iM1 AUV3 is live.

musikeer

Thanks @uncledave @HolyMoses

wim

The awesome Mr. @uncledave created an iM1 wiki post for us to preserve some of that great knowledge. It would be great if it could be expanded over time, even with links to worthy posts from the past. I know there are several of those around.

https://wiki.audiob.us/doku.php?id=korg_im1

HolyMoses

@wim said:
The awesome Mr. @uncledave created an iM1 wiki post for us to preserve some of that great knowledge. It would be great if it could be expanded over time, even with links to worthy posts from the past. I know there are several of those around.

https://wiki.audiob.us/doku.php?id=korg_im1

Great!! Thanks Korg-lovers!

Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredr

@u0421793 said:

The M1 came from a day when software engineers were untamed, wild, uncouth, often uncivilised and certainly not likely to get invited to parties, thus they had absolutely no self control and simply poured every possible parameter that could be changed into the “user interface” allowing the user to be baffled at every step faced with an insane — literally insane — amount of parameters on every single page, none of which were prioritised, all of which seemed exactly as important as any other, most of which were a list, none of which were explained properly on the instrument itself, and consequently the cognitive overload is just so stupidly high as to be guaranteed every time

Reminds me of Sunvox.

u0421793

@Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredr said:
@u0421793 said:

The M1 came from a day when software engineers were untamed, wild, uncouth, often uncivilised and certainly not likely to get invited to parties, thus they had absolutely no self control and simply poured every possible parameter that could be changed into the “user interface” allowing the user to be baffled at every step faced with an insane — literally insane — amount of parameters on every single page, none of which were prioritised, all of which seemed exactly as important as any other, most of which were a list, none of which were explained properly on the instrument itself, and consequently the cognitive overload is just so stupidly high as to be guaranteed every time

Reminds me of Sunvox.

It’s very much the same with the Wavestation from the 90s, and if Korg dust off iWAVESTATION then people will be talking about it all over again here, again perhaps soon

MadGav

Something that has struck me paying more attention now that it’s AUv3… this is not your daddy’s M1! There are 1000 waveforms (~100 internal on the hardware, plus 1 waveform card at a time), filters have resonance, many more effects can be used (only the 2 global FX on the hardware). What else did I miss?

u0421793

The KLC card is the sort of retrospective ‘best of’ – it’s the Korg Legacy Collection

reasOne

Dang i thought this was the same thing as iWavestation lol but i was wrong… i have iwave … is im1 a lot different??

u0421793

@reasOne said:
Dang i thought this was the same thing as iWavestation lol but i was wrong… i have iwave … is im1 a lot different??

It’s quite a different thing, altogether

The iPad iWavestation has just about the least sensible user interface that anyone could have slapped together given the screen space and touch affordance and so on – it’s very confusing, very occluded, seems like there’s hardly anything there (but it’s all waiting just around a corner where you can’t see) and really it’d be good if the entire ui were just scrapped and started again with the same guts behind it making the synth be the synth it currently is – almost every time I’ll touch the wave selector and it’s a slider and I’ll never get it back to the one it was before I touched it, and it being a slider like that is stupid

In an initial exploration you’d think there’s hardly anything in it but there’s a very complex synth (well, eight parts (ie patches) so potentially eight synths really, in one ‘performance’ ) and to get to the bit where you see any of that is just cryptic

Anyway, they’re similar and different, they’re both of the same sort of time so they both have too many parameters, same criticisms I applied to M1 above, but Wavestation gave different and new possibilities, which were immediately abused by even some of the built-in patch creators to give that ‘wave sequence’ characteristic 80s sound with zero crossfading (I’m sure the synth designers didn’t anticipate that, I’m sure they thought all wave sequences would be nicely smoothly fading from one to the other)

Oh, and in there you’ll discover a lot of numbered waves called VSnnn – those are all directly from the Prophet VS

reasOne

@u0421793 said:

@reasOne said:
Dang i thought this was the same thing as iWavestation lol but i was wrong… i have iwave … is im1 a lot different??

