Jim Audio Groove Rider 2 - RELEASED

RajahP

@Eschatone said:

@wim said:

@Edo9330 said:
another thing I don't understand is this workflow of having to access the clip menu, hold down and tell it to edit in order to modify it. couldn't it do it automatically, like drambo? if the clip has not been created it creates it automatically, if it has already been created, it modifies the clip of the selected part.

double-tap on a clip opens the editor. A little easier, I guess.
That workflow is not so bad once you get used to it, but really seems like a kludge at first.

certain things seem so little sense to me that without the manual in hand I wonder if I'm missing something.

If your experience is like mine then you certainly are. I think I have most of those uncovered at this point, but you never know what you don't know eh?

(btw, I wonder how many people have noticed the microscopic little > that is next to invisible on the default dark keyboard. It displays pitch and mod wheels and another tiny little hamburger menu for setting keyboard size and scale lock mode. Man, that is some clever hiding of important details right there.)

And i don t under stand how make automation 😅

Move a knob while recording to make a the parameter show up. Then you can edit and draw what you like.
Cubasis pioneered that design gem. I never did like it.

Wow. Lotta sarcasm right now from me. It's good natured on my part, though I'm sure it doesn't come off that way. I'm far more pleased with GR-2 than I expected to be now that I've spent enough time with it.

Also, double tap on empty clip placeholder to make new clip. When in piano roll editor, the menu with 3 lines at the top has useful controls for quickly doubling length of your clip “i.e. Duplicate loop”

There’s a lot of helpful shift functions in the editor: Shift + the velocity slider will stagger the velocity of your selection. (Great for Hihats velocity ramps) .. Shift + move notes/change length will allow you to ignore snap to grid setting. (or it’ll snap to grid if the snap setting is turned off)

That piano roll is begging for midi import (and quantize to scale).. Jim should make it priority..
Managed to get some Lumbeat drum midi in there earlier, it is wild..

Uprightmusic

Is there anything similar to P-Locks in GR2?

Samu

@cuscolima said:

@wim said:

@cuscolima said:
Is Ableton link working for anyone ? I’m stuck here…

Check in device settings that you enabled network permissions. Link won’t work without even on the same device. It works here, but I was careful to answer yes when asked on the first app startup.

Thanks but how can I do that? Where is it on my iPad? If I check GRII on the general Settings, there is nothing like the possibility to turn network permission on or off...

Ableton link works well on all my other apps (AUM, etc) so I don't think it is a global parameter...

Check if GRII is enabled under Privacy & Security under ‘Network’.

Edo9330

@Uprightmusic said:
Is there anything similar to P-Locks in GR2?

not at the moment, but given how the step sequencer was designed, I think it is difficult to implement. It's not a bug but just how it was designed, so I don't know if it will be possible to implement it in the future (yes It Is possibile but a lot of things tò be changed)

I'd like it too, but by pairing gr2 with my Elektron equipment I miss it less, and I take advantage of aspects that I can't find on my hardware equipment.

but my workflow relies a lot, too much, on p lock and I would like to be able to exploit it on this app too

Ps there Is automations, but for me Is not the same that a p lock like in Drambo or Elektron devices

0tolerance4silence

@cuscolima said:

@wim said:

@cuscolima said:
Is Ableton link working for anyone ? I’m stuck here…

Check in device settings that you enabled network permissions. Link won’t work without even on the same device. It works here, but I was careful to answer yes when asked on the first app startup.

Thanks but how can I do that? Where is it on my iPad? If I check GRII on the general Settings, there is nothing like the possibility to turn network permission on or off...

Ableton link works well on all my other apps (AUM, etc) so I don't think it is a global parameter...

Privacy & Security / Local Network
Check if GRII is listed and enabled.

cuscolima

@Samu said:

@cuscolima said:

@wim said:

@cuscolima said:
Is Ableton link working for anyone ? I’m stuck here…

Check in device settings that you enabled network permissions. Link won’t work without even on the same device. It works here, but I was careful to answer yes when asked on the first app startup.

Thanks but how can I do that? Where is it on my iPad? If I check GRII on the general Settings, there is nothing like the possibility to turn network permission on or off...

