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Cubasis 3.7 & Iconica Sketch for iPhone, iPad and Every AU-compatible DAW Are Here!

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  • wimwim
    edited December 2024

    mfxConvert an AUv3 plugin that is point and click to remap as well. It's $2.99 and would do the same as Streambyter without coding.

    The one line of streambyter code would be:

    BX 00 = BX 01
    
  • @Gravitas said:
    Has anyone tried loading up more than 15 instances of Iconica Sketch?

    At the time of making this video the big demo featured 22 instances and I’m still adding. DSP hanging around at approx 15%

  • @jwmmakerofmusic said:
    @LFS So, a client wanted me to create something dark and forboding - a cross between Ambient, with a simple soft beat, and orchestral elements. Iconica Sketch couldn't have been released at a more opportune time. I decided to go with that as opposed to KAPro Orchestral Dreams in Module Pro, and programming key articulations and swells via mod wheel is proving to be extremely useful to adding to the atmosphere! 😃

    I'm using Nanostudio 2 for this task (I originally built the mockup in Nanostudio 2), and Iconica works very smoothly. It's not quite the integration as you would get in Cubasis 3.7, but that's okay. Cubasis 3.7 will be used for my next Ambient experiment.

    Glad to read that Iconica sketch worked very smoothly in Nanostudio 2, @jwmmakerofmusic!
    Enjoy using Cubasis 3.7 for your next Ambient experiment!

    Best,
    Lars

  • @Jamie_Mallender said:

    @Gravitas said:
    Has anyone tried loading up more than 15 instances of Iconica Sketch?

    At the time of making this video the big demo featured 22 instances and I’m still adding. DSP hanging around at approx 15%

    Thank you.

    Reason why I was asking is because I cannot load up more than 15 instances
    on my side of things bearing in mind that I am using an Air 3.

  • @Gravitas said:

    @Jamie_Mallender said:

    @Gravitas said:
    Has anyone tried loading up more than 15 instances of Iconica Sketch?

    At the time of making this video the big demo featured 22 instances and I’m still adding. DSP hanging around at approx 15%

    Thank you.

    Reason why I was asking is because I cannot load up more than 15 instances
    on my side of things bearing in mind that I am using an Air 3.

    You needs to upgrade son
    We talked about this
    Get yourself that m1 air bro
    And one shot !!!
    Lmao
    (Ofc jk, but you def do kinda need a upgrade, and me and Jamie using the m1 without any slowdown at all, like running smooth like a champ)

  • @yellow_eyez said:

    @Gravitas said:

    @Jamie_Mallender said:

    @Gravitas said:
    Has anyone tried loading up more than 15 instances of Iconica Sketch?

    At the time of making this video the big demo featured 22 instances and I’m still adding. DSP hanging around at approx 15%

    Thank you.

    Reason why I was asking is because I cannot load up more than 15 instances
    on my side of things bearing in mind that I am using an Air 3.

    You needs to upgrade son
    We talked about this
    Get yourself that m1 air bro
    And one shot !!!
    Lmao
    (Ofc jk, but you def do kinda need a upgrade, and me and Jamie using the m1 without any slowdown at all, like running smooth like a champ)

    Agreed for sure in regards to the upgrade however that will come in time.
    No rush.
    I think my aged Air3 sounds alright. ;)

  • edited December 2024

    I love the Air 3 - I still have it too. It’s a great machine man. (But its at the limits, i only got the air m1 for logic, which i ended up not using)

  • @yellow_eyez said:
    I love the Air 3 - I still have it too. It’s a great machine man. (But its at the limits, i only got the air m1 for logic, which i ended up not using)

    Agreed mine is at it's limits.
    Mine is starting to create it's own dimensional time portal to escape from my cpu intensive demands.

    However back on track, can you try loading up more then 15 instances on your Air 3 when you've got the time and space?

