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Thanks to explain me. iPhone music is something new for me so interesting to know more even if for practical reasons , my age , fingers and eyes I can’t do that.
I didn’t know even Model 15 is on IPhone , my god it is for me so painful to use it even on an IPad screen. Model 15 is a very big GUI and was made for educational purposes first according to Moog.
Moog is under a new management as you know so nobody know what are their plan. To outsource hardware and software? I hope no as a Moog lover.
Yeah we’ll see what happens. I’m shocked we’ve had such an incredible app like Mariana out of the blue under the current circumstances tbh.
Your hunch is right though - iPhone sales are shown to be far lower than iPad sales, to the point that a lot of devs don’t/have stopped bothering to support it. I like to remind them that just because someone buys on iPad, doesn’t mean they don’t use on iPhone too. I do think I’m in a fairly small minority though - definitely not enough of us to make a decent business case.
Isn’t the idea of a fully airdroppable powerhouse production studio in your pocket alluring though? 😉
Surely no reason to be shocked? Mariana will presumably have been in development long before the current circumstances.
I’ve read reviews on Mariana, talking about it as the ‘first release from Moog under inmusic’ almost implying inmusic will have played a significant role in it. Technically, chronologically, it is the first release but it surely can’t be taken as any sort of indicator of the direction of travel Moog will take under inmusic - it’s what will be developed from scratch going forward which will tell us that.
We had the same thinking , I was very surprised too to have a new major Moog synth under such circumstances but before under the same management we got the full Moog Fx Bundle but not a new synth.
For young people I understand perfectly how it can be powerful to start on iPhone and to finish on an IPad or even desktop. For Middle Ages and older not easy to do but for younger it is more a natural way.
Seems to me that Apple focus more and more on the high end desktop pro market and incredibly powerful new IPad even affordable IPad Air to come in 2024. Music audio is just a niche market compared to video and graphics or 3D for Apple.
Now I can’t see what to propose really more than what you get in an IPhone 15 ?
Smartphone innovation so new sales is at an end or pause even not sure that smartphones so iPhone will still exist in in the future in the next 5 to 10 years coming except for older people a bit like the one using basic Nokia style just to make a call or send sms.
10 years time is like 100 years in actual tech.
You are right , certainly in the pipeline even before the new management and the new management was very keen to release it. And it is too early to know as I told the future of Moog as a hardware or software maker. But for this synth this is a Moog quality.
If 250 Hz LFO from 103S is not enough for 😎, then try with VCO from 107S, it starts at 25 Hz. Just keep ENV and FM at zero and switch sync to off.
I know, the tricky part is to send Note/Keyboard CV to both of them from Mariana
Being able to 'side-chain pipe-in' audio as a modulation source would be pretty neat too.
Agree to your interesting point you have a great level in audio seems to me
I appreciate your audio knowledge. Hope new updates in Mariana from Moog
Sounds rubbish. Honestly, given how good the pedals are, this thing stinks. Reminds me of vsts from 15 or 20 years back. Very plastic, no weight, the resonance is of course very polite because it’s a moot, the effects are decidedly average.
Great, great synth. But very sensitive dials, jumps quickly to the modulation menu when tweaking
Oh, darn, it was a failed attempt to make you happy! 😅
Is there a particular reason why you want a Mariana internal note / keyboard CV to control anything? You can always insert the FAC Envolver and use the signal from the Mariana to MIDI modulate whatever is needed. Or use the dRambo keyboard to send MIDI to Mariana and CV to something else.
No worries
What I was after was to do 'Analog FM' (On a Moog Model D the 3rd oscillator can be used as a modulation source).
In order to keep the FM somewhat in tune the keyboard CV from Mariana could have been handy to control the frequency of the 'Mooger Foogers'.
The AU lacks the standalone’s kb? That makes no sense. The Animoog kb is the best thing about the moog apps.
It’s a horrible omission, no question. Probably a good thing for people to request - if enough people express their frustration at that omission, it might get added in an update.
I noticed the standalone kb is also missing the glide button. Did they move that somewhere else? That was a mistake too.
Ah, yes, you are right! It would be a phenomenal feature, but they need to implement an internal keyboard in AUv3.
There are 2 synths in one in Mariana, so there are also 2 Glide knobs, 1 in each synth engine, so you can set separate amounts for each, so that is not a problem at all, it’s better that way, in this case
Finally jumped on this after being on the fence for a while. Stellar piece of software. Just as I thought I was done getting new apps this year 💀
I wholeheartedly agree with @Gavinski and others re: built-in keyboard. It’s such an expressive play surface that will be very tricky to replicate in other hosts. There’s also no recording function in the standalone app to get around it….
I’m not suggesting it’s an acceptable workaround because it’s not at all practical, but you can set it up to use the keyboard in the standalone as the MIDI source to control the AU version in your host!
Love this synth, but it sends my ipad pro 2017 to the limit, so it's more suited to newer devices....
Just came here to say that I think Moog was especially generous with the factory presets. Well I create my own patches, I like demoing presets to see what a synth is capable of.
Agreed. I may even end up using some of the factory presets because they’re so good. Maybe with a few minor tweaks.
At least some of them were done by Lisa Bella Donna (according to her IG) hence the quality.
engine, Bob Lives! A krellish nirvana attained with nerdy precision, imo sonic superiority in the space isn't clear, much developers work i appreciate and actually bought 😂 to suppose satire is accurate hyperbole that is apparently a weapon of moog mass production 😉
*appreciated your videos are A very insightful bunch of work, in great courses can students grow wiser.
Yeah some nice presets in there
https://youtube.com/watch?v=qo3f4KnXIH4
jade starr has done a tutorial. they’re definitely my favorite youtuber tutorialists(is that a word?)
Ah! She’s excellent! I know she’s worked with Moog a fair bit so that definitely makes sense.
Will Moog Mariana do C64-Style Chip Arpeggios?
Yes but it's quite tricky to keep them in tune (~8% per semitone) and no way on the iPad (unless using a mouse?) to type in LFO speed manually.
More often than not when I try to modulate a dial it jumps to the modulation section, is it me? As far as I know there’s nothing wrong with my fingers..