    Ah haha... I genuinely don't really watch vids on gear as I already have so much stuff in storage or that I had to throw out over the years, due to moving around, so gear just doesn't fit with my lifestyle. If I was more settled very long term somewhere, I'm sure I would buy some stuff, yes - an Osmose and a Linnstrument are the first 2 that spring to mind. But only if I had the money, and I would likely be buying them up front, not really a fan of credit, financing etc. The only regular payments I make are for a few subs to things like YouTube Premium and the Guardian and those are things I can cancel at any time.

    Gear doesn't normally fit my lifestyle either, but that OP-1 Field sure would bring me some joy. I turn 40 next year, "you only live once" and tosh like that.

    Osmose and Linnstrument sound like fun to me. :) Man, years ago I didn't know how to properly budget my money. These days I'm a financial wizard and can make my money work for me. Plus I can write the OP-1 Field off on taxes. 😉

    Not saying that anyone else should follow my habits here btw! Not at all, they're just ones that work for me, in my own personal situation and with my own particular personality. I don't even have a car and have no intentions of ever having one, so I am definitely an outlier.

    You forgot to add "your mileage may vary". 😂🤣

    And imvho lol

  • jwmmakerofmusicjwmmakerofmusic

    @Gavinski said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:
    Yeah, forget what your wife said. Like BroCoast said, if it makes you happy @dreamcartel , get it yourself. You don't want to be given a gift that can then be held over your head by someone who treats you like that and criticises the music you make.

    I dunno, sometimes when you're in a relationship with someone you have to be honest even if it might hurt them. And is she going to hold it over him? I don't think we know enough to guess at that. To me it's just a couple having a worthwhile discussion in advance, about sth that sounds like it would be a significant financial outlay. In that context her doubts about whether buying this will really get the results the OP is looking for, when an iPad, apps and desktop software, did not manage to do it, seems very valid.

    Well when framed like that, that makes more sense. I tend to be a massive cynic when it comes to relationships, so take what I said with a grain of salt.

    @dreamcartel some words from your post in the other thread made me worry a bit that you kind of drank the kool aid a bit too much over the op1f. You mentioned that this is made by musicians for musicians. But that, apart from sounding like absolute marketing drivel, could also be said of practically any music app ever made, and honestly doesn't really guarantee anything whatsoever. I know it's not your only reason for buying it but it still stuck out to me like a sore thumb.

    Yeah, while I love the OP-1 Field a lot and plan to get mine Sunday, I think @dreamcartel loves it far more than me. 😂

    I think that if so much soul searching and discussion has to be done about whether to buy a non essential piece of kit, it probably means you're genuinely better off not getting it. It's likely a financial overstretch for those involved. If it wasn't, no one would be doing any hand wringing over it, so on those grounds alone I would consider taking a rain check on buying it.

    Sounds sensible to me. :) (I'm high rn. xD )

    Maybe you can sell him yours once the novelty wears off 🤪 😂

    That is if it wears off. Mate, the novelty of using an iPad and iPhone to produce music hasn't worn off after all these years. 😂 Jean-Michel Jarre uses an og OP-1, and the Field is basically a tricked out version of that.

    Don't tell me you don't have "that one piece of gear" you've longed to use for years. 🤣 Unless of course you bought it already.

    Ah haha... I genuinely don't really watch vids on gear as I already have so much stuff in storage or that I had to throw out over the years, due to moving around, so gear just doesn't fit with my lifestyle. If I was more settled very long term somewhere, I'm sure I would buy some stuff, yes - an Osmose and a Linnstrument are the first 2 that spring to mind. But only if I had the money, and I would likely be buying them up front, not really a fan of credit, financing etc. The only regular payments I make are for a few subs to things like YouTube Premium and the Guardian and those are things I can cancel at any time.

    Gear doesn't normally fit my lifestyle either, but that OP-1 Field sure would bring me some joy. I turn 40 next year, "you only live once" and tosh like that.

