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iM1 AUV3 is live.

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  • So in IOS GarageBand…

    Good news and bad news…

    First the bad news…it doesn’t remember presets at all. Once the song is closed out it goes back to default when you go back in . Worse …when you merge tracks in GarageBand, it IMMEDIATELY goes to a different sound

    The good news? I can sample the individual instruments in SampleWiz 2 as a work around until the problem is fixed

  • @Fear2Stop said:
    So in IOS GarageBand…

    Good news and bad news…

    First the bad news…it doesn’t remember presets at all. Once the song is closed out it goes back to default when you go back in . Worse …when you merge tracks in GarageBand, it IMMEDIATELY goes to a different sound

    The good news? I can sample the individual instruments in SampleWiz 2 as a work around until the problem is fixed

    Are you double tapping the preset name when you change it?

  • @FordTimeLord said:

    @Fear2Stop said:
    So in IOS GarageBand…

    Good news and bad news…

    First the bad news…it doesn’t remember presets at all. Once the song is closed out it goes back to default when you go back in . Worse …when you merge tracks in GarageBand, it IMMEDIATELY goes to a different sound

    The good news? I can sample the individual instruments in SampleWiz 2 as a work around until the problem is fixed

    Are you double tapping the preset name when you change it?

    Ohh…you double tap the name in the preset list… ok now it works 😇 guess doing that saves it into memory

  • @Fear2Stop said:

    @FordTimeLord said:

    @Fear2Stop said:
    So in IOS GarageBand…

    Good news and bad news…

    First the bad news…it doesn’t remember presets at all. Once the song is closed out it goes back to default when you go back in . Worse …when you merge tracks in GarageBand, it IMMEDIATELY goes to a different sound

    The good news? I can sample the individual instruments in SampleWiz 2 as a work around until the problem is fixed

    Are you double tapping the preset name when you change it?

    Ohh…you double tap the name in the preset list… ok now it works 😇 guess doing that saves it into memory

    Nice one! I think they handle it this way so you can preview sounds without losing your previous settings. It’s not at all obvious though :).

  • As everybody already knows I did a video about iM1's DWGS waves, many many many years ago

  • I guess I’m not old enough to watch this video. I do remember and have enjoyed the WTFDTKD series.

  • I wish iM1 going AUv3 would wake up IKMultimedia to do the same with iGrand, iLectric, and Sampletank.

  • @NoiseHorse said:
    I wish iM1 going AUv3 would wake up IKMultimedia to do the same with iGrand, iLectric, and Sampletank.

    iGrand, no, iLectric, no, Sampletank v3, YES!

    We don’t need iGrand and iLectric - there’s sooo much better present today on iOS (my favorite Pianoteq v8)…

  • edited April 4

    @NoiseHorse said:
    I wish iM1 going AUv3 would wake up IKMultimedia to do the same with iGrand, iLectric, and Sampletank.

    I’d prefer it if they woke up Roland.

  • At least Korg is improving their iOS versions - something they took years to do on desktop and half-assed it when they did.

  • M1 is my favorite rompler on iOS and being able to do full sound design to 3rd party fx and use MIDI tools all in one DAW is finally here. I think I might cry 🥲.

    At one point, I only used Darwin for arranging all my tracks and only replaced a piano here or there, if needed. I’ll probably compose the next 20 or so tracks just using the M1 now.

  • Also, to think that this much requested update comes after that absolute bollocks half-assed VR app nobody asked for is crazy.

  • @KirbyMumbo said:
    M1 is my favorite rompler on iOS and being able to do full sound design to 3rd party fx and use MIDI tools all in one DAW is finally here. I think I might cry 🥲.

    At one point, I only used Darwin for arranging all my tracks and only replaced a piano here or there, if needed. I’ll probably compose the next 20 or so tracks just using the M1 now.

    It’s a rompler??

  • @gregsmith said:

    @KirbyMumbo said:
    M1 is my favorite rompler on iOS and being able to do full sound design to 3rd party fx and use MIDI tools all in one DAW is finally here. I think I might cry 🥲.

    At one point, I only used Darwin for arranging all my tracks and only replaced a piano here or there, if needed. I’ll probably compose the next 20 or so tracks just using the M1 now.

    It’s a rompler??

    The most successful one too! ;)

  • @Luxthor said:

    @gregsmith said:

    @KirbyMumbo said:
    M1 is my favorite rompler on iOS and being able to do full sound design to 3rd party fx and use MIDI tools all in one DAW is finally here. I think I might cry 🥲.

