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That’s my experience too
Yeah, I like this idea. Can work on a “manual advance” feature for ShiftBud.
@cem_olcay I am very much looking forward to Kebarp. Another addition to your “sequencer ecosystem”. I just noticed that when you search for a particular scale in Melody Bud and Auto Bass, the search is case sensitive. It made me think that there are no “pentatonic” scales available. This is very inconvenient, specially as I find the scale naming and ordering in the list confusing. I haven’t checked other “buds”, but would highly recommend a case insensitive search in all programs.
This would be a very strong addition to any of your sequencing apps. It completely transform Melodybud, Stepbud, and Polybud so you could program a melody thrn use other midi sequencers or the keyboard to jam on the rhythm.
This doesn’t arp chords as far as I can tell, it just turns single notes into arpeggios. If you play a chord it will just use one of the notes in the chord as the basis for its arp, everything will be relative to the last note pressed at any given time. If you remove that last note while others are still held down it will use the next-to-last-played note as the root, is that right Cem? Yeah probably worth making this a bit clearer in the in-app tutorial maybe?
Yeah, what all I mean is that if I am in A Minor and just hold an A key with the scale set to minor, things will be in key but if I play a D I will out of key notes. That just means that the locking to scale feature helps you stay in key/scale if you play the root of your key, but anything after that will play out of key/scale notes. This is in contrast to something like Steppolyarp, which locks all of the notes in a pattern to key/sxaleso you can play any keyboard note and know that the intervals will only play notes the "right" notes.
Since playing notes other than the tonic will result in out of key/scale notes for a given pattern, unless I'm missing something, I've been mostly playing with Kebarp latched to the root of my key and then jamming out by drawing different patterns as the sequencer/arp runs.
Yeah, I get what you're saying now and it definitely does sound like something that should be there, at least as an option. Indeed using Rozeta Scaler or similar on the output is a workaround but it would be better to have a master output quantizer built in to the app, no? @cem_olcay
Also Cem, seems there is no tick left on the scale list after you select a scale, so if you go back to the app after some time away you might forget which scale you had selected
Yeah, Scalar is a great solution. The issue there is one of how precise you can be since Scalar will round the "wrong" note up or down... That means sometimes the pattern might look like you have two different intervals next to each other (2 and 3, for example) chosen, but both might play the same note since one (2) is out of scale and just gets rounded to the same (3).
Implementing a lock to key/scale mode in an app like this might mean essentially doing the same thing, just in the app.
Another problem with Rozeta Scaler, like many of Bram’s older apps, is that it doesn’t have its own preset system. In AUM if you are playing an onscreen keyboard to send notes into kebarp, and try to change presets in Scaler using AUM’s internal preset system, at certain points the audio will cut out. This means that you can’t rely on Rozeta Scaler in situations where you have to change presets. And yet you have to change presets in Rozeta Scaler if you want to change both key and scale immediately with one finger. You also can’t always select a scale and key simultaneously in Scaler as the scales list sometimes needs scrolling. It’s a bit messy alright.
Would still also love to see kebarp respond to multi touch gestures. The lack of these means you can’t drag two notes at the same time, which limits performance possibilities somewhat. Would it be hard to add that Cem?
Yes, that's how it's work.
I wasn't aware of that problem, thanks for the report, will fix it!
It shouldn't be that hard, I tried but it wasn't great. I might try again after the release.
This new app looks interesting @cem_olcay. I’ll purchase when it releases.
I've been thinking about how Keparp works functionally from a music standpoint and have a couple of observations. Since it takes a single note and plays back a sequence of notes based on a linear pattern of intervals, it will both be similar to and different from a typical arp pattern. If you give it a single note G, for example, it will play the contour of the pattern that has been "drawn" in based on the note G Edit - To clarify, only notes in the key/scale selected can be chosen. If you give it an A, it will play the same pattern but one whole step up. So it will retain the "sound" of whatever scale or mode or whatever you want to call it, but move it around. If the shape of the contour has a Lydian sound, it will continue to sound Lydian if you let it cycle through enough notes (in the pattern). If it has a blues sound, the same, and so forth. You can use the retrigger option (which forces it to start over when the note input changes) and the length of the contour to determine how far it gets into the pattern. One of the things that makes music interesting is when elements of different scales are incorporated into the song, but in a way that connects them smoothly and which carries the listener along. A typical arp function can produce this effect by feeding it appropriate chord sequences. Kebarp operates differently, so the key to making it sound good is to take advantage of those differences. I've found a few interesting ways to use it, and it's great fun. Using BrainBud and switching patterns using the pattern chaining (and automation) is really helping, but I know that the folks here and elsewhere will l come up with completely unexpected and innovative ways to use it and incorporate it into projects, so looking forward to seeing what happens!
