how negative criticism can affect positive change

dreamcartel

@Tarekith said:

The OP-1 Field is pretty stupid at the end of the day. If all you care about is traveling to remote locations to make good sounding music in a really fun way, then MAYBE it will work ok for you. For instance I wrote 5 solid song ideas I’m super happy with over the last two days. But that’s it; I didn’t win any Grammys, no adoring fans came to hear my morning serenade on the Oregon coast, and my breakfast tasted the same as it always does. Weak.

Also, it sucks as a calculator, there’s no minus button you can only add things. Lame.

Back to my shitty little music making session I guess.

/s

Gavinski

@Tarekith said:

The OP-1 Field is pretty stupid at the end of the day. If all you care about is traveling to remote locations to make good sounding music in a really fun way, then MAYBE it will work ok for you. For instance I wrote 5 solid song ideas I’m super happy with over the last two days. But that’s it; I didn’t win any Grammys, no adoring fans came to hear my morning serenade on the Oregon coast, and my breakfast tasted the same as it always does. Weak.

Also, it sucks as a calculator, there’s no minus button you can only add things. Lame.

Back to my shitty little music making session I guess.

/s

At least you also got a nice gear porn photo out of it!

@raabje
Are you sure you’re not mixing it up with the recently released K.O. II? That is the one that looks like a calculator. The OP1F may be overpriced but calling it an oversized calculator seems a tad harsh and inaccurate, lol

Tarekith

DC - just get the OP-1F. It has a good resale value, so if you don’t bond with it you can always sell it for not a huge loss.

dreamcartel

@Tarekith said:
DC - just get the OP-1F. It has a good resale value, so if you don’t bond with it you can always sell it for not a huge loss.

Thank you Tarekith. (You had me sold on it with that one video you did, and your song that everyone should check out.)

supadom

Take your wife and whomever you care about and go on a lush holiday. Take your iPad with you, make some experiences, make some music. That’s my angle.

dreamcartel

@zah said:

@dreamcartel said:

@zah said:

@dreamcartel said:
the greatest synth station and jewel of the synth world

@raabje said:
this glorified pocket calculator

lol...so which is it?

@dreamcartel said:
I was told pick a gift from $40-2500 , and make sure it’s final answer as financing will go into effect collectively starting this >month for first payment so it ships and arrive early next year)

Your family will go in debt for you and you want to take the full $2500? I think that is brutally selfish.

This:

@wim said:
I’d never accept a gift from someone with that kind attitude, no matter how much I wanted it. That isn’t a gift if it comes with expectations, guilt trip, whatever. Gifts are to bestow joy and express love, they shouldn’t be turned into some weird kind of passive aggressive statement.

I’d give it a pass for now and wait for another opportunity, myself.

Even better:

@LinearLineman said:
Use the money to buy something your whole family will enjoy. No one can argue about that and you certainly won’t suck. There’s always another birthday and you’ll blow their fing minds.

@dreamcartel I'd suggest you go back and read all the posts that don't support buying any hardware.

And I suggest you reconsider me being selfish. I was offered a gift. I’m not putting my family in any debt whatsoever. You clearly didn’t read the entire thread man

In fact you missed the part where I said maybe just a family vacation would be better spent

But that’s besides the point : my wife is paying $750, and my parents and sister are putting in the rest. It’s a collective gift

Shit man, I’m turning 40 only once. And honestly I don’t get a lot of “boutique things.” I have a lot of nice things but I don’t have anything special like an MC707 or an MPC one ; I was told since your turning 40 you have carte Blanche (which to my wife is whatever her maximum spend for a birthday gift was ) , get whatever you want

At first it was to be a custom guitar!! That came to $2800 and I said that was too much

That was on the bill since last year

Instead I recently just changed it to the opz because I wanted to save money

Then when I spoke to a few people and told my wife about the issues of QC she told me “why don’t you get the better one? Don’t be cheap with yourself especially when I’m telling you to get what you want if you don’t want that guitar “

So dude, thanks for your input but the op1F IS the best instrument of its kind, glorified or not, QC or not, and that is debatable but I think I stand by my impression. I never played one but if the videos are accurate and Tarekith and Echo opera made music with it enjoyably , I have a feeling it might be fun for me too

This thread was kind of positive and it already climaxed nicely. I have no idea how you think I’m selfish because I’m getting a family gift and you missed the entire point of the thread .

