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  • Telstar5Telstar5

    @kinkujin said:
    Sign me up for a manual - I’m friggin lost.

    How do @sfm (Leo) and Doug @thesoundtestroom ever figure this stuff out?

  • LeeBLeeB

    @Telstar5 said:

    @kinkujin said:
    Sign me up for a manual - I’m friggin lost.

    How do @sfm (Leo) and Doug @thesoundtestroom ever figure this stuff out?

    Probably being in the Beta team

  • cyberheatercyberheater

    @drewinnit said:
    .> @wim said:

    @reezygle said:

    @wim said:
    Insert FX per Drumkit part would be nice. Who generally wants all the same FX on a whole kit??

    I do for MIDI Fx.

    I use Drum Computer and map each drum computer track to a drum in the gr 2 drum track. I can do it with having each drum sound on a different part. IMO it would be more efficient to do it all in a single drum kit part vs creating a separate part for each drum sound.

    Sorry, I probably didn't explain very well.

    A part can have a Drum Rack layer with 16 different drum hits in the single part, which is very nice to have. However, if you want to, say, have reverb on only the snare, or delay on only the hats, you can't do it. Insert FX are applied to all of the samples in that layer. That severely limits the usefulness of the Drum Rack part type.

    Sure, I can eat up additional Parts for individual hits, but that defeats the purpose of the Drum Rack part type and also makes sequencing far more cumbersome.

    maybe you figured this out already, but each drum channel of a drum rack can choose which of the 3 IFX it can send to (use Parallel to get 3 individual fx per drum rack). This isn’t a complete fix as sends are universal across all channels but does add a little bit more control for each drum channel of a rack

    Works the same for a Pure Acid drum rack

    Yes I found this the other day. I love finding out stuff like this. Shows you how deep the app is.

  • michael_mmichael_m

    @anickt said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    @kinkujin said:
    Sign me up for a manual - I’m friggin lost.

    Same here, lol. I took to some of the basics just fine, but I want to rtfm. Wish the manual was released same time as the app. 😂 Although I do understand Mr. Pavloff is a one man act. And what he's created is nothing short of amazing. Really is the ultimate performance tool.

    I was lost too but Doug’s and the Sound For More videos on YouTube helped me see some things I was missing.

    Yeah, who needs a manual when you have Doug?

  • cokomairenacokomairena

    Jim agreed about the idea of putting reverbs inside IFX, we might get it! :)

  • Michael_R_GrantMichael_R_Grant

    @cokomairena said:
    Jim agreed about the idea of putting reverbs inside IFX, we might get it! :)

    Yay!

  • wimwim
    edited February 5

    @drewinnit said:
    maybe you figured this out already, but each drum channel of a drum rack can choose which of the 3 IFX it can send to (use Parallel to get 3 individual fx per drum rack). This isn’t a complete fix as sends are universal across all channels but does add a little bit more control for each drum channel of a rack

    oooh thanks! I hadn't seen that yet. 👍🏼

    Without reverb on the iFX it's not as useful as I'd like, but definitely an improvement.

  • cyberheatercyberheater

    @cokomairena said:
    Jim agreed about the idea of putting reverbs inside IFX, we might get it! :)

    Nice 😊

  • robosardinerobosardine

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    @kinkujin said:
    Sign me up for a manual - I’m friggin lost.

    Same here, lol. I took to some of the basics just fine, but I want to rtfm. Wish the manual was released same time as the app. 😂 Although I do understand Mr. Pavloff is a one man act. And what he's created is nothing short of amazing. Really is the ultimate performance tool.

    You can’t have it both ways surely. The ‘ultimate performance tool’ but you are both ‘friggin lost’ 🤔😅

    Ps I can’t help any I’m afraid - I avoided this one (I had mentioned somewhere before that I was happy with the workflow that I have now) and I’m kind of feeling happy that I did - sounds like a bit of a puzzling mind bender at times. I’ve a feeling that some people are keeping a lid on their frustrations due to the esteem that Jim is held in. Who is going to be first to explode? 🧨💥😂

  • jwmmakerofmusicjwmmakerofmusic

    @robosardine said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    @kinkujin said:
    Sign me up for a manual - I’m friggin lost.

    Same here, lol. I took to some of the basics just fine, but I want to rtfm. Wish the manual was released same time as the app. 😂 Although I do understand Mr. Pavloff is a one man act. And what he's created is nothing short of amazing. Really is the ultimate performance tool.

    You can’t have it both ways surely. The ‘ultimate performance tool’ but you are both ‘friggin lost’ 🤔😅

    Ps I can’t help any I’m afraid - I avoided this one (I had mentioned somewhere before that I was happy with the workflow that I have now) and I’m kind of feeling happy that I did - sounds like a bit of a puzzling mind bender at times. I’ve a feeling that some people are keeping a lid on their frustrations due to the esteem that Jim is held in. Who is going to be first to explode? 🧨💥😂

    Oh, no need for explosions. Jim listens to our feedback. As @cokomairena said, he's considering putting reverb in the IFX. Which will be great. Hopefully to see a manual soon.

