Patterning 3 by Olympia Noise Co (Released)

FordTimeLord

@CantResetPasswor said:

@FordTimeLord said:

@CantResetPasswor said:

@Charlesalbert said:
European prices for apps these days are crazy. 35 euros for an IPad app even if it is AAA is way too crazy for me. Don’t get me wrong I’ve spent thousand of euros for gear and software for the pc\mac but iPad apps increase of prices in the latest two years are way too crazy.

Same for me. I just noticed patterning 3 came out but this price is just too much, especially since I don't live in western Europe and yet the pricing is the same. Too bad there's no discount/bundle for P2 users.

There was a discount on the preorder for the last month

Doesn't help much if you don't even know the app is coming out, eh? Been hoping for Auv3/multi-out version for a looong time ; )

That’s fair I guess, I can see why that is disappointing. To be fair to the dev though, the news wasn’t hidden away like Vogon demolition plans

monch1962

Really nice app @benkamen - thanks mate

Kashi

@benkamen said:

@Kashi said:
Great stuff @benkamen ! Congrats.
How do I import my own samples? I’ve pressed “open” in the drumkits page, but wav files are greyed out and don’t appear to be selectable

Use the sample library instead of the drum kits one!
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1OahHgkUCoPC9H92z68WxFTYudrvq9eYCMDaBGar_mP0/edit#heading=h.45jmnk3aq3v4

Ah! Ok. I had issues accessing the manual yesterday, and then further problems saving the manual to my Books app, which is where I tend to put them....so I couldn't see that.
Cheers!

cuscolima

@thesoundtestroom said:
@benkamen Here is my video tutorial for getting started, I pretty much cover everything you need to know to get going.

I hope you all enjoy the video.

Great video Doug. Everything is said

supadom

That’s unfortunate @CantResetPasswor
Here’s my thoughts:

1. Exchange rate is punishing lower income countries
2. One way or another the dev needs to feed his family.
3. The software is waaay cheaper and flexible than hardware.
4. No shame in reaching out for a code or asking to join beta.
5. Some people like to price software in cups of coffee although it’s probably cheap where you are.
6. Either way, there’s less and less barriers to making music wherever and whoever you are.

Good luck 😊

SecretBaseDesign

@benkamen Loving it. The addition of AuV3 is a game changer for me; when on the iPad, if it's not an AuV3 plug-in, it doesn't get used. It took me a minute to figure out that I had to turn on Ableton in the main app to get the plug-ins to sync, but once over that hurdle, it was off to the races.

I've probably ranted about this before, but I'll do so again. Your UI design and color sense are off the charts amazing. Absolutely gorgeous to look at, and it's easy to "see" what's going on in a pattern.

Mad respect.

Jerrykow

@benkamen A truly wonderful app that opens up many creative possibilities:) Would it be possible to change the pitching per cell in the circle?

espiegel123

@SecretBaseDesign said:
@benkamen Loving it. The addition of AuV3 is a game changer for me; when on the iPad, if it's not an AuV3 plug-in, it doesn't get used. It took me a minute to figure out that I had to turn on Ableton in the main app to get the plug-ins to sync, but once over that hurdle, it was off to the races.

I've probably ranted about this before, but I'll do so again. Your UI design and color sense are off the charts amazing. Absolutely gorgeous to look at, and it's easy to "see" what's going on in a pattern.

Mad respect.

In my experience, the AU will follow the host clock even without Ableton link. What host are you in?

benkamen

@Jerrykow said:
@benkamen A truly wonderful app that opens up many creative possibilities:) Would it be possible to change the pitching per cell in the circle?

yes - fastest way is to touch the “coarse tune” control - it will show the coarse tune layer in the loop and you can edit it per step there. you can also record it in, or go to the layers screen to select the layer.

SecretBaseDesign

@espiegel123 said:

@SecretBaseDesign said:
@benkamen Loving it. The addition of AuV3 is a game changer for me; when on the iPad, if it's not an AuV3 plug-in, it doesn't get used. It took me a minute to figure out that I had to turn on Ableton in the main app to get the plug-ins to sync, but once over that hurdle, it was off to the races.