I’m getting the op1F because I’m loved, not because I’m a selfish GAS addict.

In fact I was told I could get something up to $2750 -2800 originally but I called it at $2500 to make it a round number, when my wife said I’m going to put the order in with your parents a few months ago and I told her no, wait….

you know what, this thread is the opposite of talking myself out of the op1F now. I was hoping it would make me feel unworthy . Instead it made me realize if I want it, I can and should get it considering what it is. It’s not a personal purchase. I wanted to know philosophically if getting an instrument under such mentality was ok, and now that I went through the gamut of different perspectives, the most important ones have nothin to do with the op1

I still am incredibly stunned out of all this, you garnered im a selfish man who is putting my family in debt for a calculator.

Let me ask you this: do you have any TE stuff or have you tried it? What do you think of the op1F or opz from experience . Can you tell me why I shouldn’t get it , specifically? We’ve never interacted and I’ve never read your posts so I’d like to get an idea of your mentality (did you read the entire thread or did you cherry pick?) rather than you referring to others I know

if you don’t want to reply because you think I’m brutally selfish you can say so plainly but don’t presume anything about my family when I clearly laid out the situation and the thread was already fading out

You yourself, in this thread, had mentioned that maybe you were being selfish. And if I was the second poster in this thread, I would have said the same thing. Where I come from, anyone who takes the full amount of an amount offered from 40-2500 would be a little shit. (but that's just where I come from).

Enjoy your new toy - or rather "the greatest synth station and jewel of the synth world".
...

btw, if you are wondering about a poster's credibility or whatever, you can simply click on their name, and click Comments. Cheers.

You’re a jealous clown. That’s all I got from your crediblity.

jwmmakerofmusic

@zah said:

@dreamcartel said:

@zah said:

@dreamcartel said:
the greatest synth station and jewel of the synth world

@raabje said:
this glorified pocket calculator

lol...so which is it?

@dreamcartel said:
I was told pick a gift from $40-2500 , and make sure it’s final answer as financing will go into effect collectively starting this >month for first payment so it ships and arrive early next year)

Your family will go in debt for you and you want to take the full $2500? I think that is brutally selfish.

This:

@wim said:
I’d never accept a gift from someone with that kind attitude, no matter how much I wanted it. That isn’t a gift if it comes with expectations, guilt trip, whatever. Gifts are to bestow joy and express love, they shouldn’t be turned into some weird kind of passive aggressive statement.

I’d give it a pass for now and wait for another opportunity, myself.

Even better:

@LinearLineman said:
Use the money to buy something your whole family will enjoy. No one can argue about that and you certainly won’t suck. There’s always another birthday and you’ll blow their fing minds.

@dreamcartel I'd suggest you go back and read all the posts that don't support buying any hardware.

And I suggest you reconsider me being selfish. I was offered a gift. I’m not putting my family in any debt whatsoever. You clearly didn’t read the entire thread man

In fact you missed the part where I said maybe just a family vacation would be better spent

But that’s besides the point : my wife is paying $750, and my parents and sister are putting in the rest. It’s a collective gift

Shit man, I’m turning 40 only once. And honestly I don’t get a lot of “boutique things.” I have a lot of nice things but I don’t have anything special like an MC707 or an MPC one ; I was told since your turning 40 you have carte Blanche (which to my wife is whatever her maximum spend for a birthday gift was ) , get whatever you want

At first it was to be a custom guitar!! That came to $2800 and I said that was too much

That was on the bill since last year

Instead I recently just changed it to the opz because I wanted to save money

Then when I spoke to a few people and told my wife about the issues of QC she told me “why don’t you get the better one? Don’t be cheap with yourself especially when I’m telling you to get what you want if you don’t want that guitar “

So dude, thanks for your input but the op1F IS the best instrument of its kind, glorified or not, QC or not, and that is debatable but I think I stand by my impression. I never played one but if the videos are accurate and Tarekith and Echo opera made music with it enjoyably , I have a feeling it might be fun for me too

This thread was kind of positive and it already climaxed nicely. I have no idea how you think I’m selfish because I’m getting a family gift and you missed the entire point of the thread .

I’m getting the op1F because I’m loved, not because I’m a selfish GAS addict.

