Loopy Pro: Create music, your way.

What is Loopy Pro? — Loopy Pro is a powerful, flexible, and intuitive live looper, sampler, clip launcher and DAW for iPhone and iPad. At its core, it allows you to record and layer sounds in real-time to create complex musical arrangements. But it doesn’t stop there—Loopy Pro offers advanced tools to customize your workflow, build dynamic performance setups, and create a seamless connection between instruments, effects, and external gear.

Use it for live looping, sequencing, arranging, mixing, and much more. Whether you're a live performer, a producer, or just experimenting with sound, Loopy Pro helps you take control of your creative process.

Download on the App Store

Loopy Pro is your all-in-one musical toolkit. Try it for free today.

Ableton Move

1…1314151618

Comments

  • BroCoastBroCoast

    @yellow_eyez said:

    @cyberheater said:

    This video is fantastic
    I mean it’s hilarious, honest, and informative

    The guys not bad at all

    I was looking at this as an op-z replacement but it seems like it’s a lot of menu diving ? And he makes it seem like the screen isn’t enough info sometimes . I didn’t like the op/z needed the iOS app to see what was going on. But how intuitive did non Ableton users find this?

    Definitely not much menu diving. Man I hate that stuff and the Move is only ever 2 layers deep at most if that makes sense. Once you have some templates, you're never going to use the menus much. It's not much like an OP-Z, it's like some x0x gear on steroids with a bit of the original OP-1 in there.

  • MonkeyDrummerMonkeyDrummer

    Question for Move users with iPad…

    I just read on Ableton forum that even though the move appears in AUM as midi device when connected to usb-c it’s not actually usable?! Can someone verify?

    If that’s true, and you can only get midi in via the other usb port… how’s that work? How do you connect usb midi via usb-b if they end up being male connections on each end? (iPad > usb dongle > USB cable > ??? > Move midi/usb in.

  • BroCoastBroCoast

    @MonkeyDrummer said:
    Question for Move users with iPad…

    I just read on Ableton forum that even though the move appears in AUM as midi device when connected to usb-c it’s not actually usable?! Can someone verify?

    If that’s true, and you can only get midi in via the other usb port… how’s that work? How do you connect usb midi via usb-b if they end up being male connections on each end? (iPad > usb dongle > USB cable > ??? > Move midi/usb in.

    I'll check it out, I haven't really delved into using it as a midi controller/sequencer too much yet.

    Connection from USB A port to USB C on iPad is just a standard A - C cable, no dongles.

  • mikewbmikewb

    I just read on Ableton forum that even though the move appears in AUM as midi device when connected to usb-c it’s not actually usable?! Can someone verify?

    If that’s true, and you can only get midi in via the other usb port… how’s that work? How do you connect usb midi via usb-b if they end up being male connections on each end? (iPad > usb dongle > USB cable > ??? > Move midi/usb in.

    I haven’t had any luck usb-c and the iPad. It does indeed show up in AUM but doesn’t seem to work. It’s unfortunate as the usb-c connection is integrated perfectly with the iPad Melodics app. The pad lights mirror the app and audio is transmitted to the move. In the Discord Q&A they mentioned there is an sdk that was used for the implementation of the Melodics app but is currently not published. Although they mentioned that better midi is on their list, USB-c iPad controller options aren’t a high priority. Pretty bummed as this would make such a great iPad controller.

  • tput73tput73

    Ya was bummed about no midi that way with one simple cable.
    Ended up using the WIdi bud pro usb dongle(s)
    With great results

    https://www.cme-pro.com/product/widi-bud-pro/

    Yup usb C would be so nice for audio too, I had audio going into loopy but couldn’t hear playback.

    Move is so fun standalone, then of course I immediately brainstorm integrating with other gear.

    Also slightly ironic- Move has made more sedentary.

  • MonkeyDrummerMonkeyDrummer

    @tput73 said:
    Ya was bummed about no midi that way with one simple cable.
    Ended up using the WIdi bud pro usb dongle(s)
    With great results

    https://www.cme-pro.com/product/widi-bud-pro/

    Yup usb C would be so nice for audio too, I had audio going into loopy but couldn’t hear playback.

    Move is so fun standalone, then of course I immediately brainstorm integrating with other gear.

    Also slightly ironic- Move has made more sedentary.