I've probably ranted about this before, but I'll do so again. Your UI design and color sense are off the charts amazing. Absolutely gorgeous to look at, and it's easy to "see" what's going on in a pattern.

Mad respect.

In my experience, the AU will follow the host clock even without Ableton link. What host are you in?

I'm using AUM -- didn't seem to auto-start/stop with the AUM transport, but I didn't tinker with it too much. I've got Ableton Link turned on for most things, and adding Patterning to the group works fine.

espiegel123

@SecretBaseDesign said:

@espiegel123 said:

@SecretBaseDesign said:
@benkamen Loving it. The addition of AuV3 is a game changer for me; when on the iPad, if it's not an AuV3 plug-in, it doesn't get used. It took me a minute to figure out that I had to turn on Ableton in the main app to get the plug-ins to sync, but once over that hurdle, it was off to the races.

I've probably ranted about this before, but I'll do so again. Your UI design and color sense are off the charts amazing. Absolutely gorgeous to look at, and it's easy to "see" what's going on in a pattern.

Mad respect.

In my experience, the AU will follow the host clock even without Ableton link. What host are you in?

I'm using AUM -- didn't seem to auto-start/stop with the AUM transport, but I didn't tinker with it too much. I've got Ableton Link turned on for most things, and adding Patterning to the group works fine.

That's puzzling. It starts with AUM's transport for me. If that isn't working for you, that would probably be of interest as it is supposed to.

AudioGus

@Gavinski said:
It's a bit of a nightmare tbh, i reckon, with bundles etc. Apple doesn't allow bundles right at moment of release, from what I gather, the app has to be released first before the dev applies for it to be part of a bundle. So if you do a bundle and users are waiting to buy your new app, you potentially cripple your new app's performance in the charts on release. Damned if you do, damned if you don't!

Yah it is easier to just get comfortable with ignoring whiners, they will always be there anyway.

mistercharlie

@AudioGus said:

@Gavinski said:
It's a bit of a nightmare tbh, i reckon, with bundles etc. Apple doesn't allow bundles right at moment of release, from what I gather, the app has to be released first before the dev applies for it to be part of a bundle. So if you do a bundle and users are waiting to buy your new app, you potentially cripple your new app's performance in the charts on release. Damned if you do, damned if you don't!

Yah it is easier to just get comfortable with ignoring whiners, they will always be there anyway.

Exactly. I just mute them and never worry about it again.

CantResetPasswor

@AudioGus said:
Yah it is easier to just get comfortable with ignoring whiners, they will always be there anyway.

@mistercharlie said:
Exactly. I just mute them and never worry about it again.

Oh good souls, I see. Thank you for calling me a whiner for having a simple conversation about an app I was waiting for and telling others to mute me. That's very helpful and not ill-spirited at all...

Wish you two a great life and good health so you don't have to lash out on random people.

AudioGus

@CantResetPasswor said:

@AudioGus said:
Yah it is easier to just get comfortable with ignoring whiners, they will always be there anyway.

@mistercharlie said:
Exactly. I just mute them and never worry about it again.

Oh good souls, I see. Thank you for calling me a whiner for having a simple conversation about an app I was waiting for and telling others to mute me. That's very helpful and not ill-spirited at all...

Wish you two a great life and good health so you don't have to lash out on random people.

Definitely was not talking about you.

Jerrykow

@benkamen said:

@Jerrykow said:
@benkamen A truly wonderful app that opens up many creative possibilities:) Would it be possible to change the pitching per cell in the circle?

yes - fastest way is to touch the “coarse tune” control - it will show the coarse tune layer in the loop and you can edit it per step there. you can also record it in, or go to the layers screen to select the layer.

Absolutely brilliant!! Thank you for the tip and of course for this wonderful app😃👍

oddSTAR

I’m trying to add cloud kits and keep getting this error popping up which closes the selection box. Weird thing is it’s happening on two different devices. Any idea what’s going on?

benkamen

@Kashi said:

@benkamen said:

@Kashi said:
Great stuff @benkamen ! Congrats.
How do I import my own samples? I’ve pressed “open” in the drumkits page, but wav files are greyed out and don’t appear to be selectable

Use the sample library instead of the drum kits one!
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1OahHgkUCoPC9H92z68WxFTYudrvq9eYCMDaBGar_mP0/edit#heading=h.45jmnk3aq3v4

Ah! Ok. I had issues accessing the manual yesterday, and then further problems saving the manual to my Books app, which is where I tend to put them....so I couldn't see that.
Cheers!