In fact I was told I could get something up to $2750 -2800 originally but I called it at $2500 to make it a round number, when my wife said I’m going to put the order in with your parents a few months ago and I told her no, wait….

you know what, this thread is the opposite of talking myself out of the op1F now. I was hoping it would make me feel unworthy . Instead it made me realize if I want it, I can and should get it considering what it is. It’s not a personal purchase. I wanted to know philosophically if getting an instrument under such mentality was ok, and now that I went through the gamut of different perspectives, the most important ones have nothin to do with the op1

I still am incredibly stunned out of all this, you garnered im a selfish man who is putting my family in debt for a calculator.

Let me ask you this: do you have any TE stuff or have you tried it? What do you think of the op1F or opz from experience . Can you tell me why I shouldn’t get it , specifically? We’ve never interacted and I’ve never read your posts so I’d like to get an idea of your mentality (did you read the entire thread or did you cherry pick?) rather than you referring to others I know

if you don’t want to reply because you think I’m brutally selfish you can say so plainly but don’t presume anything about my family when I clearly laid out the situation and the thread was already fading out

You yourself, in this thread, had mentioned that maybe you were being selfish. And if I was the second poster in this thread, I would have said the same thing. Where I come from, anyone who takes the full amount of an amount offered from 40-2500 would be a little shit. (but that's just where I come from).

Enjoy your new toy - or rather "the greatest synth station and jewel of the synth world".
...

btw, if you are wondering about a poster's credibility or whatever, you can simply click on their name, and click Comments. Cheers.

The same can be done for you. I've noticed nothing of real value added from you to this forum. You don't even post in the Creations section, so what credibility as a musician do you have around here? What positivity do you actually add to this community? What help do you give to your fellow iOS musicians?

Quite frankly if you want to be snide, aggressive and antagonistic, take up residency at one of the toxic music forums full of your sort like Gear Space, KVR, Dubstep Forums, etc. We don't need your sort here!

dreamcartel

@supadom said:
Take your wife and whomever you care about and go on a lush holiday. Take your iPad with you, make some experiences, make some music. That’s my angle.

Thanks Dom: after this guy^ I could use it lol

@jwmmakerofmusic said:

@zah said:

@dreamcartel said:

@zah said:

@dreamcartel said:
the greatest synth station and jewel of the synth world

@raabje said:
this glorified pocket calculator

lol...so which is it?

@dreamcartel said:
I was told pick a gift from $40-2500 , and make sure it’s final answer as financing will go into effect collectively starting this >month for first payment so it ships and arrive early next year)

Your family will go in debt for you and you want to take the full $2500? I think that is brutally selfish.

This:

@wim said:
I’d never accept a gift from someone with that kind attitude, no matter how much I wanted it. That isn’t a gift if it comes with expectations, guilt trip, whatever. Gifts are to bestow joy and express love, they shouldn’t be turned into some weird kind of passive aggressive statement.

I’d give it a pass for now and wait for another opportunity, myself.

Even better:

@LinearLineman said:
Use the money to buy something your whole family will enjoy. No one can argue about that and you certainly won’t suck. There’s always another birthday and you’ll blow their fing minds.

@dreamcartel I'd suggest you go back and read all the posts that don't support buying any hardware.

And I suggest you reconsider me being selfish. I was offered a gift. I’m not putting my family in any debt whatsoever. You clearly didn’t read the entire thread man

In fact you missed the part where I said maybe just a family vacation would be better spent

But that’s besides the point : my wife is paying $750, and my parents and sister are putting in the rest. It’s a collective gift

Shit man, I’m turning 40 only once. And honestly I don’t get a lot of “boutique things.” I have a lot of nice things but I don’t have anything special like an MC707 or an MPC one ; I was told since your turning 40 you have carte Blanche (which to my wife is whatever her maximum spend for a birthday gift was ) , get whatever you want

At first it was to be a custom guitar!! That came to $2800 and I said that was too much

That was on the bill since last year

Instead I recently just changed it to the opz because I wanted to save money

Then when I spoke to a few people and told my wife about the issues of QC she told me “why don’t you get the better one? Don’t be cheap with yourself especially when I’m telling you to get what you want if you don’t want that guitar “

So dude, thanks for your input but the op1F IS the best instrument of its kind, glorified or not, QC or not, and that is debatable but I think I stand by my impression. I never played one but if the videos are accurate and Tarekith and Echo opera made music with it enjoyably , I have a feeling it might be fun for me too

This thread was kind of positive and it already climaxed nicely. I have no idea how you think I’m selfish because I’m getting a family gift and you missed the entire point of the thread .

