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You are starting to convince me to buy this.
This is probably not a popular opinion but I bought this in a sleepy haze last night and I'm not loving the sound. It doesn't sound as analog to me as the other two Moog synth apps. It sounds very digital to me. I'm not asking for a refund, I'll program my own patches to see how I feel then, but I don't foresee using this in a track.
I’m in a sleepy haze right now. Please send help and feedback!
I’m interested in knowing what factors that you have based your analog vs digital assessment on?
Most people are getting an exact opposite vibe from this so far…so it makes your statement interesting to me.
I mean there are people who can pick analog from digital in some cases, but that’s a lower number than you would think in a blind listening test. It was like the time people were stating they could pick the real ssl mixer from the one in reason, this is after never using the real deal, maybe never seeing it in person….then during the blind test it became apparent it was false and almost nobody could get the examples correct. It was apparent guessing.
I have hardware analog and hardware digital synths in my collection…and my favorite of all of them is the most digital synth I’ve ever heard(in a dreamy good way)…Waldorf Iridium. Nothing can beat the Iridium for sound design in my opinion, but that is my opinion.
At the end of the day…
What I am really saying is…. Listeners can NOT tell the difference, and do not care one bit about sound quality at all.
That’s why people are sampling from YouTube audio, buying LoFi albums, buying plugs to destroy the sound quality, using compressed formats to play music at home or in the car….nobody cares…maybe you do, and that is fine. I can understand a personal preference…but it’s just like saying I hate onions…guess you won’t be eating anywhere because onions are almost in everything.
agreed.
which bit of it sounds "digital" i don't know. and obviously all moog plugins can only be digital. yet the model d plugin for example had that overloaded warm distortion thing which made it an easy goto for THAT sound. i love this for embracing some new functionality to go around that virtual analog moog thing which is still the core. when i want a certain kind of classic analog bass i will probably use this as it has more flexibility, and i have all the moog plugs (and some other emulations of the bygone decades like tal uno lx which is less hefty but still gets you a certain late 70s funkiness). as someone who when i moved to software used the monark on a ton of gigs and a ton of records, which was before moog did their own plugin and before uad also had a model d, i think i'm happy to use this instead, for that type of bass.
but i'm completely with you. take a simple square wave in practically any soft synth at all, filter it somewhat to move between sine and square, you're almost ready to use it on your next hit record, and with the right mix, people will ask what bass synth is that.
of course unless it's blind tested we're all just huffing and puffing hot air.
Yeah, I'm not getting into an analog vs. digital debate. I own four analog synths (two Moogs, OB-6, Studio Electronics) and a Nord VA as well as a handful of virtual synths on the iPad and laptop. I like them all. This one, not so much.
I don't assign any weight to the very old "listeners can not tell the difference" argument. I'm not making music for imaginary listeners, I want to enjoy the sonics myself. Also, I like onions.
What about pizza? Pineapple or no?
Sounds kind of fizzy to me. Seems like sfx might be where it really excels.
haha yes pineapple with italian sausage. But pepperoni is my favorite. Real pepperoni, not digital pepperoni, although I know most eaters can't taste the difference. How about you? Pineapple?
Pineapple on pizza... hmm... I think we may have found the problem.
What does it matter if it’s “necessary”? It sounds different, has a different UI and workflow, different and unique features of its own, and is a comply different app in general. Don’t think anyone needs to convince anyone to buy anything. Maybe it’s just not for you.
Sweet thanks, I’ll check that out! I need to catch up on Eric Andre on Max anyway 😆
Have you watched Joel Haver on YouTube? They do lots of improv scenes and will then animate them after. Usually to very hilarious results.
I agree with your point I’m just gonna add that I despise onions and still manage to eat just fine but it’s not easy 😂
Been away from Ipad music making for a while. Just bought a new Ipad Air a little while ago, so have been buying a few new apps.
I like this app, but I'm back feeling that 'everything is new again' feeling!
I love this ios music making vibe of £15 for a fun Moog app. I'm just about to spend £45 on a decksaver for a new piece of hardware, that puts it into perspective for me lol.
Wow, I love the sound of this, it’s a very inspiring thing, lots to tweak and discover. Just preset hopping for now but it definitely has a very high sonic quality. It’s my first Moog synth, already a huge fan of the MoogerFoogers.
I’ve no doubt that the synth sounds great but i have lots of great sounding synths. The thing which intrigues me about Mariana is the interconnectivity with the Moogerfoogers.
To those of you who have both, do you now feel that the Moogerfoogers are incomplete without Mariana and vice versa? Would you go that far? Does the connectivity offer that much?
I have both but haven't used them together. Mariana sounds fantastic, like Slush I've basically only explored presets so far - there are so many and they are so good. I'm sure it will combine well with the moogerfoogers, but I definitely wouldn't say either is incomplete without the others.
It’s a nice addition being able to use the CV modulation options of both Mariana and the Moogerfoogers. You could f.e. in AUM run Mariana through FreqBox and use the output frequency to modulate Mariana’s filter. You need to run both AU’s in a host like AUM being able to use it though.
It would be even more nice if you could place the Moogerfoogers between the oscillator and filter. What I miss is the ability to give synth one and two a separate output in AUM, also being able to FM/Cross modulate the synths would be nice.
Thanks for that feedback @Gavinski and @Bietfriek, really helpful. Cheers.
Doug Sound Test Room does a brief demo at the start of this video
The fact that it doesn’t sound like Models D and 15 might even be a recommendation to those of us who have the former! (Of the previous Moog synths my favourite by a country mile is Animoog 2)
After messing around with Mariana for a while I'm kinda surprised that there seems to be no way to use the oscillators as 'modulation sources' (like one oscillator from the 'other' synth).
So no way to do the 'Model D' thing and use OSC3 for audio-rate modulation...
The LFO speed can be scared up past 50Hz by using keyboard-tracking and the 'scale' function.
Only LFO's, Envelopes etc. can be used as CV outputs, no Note CV or Gate CV out, as far as I know oscillators should also qualify as CV signals?
Also I do find it a quite weird omission that there's no Arpeggiator/Step-Sequencer built-in.
Over all it's a nice synth and relatively straight forward to tweak.
Cheers!
This is way much more than just "bass" synth in my opinion.. has much more modulation capabilities than Dagger. Don't getme wrong, i LOVE Dagger. It's great synth. Mariana is great too and it's different kind of beast.
Also, let's face truth. You can't have enough synths. It's just lying to yourself that you have enought.
finally, the truth!
I feel the same way about these features. Hope they choose to update with with these additions!
For me, the oddest omission is the keyboard in the AUv3. All the other Moog software synths have one. And yes, there’s KB-1 etc, but the one in the standalone version is kind of nice, and as it’s there anyway it’d be good if it showed in the plugin.
Yeah that's genuinely an extremely annoying omission. Even if not included in the instrument auv3, it seems there should really be a dedicated midi auv3 keyboard for it.
Mariana, lowtone, king of bass, plenty of bass synths this year and people here seem to buy them all. To those who have them all, which one is the best?
Yeah I hope they add the keyboard to the AUv3 too, was a bit disappointed it's not there yet. But this app is at 1.0.0 so maybe, I'm guessing, they decided to get this out before christmas and it just didn't make v1.0
I'm glad I didn't buy any other bass synths this year or for ages in fact, my app spending is much more controlled/focused now and nothing about those other apps appealed to me. Moog always tend to push the technology of the platform and the CV interactivity between the Foogers and this really make a difference to the experience. You can really push the modulation possibilities to give very expansive sound design beyond just bass lines etc.