    Osmose and Linnstrument sound like fun to me. :) Man, years ago I didn't know how to properly budget my money. These days I'm a financial wizard and can make my money work for me. Plus I can write the OP-1 Field off on taxes. 😉

    Not saying that anyone else should follow my habits here btw! Not at all, they're just ones that work for me, in my own personal situation and with my own particular personality. I don't even have a car and have no intentions of ever having one, so I am definitely an outlier.

    You forgot to add "your mileage may vary". 😂🤣

    And imvho lol

    I'm so disappointed you forgot to add those catchphrases. 😂 (Just kidding.)

  • GavinskiGavinski

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:
    Yeah, forget what your wife said. Like BroCoast said, if it makes you happy @dreamcartel , get it yourself. You don't want to be given a gift that can then be held over your head by someone who treats you like that and criticises the music you make.

    I dunno, sometimes when you're in a relationship with someone you have to be honest even if it might hurt them. And is she going to hold it over him? I don't think we know enough to guess at that. To me it's just a couple having a worthwhile discussion in advance, about sth that sounds like it would be a significant financial outlay. In that context her doubts about whether buying this will really get the results the OP is looking for, when an iPad, apps and desktop software, did not manage to do it, seems very valid.

    Well when framed like that, that makes more sense. I tend to be a massive cynic when it comes to relationships, so take what I said with a grain of salt.

    @dreamcartel some words from your post in the other thread made me worry a bit that you kind of drank the kool aid a bit too much over the op1f. You mentioned that this is made by musicians for musicians. But that, apart from sounding like absolute marketing drivel, could also be said of practically any music app ever made, and honestly doesn't really guarantee anything whatsoever. I know it's not your only reason for buying it but it still stuck out to me like a sore thumb.

    Yeah, while I love the OP-1 Field a lot and plan to get mine Sunday, I think @dreamcartel loves it far more than me. 😂

    I think that if so much soul searching and discussion has to be done about whether to buy a non essential piece of kit, it probably means you're genuinely better off not getting it. It's likely a financial overstretch for those involved. If it wasn't, no one would be doing any hand wringing over it, so on those grounds alone I would consider taking a rain check on buying it.

    Sounds sensible to me. :) (I'm high rn. xD )

    Maybe you can sell him yours once the novelty wears off 🤪 😂

    That is if it wears off. Mate, the novelty of using an iPad and iPhone to produce music hasn't worn off after all these years. 😂 Jean-Michel Jarre uses an og OP-1, and the Field is basically a tricked out version of that.

    Don't tell me you don't have "that one piece of gear" you've longed to use for years. 🤣 Unless of course you bought it already.

    Ah haha... I genuinely don't really watch vids on gear as I already have so much stuff in storage or that I had to throw out over the years, due to moving around, so gear just doesn't fit with my lifestyle. If I was more settled very long term somewhere, I'm sure I would buy some stuff, yes - an Osmose and a Linnstrument are the first 2 that spring to mind. But only if I had the money, and I would likely be buying them up front, not really a fan of credit, financing etc. The only regular payments I make are for a few subs to things like YouTube Premium and the Guardian and those are things I can cancel at any time.

    Gear doesn't normally fit my lifestyle either, but that OP-1 Field sure would bring me some joy. I turn 40 next year, "you only live once" and tosh like that.

    Osmose and Linnstrument sound like fun to me. :) Man, years ago I didn't know how to properly budget my money. These days I'm a financial wizard and can make my money work for me. Plus I can write the OP-1 Field off on taxes. 😉

    Not saying that anyone else should follow my habits here btw! Not at all, they're just ones that work for me, in my own personal situation and with my own particular personality. I don't even have a car and have no intentions of ever having one, so I am definitely an outlier.

    You forgot to add "your mileage may vary". 😂🤣

    And imvho lol

    I'm so disappointed you forgot to add those catchphrases. 😂 (Just kidding.)

    Those aren't catchphrases, they're protective charms. One should never enter the online fray without first clutching onto them for dear life

  • jwmmakerofmusicjwmmakerofmusic

    @Gavinski said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:
    Yeah, forget what your wife said. Like BroCoast said, if it makes you happy @dreamcartel , get it yourself. You don't want to be given a gift that can then be held over your head by someone who treats you like that and criticises the music you make.