Ableton link works well on all my other apps (AUM, etc) so I don't think it is a global parameter...

Check if GRII is enabled under Privacy & Security under ‘Network’.

Thanks @Samu @0tolerance4silence
but it is listed and enabled correctly, so there is another problem here...

Samu

@cuscolima said:

@Samu said:

@cuscolima said:

@wim said:

@cuscolima said:
Is Ableton link working for anyone ? I’m stuck here…

Check in device settings that you enabled network permissions. Link won’t work without even on the same device. It works here, but I was careful to answer yes when asked on the first app startup.

Thanks but how can I do that? Where is it on my iPad? If I check GRII on the general Settings, there is nothing like the possibility to turn network permission on or off...

Ableton link works well on all my other apps (AUM, etc) so I don't think it is a global parameter...

Check if GRII is enabled under Privacy & Security under ‘Network’.

Thanks @Samu @0tolerance4silence
but it is listed and enabled correctly, so there is another problem here...

You might also need to enable background play in GRIi so it doesn’t stop the audio when backgrounded when switching to other apps?

11” M1 iPadPro, iPadOS18.3

cuscolima

@Samu said:

@cuscolima said:

@Samu said:

@cuscolima said:

@wim said:

@cuscolima said:
Is Ableton link working for anyone ? I’m stuck here…

Check in device settings that you enabled network permissions. Link won’t work without even on the same device. It works here, but I was careful to answer yes when asked on the first app startup.

Thanks but how can I do that? Where is it on my iPad? If I check GRII on the general Settings, there is nothing like the possibility to turn network permission on or off...

Ableton link works well on all my other apps (AUM, etc) so I don't think it is a global parameter...

Check if GRII is enabled under Privacy & Security under ‘Network’.

Thanks @Samu @0tolerance4silence
but it is listed and enabled correctly, so there is another problem here...

You might also need to enable background play in GRIi so it doesn’t stop the audio when backgrounded when switching to other apps?

11” M1 iPadPro, iPadOS18.3

I see the same as you but when I press "done", the Enabled button turn to gray...

Samu

@cuscolima said:

@Samu said:

@cuscolima said:

@Samu said:

@cuscolima said:

@wim said:

@cuscolima said:
Is Ableton link working for anyone ? I’m stuck here…

Check in device settings that you enabled network permissions. Link won’t work without even on the same device. It works here, but I was careful to answer yes when asked on the first app startup.

Thanks but how can I do that? Where is it on my iPad? If I check GRII on the general Settings, there is nothing like the possibility to turn network permission on or off...

Ableton link works well on all my other apps (AUM, etc) so I don't think it is a global parameter...

Check if GRII is enabled under Privacy & Security under ‘Network’.

Thanks @Samu @0tolerance4silence
but it is listed and enabled correctly, so there is another problem here...

You might also need to enable background play in GRIi so it doesn’t stop the audio when backgrounded when switching to other apps?

11” M1 iPadPro, iPadOS18.3

I see the same as you but when I press "done", the Enabled button turn to gray...

As long as it says enabled the color doesn’t really matter as long as background audio is also on
Just tested with AUM, GRII, Gadet and Logic on the Mac and it works as expected.

0tolerance4silence

@cuscolima said:

@Samu said:

@cuscolima said:

@Samu said:

@cuscolima said:

@wim said:

@cuscolima said:
Is Ableton link working for anyone ? I’m stuck here…

Check in device settings that you enabled network permissions. Link won’t work without even on the same device. It works here, but I was careful to answer yes when asked on the first app startup.

Thanks but how can I do that? Where is it on my iPad? If I check GRII on the general Settings, there is nothing like the possibility to turn network permission on or off...

Ableton link works well on all my other apps (AUM, etc) so I don't think it is a global parameter...

Check if GRII is enabled under Privacy & Security under ‘Network’.

Thanks @Samu @0tolerance4silence
but it is listed and enabled correctly, so there is another problem here...

You might also need to enable background play in GRIi so it doesn’t stop the audio when backgrounded when switching to other apps?