**Edited for clarity, corrections
The pattern remains the same, but if you are in C Lydian and playing a C in Kebarp with the Lydian scale turned on, all the notes will be in C Lydian. But as soon as you hit a D note, everything will be in D Lydian and will play notes outside your key/scale. Are you using different notes as the root in Kebarp with compositions or jams that switch key or just the same key? And if it's just the single key, how are you managing how a Kebarp will change its key based on the note input rather than staying locked into a key/scale?
I've gotten around this by using Rozeta Scaler but it means that because Scaler will round a note value up or down if the original input is out of key/scale, that sometimes what looks like different intervals in Kebarp will play the same interval (e.g. If there's a 2 and 3 in a pentatonic minor scale, Scaler will round the 2 to a 3 and so even though your pattern shows different scale degrees, what's played is two 3s). Not sure if I'm making sense as I type this lol
I believe I'm following you - let me know 😊. I'm using a combination of techniques. I'll make a few patterns that suit a certain scale, and try to bring out the character in the scale by emphasizing certain notes, and then use some automation or manually change the key and scale in BrainBud periodically. By feeding it a few long notes from another app, it establishes a certain tonality, and it can then move up and down in that same tonality, and then I'll change the pattern up but leave it in the same key/scale, then after a bit, change the key scale, but keep the incoming notes the same. I also like to use RhythmBud a little bit to change up the feel as well, and change patterns in there, mainly composed of longer rhythm patterns, 1/2, whole and a few 1/4 but not too much rapid variation. Once the app is out and other people get their demos out, I'll put one of my own out there, if I can find make something a bit different and of interest.
When you play a note on your keyboard, it’ll be locked in that key. All the notes on the grid will be in the scale of that key. If you don’t want to change the key, then just dont play another note on your MIDI keyboard. It’s so simple and quick this way. Just add new patterns or edit the current one just by dragging your finger.
The app will be released in a few hours btw. At the midnight UK time.
https://apps.apple.com/us/app/kebarp-auv3-midi-arpeggiator/id6479562640
Thanks Cem ! Loving it!
The app is out! Can’t wait to hear your comments.
https://apps.apple.com/us/app/kebarp-auv3-midi-arpeggiator/id6479562640
http://keybudapp.com/kebarp
Instabuy and love at first sight. @cem_olcay Congratulations. I think this is one of the best apps in your collection. At least for a sequencer lover like myself. The scalable UI is great when you want to create a “Döner Bude” by running several instances in parallel.
And I appreciate developers who care about people who still use older devices: Kebarp still runs on iOS 12.0.
A few ideas:
Thanks 🙏 Yes, I fixed the scale search, will release an update soon. Thanks for the ideas, a permanent step indicator would be nice.
@cem_olcay one more suggestion: I noticed that the selected scale is nowhere indicated. And whenever you select the "Scale" menu, it is always at the start of the scale list. It would be good to have an indicator for the scale. Either somewhere on the UI, or by just putting the selected scale in focus of the scale menu.
Yes, @Gavinski also raised that earlier, I'll add an indicator to the selected scale as well and release an update soon.
And also update the remaining 11 bud apps as well 😳
@cem_olcay
Could we also get a clearer grid division, it's getting tricky to see where a new bar start when using the full 64. Something like this maybe?
Good idea. Would also be good to be able to zoom in more when there are a lot of steps, eg when there are 64 steps, as the steps get pretty narrow
Loving it! @cem_olcay, but I just noticed that I can't go beyond 4 patterns. The + sign gets covered or doesn't show. I tried it several times in case it was a momentary glitch but it seems stuck there.
nevermind - @Gavinski solved this for me.
Dam it @cem_olcay stop creating all these awesome midi apps i have to buy. 😝 #3 in US AppStore Paid Music Apps! Congrats on the new release.
I do really feel that an undo/redo function for this would be almost invaluable as part of live performance, really feel the lack of it!