I’m getting the op1F because I’m loved, not because I’m a selfish GAS addict.

In fact I was told I could get something up to $2750 -2800 originally but I called it at $2500 to make it a round number, when my wife said I’m going to put the order in with your parents a few months ago and I told her no, wait….

you know what, this thread is the opposite of talking myself out of the op1F now. I was hoping it would make me feel unworthy . Instead it made me realize if I want it, I can and should get it considering what it is. It’s not a personal purchase. I wanted to know philosophically if getting an instrument under such mentality was ok, and now that I went through the gamut of different perspectives, the most important ones have nothin to do with the op1

I still am incredibly stunned out of all this, you garnered im a selfish man who is putting my family in debt for a calculator.

Let me ask you this: do you have any TE stuff or have you tried it? What do you think of the op1F or opz from experience . Can you tell me why I shouldn’t get it , specifically? We’ve never interacted and I’ve never read your posts so I’d like to get an idea of your mentality (did you read the entire thread or did you cherry pick?) rather than you referring to others I know

if you don’t want to reply because you think I’m brutally selfish you can say so plainly but don’t presume anything about my family when I clearly laid out the situation and the thread was already fading out

You yourself, in this thread, had mentioned that maybe you were being selfish. And if I was the second poster in this thread, I would have said the same thing. Where I come from, anyone who takes the full amount of an amount offered from 40-2500 would be a little shit. (but that's just where I come from).

Enjoy your new toy - or rather "the greatest synth station and jewel of the synth world".
...

btw, if you are wondering about a poster's credibility or whatever, you can simply click on their name, and click Comments. Cheers.

The same can be done for you. I've noticed nothing of real value added from you to this forum. You don't even post in the Creations section, so what credibility as a musician do you have around here? What positivity do you actually add to this community? What help do you give to your fellow iOS musicians?

Quite frankly if you want to be snide, aggressive and antagonistic, take up residency at one of the toxic music forums full of your sort like Gear Space, KVR, Dubstep Forums, etc. We don't need your sort here!

+1

abf

@dreamcartel
My Op-1f is my second favorite musical purchase ever (after my guitar) but my worry would be that you have built it up in your mind. I would be seriously afraid of buyer's remorse just because of how much you hope it will be perfect. It's not perfect, it has quirks, a few bugs, and quite a few limitations. Just know going in it is not the jewel of the synth world, it's just a very cool synth/sampler/recorder. Our music is still the same as before the Op-1f arrived .

But if you do get one, same @jwmmakerofmusic, post here and I'll be happy to share some sampled instruments I've made, a nice felt piano and some tron strings etc.

jwmmakerofmusic

@abf said:
@dreamcartel
My Op-1f is my second favorite musical purchase ever (after my guitar) but my worry would be that you have built it up in your mind. I would be seriously afraid of buyer's remorse just because of how much you hope it will be perfect. It's not perfect, it has quirks, a few bugs, and quite a few limitations. Just know going in it is not the jewel of the synth world, it's just a very cool synth/sampler/recorder. Our music is still the same as before the Op-1f arrived .

But if you do get one, same @jwmmakerofmusic, post here and I'll be happy to share some sampled instruments I've made, a nice felt piano and some tron strings etc.

Thanks mate. Much appreciated. What kind of bugs does the OP-1 Field have mate? (I don't recall seeing bugs reported in any workflow videos I watched, so this would definitely be helpful info.)

wim

Woah @zah got banned?

dreamcartel

@jwmmakerofmusic said:

@abf said:
@dreamcartel
My Op-1f is my second favorite musical purchase ever (after my guitar) but my worry would be that you have built it up in your mind. I would be seriously afraid of buyer's remorse just because of how much you hope it will be perfect. It's not perfect, it has quirks, a few bugs, and quite a few limitations. Just know going in it is not the jewel of the synth world, it's just a very cool synth/sampler/recorder. Our music is still the same as before the Op-1f arrived .

But if you do get one, same @jwmmakerofmusic, post here and I'll be happy to share some sampled instruments I've made, a nice felt piano and some tron strings etc.

Thanks mate. Much appreciated. What kind of bugs does the OP-1 Field have mate? (I don't recall seeing bugs reported in any workflow videos I watched, so this would definitely be helpful info.)