11” M1 iPadPro, iPadOS18.3

I see the same as you but when I press "done", the Enabled button turn to gray...

Sorry for the stupid question…
Is the wi-fi enabled?

drewinnit

THANK YOU @Eschatone and @cokomairena

If you nudge (use shift) one note of the chord slightly ahead, and then set the remaining notes to PREV, you can govern the probability of the whole collective chord by the condition assigned to the slightly earlier note

Much obliged to you both for your clever thinking on this

cyberheater

@drewinnit said:
THANK YOU @Eschatone and @cokomairena

If you nudge (use shift) one note of the chord slightly ahead, and then set the remaining notes to PREV, you can govern the probability of the whole collective chord by the condition assigned to the slightly earlier note

Much obliged to you both for your clever thinking on this

That’s useful

drewinnit

Lack of IFX reverbs here really puzzles me….on GR16 i understood it as it was cloning the Electribe 2 which similarly only had reverbs as sends

I can live with it, but would really be nice to have the option to have even a simple reverb as an IFX option (or open up one IFX slot for AUv3 🙏🏻😅)

I will write to ask for ability to search AUv3s rather than scroll by developer.
I wanted to to insert Bark Filter….couldn’t remember dev, opened App Store, searched and found Harry Goh, scrolled to H in GR2 list - not there, scrolled to lower case h - not there, opened AUBE and saw it filed as Virsyn, finally could load it - huge buzzkill when you’re in the flow

cokomairena

.> @drewinnit said:

THANK YOU @Eschatone and @cokomairena

If you nudge (use shift) one note of the chord slightly ahead, and then set the remaining notes to PREV, you can govern the probability of the whole collective chord by the condition assigned to the slightly earlier note

Much obliged to you both for your clever thinking on this

this has to go to the wiki, great!

cokomairena

@drewinnit said:
Lack of IFX reverbs here really puzzles me….on GR16 i understood it as it was cloning the Electribe 2 which similarly only had reverbs as sends

I can live with it, but would really be nice to have the option to have even a simple reverb as an IFX option (or open up one IFX slot for AUv3 🙏🏻😅)

I will write to ask for ability to search AUv3s rather than scroll by developer.
I wanted to to insert Bark Filter….couldn’t remember dev, opened App Store, searched and found Harry Goh, scrolled to H in GR2 list - not there, scrolled to lower case h - not there, opened AUBE and saw it filed as Virsyn, finally could load it - huge buzzkill when you’re in the flow

A list ordered by name or even better by last usage like AUM would be great

cokomairena

I really fell the lack of auv3 fx, I would prefer them to use one layer slot instead of the IFX slot...

Also the lack of reverb in the ifx comes from the GR-16 days, I don't GR2 should perpetuate that.

Also not being able to dial the intensity (wet/dry) of some fx is frustrating.

It's a great groovebox, but doesn't have the features to be considered a DAW, especially without audio tracks.

I'm enjoying it tho, it's super fun and versatile, it just is very opinionated, you have to adapt to it... which is not a bad thing

Uprightmusic

@Edo9330 said:

@Uprightmusic said:
Is there anything similar to P-Locks in GR2?

not at the moment, but given how the step sequencer was designed, I think it is difficult to implement. It's not a bug but just how it was designed, so I don't know if it will be possible to implement it in the future (yes It Is possibile but a lot of things tò be changed)

I'd like it too, but by pairing gr2 with my Elektron equipment I miss it less, and I take advantage of aspects that I can't find on my hardware equipment.

but my workflow relies a lot, too much, on p lock and I would like to be able to exploit it on this app too

Ps there Is automations, but for me Is not the same that a p lock like in Drambo or Elektron devices

Thanks so much for the information. Is the Dev active in here?

jwmmakerofmusic

Alrighty. Time for me to get off the fence and either buy the damn app or not to buy. So my questions (as I can't be faffed about to read the entirety of this thread all over again 😂 )...