  • I will try this weekend - I’ll delete some stuff and download/install it - just for you ;)

  • @yellow_eyez said:
    I will try this weekend - I’ll delete some stuff and download/install it - just for you ;)

    Thank you very much. :)

    🙏🏾

  • heshes
    edited December 2024

    @Gravitas said:
    Has anyone tried loading up more than 15 instances of Iconica Sketch?

    Just double checking. Are you loading them as AUv3 plugins? Or are you loading them from the Cubasis-integrated install? @Jamie_Mallender has confirmed that the integrated install allows running more instances.

  • @hes said:

    @Gravitas said:
    Has anyone tried loading up more than 15 instances of Iconica Sketch?

    Just double checking. Are you loading them as AUv3 plugins? Or are you loading them from the Cubasis-integrated install? @Jamie_Mallender has confirmed that the integrated install allows running more instances.

    This is in dRambo as auv3's.
    I'm going to try in AUM as well as I use both for composition.

    I haven't tested Cubasis 3 yet.

  • heshes
    edited December 2024

    @Gravitas said:

    @hes said:

    @Gravitas said:
    Has anyone tried loading up more than 15 instances of Iconica Sketch?

    Just double checking. Are you loading them as AUv3 plugins? Or are you loading them from the Cubasis-integrated install? @Jamie_Mallender has confirmed that the integrated install allows running more instances.

    This is in dRambo as auv3's.
    I'm going to try in AUM as well as I use both for composition.

    I haven't tested Cubasis 3 yet.

    Cubasis 3 supports multicore audio, so should be able to load more AUv3 than either Drambo or AUM. And with the integrated Iconica Sketch install you should be able to get even more than with plain AUv3s.

  • @hes said:

    @Gravitas said:

    @hes said:

    @Gravitas said:
    Has anyone tried loading up more than 15 instances of Iconica Sketch?

    Just double checking. Are you loading them as AUv3 plugins? Or are you loading them from the Cubasis-integrated install? @Jamie_Mallender has confirmed that the integrated install allows running more instances.

    This is in dRambo as auv3's.
    I'm going to try in AUM as well as I use both for composition.

    I haven't tested Cubasis 3 yet.

    Cubasis 3 supports multicore audio, so should be able to load more AUv3 than either Drambo or AUM. And with the integrated Iconica Sketch install you should be able to get even more than with plain AUv3s.

    That I'm aware of, I've been reading what Lars has been posting up
    however not everyone is using Cubasis 3 (though I do have Cubasis 3)
    and if the limitation is less than 15 instances of Iconica Sketch then
    I know how many instances I can have instantiated when needed
    without getting an error message or crash.

  • @LFS said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:
    @LFS So, a client wanted me to create something dark and forboding - a cross between Ambient, with a simple soft beat, and orchestral elements. Iconica Sketch couldn't have been released at a more opportune time. I decided to go with that as opposed to KAPro Orchestral Dreams in Module Pro, and programming key articulations and swells via mod wheel is proving to be extremely useful to adding to the atmosphere! 😃

    I'm using Nanostudio 2 for this task (I originally built the mockup in Nanostudio 2), and Iconica works very smoothly. It's not quite the integration as you would get in Cubasis 3.7, but that's okay. Cubasis 3.7 will be used for my next Ambient experiment.

    Glad to read that Iconica sketch worked very smoothly in Nanostudio 2, @jwmmakerofmusic!
    Enjoy using Cubasis 3.7 for your next Ambient experiment!

    Best,
    Lars

    You got it, my friend. :) Thank you always for these stellar updates. My only remaining feature request is something like Groove Agent. Would be quite nice indeed. :)

  • @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    @LFS said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:
    @LFS So, a client wanted me to create something dark and forboding - a cross between Ambient, with a simple soft beat, and orchestral elements. Iconica Sketch couldn't have been released at a more opportune time. I decided to go with that as opposed to KAPro Orchestral Dreams in Module Pro, and programming key articulations and swells via mod wheel is proving to be extremely useful to adding to the atmosphere! 😃

    I'm using Nanostudio 2 for this task (I originally built the mockup in Nanostudio 2), and Iconica works very smoothly. It's not quite the integration as you would get in Cubasis 3.7, but that's okay. Cubasis 3.7 will be used for my next Ambient experiment.