Yes, Thank you. I would definitely love that. @abf

and the 99% of you positive members out there that helped, thank you and don’t worry : I’m not disillusioned by either the haters or Gung-ho fans. I called it the “synth DAW jewel” but that is indeed my own interpretation and exaggeration. The sequencers are limited, midi is somewhat limited, 4 tracks, no undo , etc… I’ve accounted for what seemed to be scary surprises if you didn’t know about before getting the unit

This was an informed decision I didn’t make lightly. Tarekith actually was patient and generous with his time and since he is one of the most talented individuals who actually owns both opz and op1F, I hold his critique and opinion extremely high. I was going for either TE OP and while I still kind of prefer the idea of the op-z and some of its functions, I’m looking to make full tracks and I think the 25 key velocity keyboard is going to make me happier after playing the mini keyboard of my s-1. Also I made the decision because the opz has a lot of “bug reports” whereas I rarely see issues with the field in comparison, and it seems the issues with the TE are usually solved quickly the op1F whereas the opz some people were on 3 or 4 replacement units (to Jwm question if there are issues please let us know what yours were)

Just like a guitar no instrument is perfect. One guitar sounds like this; another guitar may be capable of incredible tremolo tricks, but you have to try different guitars to see which one fits. Sometimes you’ll sell one, sometimes you’ll modify one and you’ll change which you play depending on your mood. I really won’t know until it’s in my hands unfortunately, and even then it would take days to see if it is a fit; And to go back to Tarekith point , if it turns out that I can’t operate the machine, the resale won’t be difficult…

Thanks for all your kind words, and non judgmental replies regardless of how you feel about the product. This was a very fruitful topic even if some tried to ruin it

HotStrange

If you’re looking for other recommendations @dreamcartel id be remiss if I didn’t mention the Octatrack. It’s still on my list as well.

abf

@jwmmakerofmusic said:

@abf said:
@dreamcartel
My Op-1f is my second favorite musical purchase ever (after my guitar) but my worry would be that you have built it up in your mind. I would be seriously afraid of buyer's remorse just because of how much you hope it will be perfect. It's not perfect, it has quirks, a few bugs, and quite a few limitations. Just know going in it is not the jewel of the synth world, it's just a very cool synth/sampler/recorder. Our music is still the same as before the Op-1f arrived .

But if you do get one, same @jwmmakerofmusic, post here and I'll be happy to share some sampled instruments I've made, a nice felt piano and some tron strings etc.

Thanks mate. Much appreciated. What kind of bugs does the OP-1 Field have mate? (I don't recall seeing bugs reported in any workflow videos I watched, so this would definitely be helpful info.)

Sometimes if you load a file into the drum sampler and slice it there can be a little click at the end of some slices. It's easy to set the slice in and out points, but if there is audio in between drum hits, like reverb tails for instance, there is no way to fade it out properly. But someone here posted that possibly the next update will contain something for the drum sampler, I'm hoping there will be a fix for the clicks.

I've also gotten a little click at the edge of a piece of tape I've dropped, that's less common but I wish there was a crossfade option in the tape machines. It doesn't happen all the time, even on busy tracks, so I'm not sure what is going on there. I'd like to be able to choose a crossfade value for edits, like in Logic I have it set to always crossfade two pieces of audio by 2ms to avoid any clicks. Crossfades would be in keeping with the tape paradigm as it's proper to edit tape by cutting on a bias.

Tarekith

True, there are no fades at all in the OP-1F, which can be annoying at times. Sometimes you can mask it with other sounds, but not always. Would be pretty cool if they implemented short fades by default, or at least the option to.

abf

Also, just want to mention that op-forums.com is a nice space with loads of good information. There are many relevant posts at both the Op-1 and Op-1field forums.

wim

@dreamcartel said:
Just like a guitar no instrument is perfect.

No. Any guitar is perfect, by definition.
Some are just more perfecter than others.

jwmmakerofmusic

@wim said:
Woah @zah got banned?

I'm not at all surprised. Right, it's one thing to criticise/make fun of a piece of gear/a company/etc. That's fair game. But outright personally insulting someone? That's a surefire way to get a ban, and I'm not surprised it happened.

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@abf said:

@jwmmakerofmusic said:

@abf said:
@dreamcartel
My Op-1f is my second favorite musical purchase ever (after my guitar) but my worry would be that you have built it up in your mind. I would be seriously afraid of buyer's remorse just because of how much you hope it will be perfect. It's not perfect, it has quirks, a few bugs, and quite a few limitations. Just know going in it is not the jewel of the synth world, it's just a very cool synth/sampler/recorder. Our music is still the same as before the Op-1f arrived .