1. What are some reasons I should purchase GR-II?
2. What are some reasons I shouldn't?

I'm on iOS 18.1 on my iPad Mini. I won't mind upgrading to the latest version if it'd help any, that is if I decide to purchase. I got a case of cold feet. 😂

cokomairena

@Uprightmusic said:

@Edo9330 said:

@Uprightmusic said:
Is there anything similar to P-Locks in GR2?

not at the moment, but given how the step sequencer was designed, I think it is difficult to implement. It's not a bug but just how it was designed, so I don't know if it will be possible to implement it in the future (yes It Is possibile but a lot of things tò be changed)

I'd like it too, but by pairing gr2 with my Elektron equipment I miss it less, and I take advantage of aspects that I can't find on my hardware equipment.

but my workflow relies a lot, too much, on p lock and I would like to be able to exploit it on this app too

Ps there Is automations, but for me Is not the same that a p lock like in Drambo or Elektron devices

Thanks so much for the information. Is the Dev active in here?

no, but he responds to email: jimaudiodsp at gmail

Fruitbat1919

@jwmmakerofmusic said:
Alrighty. Time for me to get off the fence and either buy the damn app or not to buy. So my questions (as I can't be faffed about to read the entirety of this thread all over again 😂 )...

1. What are some reasons I should purchase GR-II?
2. What are some reasons I shouldn't?

I'm on iOS 18.1 on my iPad Mini. I won't mind upgrading to the latest version if it'd help any, that is if I decide to purchase. I got a case of cold feet. 😂

To buy for: fun, support development, something new, can be fast to make music for the most part.

To not buy: needs certain features to play well in the iOS music making ecosystem, as an addition to other DAWs it's lacking, a replacement for most iOS DAWs it is not so don't think that.

The dev has said to me it's 100% getting audio stem export at some point, so that's good news.

cokomairena

@jwmmakerofmusic said:
Alrighty. Time for me to get off the fence and either buy the damn app or not to buy. So my questions (as I can't be faffed about to read the entirety of this thread all over again 😂 )...

1. What are some reasons I should purchase GR-II?
2. What are some reasons I shouldn't?

I'm on iOS 18.1 on my iPad Mini. I won't mind upgrading to the latest version if it'd help any, that is if I decide to purchase. I got a case of cold feet. 😂

1.- The master fx are fun, the synth and sampler are very powerful, the piano roll is very good, the timeline edition it's also very good. The sound selection is super fast if you have a folder with samples (like testing dozens of kicks or hats or one shots is a breeze).

2.- The routing is very limited, you can't use auv3 fx on individual parts, the communication with other apps is limited to sending the master signal to IAA.

You should buy it if you want a different workflow that might spark something different musically.

cuscolima

@Samu said:

@cuscolima said:

@Samu said:

@cuscolima said:

@Samu said:

@cuscolima said:

@wim said:

@cuscolima said:
Is Ableton link working for anyone ? I’m stuck here…

Check in device settings that you enabled network permissions. Link won’t work without even on the same device. It works here, but I was careful to answer yes when asked on the first app startup.

Thanks but how can I do that? Where is it on my iPad? If I check GRII on the general Settings, there is nothing like the possibility to turn network permission on or off...

Ableton link works well on all my other apps (AUM, etc) so I don't think it is a global parameter...

Check if GRII is enabled under Privacy & Security under ‘Network’.

Thanks @Samu @0tolerance4silence
but it is listed and enabled correctly, so there is another problem here...

You might also need to enable background play in GRIi so it doesn’t stop the audio when backgrounded when switching to other apps?

11” M1 iPadPro, iPadOS18.3

I see the same as you but when I press "done", the Enabled button turn to gray...

As long as it says enabled the color doesn’t really matter as long as background audio is also on
Just tested with AUM, GRII, Gadet and Logic on the Mac and it works as expected.

Yes you are right, it works even if it is greyed…In fact I was expecting that it will start and stop when pressing the play but the feature Ableton start/stop is not implemented…(I hope it will be one day…)

So it synchronizes correctly, many thanks

auxmux

The individual layer missing AU support is hopefully resolved soon because that's a blocker / annoying. Otherwise first impressions are good .

am1001

Does anyone know if an iphone version is in the works? I have this now on ipad and its very impressive. Only thing I would like more is midi file import so I can easily get grooves going. I love the 16 part system and 3 layers per part.

anickt

I like the automatic project naming. Recently - “Get rid of this Cockroach”!