    Glad to read that Iconica sketch worked very smoothly in Nanostudio 2, @jwmmakerofmusic!
    Enjoy using Cubasis 3.7 for your next Ambient experiment!

    Best,
    Lars

    You got it, my friend. :) Thank you always for these stellar updates. My only remaining feature request is something like Groove Agent. Would be quite nice indeed. :)

    Indeed !

  • edited December 2024

    @HarlekinX said:
    @LFS Thanks for the clarification. This was to be expected.
    I really would like to have the full 4.6 GB package on my iPad.
    I see two reasons for the big reduction. First, many people do not have that much space on their iDevices and second, we pay only about a fifth of the VST price.
    Both are legitimate factors.
    If it is the first, make it optional to select the smaller or bigger version.
    But if it is the price ... then there is a way to make everybody happy while you could also earn more money.

    Here is the idea:

    • In the settings, add an option to log in to my Steinberg Account
    • If I own the VST version of Iconica Sketch, give me the option to download the whole 4.6 GB package
    • Don't promote this in the app. So no buyer will have the bad feeling to have to pay more to not miss out. Most users will be happy with what the app offers.
    • Don't promote this on the app webpage
    • But do promote this on the VST page, so VST users see this as a nice extra.

    This would also be an option to bring other big Steinberg libraries to iOS. On one side, a curated selection of great instruments for a great price, on the other side, the full library when you pay the full price and have the capacity on your device.

    This will also strengthen the bond with your customers. Think about professional users that can also use their bought VST instruments on the iPad to sketch or fully create on the couch.

    And it can bring new customers.
    Some months ago I bought the Pianoteq Studio Package for almost 1000 bucks.
    I would never have done this if the iPad app didn't exist or the iPad version was watered down.
    Now I can plug my iPad to my Piano and play, or use it in Logic Pro for iPad (sorry) or Logic on Mac (sorry)

    Companies should not see the iPad as a toy. My latest iPad is now more powerful (thermals aside) than my still powerful Mac.

    My apologies for all that text, but i really want parity between iOS and macOS so I am free to use whatever i want, whenever I want. And I really like Iconica Sketch.

    this would be the fastest way for me to never support this company with my money ever again.

    You’re suggesting they give more juice to a secret fan club and don’t talk to us about it because we didn’t pay enough? That’s your idea of attaining parity? Rotten shot.

    imo video games have this covered already, pick what you want to download, don't gimp people with storage and power available just because you want 64gb owners to breathe a little. They already have all the samples on desktop, half of our ipads have more power than most the macs alive today, let us use that power without a bunch of fucking loopholes and extra added cost

  • edited December 2024

    @Goldiblockz said:

    @HarlekinX said:
    @LFS Thanks for the clarification. This was to be expected.
    I really would like to have the full 4.6 GB package on my iPad.
    I see two reasons for the big reduction. First, many people do not have that much space on their iDevices and second, we pay only about a fifth of the VST price.
    Both are legitimate factors.
    If it is the first, make it optional to select the smaller or bigger version.
    But if it is the price ... then there is a way to make everybody happy while you could also earn more money.

    Here is the idea:

    • In the settings, add an option to log in to my Steinberg Account
    • If I own the VST version of Iconica Sketch, give me the option to download the whole 4.6 GB package
    • Don't promote this in the app. So no buyer will have the bad feeling to have to pay more to not miss out. Most users will be happy with what the app offers.
    • Don't promote this on the app webpage
    • But do promote this on the VST page, so VST users see this as a nice extra.