    I dunno, sometimes when you're in a relationship with someone you have to be honest even if it might hurt them. And is she going to hold it over him? I don't think we know enough to guess at that. To me it's just a couple having a worthwhile discussion in advance, about sth that sounds like it would be a significant financial outlay. In that context her doubts about whether buying this will really get the results the OP is looking for, when an iPad, apps and desktop software, did not manage to do it, seems very valid.

    Well when framed like that, that makes more sense. I tend to be a massive cynic when it comes to relationships, so take what I said with a grain of salt.

    @dreamcartel some words from your post in the other thread made me worry a bit that you kind of drank the kool aid a bit too much over the op1f. You mentioned that this is made by musicians for musicians. But that, apart from sounding like absolute marketing drivel, could also be said of practically any music app ever made, and honestly doesn't really guarantee anything whatsoever. I know it's not your only reason for buying it but it still stuck out to me like a sore thumb.

    Yeah, while I love the OP-1 Field a lot and plan to get mine Sunday, I think @dreamcartel loves it far more than me. 😂

    I think that if so much soul searching and discussion has to be done about whether to buy a non essential piece of kit, it probably means you're genuinely better off not getting it. It's likely a financial overstretch for those involved. If it wasn't, no one would be doing any hand wringing over it, so on those grounds alone I would consider taking a rain check on buying it.

    Sounds sensible to me. :) (I'm high rn. xD )

    Maybe you can sell him yours once the novelty wears off 🤪 😂

    That is if it wears off. Mate, the novelty of using an iPad and iPhone to produce music hasn't worn off after all these years. 😂 Jean-Michel Jarre uses an og OP-1, and the Field is basically a tricked out version of that.

    Don't tell me you don't have "that one piece of gear" you've longed to use for years. 🤣 Unless of course you bought it already.

    Ah haha... I genuinely don't really watch vids on gear as I already have so much stuff in storage or that I had to throw out over the years, due to moving around, so gear just doesn't fit with my lifestyle. If I was more settled very long term somewhere, I'm sure I would buy some stuff, yes - an Osmose and a Linnstrument are the first 2 that spring to mind. But only if I had the money, and I would likely be buying them up front, not really a fan of credit, financing etc. The only regular payments I make are for a few subs to things like YouTube Premium and the Guardian and those are things I can cancel at any time.

    Gear doesn't normally fit my lifestyle either, but that OP-1 Field sure would bring me some joy. I turn 40 next year, "you only live once" and tosh like that.

    Osmose and Linnstrument sound like fun to me. :) Man, years ago I didn't know how to properly budget my money. These days I'm a financial wizard and can make my money work for me. Plus I can write the OP-1 Field off on taxes. 😉

    Not saying that anyone else should follow my habits here btw! Not at all, they're just ones that work for me, in my own personal situation and with my own particular personality. I don't even have a car and have no intentions of ever having one, so I am definitely an outlier.

    You forgot to add "your mileage may vary". 😂🤣

    And imvho lol

    I'm so disappointed you forgot to add those catchphrases. 😂 (Just kidding.)

    Those aren't catchphrases, they're protective charms. One should never enter the online fray without first clutching onto them for dear life

    😂🤣🤣 Oh man. I'm laughing so hard here. I'm off to bed. Night.

  • HotStrangeHotStrange

    @zzrwood said:

    @dreamcartel said:
    I could: I love Roland and Korg. What are some of their flagships you would recommend as an alternative? @raabje

    One thing I know is korg and Roland are QUALITY. TE is hit and miss.

    Just a left field thought... A Yamaha MODX integrates wonderfully with an iPad... add a Roland MC-101, which also integrates well with an iPad, and you could cover a lot of musical ground and get portability as well (with the MC-101). And still be well under $2k...

    As you also mentioned the velocity keyboard on the OP-1f... I use the MC-101 wirelessly with a Korg NanoKey Studio and CME Bluetooth Midi adapter plugged in the MC-101. Works great...