BuddyRow1969

@RajahP said:

@Eschatone said:

@wim said:

@Edo9330 said:
another thing I don't understand is this workflow of having to access the clip menu, hold down and tell it to edit in order to modify it. couldn't it do it automatically, like drambo? if the clip has not been created it creates it automatically, if it has already been created, it modifies the clip of the selected part.

double-tap on a clip opens the editor. A little easier, I guess.
That workflow is not so bad once you get used to it, but really seems like a kludge at first.

certain things seem so little sense to me that without the manual in hand I wonder if I'm missing something.

If your experience is like mine then you certainly are. I think I have most of those uncovered at this point, but you never know what you don't know eh?

(btw, I wonder how many people have noticed the microscopic little > that is next to invisible on the default dark keyboard. It displays pitch and mod wheels and another tiny little hamburger menu for setting keyboard size and scale lock mode. Man, that is some clever hiding of important details right there.)

And i don t under stand how make automation 😅

Move a knob while recording to make a the parameter show up. Then you can edit and draw what you like.
Cubasis pioneered that design gem. I never did like it.

Wow. Lotta sarcasm right now from me. It's good natured on my part, though I'm sure it doesn't come off that way. I'm far more pleased with GR-2 than I expected to be now that I've spent enough time with it.

Also, double tap on empty clip placeholder to make new clip. When in piano roll editor, the menu with 3 lines at the top has useful controls for quickly doubling length of your clip “i.e. Duplicate loop”

There’s a lot of helpful shift functions in the editor: Shift + the velocity slider will stagger the velocity of your selection. (Great for Hihats velocity ramps) .. Shift + move notes/change length will allow you to ignore snap to grid setting. (or it’ll snap to grid if the snap setting is turned off)

That piano roll is begging for midi import (and quantize to scale).. Jim should make it priority..
Managed to get some Lumbeat drum midi in there earlier, it is wild..

@RajahP said:

@Eschatone said:

@wim said:

@Edo9330 said:
another thing I don't understand is this workflow of having to access the clip menu, hold down and tell it to edit in order to modify it. couldn't it do it automatically, like drambo? if the clip has not been created it creates it automatically, if it has already been created, it modifies the clip of the selected part.

double-tap on a clip opens the editor. A little easier, I guess.
That workflow is not so bad once you get used to it, but really seems like a kludge at first.

certain things seem so little sense to me that without the manual in hand I wonder if I'm missing something.

If your experience is like mine then you certainly are. I think I have most of those uncovered at this point, but you never know what you don't know eh?

(btw, I wonder how many people have noticed the microscopic little > that is next to invisible on the default dark keyboard. It displays pitch and mod wheels and another tiny little hamburger menu for setting keyboard size and scale lock mode. Man, that is some clever hiding of important details right there.)

And i don t under stand how make automation 😅

Move a knob while recording to make a the parameter show up. Then you can edit and draw what you like.
Cubasis pioneered that design gem. I never did like it.

Wow. Lotta sarcasm right now from me. It's good natured on my part, though I'm sure it doesn't come off that way. I'm far more pleased with GR-2 than I expected to be now that I've spent enough time with it.

Also, double tap on empty clip placeholder to make new clip. When in piano roll editor, the menu with 3 lines at the top has useful controls for quickly doubling length of your clip “i.e. Duplicate loop”

There’s a lot of helpful shift functions in the editor: Shift + the velocity slider will stagger the velocity of your selection. (Great for Hihats velocity ramps) .. Shift + move notes/change length will allow you to ignore snap to grid setting. (or it’ll snap to grid if the snap setting is turned off)

That piano roll is begging for midi import (and quantize to scale).. Jim should make it priority..
Managed to get some Lumbeat drum midi in there earlier, it is wild..