    Thanks for info… I’ve got one on the way. The gimped midi really sucks, and seems like another case where beancounters and “product managers” got in the way of the designers and engineers…

    Can’t risk cannibalism of 1% of another product!

    So the midi usb dongle does work? That’s good as I have a Yamaha one I can try when the Move gets here.

  • yellow_eyezyellow_eyez

    Well Teenage engineering OP-XY WILL be out in 2 weeks so anyone maybe hold off and see what they are offering

  • MonkeyDrummerMonkeyDrummer

    @yellow_eyez said:
    Well Teenage engineering OP-XY WILL be out in 2 weeks so anyone maybe hold off and see what they are offering

    I don’t have $2000 sitting around, or whatever ludicrous price they will charge for it… I’m sure it looks lovely sitting on the $1000 erector set table… 🤑😝

  • yellow_eyezyellow_eyez

    Yeah it’s def gonna be $1k - or around there

    It’s not gonna be as much as their flagship $2k but it might be close

    I hope it is so I can’t afford it lmao

  • steve99steve99
    edited October 31

    Never one to under complicate things, I successfully head scratched my way to getting the right cables to use a Teenage Engineering headset mic with a Joyo Momix Pro in and out of a Move.

    This gives me a neat battery powered way to sample from guitar and/or mic (either xlr or from the trrs headset), as well as other analogue sources or iOS devices. Connected this way, the headphones monitor from the Move’s output. Will I use it like this? Time will tell…

    If anyone is actually interested in what’s needed to achieve this cable-wise then let me know and I can provide specifics.


  • andowritesandowrites

    @steve99 said:
    Never one to under complicate things, I successfully head scratched my way to getting the right cables to use a Teenage Engineering headset mic with a Joyo Momix Pro in and out of a Move.

    This gives me a neat battery powered way to sample from guitar and/or mic (either xlr or from the trrs headset), as well as other analogue sources or iOS devices. Connected this way, the headphones monitor from the Move’s output. Will I use it like this? Time will tell…

    If anyone is actually interested in what’s needed to achieve this cable-wise then let me know and I can provide specifics.


    I'd love for you to share the specifics please, I already have an M-1 headset, and am ordering a Move, and have been looking for a mobile mixer interface.

  • andowritesandowrites

    @special_k said:
    For any of you that might be interested I’ve been sequencing my iPad from move using the nektar WIDIflex usb dongle, class compliant so it plugs straight in and works with very low latency, you can use the built in arp, note repeat, scales etc. and I’ve tried mapping a drum track to beat makers pads which works as expected..

    Brilliant. Now I need to look up the WIDIflex.

  • andowritesandowrites

    @Tarekith said:

    @yellow_eyez said:
    I was looking at this as an op-z replacement but it seems like it’s a lot of menu diving ? And he makes it seem like the screen isn’t enough info sometimes . I didn’t like the op/z needed the iOS app to see what was going on. But how intuitive did non Ableton users find this?

    There’s really not a ton of menu diving, most of what you’ll ever need to access is only 1 or 2 layers deep. The most you’ll probably use it for is just selecting presets or effects types, or seeing what the knobs are assigned to. But those assignments pop up the second you touch a knob which makes it easy. There’s definitely still some button combinations to learn to get the most out of it too, but the main workflow is pretty intuitive and easy to grok by watching some of the better reviews. I think Ricky Tinez does a good job of breaking things down on that front in real world uses.

    Not sure I would really consider it a replacement for the OP-Z, don’t let the round step sequencer buttons fool you. Move doesn’t have any sort of step components, which are a huge part of what makes the OP-Z so special.

    And there you go making me wish I hadn't sold my OP-Z. :)

  • steve99steve99
    edited October 31

    @andowrites said:
    Brilliant. Now I need to look up the WIDIflex.

    Here’s the uk Amazon link - I got a ‘used like new’ one yesterday for £34.

    https://amzn.eu/d/3IDPtPn

    I think it’s the same as the CME one, I’m assuming they’ve licensed it, rather than just ripping it off. I have no evidence for that though either way - but both the CME and Nektar products I’ve used up to now have been very good quality.

  • steve99steve99
    edited October 31

    @andowrites said:

    I'd love for you to share the specifics please, I already have an M-1 headset, and am ordering a Move, and have been looking for a mobile mixer interface.