    This would also be an option to bring other big Steinberg libraries to iOS. On one side, a curated selection of great instruments for a great price, on the other side, the full library when you pay the full price and have the capacity on your device.

    This will also strengthen the bond with your customers. Think about professional users that can also use their bought VST instruments on the iPad to sketch or fully create on the couch.

    And it can bring new customers.
    Some months ago I bought the Pianoteq Studio Package for almost 1000 bucks.
    I would never have done this if the iPad app didn't exist or the iPad version was watered down.
    Now I can plug my iPad to my Piano and play, or use it in Logic Pro for iPad (sorry) or Logic on Mac (sorry)

    Companies should not see the iPad as a toy. My latest iPad is now more powerful (thermals aside) than my still powerful Mac.

    My apologies for all that text, but i really want parity between iOS and macOS so I am free to use whatever i want, whenever I want. And I really like Iconica Sketch.

    this would be the fastest way for me to never support this company with my money ever again.

    You’re suggesting they give more juice to a secret fan club and don’t talk to us about it because we didn’t pay enough? That’s your idea of attaining parity? Rotten shot.

    imo video games have this covered already, pick what you want to download, don't gimp people with storage and power available just because you want 64gb owners to breathe a little. They already have all the samples on desktop, half of our ipads have more power than most the macs alive today, let us use that power without a bunch of fucking loopholes and extra added cost

    Good call. It's nice they have the option for a smaller download, but it really should just be an option. Why not let us have the whole enchilada as well? And I also agree that it doesn't need to be hidden behind the VST paywall.

  • edited December 2024

    @Goldiblockz said:

    @HarlekinX said:
    @LFS Thanks for the clarification. This was to be expected.
    I really would like to have the full 4.6 GB package on my iPad.
    I see two reasons for the big reduction. First, many people do not have that much space on their iDevices and second, we pay only about a fifth of the VST price.
    Both are legitimate factors.
    If it is the first, make it optional to select the smaller or bigger version.
    But if it is the price ... then there is a way to make everybody happy while you could also earn more money.

    Here is the idea:

    • In the settings, add an option to log in to my Steinberg Account
    • If I own the VST version of Iconica Sketch, give me the option to download the whole 4.6 GB package
    • Don't promote this in the app. So no buyer will have the bad feeling to have to pay more to not miss out. Most users will be happy with what the app offers.
    • Don't promote this on the app webpage
    • But do promote this on the VST page, so VST users see this as a nice extra.

    This would also be an option to bring other big Steinberg libraries to iOS. On one side, a curated selection of great instruments for a great price, on the other side, the full library when you pay the full price and have the capacity on your device.

    This will also strengthen the bond with your customers. Think about professional users that can also use their bought VST instruments on the iPad to sketch or fully create on the couch.

    And it can bring new customers.
    Some months ago I bought the Pianoteq Studio Package for almost 1000 bucks.
    I would never have done this if the iPad app didn't exist or the iPad version was watered down.
    Now I can plug my iPad to my Piano and play, or use it in Logic Pro for iPad (sorry) or Logic on Mac (sorry)

    Companies should not see the iPad as a toy. My latest iPad is now more powerful (thermals aside) than my still powerful Mac.

    My apologies for all that text, but i really want parity between iOS and macOS so I am free to use whatever i want, whenever I want. And I really like Iconica Sketch.

    this would be the fastest way for me to never support this company with my money ever again.

    You’re suggesting they give more juice to a secret fan club and don’t talk to us about it because we didn’t pay enough? That’s your idea of attaining parity? Rotten shot.

    imo video games have this covered already, pick what you want to download, don't gimp people with storage and power available just because you want 64gb owners to breathe a little. They already have all the samples on desktop, half of our ipads have more power than most the macs alive today, let us use that power without a bunch of fucking loopholes and extra added cost

    Interesting viewpoint.