@RajahP said:

@Eschatone said:

@wim said:

@Edo9330 said:
another thing I don't understand is this workflow of having to access the clip menu, hold down and tell it to edit in order to modify it. couldn't it do it automatically, like drambo? if the clip has not been created it creates it automatically, if it has already been created, it modifies the clip of the selected part.

double-tap on a clip opens the editor. A little easier, I guess.
That workflow is not so bad once you get used to it, but really seems like a kludge at first.

certain things seem so little sense to me that without the manual in hand I wonder if I'm missing something.

If your experience is like mine then you certainly are. I think I have most of those uncovered at this point, but you never know what you don't know eh?

(btw, I wonder how many people have noticed the microscopic little > that is next to invisible on the default dark keyboard. It displays pitch and mod wheels and another tiny little hamburger menu for setting keyboard size and scale lock mode. Man, that is some clever hiding of important details right there.)

And i don t under stand how make automation 😅

Move a knob while recording to make a the parameter show up. Then you can edit and draw what you like.
Cubasis pioneered that design gem. I never did like it.

Wow. Lotta sarcasm right now from me. It's good natured on my part, though I'm sure it doesn't come off that way. I'm far more pleased with GR-2 than I expected to be now that I've spent enough time with it.

Also, double tap on empty clip placeholder to make new clip. When in piano roll editor, the menu with 3 lines at the top has useful controls for quickly doubling length of your clip “i.e. Duplicate loop”

There’s a lot of helpful shift functions in the editor: Shift + the velocity slider will stagger the velocity of your selection. (Great for Hihats velocity ramps) .. Shift + move notes/change length will allow you to ignore snap to grid setting. (or it’ll snap to grid if the snap setting is turned off)

That piano roll is begging for midi import (and quantize to scale).. Jim should make it priority..
Managed to get some Lumbeat drum midi in there earlier, it is wild..

@RajahP said:

@Eschatone said:

@wim said:

@Edo9330 said:
another thing I don't understand is this workflow of having to access the clip menu, hold down and tell it to edit in order to modify it. couldn't it do it automatically, like drambo? if the clip has not been created it creates it automatically, if it has already been created, it modifies the clip of the selected part.

double-tap on a clip opens the editor. A little easier, I guess.
That workflow is not so bad once you get used to it, but really seems like a kludge at first.

certain things seem so little sense to me that without the manual in hand I wonder if I'm missing something.

If your experience is like mine then you certainly are. I think I have most of those uncovered at this point, but you never know what you don't know eh?

(btw, I wonder how many people have noticed the microscopic little > that is next to invisible on the default dark keyboard. It displays pitch and mod wheels and another tiny little hamburger menu for setting keyboard size and scale lock mode. Man, that is some clever hiding of important details right there.)

And i don t under stand how make automation 😅

Move a knob while recording to make a the parameter show up. Then you can edit and draw what you like.
Cubasis pioneered that design gem. I never did like it.

Wow. Lotta sarcasm right now from me. It's good natured on my part, though I'm sure it doesn't come off that way. I'm far more pleased with GR-2 than I expected to be now that I've spent enough time with it.

Also, double tap on empty clip placeholder to make new clip. When in piano roll editor, the menu with 3 lines at the top has useful controls for quickly doubling length of your clip “i.e. Duplicate loop”

There’s a lot of helpful shift functions in the editor: Shift + the velocity slider will stagger the velocity of your selection. (Great for Hihats velocity ramps) .. Shift + move notes/change length will allow you to ignore snap to grid setting. (or it’ll snap to grid if the snap setting is turned off)

That piano roll is begging for midi import (and quantize to scale).. Jim should make it priority..
Managed to get some Lumbeat drum midi in there earlier, it is wild..

jwmmakerofmusic

@Fruitbat1919 @cokomairena Good solid answers. That's helping me a bit to make up my mind. I'm leaning towards "purchase". I did email Mr. Pavloff to see how close we are to getting that manual and if he'd allow me a private sneak-peek of the manual. Told him I'd like to see what GR-II can do prior to purchasing. 🙏 (The videos are wonderful and informative, but "reading the effing manual" will unlock the workflow to my mind, lol.)