  • wimwim
    edited February 5

    @robosardine said:
    Ps I can’t help any I’m afraid - I avoided this one (I had mentioned somewhere before that I was happy with the workflow that I have now) and I’m kind of feeling happy that I did - sounds like a bit of a puzzling mind bender at times. I’ve a feeling that some people are keeping a lid on their frustrations due to the esteem that Jim is held in. Who is going to be first to explode? 🧨💥😂

    Quite the opposite for me. I had low expectations. I had decided to skip it but decided to indulge my curiosity even though I assumed I'd probably set it aside rather quickly. First impressions backed that up. But, liking to figure things out, I kept on. Before long the initial irritations faded and it started to grow on me. Since then I've spent more time with it and have made more music that doesn't completely suck than any other app since Loopy Pro.

    I don't pull any punches, no matter the developer, and no matter how that rankles their devotees. Quite the opposite from having building frustration though, I'm enjoying it more the more I use it.

    If I had the expectations of the people panting in anticipation for this earlier that'd probably be different. 😂

  • drconfusiondrconfusion

    @cokomairena said:
    Jim agreed about the idea of putting reverbs inside IFX, we might get it! :)

    Heyyyyyy, that’s great news!

  • wimwim

    @drewinnit said:
    Am i missing something or is it not better to load Poison as an AUv3 and get full control rather than the native mini-version which seems very limited?

    Sure, the AU is better if you don't get distracted easily or are into sound design rather than just preset trolling for a quick sound you like. I loaded the integrated version during a jam last night and it worked out real well. On a normal night I'd have started poking around in the synth and before long would be tweaking things instead of coming up with musical ideas.

  • wimwim
    edited February 5

    Does anyone know what the Parameter Sets (on the Part settings) are for? Apologies if they're explained on the videos I don't have the patience to wade through.

  • wimwim
    edited February 5

    I just discovered drum Racks can have synth parts in them, not just samples.
    That's cool.

    The Synth Drums rack preset is a real eye opener for what the synth can do for percussion sounds.

  • SamuSamu

    @wim said:
    Does anyone know what the Parameter Sets (on the Part settings) are for? Apologies if they're explained on the videos I don't have the patience to wade through.

    They are just that parameter stets for the part, you can for example store alternate settings for the arpeggiator in one set and then switch between the sets.

  • anicktanickt

    @wim said:
    Does anyone know what the Parameter Sets (on the Part settings) are for? Apologies if they're explained on the videos I don't have the patience to wade through.

    Those look like instrument presets. So you can open them in other projects. I vaguely remember that Jim added layer and part presets just before release.

  • cyberheatercyberheater

    There doesn’t appear a simple step sequencer unless I’ve missed something.

  • ChimmyChungaFaceChimmyChungaFace

    @ChimmyChungaFace said:

    @dendy said:
    would be nice if somebody can share real link into some which actually works.

    I tried a couple from this link:
    https://www.reddit.com/r/edmproduction/comments/2jhew1/1700_waveforms_for_serums_wavetable_download_link/
    And they worked. 2nd version (** NEW LINK ** as of 10/31/15). Don't know if they all work though.

    The "Adventure Kid Serum" ones are pretty cool, because they make one long massive wavetable for each Adventure Kid waveform pack.

  • jwmmakerofmusicjwmmakerofmusic

    @wim said:
    I just discovered drum Racks can have synth parts in them, not just samples.
    That's cool.

    The Synth Drums rack preset is a real eye opener for what the synth can do for percussion sounds.

    Okay, that is just damn cool! I thought the only drum rack with synth sounds was Pure Acid drums. GR-II just keeps getting better and better!

  • wimwim

    @cyberheater said:
    There doesn’t appear a simple step sequencer unless I’ve missed something.

    Well, not exactly simple or intuitive to find, but it's there.

    Pick a part, then tap on steps. Then tap the Edit button. Finally, drag up or down on pad number 1 to select the note you want to step sequence. That'll give you access to the steps.

    I hope I explained that clearly enough. It takes some getting used to, but makes sense eventually.

  • wimwim
    edited February 5

    It would be super helpful if the last enabled step in the step sequencer automatically selected the note in the piano roll.

  • cyberheatercyberheater

    @wim said:

    @cyberheater said:
    There doesn’t appear a simple step sequencer unless I’ve missed something.

    Well, not exactly simple or intuitive to find, but it's there.

    Pick a part, then tap on steps. Then tap the Edit button. Finally, drag up or down on pad number 1 to select the note you want to step sequence. That'll give you access to the steps.

    I hope I explained that clearly enough. It takes some getting used to, but makes sense eventually.

    Thanks. No wonder I missed it.

  • wimwim

    @Samu said:

    @wim said:
    Does anyone know what the Parameter Sets (on the Part settings) are for? Apologies if they're explained on the videos I don't have the patience to wade through.

    They are just that parameter stets for the part, you can for example store alternate settings for the arpeggiator in one set and then switch between the sets.

