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My exploration into creativity had been one of the later stages of my life, well into being an adult. As with this forum is mostly iOS mobile music based, I was mostly iOS, iPadOS, macOS based, and while exploring several different creative projects, because of lack of funds, and not knowing any other creatives at first, I learned how to make some covers with Procreate, yanno some art, for this and or that. Because that’s what basically all creatives are essentially forced to do in this economic situation. Look up a YouTube video, find a cheap app, and create some, admittedly, horrible art.
Granted, I wouldn’t trade that experience for anything. I learned a ton about graphic design with that and then moving to affinity later. That’s one part of the journey to me. Like understanding different avenues of the creative exploration.
I did mention in an earlier comment that I’m surprised that a barter system hadn’t presented itself. IE you need art for a song, I need music for a video, and so on. I think that would be cool.
Even without that with social media, forums, the internet as a whole, reaching out to other creatives and asking has never been easier. Though it’s far harder than to go to an AI application. I understand that.
I don’t deny that I probably come across a bit over-zealous on my stance on AI and the soul destroying part. I mean it more so creatively to be clear. Like we are all still human, but the creative part of the soul, like you said, gives me satisfaction and I’m going to protect that always and wish others could see that for themselves.
How often is ChatGPT correct on this for your programs? Is the first question I would think of yanno.. and also I think that if you can run a local ai to your system to use for your own search engine is kinda cool and is the least harmful way of using ai in general. This isn’t the generative product that I have a major issue with. Frankly having a go-to coding teacher, writer, or editor without having to bother anyone, while solitary, is helpful in many situations.
See so this is the fundamental distinction where we divide. I don’t mind being shit at anything, if I’m learning to be better. The act of creating is the process to which I love for my own self. Learning to be better is part of the pursuit to creativity to me.
Ending projects or getting to the final stages to me is, almost depressing. Like I don’t have this to go to anymore, and what’s next? I also believe that humans as a whole have a limited amount of truly amazing things we all can create. There’s plenty of proof in the long careers of many artists of all types to back that up.
If I could afford to pay an artist on a project, or trade work for work, I would do so without any misgivings. I do understand that it’s easier to use these AI tools then go through this effort.
Judgement doesn’t really affect those who don’t have any qualms with what they’re being judged on if they see no issues inherently with what they’re doing.
Maybe it’s viewed as zealous, my comments, while I can recognize a creative is using these tools to create their own unique ideas without getting bogged down with the other facets of a project they aren’t interested in, I would tip them a tiny bit more to the cynical side rather than the well reasoned side.
More than fair enough. I do wonder about maybe your understanding of why I made those statements about AI.
As in the morality of it, the stolen art without credit or payment, the future economy of creative fields, job markets, environmentally, misinformation, and so on. There’s tons of information that points to AI being just objectively bad as a whole for the creative community writ large.
I just can’t fathom a person creating any amount of art knowing about any of this, and just being okay with it. AI as a whole is fundamentally antagonistic against the act of people being able to create. It seems very solitary and creativity should shared, imo.
I suppose my cynicism has warned in these later in life years, I seem to have become some sort of romantic to the act of creating. Foolish, I imagine.
I didn’t expect to respond as much or to as many people but it is what it is. Best wishes.
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Which is worse? That or the videos where the creator makes a stupid face to get more clicks?
I honestly don't know. But I lean toward the stupid faces as being worse. 😂
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A human at least told the other human “I’ll give you money to feed your family if you make stupid faces with my product”
AI is offering you rosebuds.
That annoys the hell out of me too. I don't know which is worse, realizing that a friend or loved one really trusts that output without checking, or realizing that they think I'm the kind of person that would. Or realizing that they can't be bothered to provide actual source material when they're telling me I'm wrong about something.
A forum member recently did just that via PM over some trivial point in a thread. What really bugged me is this person is probably a lot more intelligent than I am. It was insulting in some way I can't quite put my finger on. I determined in under two seconds that I was done with the conversation.
You can ask ChatGPT to provide links to sources. In the rare times I use it, I use it as a more efficient search engine, but then take the time to go to sources and make up my own mind. I start from the stand of skeptisim no matter the source too. It's just the way I'm wired.
Very few are concerned about how the sausage is made, well until the time nears that they will become the sausage.
That sums it up perfectly @knewspeak 👍
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Except with generative art/music/what have you, everyone will be making the sausage.
Nobody cares if you use AI if you can use it the way that nobody finds it was actually used.
Which vast majority of people can't do, because it is really not easy and it is form of art itself :-)
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Do we need a "Nobody cares what you think of people using AI" thread?
(Sorry. I'm bored this morning.)
Haha.
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Or just "Nobody cares what you think." 😂
That would be a great name for the forum.
