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I don't care what they do with this thing at this point but they MUST make it easier to LP/BP/HP our samples.
It's becoming like the OP1 for me. Forcing me to make music a certain way, cool when you want that but I need to be able to have it bend a little for my needs. Let me have my performance filters Ableton you dogs.
(pre)ordered one now. Even if i don‘t use ableton live. But that‘s ok, the whole ios music thing is a big bag of compromises since 14 years, so i‘m used to fight arround limitations (and still currently prefer logic ios over my M1 mac with logic). I gonna use ableton light for creating presets though.
How does it compete again a Launchpad Pro?
$2299
Ouch!
This is a great article on the whole purpose of Move according to ableton themselves.
https://musictech.com/features/interviews/ableton-move-johannes-russ-interview/
Feels like it should put to rest any misconceptions about "why can't it be midi controller", "why doesn't it control note", "why doesn't it control my hardware" or any hard thing people want it to do. It's just for slapping an idea down and throwing it into their DAW. That's its purpose in life. Wanting it to do something more doesn't align with why and who it was designed for. It was created to have fun building an idea that you would, if you wanted to, move into their own DAW to finish. I don't understand why it can't just "do that thing" and it be enough.
Nice, thanks!
no reason it can't be a great midi controller.
also missing out on MPE Pads means Ableton note will never get MPE. shame.
Ableton have literally been pushing MPE for years and they don't commit with Move, they could have charged more money and release a much more useful machine. people would have bought it at a higher cost.
backed out of their own tech.
I think many people bought it already and enjoy it for what is. Me, for example.
Lots of companies don’t put the same tech in every tier of product they offer. Totally normal. You want MPE? Buy a push. You can always write an idea in move and add MPE in Live.
It’s a cheap idea box. You don’t have to have MPE to bang out an idea. I could care less if it had it.
Do any of the TE boxes even have velocity? (Just asking questions, I’ll get my coat😅😂)
The new OP-XY has.
adding MPE to the idea afterwards is an idea killer actually. if i use MPE i want that Implemented as the initial idea.
you don't retro fit the initial idea. its usually the foundation of the track.
What do you use for MPE today?
Earlier in this thread I said that much as I thought the Move was an elegant example of Ableton design at its best, I didn't think it had a place in my mobile toys of choice.
But then I got to play with the actual hardware, and was instantly won over. I'm not suggesting that it's better than the Roland and Teenage Engineering kit it's sitting beside it in the photo above, but it provides a completely different flavour to that offered by the others. Sure, the Medieval is superfluous to needs considering it's basically a KO II with a bunch of medieval ROM content, but all of these mobile devices have a unique personality which elicit different performances from the artist. At street prices, they can all be purchased for under £400 (all brand-new other than the OP-1 which can be nabbed 2nd Hand on eBay for £500+ since the Field was released).
The thing that's really hard to appreciate about the Move is just how premium the hardware feels. The pads are just as responsive as those on the 3rd Gen Push. Sure it doesn't have MPE, but the fact that Drum Racks, Wavetable, & Drift play back faultlessly is a marvel considering it's powered by a diminutive Quad-core ARM Cortex-A72 processor with 2 GB RAM. And at no point does the interaction design lag.
It's worth adding that the Quad-core ARM Cortex-A72 processor, with 2 GB RAM, walks all over the processing grunt available in any of the other devices in the photo.
The aspect that has won me over the most is the quality of the interaction design. It's pretty much frictionless. The depth of it's feature-set makes itself known to the artist at point of need, without the need of key combinations to memorise and such like. And much as it only allows 4 parts (much like all the other devices in the photo), its polyphony is far greater because the Drum Rack itself provides 16 note/part polyphony, and there's nothing stopping the artist from loading the pads with non-percussion samples so they can be used for stereo chord samples and tonal content for melodic parts.
If I could only leave home with one device, it would be the Move. Much as I love the OP-1, the Move is both inspiring in use and practical when it comes to integrating compositions into my desktop DAW. All the other devices have to be tracked into a desktop DAW and that's a lot more work than the instant integration between Move and Ableton on the desktop.
So does the OP-1F. It uses the accelerometer rather than actual velocity sensitive keys, but it works better than you’d think.
Here is an interesting video where it is explained how MPE is used inside Move to play chromatically a sample
At 18:30
Ahh interesting, I thought they all still didn’t even have that, at least the move has both velocity and pressure…
What to expect and why from Move straight from Ableton's mouth
Great. I’ve done very little except use it as a standalone but good to see it can be used for a Poly AT controller with iOS. I honestly wasn’t even expecting that much from it.
In a classic case of horses for course's, I'd still far rather use my LaunchPad Pro with iPadOS devices (since getting the Push 3, that's mainly how mine gets used these days). I love my Ableton Move, far more than I'd expected I would, but I love it for what it's primarily designed to be. Sure if you don't have a LaunchPad Pro it's great that the Move can be utilised as a limited controller for iOS/iPadOS, but the experience isn't going to come close to using what's effectively a universal Push experience for a universe of non-Ableton hardware, DAWs, software etc.
Hmm, sorry for not going through 19 pages.. 1) Do I load a samples only in drum track?
2) How many samples can I load at once? 16? 32?
3) Can I resample and add new samples?
4) Can I record an automation and changes?
I mean, can I record switching through drum kits, or hmm destroing drum pattern by changes in global fx settings?
I have a vague idea of this machine atm, but starting to learn from videos
PS Anybody in EU disapointed and willing to sell theirs? 😁
PM me
1) you can load samples in drum tracks and in "sampler" tracks.
2) 16 samples per drum track, up to 4 tracks. 64 samples monophonic. On a Sampler track you load one sample but play it polyphonic
3) yes
4) yes
And much more
And I am too happy with mine to resell it
Was there any update since release? Did they add something „to the mix”?
Few other questions, bumping the topic.
Can you sample through usb c cable? For example from iphone?
Does it have midi over usb open for other sources? For example, can you run midi app from ios to change notes on ableton move sound(s) and will move record those midi changes into its sequencer?
It would be cool to do so, but maybe I’m expecting too much..
PS What would be best companion for recording output from Move? Small, stereo portable recorder recomendations? Or someting like Apogee Jam into iphone?
What are your suggestions?
You cannot sample through USB cable as far as I know. Use the line in instead
You can have midi via USB but you need two cables like this https://www.thomann.de/fr/esi_midimate_ex.htm
There is unfortunately only one channel and you have to manually select the direction (in or out). MIDI is not very good so far. I hope it will improve in the future
Here is one of the very best video on Move so far. Very creative and informational, showing the true potential of this wonder
Now just imagine those filters he's using for the drum rack were brought to the front and not hidden away like that.