Were you able to save the manual to a pdf?

@oddSTAR said:

I’m trying to add cloud kits and keep getting this error popping up which closes the selection box. Weird thing is it’s happening on two different devices. Any idea what’s going on?

Hey - let me know which kits this happens with so I can track it down. Just had someone else ask about this. I understand what the error means, but I need to reproduce it so I can fix it. Thanks! You can DM me.

michael_m

@benkamen said:

@Kashi said:

@benkamen said:

@Kashi said:
Great stuff @benkamen ! Congrats.
How do I import my own samples? I’ve pressed “open” in the drumkits page, but wav files are greyed out and don’t appear to be selectable

Use the sample library instead of the drum kits one!
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1OahHgkUCoPC9H92z68WxFTYudrvq9eYCMDaBGar_mP0/edit#heading=h.45jmnk3aq3v4

Ah! Ok. I had issues accessing the manual yesterday, and then further problems saving the manual to my Books app, which is where I tend to put them....so I couldn't see that.
Cheers!

Were you able to save the manual to a pdf?

@oddSTAR said:

I’m trying to add cloud kits and keep getting this error popping up which closes the selection box. Weird thing is it’s happening on two different devices. Any idea what’s going on?

Hey - let me know which kits this happens with so I can track it down. Just had someone else ask about this. I understand what the error means, but I need to reproduce it so I can fix it. Thanks! You can DM me.

I had the same issue quite a few times, but there didn’t seem to be an issue with loading the kits. It even happened one time while the browser was open and I wasn’t even touching the iPad.

tyslothrop1

@michael_m said:

@benkamen said:

@Kashi said:

@benkamen said:

@Kashi said:
Great stuff @benkamen ! Congrats.
How do I import my own samples? I’ve pressed “open” in the drumkits page, but wav files are greyed out and don’t appear to be selectable

Use the sample library instead of the drum kits one!
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1OahHgkUCoPC9H92z68WxFTYudrvq9eYCMDaBGar_mP0/edit#heading=h.45jmnk3aq3v4

Ah! Ok. I had issues accessing the manual yesterday, and then further problems saving the manual to my Books app, which is where I tend to put them....so I couldn't see that.
Cheers!

Were you able to save the manual to a pdf?

@oddSTAR said:

I’m trying to add cloud kits and keep getting this error popping up which closes the selection box. Weird thing is it’s happening on two different devices. Any idea what’s going on?

Hey - let me know which kits this happens with so I can track it down. Just had someone else ask about this. I understand what the error means, but I need to reproduce it so I can fix it. Thanks! You can DM me.

I had the same issue quite a few times, but there didn’t seem to be an issue with loading the kits. It even happened one time while the browser was open and I wasn’t even touching the iPad.

Same here, all kits work, but while skipping through the kits, the message pops up pretty frequently.

Having loads of fun with Patterning, my favourite new feature is the swing, I'm surprised that's not talked about more here. Thanks for this cool update!

mistercharlie

@AudioGus said:

@CantResetPasswor said:

@AudioGus said:
Yah it is easier to just get comfortable with ignoring whiners, they will always be there anyway.

@mistercharlie said:
Exactly. I just mute them and never worry about it again.

Oh good souls, I see. Thank you for calling me a whiner for having a simple conversation about an app I was waiting for and telling others to mute me. That's very helpful and not ill-spirited at all...

Wish you two a great life and good health so you don't have to lash out on random people.

Definitely was not talking about you.

Same

reasOne

I’ve had one bug, but haven’t really had time to try to reproduce it again.

