Battalion by Unfiltered Audio (Released on iOS)

Squishy

Ya, MMM is one of those apps like StreamByter where I got it for a specific use case, and I’m sure it can do MANY other things, but it’s mostly over my head at the moment. I’ll get there! Thanks guys

Overreach

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coloringpad

@ALB said:

@coloringpad said:
Had to pick up Needlepoint and LoFi AF after playing with this for a few days. Solid stuff from this developer.

This is a total fantasy, given the major CPU draw from this app, but....
I wish I could separate the outputs of each drum in this machine to different effects, like I could with Patterning 2 in Aum. Or at least select to output from buses in Aum. Just one or two would be amazing.

This has multiout in AUM but you also need to set up the routing for this in the mixer page. I assume that this will offer the flexibility that you want.

So I tried this out. I had no idea I could do this in Aum.

For everyone else using AUM....

So, basically, on Battalion's Mix/FX page, you can choose from the Routing column nine different stereo outputs. That is, pairs of 1&2, 3&4, etc. all the way up to 17&18.

What I didn't understand was how to access them:
Start a new Audio Channel in AUM.
Click Multi-bus Audio Unit Instances. There, you will find an UA Battalion bus. Click it.
Anything you send to that pair (3&4, for example) will come though that channel. So now you can have separate effects on any drum sound you wish, and mix volumes accordingly.

Right now, I'm trying 2 instances of LoFi AF, 1 Needlepoint, and 1 Silo. Super UA Battlestation!

Thank you, ALB!

ALB

@coloringpad said:

@ALB said:

@coloringpad said:
Had to pick up Needlepoint and LoFi AF after playing with this for a few days. Solid stuff from this developer.

This is a total fantasy, given the major CPU draw from this app, but....
I wish I could separate the outputs of each drum in this machine to different effects, like I could with Patterning 2 in Aum. Or at least select to output from buses in Aum. Just one or two would be amazing.

This has multiout in AUM but you also need to set up the routing for this in the mixer page. I assume that this will offer the flexibility that you want.

So I tried this out. I had no idea I could do this in Aum.

For everyone else using AUM....

So, basically, on Battalion's Mix/FX page, you can choose from the Routing column nine different stereo outputs. That is, pairs of 1&2, 3&4, etc. all the way up to 17&18.

What I didn't understand was how to access them:
Start a new Audio Channel in AUM.
Click Multi-bus Audio Unit Instances. There, you will find an UA Battalion bus. Click it.
Anything you send to that pair (3&4, for example) will come though that channel. So now you can have separate effects on any drum sound you wish, and mix volumes accordingly.

Right now, I'm trying 2 instances of LoFi AF, 1 Needlepoint, and 1 Silo. Super UA Battlestation!

Thank you, ALB!

Happy to help - have fun!

seawind161

@Gavinski said:

Maybe I’m misunderstanding what you’re asking for, but GSDSP already released a free app with that whole modulation system built in, which you can then use to modulate the parameters of any app:

https://apps.apple.com/app/gsdsp-mmm/id6443846329
And:
https://apps.apple.com/app/gsdsp-mmmm/id6450306205

I swear, Gav, you’re the ChatGPT of iPad music making, and I mean that in the best possible way! I had forgotten about those. Thanks for the reminder!

amusesmile

@coloringpad said:
From the iOS app store description:

Each drum channel contains two sequencers. The first sequencer is a manual step sequencer with ratcheting, probability, velocity, pitch, micro-timing, and more... per-step! Each parameter lane can run at a different speed and length, making generative, evolving patterns a breeze. The second sequencer combines Euclidean patterns with an Unfiltered-designed permutation engine. Both sequencers run in parallel and receive further shaping via an array of Sequence Modifiers. Want one drum sequence to speed up while another slows down? The SHAPE parameter is here for you. Need that hi-hat to be a bit lazy? SHIFT will nudge it to rush or drag. And if you think drum machines have no soul, wait until you combine per-channel SWING with global HUMANIZE.

I didn't realize this at all! Speeding up and slowing down? What is going to happen to my ears? Whoa, this is gonna be fun.

Heavily inspired by J-Dilla's time-shifting techniques as described by Dan Charnas in Dilla Time, by the way. And Mike's research on phase based sequencing: https://github.com/mhetrick/hetrickcv/blob/master/docs/Topics/Phasors.md

eylvy

MonkeyDrummer

Has the fx pre-fader send “issue” been fixed on the release version?

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coloringpad

Anyone importing samples able to make folders?

Also, had a three hour session exploring this app more, and had a really cool experience I wanted to share.

I set up a kit in Battalion that had the same sound in all 8 drum parts: a long sample of pops and clicks from records. Set that to randomize start point. Also set up some chokes and some probability.

On Battalion's Mix/FX page, I sent each part to a separate bus. Drum 1 to 3/4, Drum 2 to 5/6, etc.

I then set up AUM so that each Multi-bus Audio Unit Instances from Battalion was present. Then I played with adding effects... That's when the magic happened. Using Unfiltered Audio effects, random effects, deep effects like Turnado and Wow and Effectrix, there was just so much going on I felt like I was endlessly intrigued.

I guess what I'm saying is, utilizing the Multi-bus Audio Unit Instances is freaking amazing. I knew the drums and samples inside Battalion were really tweakable, variable, and deep. I realize now that sending them to different effects will send you into Mad Scientist mode.

Anyway, if this makes no sense to anyone, I wouldn't be surprised. 🤪 Back to the laboratory....

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gregsmith

Does anyone know if samples are stored in the auv3 instance?

FPC

Sorry another question! Does anyone host this within Logic?

Does it output midi accurately to Logic's timeline? How about writing audio, does Logic's Bounce in Place work?