This is a point of curiosity for me. What is it that draws the distinction between a GPT and a "generative" product? In either case, the fundamentals are the same:
There is no major high-level difference between a model that synthesizes text output in response to a prompt and one that synthesizes an image in response to a prompt. Despite that, I have noticed a skewed reception to text generation vs. what is commonly considered artistic generation. Not just here, but in general. And, to be sure, there are plenty of people who have no love for GPTs either.
I understand this thread is getting contentious, but I'm asking because I am really interested to understand. I think that writing is also a creative act, and I'm curious why generating an image is seen as more damaging than generating a piece of written work.
I have been running local models at home for a little while, and I agree that having a local search engine on my computer is pretty awesome. I also understand and agree on most points regarding the implications to creativity. My personal take is that this is a point of divergence between art and business, and likely an irreversible one.
I mean fundamentally you’re aware that how much power a picture holds over text, right? A picture tells a thousand words?
All in all I’ve only said that I’ve been okay with that because it’s the oldest of the technologies, by several years, and is the lesser evil of the lot. I feel like you should be well aware of how the real world works to some degree, to break it down like a dev (I know that you made mass) is borderline pedantic. I’m not trying to be rude, but really? Explaining the tech stack? C’mon.
You sound like an AI here. Like reread that, and objectively, does this sound at all like a human with a soul? I believe you wrote it. But you’re coming at this in the most tech brain style possible. It’s utterly devoid of any empathy, it almost sounds like a line from Spock on Star Trek.
Again, I’m really not trying to be rude, but really? I’ve read other posts by you and I don’t recall them being written as such.
Generative text isn’t being used to nudify minors. AI, and their models, are.
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That’s one of the many issues I have with that. I don’t feel the need to post a bunch of articles showing why I believe what I believe overall about AI, that’s just one that recently bothered me even more so. Plus we both know that they get ignored, or not read. So what’s the point
We live in an age of disinformation, misinformation, and one where the vast majority of people do not read, they scroll and see things and repeat and believe them. I shouldn’t have to tell you, a human being, why text is vastly less concerning than the image generators and the video ones. You should know why they are. I know you know why they’re vastly different. At least I hope so.
Writing is a creative act, and many cases of generative AI being used to pump tons of trash misinformation, and blatant lies is a major issue. Aside from the fact that I’m more than sure that you can, while stepping back, understand that images will hold a power over public sway, far more than text in this day and age, this thread turned into an image generation topic because of album covers. Because this is a music based forum.
If anything, the earlier comments I made was trying to rationally find a middle ground, but I realize that just furthers confusion somehow, as you’ve laid out, potentially in an earnest way, though, I can’t say one person on this thread has done so in any way, been earnest that is. Which is fine. It’s all good.
I don’t think there’s a positive to any generative ai. I don’t, at all. Furthermore, I regret my earlier comments trying to find middle ground and causing any confusion.
I find the act writing, rewriting, drawing, editing, creating music, all of it, to be the pinnacle of the human expressive experience and the most genuinely gratifying feeling that one can feel if they give themselves the grace and have the ability to do so.
I think that using AI robs creators of the act of creating. Full stop.
I agree with you. It’s likely irreversible. I’ve tried local models to understand it better and it’s often just not great. An anecdote - I just had my roommate type in on Apple Intelligence in their Mac in Image Playground “sleepy sloth” for several attempts. None of the sloths were sleeping. Like what are we even doing? It’s all trash. It’s not good. Even if you’re a good prompter, what’s the point? What’s the expression? I’ll ask again, what are we doing here?
If everyone here wants to use AI on their works, go for it, I’m just blatantly saying that it will put into question anything you create. Yeah the majority of people don’t care, I’m not sure I would want to attract those fickle people towards my creativity, but hey, different strokes and all.
Well, sometimes i feel like at current stage of humanity nobody cares what other people think.
This changes very soon.. did you saw this ? It allows run powerfull generative models locally.
I give it maybe 3-4 years and this kind of power will be inside your phone (or you will run personal LLM server like that one bellow and your phone will be remotelly connect to it using API - which is basically doable already now).
https://blogs.nvidia.com/blog/jetson-generative-ai-supercomputer/
Also i see potentialy huge transforation in people running such devides connected via internat into decentralized network capable of run big AGI.. that would be endgame .. Same way how Bitcoin created unstoppable decentralized hard money, this will create unstoppable decentralized AGI...
Hmm. Glad to know you aren't trying to be rude.
When I get responses like this, it makes me wonder if I've come across as condescending or rude myself. If I have, I apologize.
The bottom line is I don't know what people here do or don't know, and knowledge of how these systems work is what I have to share in this discussion. What seems pedantic to you may be useful information for someone who doesn't already know it. If it's not welcome, I'll take the hint.