It’s quite a different thing, altogether

The iPad iWavestation has just about the least sensible user interface that anyone could have slapped together given the screen space and touch affordance and so on – it’s very confusing, very occluded, seems like there’s hardly anything there (but it’s all waiting just around a corner where you can’t see) and really it’d be good if the entire ui were just scrapped and started again with the same guts behind it making the synth be the synth it currently is – almost every time I’ll touch the wave selector and it’s a slider and I’ll never get it back to the one it was before I touched it, and it being a slider like that is stupid

In an initial exploration you’d think there’s hardly anything in it but there’s a very complex synth (well, eight parts (ie patches) so potentially eight synths really, in one ‘performance’ ) and to get to the bit where you see any of that is just cryptic

Anyway, they’re similar and different, they’re both of the same sort of time so they both have too many parameters, same criticisms I applied to M1 above, but Wavestation gave different and new possibilities, which were immediately abused by even some of the built-in patch creators to give that ‘wave sequence’ characteristic 80s sound with zero crossfading (I’m sure the synth designers didn’t anticipate that, I’m sure they thought all wave sequences would be nicely smoothly fading from one to the other)

Oh, and in there you’ll discover a lot of numbered waves called VSnnn – those are all directly from the Prophet VS

Man yeah i got so lost with iwave, it was just a lil more effort than i wanted to put into it.
I appreciate the response… i might wait and see what kinda things people do with im1 to make my decision, i just hope its more intuitive to modify and jam on that i wave, that thing makes me want to just go watch Netflix 🤣

Pab1oXB

@uncledave said:

@Pab1oXB said:
Bought the iM1 due to sale and AUv3 update. I've been tinkering with it and going through the manual a good bit. The is one thing i can't seem to find in the manual. For outputs for the timbre, what is the difference between main and sub? Why is one selected over the other? What do they do differently?

Thanks.

Hi. Main and Sub are the "top" and "bottom" inputs to the MFX. So, depending on whether the MFX are series or parallel, you can send a timbre through different MFX. Remember that each Timbre has its two IFX as well, so that's quite a stack of effects; maybe a few too many.

Thank you @uncledave

thecalimaki

When the App Store description says “3,300 sounds”, is it referring to Combinations, Programs, or Multi Sounds?

Kashi

@thecalimaki said:
When the App Store description says “3,300 sounds”, is it referring to Combinations, Programs, or Multi Sounds?

What it should say, is 3,300 hours before you understand the Combi, multi, prog section...

HolyMoses

@thecalimaki said:
When the App Store description says “3,300 sounds”, is it referring to Combinations, Programs, or Multi Sounds?

Yeah, as I can see, it must be totally over 3000 ”patches” in Korg iM1, if you buy the IAP cards…

But, it doesn’t Really matter how many patches there are, because Korg iM1 is freakin’ fantastic whatever!

iM1 must be one of the first app a new user should buy if your new to music making on iPhone/iPad… Wonderful!

uncledave

@thecalimaki said:
When the App Store description says “3,300 sounds”, is it referring to Combinations, Programs, or Multi Sounds?

Yeah, I believe it's the total number of patches (or presets), including Programs and Combis. A Combi combines multiple Programs, but may have keyboard or velocity splits. As far as I can see, there are no Multi presets; Multi is up to the user.

AtticusL

@Kashi said:

@thecalimaki said:
When the App Store description says “3,300 sounds”, is it referring to Combinations, Programs, or Multi Sounds?

What is should say, is 3,300 hours before you understand the Combi, multi, prog section...

😂

michael_m

@Kashi said:

@thecalimaki said:
When the App Store description says “3,300 sounds”, is it referring to Combinations, Programs, or Multi Sounds?

What is should say, is 3,300 hours before you understand the Combi, multi, prog section...

“I don’t fear the man who has played 3,300 presets - I fear the man who has played the same preset 3,300 times.”

• Bruce Lee