Keen to buy before intro offer finishes but would have to refund if it can't do the above.

drewinnit

Would love if this could switch between patterns groovebox style, so i could play a multi—pattern live set

Gavinski

@drewinnit said:
Would love if this could switch between patterns groovebox style, so i could play a multi—pattern live set

That feature is coming apparently, think the devs said it upthread

steve99

@Luxthor said:

Are you kidding? The bottom one has got loads of Loopy Pro's built in, I'll take that one

RetroNewb

Just picked up Battalion , generally impressed , my feature requests would be ;

ideally the Sampler was just another engine to choose , so that it could be switched out with another synth engine ,
i.e both slots could host any engine .
given this is unlikely to change , could a workaround be that the sample engine could internally sample slot 1 ?,
thus allowing slot 1 to then be changed to another engine .

additionally , could a resynthesis engine(s) be added to the sampler ,
I’m sure UnFiltered Audio would bring some interesting ideas to this .

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drewinnit

@Gavinski said:

@drewinnit said:
Would love if this could switch between patterns groovebox style, so i could play a multi—pattern live set

That feature is coming apparently, think the devs said it upthread

That‘s awesome, cheers Gav

somblebeats

@FPC said:
Sorry another question! Does anyone host this within Logic?

Does it output midi accurately to Logic's timeline? How about writing audio, does Logic's Bounce in Place work?

Keen to buy before intro offer finishes but would have to refund if it can't do the above.

I use it in logic and bip works perfectly - hadn’t thought about outputting its midi until now but it doesn’t seem to output anything as far as I can tell (could be wrong though).

wim

@somblebeats said:

@FPC said:
Sorry another question! Does anyone host this within Logic?

Does it output midi accurately to Logic's timeline? How about writing audio, does Logic's Bounce in Place work?

Keen to buy before intro offer finishes but would have to refund if it can't do the above.

I use it in logic and bip works perfectly - hadn’t thought about outputting its midi until now but it doesn’t seem to output anything as far as I can tell (could be wrong though).

Yeh, I don't see any midi out, even though it shows an output port in AUM. I don't see any settings anywhere, and the manual only mentions midi input, not output.

Too bad, that sequencer is killer.

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wim

Sweet! Thanks for the news @offbrands.

Luxthor

@steve99 said:
Are you kidding? The bottom one has got loads of Loopy Pro's built in, I'll take that one

You know you can make a sleek workspace in LP too?! 😉

wim

Military aviation controlled by midi. What could possibly go wrong?

steve99

@wim said:
Military aviation controlled by midi. What could possibly go wrong?

Actually the more I look at that image, it's the lack of cupholders that puts me off.

gregsmith

@offbrands said:

@wim said:

@somblebeats said:

@FPC said:
Sorry another question! Does anyone host this within Logic?

Does it output midi accurately to Logic's timeline? How about writing audio, does Logic's Bounce in Place work?

Keen to buy before intro offer finishes but would have to refund if it can't do the above.

I use it in logic and bip works perfectly - hadn’t thought about outputting its midi until now but it doesn’t seem to output anything as far as I can tell (could be wrong though).

Yeh, I don't see any midi out, even though it shows an output port in AUM. I don't see any settings anywhere, and the manual only mentions midi input, not output.

Too bad, that sequencer is killer.

From the Beta thread.

Can anyone confirm if they patched this by removing iCloud sample support? Or is it still in there?

This is one of those features I look for in sample based apps

craftycurate

@gregsmith said:

@offbrands said:

@wim said:

@somblebeats said:

@FPC said:
Sorry another question! Does anyone host this within Logic?

Does it output midi accurately to Logic's timeline? How about writing audio, does Logic's Bounce in Place work?

Keen to buy before intro offer finishes but would have to refund if it can't do the above.

I use it in logic and bip works perfectly - hadn’t thought about outputting its midi until now but it doesn’t seem to output anything as far as I can tell (could be wrong though).

Yeh, I don't see any midi out, even though it shows an output port in AUM. I don't see any settings anywhere, and the manual only mentions midi input, not output.

Too bad, that sequencer is killer.

From the Beta thread.

Can anyone confirm if they patched this by removing iCloud sample support? Or is it still in there?

This is one of those features I look for in sample based apps

iCloud support was only ever partially working in the beta (on my device anyway) - a Battalion sample folder was created in iCloud, but the corresponding iCloud preset folder never appeared for me. It was shortly after that, that UA changed direction and decided to restructure the preset system and maybe iCloud functionality as well.

gregsmith

@craftycurate said:

@gregsmith said:

@offbrands said:

@wim said:

@somblebeats said:

@FPC said:
Sorry another question! Does anyone host this within Logic?

Does it output midi accurately to Logic's timeline? How about writing audio, does Logic's Bounce in Place work?

Keen to buy before intro offer finishes but would have to refund if it can't do the above.

I use it in logic and bip works perfectly - hadn’t thought about outputting its midi until now but it doesn’t seem to output anything as far as I can tell (could be wrong though).

Yeh, I don't see any midi out, even though it shows an output port in AUM. I don't see any settings anywhere, and the manual only mentions midi input, not output.

Too bad, that sequencer is killer.

From the Beta thread.

Can anyone confirm if they patched this by removing iCloud sample support? Or is it still in there?

This is one of those features I look for in sample based apps

iCloud support was only ever partially working in the beta (on my device anyway) - a Battalion sample folder was created in iCloud, but the corresponding iCloud preset folder never appeared for me. It was shortly after that, that UA changed direction and decided to restructure the preset system and maybe iCloud functionality as well.

Ah ok. Do you know if the auv3 stores the samples within its save state?

I wish I’d had more time to get involved with the beta!