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“KEBARP” new arp. by Cem Olcay

edited March 21 in App Development

Read about it on fb group by ninobeatz. Always excited for new arps apps.
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  • cool any release dates yet?

  • don't know

  • Hopefully it doesn't have the pattern switching issues that patternbud and polybud have....they miss the first note of the pattern when they receive midi cc.

  • At what point did Alan Robert Pearlman's initials for his company (ARP Instruments) become a generic term to refer to a sequencing synth?

  • @NeuM said:
    At what point did Alan Robert Pearlman's initials for his company (ARP Instruments) become a generic term to refer to a sequencing synth?

    “Arp” is just an abbreviation of arpeggio. The capitalisation is often wrong is apps. Screen real estate often forces abbreviations.

    But arp’s now have variations that might stretch the original definition… not sure about that.

  • edited March 21

    @McD said:

    @NeuM said:
    At what point did Alan Robert Pearlman's initials for his company (ARP Instruments) become a generic term to refer to a sequencing synth?

    “Arp” is just an abbreviation of arpeggio. The capitalisation is often wrong is apps. Screen real estate often forces abbreviations.

    But arp’s now have variations that might stretch the original definition… not sure about that.

    I could be mistaken, but I don't recall any arpeggiating synthesizers being referred to as "arps" prior to ARP Instruments. Do you know of any documentation supporting that explanation? My impression has always been that an ARP synthesizer became known very generically due to common use (same way Kleenex or Escalator became known generically, even though they are both trademarked names).

  • This isn’t a synth though is it? Looks like a midi arpeggiator to me

  • wimwim
    edited March 21

    The name only makes me think of someone barfing. Seriously.

  • @wim said:
    The name only makes me think of someone barfing. Seriously.

    LOL

  • edited March 21

    @NeuM said:
    I could be mistaken, but I don't recall any arpeggiating synthesizers being referred to as "arps" prior to ARP Instruments…

    What ARP synths even have arpeggiators though, for this to be the source of the current usage of “arp”?

    Neither of their most famous ones, the Odyssey nor the 2600, had one.
    Did they make anything with an arp or sequencer, outside of some modules for the 2500?

    “Arp” seems like a pretty natural English abbreviation of “arpeggio/arpeggiator”, and I’ve definitely heard non-synth musical types use the term.

  • @pricklyrobot said:

    @NeuM said:
    I could be mistaken, but I don't recall any arpeggiating synthesizers being referred to as "arps" prior to ARP Instruments…

    What ARP synths even have arpeggiators though, for this to be the source of the current usage of “arp”?

    Neither of their most famous ones, the Odyssey nor the 2600, had one.
    Did they make anything with an arp or sequencer, outside of some modules for the 2500?

    “Arp” seems like a pretty natural English abbreviation of “arpeggio/arpeggiator”, and I’ve definitely heard non-synth musical types use the term.

    Yeah - I don’t see any evidence that it has any relation to ARP the company or synths. Pretty sure it’s just a short version of ‘arpeggiator’ in the same way that ‘synth’ is a short version of ‘synthesizer’. If anything, Alan Pearlman may have decided to use his initials because of the association with arpeggiators!

  • Looks interesting..

  • @wim said:
    The name only makes me think of someone barfing. Seriously.

    What happens after you eat some bad doner? Kebarp!

  • @Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredr said:

    @wim said:
    The name only makes me think of someone barfing. Seriously.

    What happens after you eat some bad doner? Kebarp!

    LOL!

  • wimwim
    edited March 21

    Seriously though, I hope @cem_olcay reads this before releasing the app. It's a terrible name.
    Or maybe not. It does grab attention.

  • Acronyms can get “overloaded” with meanings:

    Internet Protocol nerds will be aware of the “ Address Resolution Protocol (ARP) and Reverse ARP (RARP). It’s an essential step to convert a hostname into a usable IP address.

    But, like Arpeggiator style synths, it was spec’ed after Alan Robert Pearlman starts ARP Instruments in 1969. I always assumed ARP was a late player in the synth marketplace but Roland’s Jupiter-4 with a built in arpeggiator arrived in 1978.

  • Hmm - Keb Mo might feel your infringing on his turf here 🤔 Looking forward to see what this can do!

  • @wim said:
    Seriously though, I hope @cem_olcay reads this before releasing the app. It's a terrible name.
    Or maybe not. It does grab attention.

    It's working in terms of getting attention for sure, given how much chatter it's generating here, but I agree that it really reminds me of kebab and barfing... Burping too

  • @Gavinski said:

    @wim said:
    Seriously though, I hope @cem_olcay reads this before releasing the app. It's a terrible name.
    Or maybe not. It does grab attention.