    I had a 707 and liked it a lot. Don’t have it anymore but have been considering the 101 for a while now. Sampling/looping over usb sounds like a blast.

  • HotStrangeHotStrange

    Hope everything’s going well @dreamcartel let us know how it goes!

  • ButterfrogButterfrog
    edited December 2023

    @MrSmileZ said:
    An op-1 field?
    I don’t know man, this thread is like made of red flags.

    🚩

    Glad someone feels the same like I do.

  • dreamcarteldreamcartel
    edited December 2023

    @wim said:

    @dreamcartel said:
    That’s the gist of it (and fwiw she did apologize for it and said later “you just can’t take my criticism when I tell you to take parts out when you ask me my opinion. So either take my criticisms and apply them or don’t ask me to listen to something that you know I can’t stomach”)

    I don't like saying this but that part resonated with me. I get into that cycle with my wife only with the roles reversed. It can be frustrating for personality types like mine when asked for input and then the input is taken as hurtful.

    Her frustration may not have been about what she actually said at all. Rather it may have been frustration over causing you hurt by it. We rational types can get really frustrated when more sensitive types ghread emotional meaning we didn't intend into our analytical responses. We try to be helpful in our own way but it backfires. That gets frustrating.
    …..

    You are extremely intelligent and attuned to things most might be insensitive or unaware of.. I’m glad you shared that as it is my experience as well. I felt I needed to include that as I’ll say later more but thank you and I agree with the whole thing ; types and intent are very key in relationship nuances as this is more of what it’s about rather than the op1 itself, as this could be as easily for the deluge or octarack

    @zzrwood said:

    @dreamcartel said:
    I could: I love Roland and Korg. What are some of their flagships you would recommend as an alternative? @raabje

    One thing I know is korg and Roland are QUALITY. TE is hit and miss.

    Just a left field thought... A Yamaha MODX integrates wonderfully with an iPad... add a Roland MC-101, which also integrates well with an iPad, and you could cover a lot of musical ground and get portability as well (with the MC-101). And still be well under $2k...

    As you also mentioned the velocity keyboard on the OP-1f... I use the MC-101 wirelessly with a Korg NanoKey Studio and CME Bluetooth Midi adapter plugged in the MC-101. Works great...

    The mc101 was very appealing to me. It like a mini 707.. food for thought. Thanks

    @wim said:

    @Crano said:
    Recognizing ones core intentions in every little choice one makes will make a lot of valuable changes in life. It’s a simple concept but very powerful once you direct your attention to it.

    I learn something useful on this forum every day. That was today's nugget right there. 😎

    That’s why I thought Crano is somehow involved in a ch’an art ;) very very spiritually wise in the way I perceive your rational intellectually based logical approach to human issues. You’re both wonderful people

    @Crano said:

    @LinearLineman said:
    I agree with what you’re saying @Crano. I usually call it will, but I think it’s the same thing. If I don’t have the will I can’t connect to the part of me that can access improvising outside of my conscious thoughts. The “8ntention” allows me to sidestep that thoughtfulness and the judgements that inevitably come along with it.

    You’re speaking on what some people call ‘being in the zone’ or ‘in the flow’?

    Yes it’s all interlinked. It’s basically meditation. Once you start to focus too much on your thoughts or even worse judgements (like you say) you will immediately be cut off from the source of flow you were in.

    Great artists don’t invent. They are just great channelers with sufficient control over their tools. Anyone can be great. As long as they are authentically attuned to who they really are, be one with all, handle with clear intention and are fully dedicated to the present moment. That should do the trick.

    We must chat one day on things musical and non :wink:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    @Crano said:
    In reply to your deliberations on specific pieces of gear I would (as someone who acquired quite a lot of different gear over the years) suggest to figure out if you have a specific workflow you want to follow. Because a lot of devices force a workflow with their own logic on you. When you’re used to a certain piece of gear (or software) and you then move to a new hardware groovebox for instance, you might be surprised by the limitations you never imagined there would be. If you can surrender to this and want to be creative with what you get there’s no issue. But if you have specific wishes you better do your homework first 😁✌🏻

    This, I agree 100% with all of this. :) Regarding my GAS for an OP-1 Field, as I said elsewhere, I did my homework on its workflow (Youtube, skimming the manual online, etc). At first it didn't appeal to me and my GAS was cured, but I think I want to learn the limitations, workflow, etc of the OP-1 Field. Its unique workflow fascinates me.