Also, seems the built-in reverbs are only on the send effects (currently). That's basically how I work in Cubasis 3, whether I commit something to audio via freezing, or simply use MIDI tracks (or a combo therein). No big issue for me personally since a reverb send makes more sense and frees up an extra space in the IFX.

wim

@Eschatone said:
I couldn’t get GR2’s wavetable synth to load any wavetable nested in folders, which is an odd omission, considering folders work in the sampler. So for now I’m having to throw everything together in the tables folder.

Ahhh. That's why my collection of wavetables that I thought worked with GR-16 didn't work with GR-2! Now I seem to remember GR-16 being that way too.

jwmmakerofmusic

@anickt said:
I like the automatic project naming. Recently - “Get rid of this Cockroach”!

"Splat", I got rid of the cockroach. 😂 In seriousness, the random project naming sounds fun with some interesting results in the naming of projects.

RajahP

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@BuddyRow1969 said:

@RajahP said:

@Eschatone said:

@wim said:

@Edo9330 said:
another thing I don't understand is this workflow of having to access the clip menu, hold down and tell it to edit in order to modify it. couldn't it do it automatically, like drambo? if the clip has not been created it creates it automatically, if it has already been created, it modifies the clip of the selected part.

double-tap on a clip opens the editor. A little easier, I guess.
That workflow is not so bad once you get used to it, but really seems like a kludge at first.

certain things seem so little sense to me that without the manual in hand I wonder if I'm missing something.

If your experience is like mine then you certainly are. I think I have most of those uncovered at this point, but you never know what you don't know eh?

(btw, I wonder how many people have noticed the microscopic little > that is next to invisible on the default dark keyboard. It displays pitch and mod wheels and another tiny little hamburger menu for setting keyboard size and scale lock mode. Man, that is some clever hiding of important details right there.)

And i don t under stand how make automation 😅

Move a knob while recording to make a the parameter show up. Then you can edit and draw what you like.
Cubasis pioneered that design gem. I never did like it.

Wow. Lotta sarcasm right now from me. It's good natured on my part, though I'm sure it doesn't come off that way. I'm far more pleased with GR-2 than I expected to be now that I've spent enough time with it.

Also, double tap on empty clip placeholder to make new clip. When in piano roll editor, the menu with 3 lines at the top has useful controls for quickly doubling length of your clip “i.e. Duplicate loop”

There’s a lot of helpful shift functions in the editor: Shift + the velocity slider will stagger the velocity of your selection. (Great for Hihats velocity ramps) .. Shift + move notes/change length will allow you to ignore snap to grid setting. (or it’ll snap to grid if the snap setting is turned off)

That piano roll is begging for midi import (and quantize to scale).. Jim should make it priority..
Managed to get some Lumbeat drum midi in there earlier, it is wild..

@RajahP said:

@Eschatone said:

@wim said:

@Edo9330 said:
another thing I don't understand is this workflow of having to access the clip menu, hold down and tell it to edit in order to modify it. couldn't it do it automatically, like drambo? if the clip has not been created it creates it automatically, if it has already been created, it modifies the clip of the selected part.

double-tap on a clip opens the editor. A little easier, I guess.
That workflow is not so bad once you get used to it, but really seems like a kludge at first.

certain things seem so little sense to me that without the manual in hand I wonder if I'm missing something.

If your experience is like mine then you certainly are. I think I have most of those uncovered at this point, but you never know what you don't know eh?

(btw, I wonder how many people have noticed the microscopic little > that is next to invisible on the default dark keyboard. It displays pitch and mod wheels and another tiny little hamburger menu for setting keyboard size and scale lock mode. Man, that is some clever hiding of important details right there.)

And i don t under stand how make automation 😅

Move a knob while recording to make a the parameter show up. Then you can edit and draw what you like.
Cubasis pioneered that design gem. I never did like it.

Wow. Lotta sarcasm right now from me. It's good natured on my part, though I'm sure it doesn't come off that way. I'm far more pleased with GR-2 than I expected to be now that I've spent enough time with it.

