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ok, here goes. I'm aware of the faults in this one - it started as a simple bassline/drum track in Gadget, which I was then going to export to Auria and mangle as per my usual. I carried on mucking about in Gadget though and found some nice chords, and added a couple of lead sounds, and used it as an opportunity to learn a bit more about that one. Problem is the chords didn't quite fit, and I couldn't work out how to shift the chord bars 5-16 back four without breaking everything, so left it as it was. I added a Japanese voice to cover up the hole in the chord sequence instead. When I'd finished I exported the Gadget track to Auria where I shoved on some iFretless, more silly samples and hoped to use Different Drummer but the timing was out, so...anyway...don't be too hard on me, I'm filing this one as 'practice'...
@Monzo - loving the sleeve notes. Will have a listen this evening.
@monzo Well done. The submission process is good for the soul (Nurse). And will either help you move this piece of self-described practice along a little further or propel you forward to the next thing.
Would like the first sample/intro sounds to fade further/longer into/across the beginning, feels like a little bit of gap somehow.
Love the ifretless, all mood and not overdone.
Maybe a hair too much echo on the voices when they come back in at 2 mins.
That down progression of the lead sound at 2.37 will always be Floyd. Funny how certain tiny things lodge in the memory brain.
I was asking Mister Fletcher for a low-voice male rap on his piece, and on here I want Haruki Murakami muttering something (Kafka By The Shore or maybe something from his running book) in the background, but I'm a tart for narrative so don't mind me....
Thanks for the comments, and I agree with all that you've said. I think I've made all my Gadget mistakes in this one, and fulfilled my Auria mistakes in half finished tracks a month before, so I'm now ready to do a proper job on the next one.
There are a couple of moments in this one I like - the 'Floyd' bit at the end was what prompted me to try and make it into a proper thing but the structure wasn't there. So I'll make a new version using similar sounds at some point, but minus the wandering and crazy samples.
Very tempted to buy the iM1 tonight as Gadget looks like becoming my main workhorse. I'm struggling a bit with the on screen keyboard (workman/tools) but ordering the CC lead tomorrow so I'll be able to use a MIDI keyboard.
It was tough doing this, you're all very good on here so my old stuff feels a bit mad and tatty in comparison, but it's making me think beyond my usual weirdness and mangling. Almost.
@monzo
You may also be a fully-qualified staff-sergeant in our platoon of procrastinators and thereby adept at putting off the pulling of the trigger (unusual for a soldier
by way of downplaying your own skill/production, which to the outside ear sounds fully up to par 
I think the keyboard does/will help a lot in Gadget (for obvious reasons) just wished I used it more. It's the place where the Gadget set-up shines as regards finding the collisions of the right notes or correcting those that are nearly right. But -of course- that's also therefore one of the areas we long for a proper Undo for...
I think the iM1 will be a good addition. I say this because personally I have found plenty of sounds to use in it and (this is the kicker), since buying it, and beyond just the novelty, I find that more tracks are Darwin than anything else. And that despite the fact that at least some of the time I'm going back and forth with the tweaking etc.
Would stay and chat but there is a bright object in the sky causing warmth and radiance, most uncommon, and thus I feel the need to run about in the back garden/shoot hoops/gulp air.
Onward and upward.
If it's possible to play the samples in the iM1 'dry' and switch off that blessed reverb then I'm in. Enjoy the sun, we don't get that sort of thing here in Wales.
@Monzo - I really, really like this...
Lots and lots to love...
The bassline throughout - very cool... nice 'ear worm' stuff
The Japanese spoken sample - perfect... very nice find
Pretty much every sound I really like to be honest - the bowed thing, the pluck thing... wicked
The mix is particularly good - I like the fact that a lot of stuff is quite faint
The floyd thing actually made me think "Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy - TV version"
Where are the drums from please? Particularly the kind of reversed percussion / synth drum stuff at 2.40 right near the end? Tokyo? If Gadget, which patch please? I love those sounds!
How are you effecting your vocal samples? I love all the tape rewind stuff... what are you using for that?
Personally i think this is great... very cool sound... and actually there is a good structure too
Thanks! This is definitely just a demo, I think it's on our agenda for our session in July, in Maine, where I hope one @johnnygoodyear makes his presence known if even for a brief moment.
I will be there and tales will be told and the truth in one or many of its different forms shall be revealed etc.
Wow thanks Matt
I think on that bit it's a combination of London, Abu Dhabi and an overdub of some tablas from Different Drummer. I had hoped to use more DD on the track but couldn't get it to stay in time so I manually cut and pasted a few bars here and there. This is what I used on the track from Gadget:
London (Bet on it)
Chicago (Bass Simple)
Chicago (Phase Line)
Abu Dhabi (Deep Sine Kit)
Marseille (Rave Lead)
Brussels (Darkside Lead)
Berlin (Soft Lead)
Main bass line is 'Bass Simple'. Before I found the chords (Rave Lead) I'd initially envisioned the track would be a motorik type thing with a repetitive bass/drums throughout.