    At one point, I only used Darwin for arranging all my tracks and only replaced a piano here or there, if needed. I’ll probably compose the next 20 or so tracks just using the M1 now.

    It’s a rompler??

    The most successful one too! ;)

    Rompler, perhaps, but not 100% ?

    If so, maybe the most advanced rompler we have on iOS - huge amount of controls to shape the sounds on iM1 - fuckin’ great!

  • edited April 4

    @HolyMoses said:

    @Luxthor said:

    @gregsmith said:

    @KirbyMumbo said:
    M1 is my favorite rompler on iOS and being able to do full sound design to 3rd party fx and use MIDI tools all in one DAW is finally here. I think I might cry 🥲.

    At one point, I only used Darwin for arranging all my tracks and only replaced a piano here or there, if needed. I’ll probably compose the next 20 or so tracks just using the M1 now.

    It’s a rompler??

    The most successful one too! ;)

    Rompler, perhaps, but not 100% ?

    If so, maybe the most advanced rompler we have on iOS - huge amount of controls to shape the sounds on iM1 - fuckin’ great!

    Interesting! I don’t own it but would have thought it’s a ‘proper’ synth

  • @gregsmith said:

    @HolyMoses said:

    @Luxthor said:

    @gregsmith said:

    @KirbyMumbo said:
    M1 is my favorite rompler on iOS and being able to do full sound design to 3rd party fx and use MIDI tools all in one DAW is finally here. I think I might cry 🥲.

    At one point, I only used Darwin for arranging all my tracks and only replaced a piano here or there, if needed. I’ll probably compose the next 20 or so tracks just using the M1 now.

    It’s a rompler??

    The most successful one too! ;)

    Rompler, perhaps, but not 100% ?

    If so, maybe the most advanced rompler we have on iOS - huge amount of controls to shape the sounds on iM1 - fuckin’ great!

    Interesting! I don’t own it but would have thought it’s a ‘proper’ synth

    The original Korg M1 was also a rompler synth, but, with lots of shaping tools onboard…
    I have the original M1 in my synth collection, and, to my ears iM1 sounds better than the original!

    Original there was just 4MB of samples that was used to build up all the fantastic sounds on M1…

    https://www.vintagesynth.com/korg/m1

  • The original M1 wasn’t easy to program. Most people probably used it as though it were just a ROMpler.

  • @Slam_Cut said:
    The original M1 wasn’t easy to program. Most people probably used it as though it were just a ROMpler.

    The same goes for my Roland D-50…
    On D50 you at least could buy the addon PG-1000 that made it much easier to control D-50…

    Wished Korg had something similar…

    https://www.vintagesynth.com/sites/default/files/inline-images/capture-20171013-142104.jpg

  • @HolyMoses said:

    @gregsmith said:

    @HolyMoses said:

    @Luxthor said:

    @gregsmith said:

    @KirbyMumbo said:
    M1 is my favorite rompler on iOS and being able to do full sound design to 3rd party fx and use MIDI tools all in one DAW is finally here. I think I might cry 🥲.

    At one point, I only used Darwin for arranging all my tracks and only replaced a piano here or there, if needed. I’ll probably compose the next 20 or so tracks just using the M1 now.

    It’s a rompler??

    The most successful one too! ;)

    Rompler, perhaps, but not 100% ?

    If so, maybe the most advanced rompler we have on iOS - huge amount of controls to shape the sounds on iM1 - fuckin’ great!

    Interesting! I don’t own it but would have thought it’s a ‘proper’ synth

    The original Korg M1 was also a rompler synth, but, with lots of shaping tools onboard…
    I have the original M1 in my synth collection, and, to my ears iM1 sounds better than the original!

    Original there was just 4MB of samples that was used to build up all the fantastic sounds on M1…

    https://www.vintagesynth.com/korg/m1

    Very interesting. Thanks.

  • It’s more than just a rompler – rompler implies that the sound is (in those days) in digital memory as a sample, maybe has looping for the sustain portion, maybe is multisampled up and down the keyboard to some degree, maybe both, but other than that you’re not going to be able to alter the nature of the sound much so that the bird telephone helicopter applause and the gunshot are always going to recognisably be that sound every time people hear your song

    The M1 along with a few others back in it’s contemporary day would go in a slightly different direction and use a synthesiser architecture that resembled a subtractive synth (but in the case of the M1 the digital filter wasn’t anything like an analogue filter back then in those days, it was mathematically correct but not really musically useful) – the ‘ROM’ aspect was purely a source of sound that took the place of the VCO on prior synths, and there was two such oscillators (followed by a mixer into a controllable filter (VDF) into a controllable amplitude module (VDA) and then onward into a pair of effects to hide all the faults and sell loads of synths, thus ensuring that a good supply of old obsolete analogue gear would be traded in to get that seductive lush chorus and reverb etc