During playback in AUM one instance of P3 slowed down quite a bit, it was playing back at about 1 step per bar. I had to adjust the timing for each sample track in the instance to get it back to speed

galmandsværk

This new version looks great! However, I like to control as much as possible via midi controls or with widgets in Loopy Pro. So, my question is: how many actions in Patterning 3 are available through auv3 parameters in Loopy Pro (etc) and/or via midi learn?
Can I control delay and reverb values with midi messages? Or drum volumes? Or change patterns?
If yes, then I’m ready to buy! 😀

Edward_Alexander

@reasOne said:
Quick patterning 3 loop with some mighty spacecraft 2 🛸

Dang… here I was, feeling this sense of “completeness”, now that we have Patterning 3 in our mitts, and there you go reminding us that there’s still more apps to come that are going to be “must haves”! 🤣😤

I must say it looks exactly like Spacecraft 1 (?)

Any idea on the release date, or if the beta is still open/avail?

Oh and cool jam btw! Sounds great!

Gavinski

@Edward_Alexander said:

@reasOne said:
Quick patterning 3 loop with some mighty spacecraft 2 🛸

Dang… here I was, feeling this sense of “completeness”, now that we have Patterning 3 in our mitts, and there you go reminding us that there’s still more apps to come that are going to be “must haves”! 🤣😤

I must say it looks exactly like Spacecraft 1 (?)

Any idea on the release date, or if the beta is still open/avail?

Oh and cool jam btw! Sounds great!

Release date is unknown and not likely imminent. The dev prefers ppl don't share this app in vids or pics at the moment btw, as he is tired of ppl asking him when it's coming out 😁

benkamen

I had the same issue quite a few times, but there didn’t seem to be an issue with loading the kits. It even happened one time while the browser was open and I wasn’t even touching the iPad.

I’m glad it’s not causing any major issues other than being annoying. I think it’s specifically p1 drumkits causing this, but not sure yet.

In p1 and p2 the sample start end points were stored in sample numbers and now they’re stored as a percentage. I think that something in the data migration is causing the error message. But I haven’t been able to sit down and work on it yet.

@galmandsværk said:
This new version looks great! However, I like to control as much as possible via midi controls or with widgets in Loopy Pro. So, my question is: how many actions in Patterning 3 are available through auv3 parameters in Loopy Pro (etc) and/or via midi learn?
Can I control delay and reverb values with midi messages? Or drum volumes? Or change patterns?
If yes, then I’m ready to buy! 😀

AU params - not yet. MIDI learn - most everything. If you find a param not MIDI assignable that should be, let me know.

Antos3345

I am very happy that this app has been built for Auv3, but is it just a rebuild or are there some differences that are better ?

espiegel123

@Antos3345 said:
I am very happy that this app has been built for Auv3, but is it just a rebuild or are there some differences that are better ?

The developer’s website lists the new features and it will continue to get more.

reasOne

@Edward_Alexander said:

@reasOne said:
Quick patterning 3 loop with some mighty spacecraft 2 🛸

Dang… here I was, feeling this sense of “completeness”, now that we have Patterning 3 in our mitts, and there you go reminding us that there’s still more apps to come that are going to be “must haves”! 🤣😤

I must say it looks exactly like Spacecraft 1 (?)

Any idea on the release date, or if the beta is still open/avail?

Oh and cool jam btw! Sounds great!

Haha yes spacecraft is one of my most used apps of all time. I mix it into everything i make in some regard. Its the perfect app IMO! Not sure on release i actually forgot it was not out yet. I beta test the crap out of it i guess 🤣

reasOne

@Gavinski said:

@Edward_Alexander said:

@reasOne said:
Quick patterning 3 loop with some mighty spacecraft 2 🛸

Dang… here I was, feeling this sense of “completeness”, now that we have Patterning 3 in our mitts, and there you go reminding us that there’s still more apps to come that are going to be “must haves”! 🤣😤

I must say it looks exactly like Spacecraft 1 (?)

Any idea on the release date, or if the beta is still open/avail?

Oh and cool jam btw! Sounds great!

Release date is unknown and not likely imminent. The dev prefers ppl don't share this app in vids or pics at the moment btw, as he is tired of ppl asking him when it's coming out 😁

Its ok buddy i was just posting a lil jam session