But if you do get one, same @jwmmakerofmusic, post here and I'll be happy to share some sampled instruments I've made, a nice felt piano and some tron strings etc.

Thanks mate. Much appreciated. What kind of bugs does the OP-1 Field have mate? (I don't recall seeing bugs reported in any workflow videos I watched, so this would definitely be helpful info.)

Sometimes if you load a file into the drum sampler and slice it there can be a little click at the end of some slices. It's easy to set the slice in and out points, but if there is audio in between drum hits, like reverb tails for instance, there is no way to fade it out properly. But someone here posted that possibly the next update will contain something for the drum sampler, I'm hoping there will be a fix for the clicks.

I've also gotten a little click at the edge of a piece of tape I've dropped, that's less common but I wish there was a crossfade option in the tape machines. It doesn't happen all the time, even on busy tracks, so I'm not sure what is going on there. I'd like to be able to choose a crossfade value for edits, like in Logic I have it set to always crossfade two pieces of audio by 2ms to avoid any clicks. Crossfades would be in keeping with the tape paradigm as it's proper to edit tape by cutting on a bias.

Ah, just clicks and pops. Hopefully there will be a crossfade update for the drum sampler, but at least it won't take me by surprise. Thanks for letting us know mate.

Simon

@wim said:
Woah @zah got banned?

Woah indeed.

Moral of the story: when a Forum member asks "do I suck" it is probably better not to answer anything.

Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredr

OP-1 lacks an undo button. You better be good at getting things right the first time!

Bruques

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dreamcartel

@Simon said:

@wim said:
Woah @zah got banned?

Woah indeed.

Moral of the story: when a Forum member asks "do I suck" it is probably better not to answer anything.

Fwiw dude, he called me a greedy —-, criticized me as a father and Then as a musician, and also a —— . Call me crazy but I think that’s like multiple forum rules not to break. The post was removed but I don’t feel it was improper , never having interacted or spoken to him in my life and all ofc

Simon

@dreamcartel said:
The post was removed

Ah, ok.

I didn't see it.

Simon

@Tarekith said:

Screw the keyboard - just give me that view!

wim

Me either. I didn't see it either and I'm glad I didn't.
I trust the forum moderators to make good calls. I was just surprised to discover it when I went to their comments to see what the criticisms were about.

animalelder

@wim said:
Woah @zah got banned?

People get banned here?!?

espiegel123

@animalelder said:

@wim said:
Woah @zah got banned?

People get banned here?!?

If you go far over the line and attack people, yes. Just like you can get booted from the pub.

audiblevideo

@animalelder said:

@wim said:
Woah @zah got banned?

People get banned here?!?

Rare but, yes, people get banned here.

MrSmileZ

@Tarekith said:

The OP-1 Field is pretty stupid at the end of the day. If all you care about is traveling to remote locations to make good sounding music in a really fun way, then MAYBE it will work ok for you. For instance I wrote 5 solid song ideas I’m super happy with over the last two days. But that’s it; I didn’t win any Grammys, no adoring fans came to hear my morning serenade on the Oregon coast, and my breakfast tasted the same as it always does. Weak.

Also, it sucks as a calculator, there’s no minus button you can only add things. Lame.

Back to my shitty little music making session I guess.

/s

Ahhhh that freakin view bro…wow, I’ll eat a weak ass breakfast as long as the coffee is strong!

MrSmileZ

The mc707 was decent!
The sampler sounds HOT, it roughs up the sound a tiny bit (i liked that about it actually, but not everyone will)
The amount of Roland sounds it has in it is immense…it’s a scrollers wet dream
8 tracks is a fair amount and the 808 sequencing is nice
As is the probability and the editor for the granular effect scatter thing is kinda great.

What I didn’t like…
The tiny screen, the menu diving, the lack of an editor, no metronome (when I had it), the chain song mode isn’t my favorite…
Editing a sample was surprisingly ok (not great) but better than it should be on that little screen.

Over all it sounded great, and it was a nice lap dog.
I sold it to buy a Fantom 6 (now EX) I miss it a time or two a month.
I had it and an MPC Live and made multitudes of mega trashy songs and sequences hahahaha