    The M1 came from a day when software engineers were untamed, wild, uncouth, often uncivilised and certainly not likely to get invited to parties, thus they had absolutely no self control and simply poured every possible parameter that could be changed into the “user interface” allowing the user to be baffled at every step faced with an insane — literally insane — amount of parameters on every single page, none of which were prioritised, all of which seemed exactly as important as any other, most of which were a list, none of which were explained properly on the instrument itself, and consequently the cognitive overload is just so stupidly high as to be guaranteed every time

    So most people just played the presets, and really if they’re going to do that it may as well have just been a rompler, but it’s actually a fairly brave attempt at a proper actual synthesiser

  • edited April 4

    I got the feeling that somehow romplers are lesser synthesizers. What is the difference in the final output between a DCO-drawn waveform and an already-drawn “image” of the wave? 90% of the “true” synths people refer to use look-up tables to generate “custom” waves anyway.

    I’m just defending romplers here, particularly the legendary M1. 😅

  • edited April 4

    @u0421793 said:
    As everybody already knows I did a video about iM1's DWGS waves, many many many years ago

    Why you stopped doing those phenomenal videos, they are pure nerdgasm. ;) This particular one is a gold mine of information. Thank you so much! Subscribed!

  • @u0421793 said:
    As everybody already knows I did a video about iM1's DWGS waves, many many many years ago

    I have to go check this Out! The OG M1 was my first workstation and I used the hell out of it for years! Always regretted selling it to buy The Triton. Bought iM1 when it first came out

  • @Pxlhg said:
    Awesome and don't forget to alter that review you wrote about missing AuV3😂 ... and even if you didn't, encourage them anyway with some nice words...and some ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️

    Changed my comments and begged for iwavestation to be updated to AUv3 👍

  • Here Is A Video Explaining IM1 Desktop Plugin Is The Same In iOS
    Cheers

  • Korg, I love you.

  • @HolyMoses said:
    The same goes for my Roland D-50…
    On D50 you at least could buy the addon PG-1000 that made it much easier to control D-50…
    Wished Korg had something similar…

    Now that you mention it… programmers like that were pretty unique to Roland during the era of synths with minimal knobs & sliders and deep menu diving. I still have my PG-300 & PG-800 (and relevant hardware). Maybe if the M1 had a programmer it would have been thought of more as a synth than a ROMpler. Technically most ROMplers can be tweaked and new sounds generated, so I’m not sure where the defined line is between ROMpler and synth, but for me ease of use (lots of buttons, knobs, & sliders instead of menu diving) determines wether I use a piece of hardware or app as a ROMPler or actually tweak it like a synth.

  • @u0421793 said:
    It’s more than just a rompler – rompler implies that the sound is (in those days) in digital memory as a sample, maybe has looping for the sustain portion, maybe is multisampled up and down the keyboard to some degree, maybe both, but other than that you’re not going to be able to alter the nature of the sound much so that the bird telephone helicopter applause and the gunshot are always going to recognisably be that sound every time people hear your song

    The M1 along with a few others back in it’s contemporary day would go in a slightly different direction and use a synthesiser architecture that resembled a subtractive synth (but in the case of the M1 the digital filter wasn’t anything like an analogue filter back then in those days, it was mathematically correct but not really musically useful) – the ‘ROM’ aspect was purely a source of sound that took the place of the VCO on prior synths, and there was two such oscillators (followed by a mixer into a controllable filter (VDF) into a controllable amplitude module (VDA) and then onward into a pair of effects to hide all the faults and sell loads of synths, thus ensuring that a good supply of old obsolete analogue gear would be traded in to get that seductive lush chorus and reverb etc

    The M1 came from a day when software engineers were untamed, wild, uncouth, often uncivilised and certainly not likely to get invited to parties, thus they had absolutely no self control and simply poured every possible parameter that could be changed into the “user interface” allowing the user to be baffled at every step faced with an insane — literally insane — amount of parameters on every single page, none of which were prioritised, all of which seemed exactly as important as any other, most of which were a list, none of which were explained properly on the instrument itself, and consequently the cognitive overload is just so stupidly high as to be guaranteed every time

    So most people just played the presets, and really if they’re going to do that it may as well have just been a rompler, but it’s actually a fairly brave attempt at a proper actual synthesiser

    🏆

  • There's also a PDF Manual for the iM1 which wasnt easy to find online.

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