I agree with pretty much everything you're saying regarding the output of the AI. You're right that pictures are much easier to weaponize than words. What makes me curious is how we've become so fragmented in our knowledge, and to be honest that is the thing that truly scares me about AI. In my observation, we see text-to-text, text-to-image, text-to-video, text-to-audio, and so on as being distinct from each other. In terms of their output they are, but in terms of what they are, they are fundamentally the same. To me, this lack of understanding is one vector through which we're going to lose control of it.
Where I think that relates to this thread and this larger forum of music creators is this: We seem to be OK with some things, and attack other things. If those things are built on the same general framework, where does that gray area come from? This is an all-or-nothing technology, in my opinion. I'm not calling you out for this, in fact you've made it clear you are uncommonly uniform in your feelings. But, it's something I see all over the internet and in the workplace.
I understand you are concerned with the loss of creativity and the sadness that brings. I am truly with you on that, while also being grateful that I'm still able to create for the joy of creating with as little "help" as I choose. That said, I'm a very technically-minded person, which you've been kind enough to point out, and I am equally concerned with our loss of knowledge and the sadness that brings for me.
Yes, you nailed it. This is happening! The $20/month internet-only era of ChatGPT will be seen in a few years as the tip of the iceberg. You can setup these local and decentralized networks already, and the next few years are going to be wild. However we feel about the consequences, we're all going on the ride now.
Also, Nvidia had another bombshell at CES:
https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/project-digits/
Or just the whole internet 😅
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i literally couldn’t care less about this , but since this temperature is continuing to rise, I’m going to issue a blanket statement/warning/however you want to take it, but let’s not let intelligence masque our emotional intent when posting clearly provocative messages, and if it continues here (or anywhere else) , threads that incite enough protest, flags, and outrage from other offended members or users will just be closed and messages will be edited accordingly: politics, religion and personal etc won’t be tolerated anymore in 2025 on…so please keep that in mind when engaging with someone you really know you should just ignore or not reply to
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For those who are following NVIDIA and those interested in what is coming next, this is an interesting watch. It’s the CES keynote presentation from the CEO:
https://www.youtube.com/live/k82RwXqZHY8?si=2zZxBYV3-SsVb83d
Respectfully, this is not the way to foster collegial conversation.
Noted (respectfully)
Catching up on posts (it’s been a snowy winter so far…). Been learning a ton of new things, which has been awesome and overwhelming in equal measure.
The goal of this thread is to spark a conversation: Do people really care how a creative piece of work is made?
Here’s the thing—I’ve been using AI to organize my thoughts lately, and as an overthinker, it’s been a game-changer. I tend to dive into every angle of a topic, overanalyzing to the point where the core message gets lost in the noise. Tossing detailed prompts into tools like ChatGPT has helped me cut through the clutter, weighing the pros and cons without drowning in details.
Honestly, I’m thankful tools like this exist. Moving between fields is no joke. There’s this weight of knowledge to catch up on, and it’s not easy to navigate. Even with 15+ years of experience playing in bands and an engineering background, it still took me 2-3 years to find my footing in music production. Why? Because there were too many starting points, too many opinions on the “right way” to approach it, and none of it was tailored to where I actually was in my journey.
Now? I’ve embraced AI tools for more than just text. Image and video generation? Absolutely. I can visualize concepts, combine media, and build ideas without spending years drowning in tutorials. It’s like having a creative partner that speeds up the process without compromising the vision.
And as for the whole “AI overlord” conspiracy? I’m not losing sleep over it. Are there multiple entities watching our every move? Sure—several, in fact 😂. But when ChatGPT hit the scene, it shook things up in a way that forced competition to evolve. Microsoft teamed up with OpenAI for Copilot, Google rolled out Bard/Gemini, Apple held back (classic Apple move), and a wave of open-source alternatives emerged.
It reminds me of industrial robotics—same story, different industry. You’ve got the giants like KUKA, Fanuc, and Universal Robots, alongside budget-friendly competitors from places like China that can deliver similar results.
The playing field keeps shifting, but at the end of the day, it’s about how you adapt. And maybe that’s what creativity is all about—using what’s available to bring your ideas to life in ways that feel right for you.
Sadly, it seems that humanity caring about people even stops short of the thinking part.
We have to go back further than AI for the origins of that. It feels like the emergence of the Internet accelerated things enormously. I feel like it started back with media saturation numbing us to tragedy. But the de-personalization of internet communications has to be a huge factor as well.
It makes me think of the vast difference between how people think of and treat others when driving vs. how they would treat others in the line at the grocery store. (Though that's changing too.)
Also, I'll take the opportunity to apologize to anyone who was put off by my attempts to lighten the mood. I forget that people impassioned about a subject understandably see that only as insulting and/or trivializing a conversation.
Good to see some bickering and name calling back on the Forum. I was starting to think that the "Other" section had gone soft...