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If an app is sold to a new owner, don't the NEW owner's policies override prior policies? I would never consider buying any kind of property if I couldn't create my own policies applying to my own property.
In most jurisdictions when you buy a property or business you inherit the contractual arrangements as well. For instance, if you buy a house and someone lives there under a lease, you also are bound for the term of the lease. Basically, you bought the house and the lease as well.
In this case, they bought the app and its obligations under the App Store licensing model. The App Store policies say that developers should not take away functionality that users already paid for, meaning despite the ownership change, they need to grandfather in existing users. (probably)
For new purchasers they sell the app however they like as long as they are within Apple’s guidelines.
Oh ho. That happened, did it?
"Nuke the site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure."
All apps managed by this developer are now deleted.
Apple does not specifically address instances relating to apps which have been acquired by another company or developer, but it does say this:
Source: https://developer.apple.com/app-store/review/guidelines/#subscriptions
If a prior developer couldn't make an app profitable, I think they'd have a good argument with anyone at Apple that the app is essentially broken until and unless they can do whatever it takes to make it profitable.
.> @NeuM said:
An app that isn't profitable isn't "broken". As long as the app functions properly it is fine - profit has nothing to do with it.
What about free apps? No "profit" with them.
Or old apps that sell in very small numbers.
The funny thing is that these guys took some fine, working apps and broke them trying to make a profit...
I can’t get my head around the logic that led you to that interpretation … or what the point is that you're trying to make. But what a couple of clowns like us BS about the subject isn’t worth the bytes takes to store. So I’ll step out now. 😎
Yeah, probably not a good idea to tie that to profitability as that would get messy very quickly.
Unfortunately, as @wim points out, what the buyer inherits is the contractual obligations, but that doesn’t include moral or ethical obligations, and there is usually no recourse to the law to remedy that kind of issue.
Audiobus Pty and all their apps are now free…from my iPad.
It's "broken" for the app owner if they're trying to make money.
Most of the "free" apps on the App Store are supported by ads.
The majority of the music apps this developer has bought have all been superceded by newer versions or technologies. With that in mind, there seems limited opportunity for profit (or perhaps even break even) on them. The early audiokit apps have long had descriptions pointing people to the newer ones, and Audiobus wasn't really "needed" by people since the newer technologies appeared.
From what I understand, there are no staff or overheads to get rid of (if these really are the same people who got Evernote and WhatsApp, that seemed to be the model for those), so I can't see how anyone would expect to suddenly change these apps to be more profitable unless they dramatically enhanced functionality.
What the apps did all come with was good customer bases for recognition and a great legacy on the iOS platform. That would carry power for selling new apps or functionality, providing confidence in the developer. With their actions so far, they seem to have damaged the most important part of the purchase to me.
The app is not broken - their business model is.
In this case they’re bound by the App Store terms and conditions which say a developer can’t take away functionality from existing purchasers when they take an app to subscription.
Which isnt particularly important at this point since they’re making it so that subscription is required only for future buyers.
… not that I think there will be many.
Bomb them with explanatory 1-star reviews. I’ve done several
We don't know their business model, but I think they intend on recouping their investments.
Why?
Audiobus was a tenner, 808 Bass eight quid, VHS synth a fiver etc…. is that not enough?
The hard work has already been done. To increase sales, do some YouTube promos, add some IAP preset packs, or make them more attractive with new free sounds. Like all the other devs do.
No-one with any previous knowledge of the iOS music market is going to pay a three quid a week sub for a basic rompler, not when they can get the whole of Logic for a third of that price.
Madness.
Why not?
They deserve nothing less, or?
This!
I hadn’t put it that way in my head, but that perspective makes the apps look even less appealing than they already did.
This is a case of long time users not liking recent changes to an app. We should express our opinions by reviewing the app. It may inform potential subscribers. On the other hand if everyone is now happy with Audiobus, negative reviews would be uncalled for.
If you’re unhappy with some or all of their apps, send them your criticisms here first. They seem willing to work with users. Many things have already changed.
If your criticisms go unanswered after a while, then an unfavorable App Store review might be warranted.
I’m operating on the assumption that everyone here would rather see these developers become more successful rather than everyone root for their failure.
New VHS synth and retro piano updates…
I hoped they might have decided to give functionality back for previous purchasers but nope, Still locked out in auv3.
@Audiobus_support any news on this issue?
I'm done with them!
Such a behavior is unacceptable in my book.
Even the Apps that work again without Internet are waiting in some loop before they actually work.
I simply hate everything they did to AudioBus and the other Apps.
For me, they are not even interested in offering music App at all!
And the best way to shown this to them is by 1 star ratings and reviews.
That's the only working feedback.
You hate them? Wow. I see no real reason for that.
That's your wording.
I wrote that I hate what they did to Apps!
My guess is most people here now don't care what happens to them - success or fail.
They have wiped out any "good will' the apps had with Forum users.
I haven't gone quite that far yet. They're cleaning up areas which people have had problems and that's a net positive.
Yeah, indifferent to them really. They certainly have endeared themselves to me.
So let me get this "net positive" straight:
Does that about sum it up?
I think I have a bit tighter definition of Net Positive than you do. They haven't even reached net - net yet the way I see it. I believe they may reach net-net, but they have a long way to go to put the bad feelings they've generated among existing customers behind them.
(** They added two types of trackers. One that fits the usage they described, but another on top of that which is specifically meant for providing data to 3rd party web sites and apps.)