    Let me ask you a question, assuming that you have purchased Iconica Sketch for iPad.
    Would you have paid 120 bucks for it? On iPad? Maybe when it would be a, buy once, use it everywhere?
    I don't think so.
    But this is the actual price of it.

    We iPad user have a privilege in the music realm.
    We get a lot of great instruments for "dirt cheap" compared to computer musicians.
    If it is a stripped down version, Ok, understandable. But if it is the same?

    It shows that not a lot of people are willing to pay the full price on iPad provided that it is the full app.
    And this is a problem that many developers have, when bringing their apps to the iPad.
    You have to reduce the price, or not many will buy it. But when you do this, you could hurt your sales or the development costs don't pay off.
    There are many different approaches to handle this, and every developer has to find its way.
    It also depends on whether you are a solo developer or a big company with lots of salary to pay.
    Many just don't bother and ignore the iPad because it is "not worth it".
    In the end, it's complicated.

    I believe my idea is good.
    Not promoting that you get "higher resolution" files when you own the VST is not about hiding something but simply because of psychology.
    When i buy an app, and after starting it, there would be an info that i can have better quality when i pay extra, that would make even me angry. Or maybe sad, because i don't have the money.
    But simply allowing parity when i'm the owner of the full price app? Thats a good move in my opinion.

    Maybe you think i'm rich because of "latest iPad" and "1000 bucks for Pianoteq", but no. I didn't think, oh that piano app sounds nice, here, take the money. No, i thought a long time about it, it is a crazy amount of money, and i had to pay it off over several months. There are many great sample based piano apps that are more than enough for most. But I play piano and adore the sound of a piano. And i think Pianoteq is the best you can get. So it is worth it, for ME.

    I also absolutely love orchestral sounds, but am I willing to shell out 1500 for the whole SWAM package on Mac and additional about 500 for the iPad versions? No. It is not worth it for ME .. yet.

    As a summary, yes, i would also prefer to pay less and get it all.
    But I live in reality, where bills and salaries have to be paid.
    And I rather would prefer to have the option to get the best on iPad, than to have no option at all.
    And if Steinberg did reduce the library because of the often limited space on iPads and iPhones, they would already have integrated an option to choose sizes.
    Therefore I assume, it is the price. And that's legitimate.

  • If you get Cubasis 3 + all IAP on sale it’s like $125 or so? To own the best stuff on iOS , it’s a no brainer

    …and so is Iconica, especially if you own and use Cubasis 3, it’s only rival is spending hundreds on Swam, but I rather have this 10/10 Sketch, but right now, everything Cubasis 3 is worth it.

  • @Jamie_Mallender said:

    @Gravitas said:
    Has anyone tried loading up more than 15 instances of Iconica Sketch?

    At the time of making this video the big demo featured 22 instances and I’m still adding. DSP hanging around at approx 15%

    That sounds good.
    What ipad are you on if you don't mind me asking?

  • I’ve just picked up iconica sketch. Looking forward to having a play around over Christmas.

  • does anyone know. is there a slide articulations on any of the trombone patches?

  • edited December 2024

    @ecou said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    @LFS said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:
    @LFS So, a client wanted me to create something dark and forboding - a cross between Ambient, with a simple soft beat, and orchestral elements. Iconica Sketch couldn't have been released at a more opportune time. I decided to go with that as opposed to KAPro Orchestral Dreams in Module Pro, and programming key articulations and swells via mod wheel is proving to be extremely useful to adding to the atmosphere! 😃

    I'm using Nanostudio 2 for this task (I originally built the mockup in Nanostudio 2), and Iconica works very smoothly. It's not quite the integration as you would get in Cubasis 3.7, but that's okay. Cubasis 3.7 will be used for my next Ambient experiment.

    Glad to read that Iconica sketch worked very smoothly in Nanostudio 2, @jwmmakerofmusic!
    Enjoy using Cubasis 3.7 for your next Ambient experiment!