    There are also many top producers who use the original OP-1 according to Equipboard, including one of my main electronic music inspos Jean-Michel Jarre! Even though I'm not really all that influenced by "influencers" (I'd have a flat full of hardware by now if I bought everything Hainbach speaks about on his channel lol), I AM heavily influenced by JMJ and have been since I was much younger than I am now. For instance, JMJ is why I experimented with binaural panning about 5-6 months ago.

    @BroCoast said:

    @dreamcartel said:

    What would you do if the person giving you the greatest synth station and jewel of the synth world said basically “are you sure you are getting something you ‘are good enough for’?” And now I’m like shit, should I just get something else man?

    😂

    I don’t let people buy me anything to do with music.

    As far as being good enough, I buy/sell a lot of gear and most of the people I deal with can barely play. Who cares man, if it makes you happy.

    I would find a way to purchase the OP-1f yourself and not accept such a gift.

    👆👆👆💯

    Yeah, forget what your wife said. Like BroCoast said, if it makes you happy @dreamcartel , get it yourself. You don't want to be given a gift that can then be held over your head by someone who treats you like that and criticises the music you make.

    You two might have the answer for the external issue here, whcih may help the internal. Just get it myself for my birthday. Now that will take longer but it’s perhaps a better route. And fwiw when I watched the two 1.5 hour mega tutorials, and sun wu vidoes I was Sold. I wanted it . It was just like you resolution to attain but the method may be different….heck I can even ask my sis and folks to go over her head and say they wanted to get it and I’ll chip in on my own order lol :lol:

    @Gavinski said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:
    Yeah, forget what your wife said. Like BroCoast said, if it makes you happy @dreamcartel , get it yourself. You don't want to be given a gift that can then be held over your head by someone who treats you like that and criticises the music you make.

    I dunno, sometimes when you're in a relationship with someone you have to be honest even if it might hurt them. And is she going to hold it over him? I don't think we know enough to guess at that. To me it's just a couple having a worthwhile discussion in advance, about sth that sounds like it would be a significant financial outlay. In that context her doubts about whether buying this will really get the results the OP is looking for, when an iPad, apps and desktop software did not manage to do it, seem very valid.

    @dreamcartel some words from your post in the other thread made me worry a bit that you kind of drank the kool aid over the op1f. You mentioned that it is made by musicians for musicians. But that, apart from sounding like absolute marketing drivel, could also be said of practically any music app ever made, and honestly doesn't really guarantee anything whatsoever. I know it's not your only reason for buying it but it still stuck out to me like a sore thumb.

    I think that if so much soul searching and discussion has to be done about whether to buy a non essential piece of kit, it probably means you're genuinely better off not getting it. It's likely a financial overstretch for those involved. If it wasn't, no one would be doing any hand wringing over it, so on those grounds alone I would consider taking a rain check on buying it.

    Thank you for the relationship sensitivity , you are really good at human intersections so I’ll keep alll what you said in mind

    Re the kool aid , yes , that was said while watching a YT video where the guy (Jenny?) said “people complain about price but this is a professional tool, made by musician for musician” and I thought he was right how he broke it down. And with Jim point after seeing endless things maybe I made my own koolaid and got drunk off my own supply? It’s possible I’m enamored with the aesthetic too as echo mentioned but no, really really , I spoke to Tarekith and it is what I wanted

    What this thread is really unraveling is , is the op1 worth the “red flag “ as Mr Smilez said, to fruition, but based on our communication it’s the outlying factor I’ll have to decide on . The variable now is how will I get it. Not so much anymore “I’m not worthy”. I think if I chose something besides the Mc- X0X I would get the op1F but still we’ll see. I found one in display and I’m going to try it if I can if it’s still there

    @NoiseHorse said:
    You ARE good enough. I’m a guitar player and if I broke my arm and became useless I would still buy the coolest guitar possible. Hell with what other people think of my music. I don’t play it for them anymore anyway.