    Excellent - always good to know I’m not in a bubble of one :)

    Before suggesting the digesting of any of this, I must say I’m finding Move’s built in mic useful for most sampling needs so far… but I’m only a week in, so good to have options.

    Excuse me if I over explain this, but good to be clear for the record:

    The Teenage engineering M1 headset is a 4 pole TRRS 3.5mm plug (like most headsets/headphones with a mic). The Momix Pro has a 4 pole input/output that is compatible, offering headphone out and mic in on the same plug. In this case though, you want the mic in to the Momix, the Momix out to the Move and then the Move out to the headphones. So you need to split the TRRS of the headphones into 2x 3 pole TRS. However, you need to convert the mic leg back to a TRRS 4 pole plug so the mic signal is on the correct ring of the plug going into the Momix.

    This is what you need:

    2x short 3.5mm standard 3 pole TRS minijack to minijack cables (one from Momix out to Move in, one from Move out to headphone in).

    One 4 pole female to twin 3 pole male (to split headset):

    https://www.amazon.co.uk/Headphone-Splitter-Microphone-Compatible-Controller/dp/B0BY35FPZ4

    Headphone Mic Splitter 3.5mm Jack Audio Mic Braided Adapter Aux Female to 2 Male PC Headset Microphone Cable

    Then, crucially, one of these 3 pole to 4 pole converters to go between the mic and Momix input:

    https://www.amazon.co.uk/Yosoo-Health-Gear-Microphone-Compatible-default/dp/B08X1DJGJ9

    Yosoo Health Gear TRS to TRRS Converter Cable, 3.5mm TRS to TRRS Adapter Microphone Adapter Cable Converter Mobile Audio Adapter for Microphone Compatible, Camera Video Recording

    One last thing is a 3.5mm female to female barrel/coupler to go between the Move output cable and the headphone splitter, but you could use a male to female cable from the Move (instead of the more regular male to male I have).

    https://www.amazon.co.uk/StarTech-com-3-5-Audio-Coupler-Female/dp/B003N3G7PS

    Obviously, other manufacturers, vendors and price options are undoubtedly available. The Momix Pro itself I can highly recommend as a swiss army audio interface / mixer device.

    Hope that’s neither too bamboozling nor incredibly dull. I fear it may be both :)

  • yellow_eyezyellow_eyez

    @andowrites said:

    @Tarekith said:

    @yellow_eyez said:
    I was looking at this as an op-z replacement but it seems like it’s a lot of menu diving ? And he makes it seem like the screen isn’t enough info sometimes . I didn’t like the op/z needed the iOS app to see what was going on. But how intuitive did non Ableton users find this?

    There’s really not a ton of menu diving, most of what you’ll ever need to access is only 1 or 2 layers deep. The most you’ll probably use it for is just selecting presets or effects types, or seeing what the knobs are assigned to. But those assignments pop up the second you touch a knob which makes it easy. There’s definitely still some button combinations to learn to get the most out of it too, but the main workflow is pretty intuitive and easy to grok by watching some of the better reviews. I think Ricky Tinez does a good job of breaking things down on that front in real world uses.

    Not sure I would really consider it a replacement for the OP-Z, don’t let the round step sequencer buttons fool you. Move doesn’t have any sort of step components, which are a huge part of what makes the OP-Z so special.

    And there you go making me wish I hadn't sold my OP-Z. :)

    Me too…just got the check in the mail actually - literally just now

    But good riddance to bad double triggers

    Plus the OP-XY comes out in two weeks ! So you might want to get that as I’m sure it’s some kind of op-z v2.0

    I’m moving away from hardware. I am down to a korg volca drum, TE KO2 and TE OP1f

    If I could sell the ko2 and volca drum, I would feel a lot better about my studio

    I only wanna keep my op1f atm now - but the fact that I’m down to a $100 drum machine and two pieces of TE gear is a good start

    (Idk , ns2 kinda snapped me back into iOS centric work , and Loopy pro has me interested with the midi )

    Point is don’t ever miss your op-z - they were born to break

  • TarekithTarekith

    Where are you getting info that the OP-Z Field is coming out in two weeks?

  • yellow_eyezyellow_eyez

    It’s called the OP-XY
    It was announced yesterday or something

  • TarekithTarekith

    Got a link? All I can find is speculation based on an FCC filing, not real info. I hope it’s true, had money set aside patiently waiting for this day if it is.