Also, double tap on empty clip placeholder to make new clip. When in piano roll editor, the menu with 3 lines at the top has useful controls for quickly doubling length of your clip “i.e. Duplicate loop”

There’s a lot of helpful shift functions in the editor: Shift + the velocity slider will stagger the velocity of your selection. (Great for Hihats velocity ramps) .. Shift + move notes/change length will allow you to ignore snap to grid setting. (or it’ll snap to grid if the snap setting is turned off)

That piano roll is begging for midi import (and quantize to scale).. Jim should make it priority..
Managed to get some Lumbeat drum midi in there earlier, it is wild..

@RajahP said:

@Eschatone said:

@wim said:

@Edo9330 said:
another thing I don't understand is this workflow of having to access the clip menu, hold down and tell it to edit in order to modify it. couldn't it do it automatically, like drambo? if the clip has not been created it creates it automatically, if it has already been created, it modifies the clip of the selected part.

double-tap on a clip opens the editor. A little easier, I guess.
That workflow is not so bad once you get used to it, but really seems like a kludge at first.

certain things seem so little sense to me that without the manual in hand I wonder if I'm missing something.

If your experience is like mine then you certainly are. I think I have most of those uncovered at this point, but you never know what you don't know eh?

(btw, I wonder how many people have noticed the microscopic little > that is next to invisible on the default dark keyboard. It displays pitch and mod wheels and another tiny little hamburger menu for setting keyboard size and scale lock mode. Man, that is some clever hiding of important details right there.)

And i don t under stand how make automation 😅

Move a knob while recording to make a the parameter show up. Then you can edit and draw what you like.
Cubasis pioneered that design gem. I never did like it.

Wow. Lotta sarcasm right now from me. It's good natured on my part, though I'm sure it doesn't come off that way. I'm far more pleased with GR-2 than I expected to be now that I've spent enough time with it.

Also, double tap on empty clip placeholder to make new clip. When in piano roll editor, the menu with 3 lines at the top has useful controls for quickly doubling length of your clip “i.e. Duplicate loop”

There’s a lot of helpful shift functions in the editor: Shift + the velocity slider will stagger the velocity of your selection. (Great for Hihats velocity ramps) .. Shift + move notes/change length will allow you to ignore snap to grid setting. (or it’ll snap to grid if the snap setting is turned off)

That piano roll is begging for midi import (and quantize to scale).. Jim should make it priority..
Managed to get some Lumbeat drum midi in there earlier, it is wild..

@RajahP said:

@Eschatone said:

@wim said:

@Edo9330 said:
another thing I don't understand is this workflow of having to access the clip menu, hold down and tell it to edit in order to modify it. couldn't it do it automatically, like drambo? if the clip has not been created it creates it automatically, if it has already been created, it modifies the clip of the selected part.

double-tap on a clip opens the editor. A little easier, I guess.
That workflow is not so bad once you get used to it, but really seems like a kludge at first.

certain things seem so little sense to me that without the manual in hand I wonder if I'm missing something.

If your experience is like mine then you certainly are. I think I have most of those uncovered at this point, but you never know what you don't know eh?

(btw, I wonder how many people have noticed the microscopic little > that is next to invisible on the default dark keyboard. It displays pitch and mod wheels and another tiny little hamburger menu for setting keyboard size and scale lock mode. Man, that is some clever hiding of important details right there.)

And i don t under stand how make automation 😅

Move a knob while recording to make a the parameter show up. Then you can edit and draw what you like.
Cubasis pioneered that design gem. I never did like it.

Wow. Lotta sarcasm right now from me. It's good natured on my part, though I'm sure it doesn't come off that way. I'm far more pleased with GR-2 than I expected to be now that I've spent enough time with it.

Also, double tap on empty clip placeholder to make new clip. When in piano roll editor, the menu with 3 lines at the top has useful controls for quickly doubling length of your clip “i.e. Duplicate loop”

There’s a lot of helpful shift functions in the editor: Shift + the velocity slider will stagger the velocity of your selection. (Great for Hihats velocity ramps) .. Shift + move notes/change length will allow you to ignore snap to grid setting. (or it’ll snap to grid if the snap setting is turned off)

That piano roll is begging for midi import (and quantize to scale).. Jim should make it priority..
Managed to get some Lumbeat drum midi in there earlier, it is wild..

The ability to bring in saved midi sequences from the browser to ANY song… well..