    THANK YOU! I needed to hear that once.

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    @dreamcartel some words from your post in the other thread made me worry a bit that you kind of drank the kool aid a bit too much over the op1f. You mentioned that this is made by musicians for musicians. But that, apart from sounding like absolute marketing drivel, could also be said of practically any music app ever made, and honestly doesn't really guarantee anything whatsoever. I know it's not your only reason for buying it but it still stuck out to me like a sore thumb.

    Yeah, while I love the OP-1 Field a lot and plan to get mine Sunday, I think @dreamcartel loves it far more than me. 😂

    Jim knows me kind of well, and I told him a lot of my interpretations of the op1F so yeah he might be right on that. And I’m glad to hear you in such good spirits thanks to the herbal remedies man lol

    But overall Gavin, brocoast said it best in perhaps just waiting too, it’s non essential to what I’m doing. It’s just as you said what I wanted (badly) lol jwm is a crack up sometimes hahah thanks

    @hotstrange yes thanks, internally things are much better in the home. I’m feeling lots better about this decision as well but more Important is it led to positive results in my head and home and looks like for others too I hope

    @Poppadocrock you are right

    @Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredr thanks for that question. I would say she was my “QC” for commercializing my sound. I write like a classical composer so it’s often too rigid and too linear. She tries to show me how to make it pop friendly or accessible but I often can’t incorporate things how she hears them. She’s just drummer, no musical background compositional but she knows music. So her frustration is understandable but her reaction is unwarranted. A gift should be given with full love and support it’ll open creative outlets not reinforce deficiency

    But as I told hotstrange things are cool and I’m not worried about it ;)

  • SimonSimon
    edited December 2023


  • dreamcarteldreamcartel
    edited December 2023

    @Simon said:

    Good call sir

    Like I thought @zah you have nothing to say

  • BruquesBruques

    for whatever it's (not) worth, (and keeping in mind i don't really understand the appeal of TE's products relative to their price thus i'm the wrong person), i like the idea of the synthstrom deluge https://synthstrom.com/product/deluge/. like all hardware it isn't better than what i can do on ios, and actually i'm a huge fan of touchscreen as interface, nevertheless still worth it relative to any other hardware. that probably doesn't help but it's an opinion :smile:

    https://synthstrom.com/product/deluge/

  • LinearLinemanLinearLineman
    edited December 2023

    @dreamcartel lol, bro, now you’re getting flack from overactive minds. Just to complicate your thinking… how about a new 12.9 iPad Pro with 1T memory? Less than $2500!

  • dreamcarteldreamcartel

    @LinearLineman said:
    @dreamcartel lol, bro, now you’re getting flack from overactive minds. Just to complicate your thinking… how about a new 12.9 iPad Pro with 1T memory? Less than $2500!

    I know man, I know. (TY :wink: )

    @Bruques said:
    for whatever it's (not) worth, (and keeping in mind i don't really understand the appeal of TE's products relative to their price thus i'm the wrong person), i like the idea of the synthstrom deluge https://synthstrom.com/product/deluge/. like all hardware it isn't better than what i can do on ios, and actually i'm a huge fan of touchscreen as interface, nevertheless still worth it relative to any other hardware. that probably doesn't help but it's an opinion :smile:

    https://synthstrom.com/product/deluge/

    I did not see this video. I saw deluge videos but this was very informative because he focused in on key points of comparison. I appreciate information of all kinds and this is helpful, at the very least because the deluge was the top contender besides the mc 707. I like all 3 machines honestly

    What else is a fair option to throw in:
    Op1F
    Mpc one
    Deluge
    Mc 707

    Is there anything else in that sub $2.5k range like those 4 machines?