  • yellow_eyezyellow_eyez

    It seems whoever has leaked the last two things (like medieval) leaked this as well. Ofc the Reddit post is now removed .

    Anyway besides speculation, people referenced the superbooth interview 2023 where he said the op-z field was xx away from development - and the timeline was q1 2025 for the “op z field” but then they said the field line was no longer being expanded upon , so this is going to be just an op- line, like the op-z was…. So logic is making the opz v2 the likely candidate on top of the fact it’s called op-xy, when they obviously wouldn’t call it something like z 2 or so people are guessing

    If I had more info I would tell u

    Only confirmed Fact -. The new “OP-XY” product is rolling out in less than 2 weeks

  • TarekithTarekith

    Thanks, good to know!

  • SpookyZooSpookyZoo

    Just a few bug fixes, no features...

    https://www.ableton.com/en/release-notes/move-1/

  • SpookyZooSpookyZoo
    edited November 1

    ...(post deleted - issue resolved)

  • CrabmanCrabman

    pure gold, love that guy 😂

  • knewspeakknewspeak

    @Crabman said:
    pure gold, love that guy 😂

    Wonderful and hilarious <3 :D <3

  • MonkeyDrummerMonkeyDrummer

    FWIW… got my move a few days ago. Have been using it a lot. Tried integrating it into my “ Wank-o-tron” setup (video incoming eventually) and it’s just not worth the effort.
    To;dr - gonna return it and just stick with Note.

    From my POV, the move is “ok” for the money, and maybe Ableton will eventually get it to be “good”, but right now it’s just too limited unless you’re really interested in the whole “extension of Live” thing. And even if you are, Note is still “better”.

    Issues with Move as it stands:
    The usb audio and midi is just waaaayyyyy too gimped. And for apparently no good reasons.
    You can’t have it connected to a computer or iPad and charge at the same time without using a splitter cable they are out of stock on.
    The whole “must choose a midi direction of in OR out” is stupid.
    A bunch of functions are missing vs Note.

    I will say the pads on the Move are pretty nice, with velocity and aftertouch. But beyond that aspect of the physical device, you’re better off spending the money on another dedicated iPad and Note. You get a lot of the advantages of Move with Note.

    If you need/want hardware that’s similar, I’d go with Circuit Tracks or eve the MC101 for “portable” solutions that are in same ballpark price-wise.

  • echooperaechoopera
    edited November 5

    Move all the way baby. I love this thing. For me it’s instant “flow” state when playing it. I don’t really feel the “limitations” most people seem to have with it.

    So far i am enjoying the process of Sampling and building tracks from a Sample based workflow. I’m just glad i invested in this way of working as it makes it super easy for me to work on the Move, MPC, Push 3 and Drambo in an almost standardized workflow when creating.

    Anyhoo. Move is a home run in my book.

    I’ve been pretty active posting videos to the Ableton Discord channel highlighting my work.

    Looking forward to where they take the Move, but as a 1.0, I’m very happy with it.

    Gabe does a great job of saying what the Move isn’t and what the Move is here:

  • mistercharliemistercharlie

    @echoopera said:

    For me it’s instant “flow” state when playing it. I don’t really feel the “limitations” most people seem to have with it.
    Anyhoo. Move is a home run in my book.

    I feel exactly the same. It's like Koala for me, in that every time I switch it on to check something, I end up making yet another song. And now that the Push beta lets it import Note and Move sets from the Ableton Cloud, it's even smoother to kick things up to the next level.

  • echooperaechoopera

    I mean come on. Check this out. How on earth is this limited?

  • echooperaechoopera
    edited November 5

    @mistercharlie said:

    @echoopera said:

    For me it’s instant “flow” state when playing it. I don’t really feel the “limitations” most people seem to have with it.
    Anyhoo. Move is a home run in my book.

    I feel exactly the same. It's like Koala for me, in that every time I switch it on to check something, I end up making yet another song. And now that the Push beta lets it import Note and Move sets from the Ableton Cloud, it's even smoother to kick things up to the next level.

    Yup. I think I’ve found my hardware groove thing.

    Great to hear that Cloud syncing is on the beta for Push3. I’m too nervous to install Beta in hardware so keep hammering on it for the rest of us 🤪

Sign In or Register to comment.

© Vanilla Keystone Theme 2024