    Thanks @Samu.

  • AndyPlanktonAndyPlankton
    edited February 6

    Gr 2 one week in.

    So far I really like it, I’ve managed to figure most stuff out that I’ve tried to do. Contrary to what I’ve been reading here from some I’ve actually found it quite intuitive. Perhaps that’s down to experience. I am an Oldie.

    Some personal thoughts -

    I would like to be able to re-order the parts.
    I want to be able to move part 6 to part 1, so I can order the performance after creation, sometimes the creation order isn’t the same as the performance order.
    I would like to be able to re-order the scenes, again the order they are created isn’t always the order you want them in a performance.

    MIDI out. GR2 isn’t my performance method of choice, I Ideally I’d like to transfer what I do in GR 2 to my currently preferred sequencers and sound sources, having a MIDI out layer similar to Taipei in Gadget would be awesome for me.

    Clip integration with midi controllers, I am running on an iPad 2020, it handles the cpu OK but something I have noticed with this device is that it sometimes triggers presses when in fact I am only hovering, it annoys the hell out of me, this is not exclusive to GR 2. I really want to be able to clip launch with a controller.

    Secondary thoughts

    My usual request for MIDI Clock In/Out, not a biggie, as an AUM user I can at least do Clock out with that.

    I get the requests for Reverb as an insert. Reasons to not have it for me are
    Reverb is probably the most CPU intensive FX and limits the use on older devices, me on an IPad 2020 would not cope with individual reverbs on tracks. That doesn’t mean it shouldn’t be available for those on the latest and most powerful devices though, but
    For a busy mix, having lots of different reverbs is really not a good idea. There is a reason reverb and chorus are usually on sends. For specific sound design purpose I can see its need.

    Awesome work from Jim as usual, and as a fellow Prodigy listener I appreciate the work and inspiration. Having fun exploring, not sure as yet if it will remain in my personal arsenal for production, but will certainly be in the play area.

  • JohnmayoJohnmayo

    @AndyPlankton said:
    Gr 2 one week in.

    So far I really like it, I’ve managed to figure most stuff out that I’ve tried to do. Contrary to what I’ve been reading here from some I’ve actually found it quite intuitive. Perhaps that’s down to experience. I am an Oldie.

    Some personal thoughts -

    I would like to be able to re-order the parts.
    I want to be able to move part 6 to part 1, so I can order the performance after creation, sometimes the creation order isn’t the same as the performance order.
    I would like to be able to re-order the scenes, again the order they are created isn’t always the order you want them in a performance.

    MIDI out. GR2 isn’t my performance method of choice, I Ideally I’d like to transfer what I do in GR 2 to my currently preferred sequencers and sound sources, having a MIDI out layer similar to Taipei in Gadget would be awesome for me.

    Clip integration with midi controllers, I am running on an iPad 2020, it handles the cpu OK but something I have noticed with this device is that it sometimes triggers presses when in fact I am only hovering, it annoys the hell out of me, this is not exclusive to GR 2. I really want to be able to clip launch with a controller.

    Secondary thoughts

    My usual request for MIDI Clock In/Out, not a biggie, as an AUM user I can at least do Clock out with that.

    I get the requests for Reverb as an insert. Reasons to not have it for me are
    Reverb is probably the most CPU intensive FX and limits the use on older devices, me on an IPad 2020 would not cope with individual reverbs on tracks. That doesn’t mean it shouldn’t be available for those on the latest and most powerful devices though, but
    For a busy mix, having lots of different reverbs is really not a good idea. There is a reason reverb and chorus are usually on sends. For specific sound design purpose I can see its need.

    Awesome work from Jim as usual, and as a fellow Prodigy listener I appreciate the work and inspiration. Having fun exploring, not sure as yet if it will remain in my personal arsenal for production, but will certainly be in the play area.

    You can move the tracks in the mixer view. Just hold down on the little icon above the track name and move it.

  • erosseross

    i’m trying to use iconica sketch as au instrument. it loads but no sound gets triggered. anyone else having this issue?

  • djmitchelladjmitchella

    You can move clips up or down; go into selection mode (the dotted rectangle at top right), then tap on a clip, it lights up, and then you can drag it to the new row. Use shift to select multiple clips and move them all at once.

    Not sure if you can just swap whole rows around like this, though, clips overwrite wherever you move them to rather than "inserting" themselves, so there's a bit of shuffling back and forth needed if you want to reorder the whole thing.

  • cokomairenacokomairena

    @wim said:
    I just discovered drum Racks can have synth parts in them, not just samples.
    That's cool.

    The Synth Drums rack preset is a real eye opener for what the synth can do for percussion sounds.

    I use a second drum rack with only a synth in the kick place as a phantom sidechain kick, you can leave it muted and copy the whole drum pattern there as it will only play the kick

  • cokomairenacokomairena

    @wim said:
    It would be super helpful if the last enabled step in the step sequencer automatically selected the note in the piano roll.

    did you mamil jim about it? that's a good suggestion indeed

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