  • ErrkaPettiErrkaPetti
    edited December 2023

    @raabje said:
    You can also buy a flagship synthesizer or workstation for $2500 from Korg, Yamaha, Roland instead of this glorified pocket calculator (not dissing it....). Maybe such a purchase would bring you further? I would investigate that route also a bit more because of this opportunity.

    You can’t compare an Op1f with an big heavy workstation that needs external power supply, and is’nt mobile…

    And if we should buy a ‘complete” workstation today, it wouldn’t be Jupiter-X, it would be a Yamaha Genos V2 ($5995)…

  • dreamcarteldreamcartel

    @ErrkaPetti said:

    @raabje said:
    You can also buy a flagship synthesizer or workstation for $2500 from Korg, Yamaha, Roland instead of this glorified pocket calculator (not dissing it....). Maybe such a purchase would bring you further? I would investigate that route also a bit more because of this opportunity.

    You can’t compair an Op1f with an big heavy workstation that needs external power supply, and is’nt mobile…

    And if we should buy a ‘complete” workstation today, it wouldn’t be Jupiter-X, it would be a Yamaha Genos V2 ($5995)…

    It’s true. The form factor and all in 1 portability completely void of cables and power are a big thing. That’s why the MC101 Looked appealing but I don’t know if it does what 707 can. (And yes erkka is right, but a Yamaha or korg and Roland keyboard workstation are triple the price and a bit too much for me) the simplicity of the op1F and it’s streamlined limited(ing) workflow are appealing to me

  • raabjeraabje
    edited December 2023

    @ErrkaPetti said:
    You can’t compare an Op1f with an big heavy workstation that needs external power supply, and is’nt mobile…

    And if we should buy a ‘complete” workstation today, it wouldn’t be Jupiter-X, it would be a Yamaha Genos V2 ($5995)…

    Well, I didn't compare them. My suggestion was if you have 2500 to burn there are maybe other things than this pocket calculator on steroids. And Jupiter-X is no workstation, it is (in the Roland world....) a flagship synthesizer.

  • ErrkaPettiErrkaPetti
    edited December 2023

    @raabje

    Sorry, but it was you calling Jupiter-X for a Workstation…

    You said earlier:

    ” Roland Jupiter-X comes to my mind for a complete synthesizer Workstation ”

  • raabjeraabje
    edited December 2023

    @ErrkaPetti said:
    Sorry, but it was you calling Jupiter-X for a Workstation…

    You said earlier:

    ” Roland Jupiter-X comes to my mind for a complete synthesizer Workstation ”

    Come on man.... I wrote this, not that

    Roland Jupiter-X comes to my mind for a complete synthesizer.

    Workstation, anything that can help you creating tracks an easy way, without a computer.

    Off course Ipad has everything already but then we keep talking in circles ;-)

  • ErrkaPettiErrkaPetti

    @raabje said:

    @ErrkaPetti said:
    You can’t compare an Op1f with an big heavy workstation that needs external power supply, and is’nt mobile…

    And if we should buy a ‘complete” workstation today, it wouldn’t be Jupiter-X, it would be a Yamaha Genos V2 ($5995)…

    Well, I didn't compare them. My suggestion was if you have 2500 to burn there are maybe other things than this pocket calculator on steroids. And Jupiter-X is no workstation, it is (in the Roland world....) a flagship synthesizer.

    Why do you call TE Op1F for a pocket calculator?
    I have never seen anybody manage to calculate on this synthesizer, but, maybe you have been?

    Or, you just envy people that has the possibility to buy this incredible and fun synthesizer?

  • TarekithTarekith

    The OP-1 Field is pretty stupid at the end of the day. If all you care about is traveling to remote locations to make good sounding music in a really fun way, then MAYBE it will work ok for you. For instance I wrote 5 solid song ideas I’m super happy with over the last two days. But that’s it; I didn’t win any Grammys, no adoring fans came to hear my morning serenade on the Oregon coast, and my breakfast tasted the same as it always does. Weak.

    Also, it sucks as a calculator, there’s no minus button you can only add things. Lame.

    Back to my shitty little music making session I guess.

    /s

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