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That is definitely not easy, as long as you don't update Apps on your device at all!
If I don't update for a few days, I have something between 40 and 80 updates rolling in - making sure exactly 8 of them don't get updated is nearly impossible!
I don't want to sound harsh, and I know being a developer is a hard job with worse pay than a janitor, BUT: A music app working offline is NOT a FEATURE! 😃
Yes, it's a REQUIREMENT!
I'm just as pissed off by this company policy as most people here in the forum. However, I have always done updates manually without exception, so the apps that are criticized are still the old versions for me.
Apps that have not been updated for a long time collect at the bottom of the list and therefore don't cause me any problems at all, even though some days there is quite a long list of updates. So I can't understand why it should be nearly impossible to keep them free of updates.
that "offline feature" reminds me of how "apple music" treats costumers.
you can download your music for offline listening, but you need to be online all the time for apple to check your subscribtion is still there😂
ridicoulus. so it makes no sense to download your music, exept you got a bad mobile contract for streaming.
I tried to explain.
Maybe you have way less Apps than me?
It was not possible for me ... after some time, be it days, weeks or months, I accidentally updated one of those that I did not want to update.
This simply does not work reliably without some option to disable updates for certain Apps.
I don’t have enough storage available for the apps I own (first world problem, I know…), so I have to swap them around. Romplers tend to take up more space than a standard synth, so they tend to get uninstalled more often.
Meaning I get the latest version when I reinstall, so any shenanigans with the original purchase deal could be an issue.
Looks like the latest two Audiokit apps are still usable for me, and work offline, so I’ll keep those installed just in case they get hit with the subscription hammer.
However, I don’t think I’ll be buying any more in future, the trust has gone.
When posting negative reviews about apps, it's important to be accurate. If these apps that have gone subscription since you purchased them stop functioning for you, that's a serious matter and should be called out specifically in a review. IMO they warrant a complaint about the developer to Apple as well as it appears to be a violation of App Store policy.
However, if the apps still function for you as they did before they went subscription, then IMO there's no ground for complaint. The developer has every right to try to sell their product as they wish to new purchasers.
If they don't work offline, that's a software defect, and should be called out if the developer doesn't do anything to address the problem after reporting it to them.
FYI, developers can request that Apple take down a review. Apple makes the decision whether to take it down or not.
I doubt Apple spends a lot of time our resources on it, and imagine that it's partially automated. I also cynically suspect they will err on the side of the developer, but have no data to back that up.
Keeping things factual probably helps.
Yep, they seem to be fine, so I won’t post a negative review. I won’t be posting a positive one either, though.
It seems like it would be fair to include one's opinion about whether the app is worth paying a subscription for. I would think potential customers would appreciate that information from someone who has used the app.
I doubt I'll bother personally.
I think I'll put Retro Piano back on my devices as long as it still works for me. They removed the 3rd party tracker. I regretted deleting that one a little.
Digital D1 still has the 3rd party tracker. I liked that one but it's staying off on principle, even though I'm confident that Apple prevents the tracking if you don't grant the right.
It bugs me that I need to keep in the back of my mind that these guys might pull other "Stability improvements and bug fixes" in the future though.
... meh. no. they're gone for good. Moving on.
These apps aren't any more worth expending any negative emotional energy on than they are worth paying a subscription for.
I’d forgotten about the trackers, looks like ‘FM player 2 DX synth’ I re-installed has them.
Deleted.
King of FM is a more than worthy replacement.
I don’t get this 3rd party trackers issue. When I lauch an app the first time that has 3rd party trackers I’m being asked whether I allow trackers or not. I simply choose no.
I can switch trackers on or off in the settings/apps/app menu as well.
Ah I missed that one, free too. Not enough space on my iPad, but installed it on my Mac. I’m not usually a rompler fan, but that one’s got some good quality, useful sounds.
That does not help, when the App simply does not work without Internet access!
Those REQUIRE Internet:
Also, disabling trackers does not guarantee that there is still not something active, at least I understood @wim in this way.
Just so we’re clear…
The company which bought Audiobus from @Michael along with those legacy AudioKit Pro apps from @Matt_Fletcher_2000 is called Space Mushrooms.
https://audiokitpro.com/spacemushrooms/
They had promised not to charge updates to existing users.
Now, SM was co-founded by this dude:
https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrea-terdich-29aa49104/?originalSubdomain=it
… who was a data analyst at Bending Spoons, a company made famous (in some circles) for their role in the fate of companies they bought, especially Evernote.
Also for the sake of clarity…
While it’s possible to avoid updates for apps which have changed in ways which disadvantage, it basically means that these apps are “dead”. It’s the equivalent of abandonware, with the added part on making sure we never click the update button. For those of us who have a lot of apps (my Aube database has 718 AUv3 plugins), that means something significant in terms of cognitive load.
It also tarnishes the brand.
(As a disclaimer: while I work in trademarks, I know nothing about these things.)
So this guy is a "data analyst", which explains the trackers.
Maybe this is not even about the Apps, but some tracking project.
@Audiobus_support Another reason that I find your business practices so frustrating is that you are not being transparent or honest about the changes you are making to existing customers apps because you simply label every update as ‘bug fixing and improvements’. I really hope you reflect on all of the negative feedback you are receiving and drastically change your development decisions going forward.
I suggest that besides posting here, folks should contact them via the gmail account they have mentioned a few times:
[email protected]
Emails may get more attention than posts here.
Normally I agree but in this case I think public is better.
Whether or not people post here, they should be continuing to contact them directly.
No, I’m 99% sure that Apple prevents 3rd party tracking if you disable it. There’s one bit of wording that’s a little ambiguous, but I think the word “ask” taken in context doesn’t mean that the app has a choice to ignore your preferences.
Also, it’s important to note that such tracking is no more harmful than that which goes on with virtually every website we all visit every day. (But such tracking in apps and websites is less anonymous than most people realize.)
Anyway they are gradually removing the 3rd party trackers from the apps.
Interestingly someone posted on Facebook that there’s a connection between the people behind the new Audiobus Pty and Bending Spoons https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bending_Spoons
My one star review disappeared
- for the records it was rather short and without insults… Must be some sort of coincidence!
Sometimes reviews disappear after app updates.
this guys made the italian covid spy app with tax money. no more questions.
Digital D1 and FM Player 2 got "updates".
Both still work without Internet ...
One has a strange menu enabled, I think they made an mistake:
Pressing "Button" gives:
Yeah, they basically accidentally left a huge "debug print" (with "debug button" that does SOMETHING!) in the release version. I don't think I've ever seen this before in decades of software development and exposure...