    Best,
    Lars

    You got it, my friend. :) Thank you always for these stellar updates. My only remaining feature request is something like Groove Agent. Would be quite nice indeed. :)

    Indeed !

    @yellow_eyez said:
    If you get Cubasis 3 + all IAP on sale it’s like $125 or so? To own the best stuff on iOS , it’s a no brainer

    …and so is Iconica, especially if you own and use Cubasis 3, it’s only rival is spending hundreds on Swam, but I rather have this 10/10 Sketch, but right now, everything Cubasis 3 is worth it.

    Xinematix would like to have a very large argument with Iconica for a similar price, with no libraries missing samples or BS to jump through or arguing over if you should allow external storage or not like it's the 90s.

    That's what I'm making my comparison to. Another sample based orchestral instrument app, that costs $20-30 to unlock. With many more features and sounds. And imo, sounds just as good if not better, from a much smaller company.

    This conversation about how to manage VST/iPad parity under Steinburg of all companies, has me regretting my purchase and I'll be asking for a refund.

  • (For sure, you have every right to your opinion and I don’t discourage anyone who is disappointed to not go for their money back if that’s what they want. )

  • LFSLFS
    edited December 2024

    @AnalogMatthew said:

    @LFS said:
    Dear all,

    Hopefully you are all well.

    Today we’re very glad to announce the release of Cubasis 3.7, which brings the long-awaited tempo and signature track support that allows you to create more dynamic, flexible, and expressive compositions with ease, alongside other new features and improvements, making Cubasis more powerful and intuitive than ever.

    But wait, there’s more!

    We’re also delighted to debut Iconica Sketch, our very first standalone orchestral instrument app available for iPhone, iPad, and every AU-compatible DAW*. Iconica Sketch brings the lush sound of orchestral instruments to your mobile workflow, empowering you to compose, arrange, and produce stunning scores wherever inspiration strikes.

    Hey Lars!
    Congrats on the release. Flattered to see you used my UI controls for the app! 🙏
    Did you use any other components of AudioKit, or just the code for the UI?

    Very cool to see!
    – Matthew from AudioKit

    Hi Matthew,

    Thanks for your kind feedback!

    Indeed, the keyboard UI was based on AudioKit's Keyboard, but modified and optimized for Iconica Sketch by our engineering. Apart from this, Iconica Sketch does note use AudioKit or AudioKit UI.

    Hope you're well!

    Warm greetings
    & stay safe,
    Lars

  • @Wyvern said:
    I’ve just picked up iconica sketch. Looking forward to having a play around over Christmas.

    We hope you will enjoy using Iconica Sketch, @Wyvern!

    Best,
    Lars

  • Can anyone provide their opinion regarding the instrument quality of Iconica Sketch compared to XinematiX (or the free instrument libraries available in AudioLayer)?

  • @jamietopol said:
    Can anyone provide their opinion regarding the instrument quality of Iconica Sketch compared to XinematiX (or the free instrument libraries available in AudioLayer)?

    Yup.
    If it's an either or then get Xinematix.
    The palette with Xinematic is really nice combined with the free libraries from Audiolayer.
    With carefully preset creating you can get some really nice articulation going.
    Iconica is good for stock string sounds and because of the way the samples
    have been recorded it sounds even better when using it for a "traditional" sounding arrangements.
    When it starts getting into a contemporary mix then you realise how much hall sound is actually there
    and though Iconica has attack and release, the release doesn't shorten the sound enough for my taste
    however combined with Xinematix and other string sounds they sing quite nicely.

    Quality wise both have their strong points and weak points.
    So far I've been playing with Iconica Sketch alongside Korg Module and Xinematix and I'm happy with my purchase.
    It's really cool for big bombastic arranging.
    Subtle stuff is when you need something like Xinematix or going up Staffpad etc.

  • @Gravitas (or anyone else) do you have the latest Toneboosters EQ? I was wondering if its transient shaping and room ambience filters could do some magic in reducing the Iconica hall sound when desired.

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