    It's working in terms of getting attention for sure, given how much chatter it's generating here, but I agree that it really reminds me of kebab and barfing... Burping too

    Could make for some interesting icon design. 🤔

  • @wim said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @wim said:
    Seriously though, I hope @cem_olcay reads this before releasing the app. It's a terrible name.
    Or maybe not. It does grab attention.

    It's working in terms of getting attention for sure, given how much chatter it's generating here, but I agree that it really reminds me of kebab and barfing... Burping too

    Could make for some interesting icon design. 🤔

    The icon is in the video already and appears to be a skewer:)

  • It is kinda different arp+seq app. Not a trad arp because it’s not arping the chord notes you are playing like ArpBud, but it sequences the notes on the grid for a “single” note you are playing.

    The grid, or the “grill” as I like to call (hence the name) has numbers instead of notes like …, -3, -2, -1, 0, 1, 2 …
    0 represents the note you are playing on your MIDI keyboard. +1 represents the next note in the scale.
    So, 0 would be C, +1 would be D and -1 would be B if you are playing the C note in the major scale.

    It’s a super quick arp app, great for live performing and quickly creating arps. Designed for spending minimum amount of time on the app and gaining the maximum performance!

    I haven’t finished implementing the grid UI though. I’ll roll out a beta as soon as I’m comfortable with it. Can’t wait to hear your thoughts.

  • Sounds great this cross arp/seq functionality! look fwd to it!> @cem_olcay said:

    It is kinda different arp+seq app. Not a trad arp because it’s not arping the chord notes you are playing like ArpBud, but it sequences the notes on the grid for a “single” note you are playing.

    The grid, or the “grill” as I like to call (hence the name) has numbers instead of notes like …, -3, -2, -1, 0, 1, 2 …
    0 represents the note you are playing on your MIDI keyboard. +1 represents the next note in the scale.
    So, 0 would be C, +1 would be D and -1 would be B if you are playing the C note in the major scale.

    It’s a super quick arp app, great for live performing and quickly creating arps. Designed for spending minimum amount of time on the app and gaining the maximum performance!

    I haven’t finished implementing the grid UI though. I’ll roll out a beta as soon as I’m comfortable with it. Can’t wait to hear your thoughts.

  • @cem_olcay said:
    It is kinda different arp+seq app. Not a trad arp because it’s not arping the chord notes you are playing like ArpBud, but it sequences the notes on the grid for a “single” note you are playing.

    The grid, or the “grill” as I like to call (hence the name) has numbers instead of notes like …, -3, -2, -1, 0, 1, 2 …
    0 represents the note you are playing on your MIDI keyboard. +1 represents the next note in the scale.
    So, 0 would be C, +1 would be D and -1 would be B if you are playing the C note in the major scale.

    It’s a super quick arp app, great for live performing and quickly creating arps. Designed for spending minimum amount of time on the app and gaining the maximum performance!

    I haven’t finished implementing the grid UI though. I’ll roll out a beta as soon as I’m comfortable with it. Can’t wait to hear your thoughts.

    Nice concept. Please implement user-defined scales.

  • @Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredr said:

    @cem_olcay said:
    It is kinda different arp+seq app. Not a trad arp because it’s not arping the chord notes you are playing like ArpBud, but it sequences the notes on the grid for a “single” note you are playing.

    The grid, or the “grill” as I like to call (hence the name) has numbers instead of notes like …, -3, -2, -1, 0, 1, 2 …
    0 represents the note you are playing on your MIDI keyboard. +1 represents the next note in the scale.
    So, 0 would be C, +1 would be D and -1 would be B if you are playing the C note in the major scale.

    It’s a super quick arp app, great for live performing and quickly creating arps. Designed for spending minimum amount of time on the app and gaining the maximum performance!

    I haven’t finished implementing the grid UI though. I’ll roll out a beta as soon as I’m comfortable with it. Can’t wait to hear your thoughts.

    Nice concept. Please implement user-defined scales.

    Yep, like all my others apps, it’ll be compatible with the custom scales made in ScaleBud 2.

  • @cem_olcay so closer to StepPolyArp than “traditional” because you can transpose notes or add notes based on your input?

  • @audiblevideo said:
    @cem_olcay so closer to StepPolyArp than “traditional” because you can transpose notes or add notes based on your input?

    It’s closer to steppolyarp. The input transpose the notes. It also has a neat new “pattern chaining” feature that you can create bunch of new patterns, slightly modify them and chain them together. Btw when you create a new pattern, it automatically copies the current one, so the modification is way more easier.

  • The beta version is ready. Already sent the invitation to some people. Let me know if you’d like to try.

  • This thing is pretty crazy if music creation is meant to be instant fun this is it ! Will sit great in a midi AU chain.

  • edited March 26

    looking fwd for it!

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