I exported the Gadget track and then imported this into Auria where I added some iFretless guitar, DD tablas and vocals samples to cover up the mistakes. iFretless is going through a custom Tonestack combo, but the Gadget stuff is pretty dry.
Erm, I cheated and did those on the PC (hangs head in shame). I've got a copy of SoundForge (which came free with Sony Vegas) and used that to prepare the (Freesound) samples, and then added these to Auria. I love SoundForge, I wish there was something like it for iOS.
That's very kind, thank you. I've learned a lot from this one - mostly about what not to do!
I started a new track last night (just before I bought iM1 and became distracted with that), tapped in a rhythm using London and Bilbao (which came out surprisingly - for me anyway - funky) and a couple of chords in Marseille (my new favourite app) with a second Marseille track beefing it up. The new track sounds like one of the best things I've ever done on the iPad already, and I only spent about 20 minutes on it. I need to develop it and do the tricky bit of adding more chords and a structure, but it's working better because I made all the mistakes on my May song of the month contribution. I'm hoping for June I'll have something much better post here - it's a good thread this and definitely gives me a kick up the sort yourself out area.
@monzo wow, this is so different to your last contribution, much more structured and easy to follow, with a better sense of progression, I like it a lot more.
My favourite part was the background sounds, nice little melodies going there with a range of different textures, I also loved the japanese sample at the beginning, that had the crazy monzo feel to it.
My thought with the synth part later on was more Vangelis than Floyd, but I guess it's a sound with a history
Thank you! Yes it's a bit more palatable than my usual madness though I wasn't able to fully resist adding some strangeness
I'm going to concentrate a bit more on using Gadget, and this lends itself to a more structured approach. I'll still do the strange stuff as well, but this thread is great motivation for knuckling down and making stuff that people might enjoy listening to.
You definitely shouldn't stop the strangeness, but it helps if it's harnessed and has some purpose.
Mrs Monzo says the very same thing to me on a regular basis...
@Monzo I love that Deep Sine Kit ... I think I was hearing that.
The Japanese sample is inspired. Very cool.
Glad you're getting into Gadget. I think it's amazing.
Seeing a video for Gadget was what inspired me to dig out my neglected iPad 2 and update the iOS just over a year ago. Unfortunately it didn't work that well on my old device (though I discovered another Audiobus app related world of joy), but now with iOS8.3 and my Air 2 it's become a very powerful composing tool. More tracks and much more stable. The editing screen does lack a few basic DAW features, but what I like about Gadget most is the very clean sound of the final exported track. This provides an excellent base for importing into Auria or GarageBand for final overdubbing.
I've just been going through the iM1 sounds and there's a ton of very useful presets in there, which (when Korg fix the bug) will add a lot to my Gadget compositions. Looking forward to creating some proper tunes over the next few months. Gadget's definitely my favourite app at the moment.
Yes, we seem to be going through a Gadget Season. All to the good. Want to add (again) to the other positive comments about The Japanese Sample. It's such a tough thing to get your ears on right and pick or recognize good ones, but they are so good when they're good. Yet so easily abused also.
One of the reasons I adore Freesound is that most of the contributions there are a ) Original and b) not necessarily 'designed' with music like ours (whatever that means) in mind. Brings a freshness and a left field-ness which seems key. I feel they can make a real contribution or add direction to a track, rather than just be bolted on.
Look forward @monzo to see what you do with iM1. Will also share my endorsement (fwiw) of the idea of recording (less than 5 second) layers in Alchemy and then bringing them into Bilbao. Getting some good results which help add real texture.
Thanks. I'm really impressed with the free version of Alchemy, so I can see a place for that in my tracks at some point.....need to sieve through the 3,300 iM1 patches first though!
In amongst the 80's and Yamaha home catalogue organ patches there are some really good sounds in the iM1 - I'm a sucker for Eastern and classical instruments so chuffed there's plenty of those, including a Tanpura - which I was going to buy separately but won't probably have to now.
Only thing with using recognisable sounds is I find myself accidentally copying existing music - hence on the last track I went a bit Wish You Were Here with the synth lead, and on the new one it's getting a bit Cloudbusting daddy.
By the way, I bought an add on card to iM1 yesterday and it showed up in Darwin fine... It was just there. No problems likes other have had...
And another 'by the way' - on the top left hand side of the editing pages in iM1 (program mode) is a 'menu' icon button. Hit it and it will bring up what are almost the identical dials as in Darwin. This is cool because you can move these dial and 'preview' exactly what kind of influence you're going to be able to have on your patch once you get it into Darwin. The only difference is that it has global FX wet/dry rather than one for each of the 2 FX (like in Darwon) - no idea why. But it's cool thing to know about when designing a patch you are going to bring into Darwin. Finally, interestingly this screen also lets you totally kill all FX - in case you want to hear what the patch 'actually' sounds like.
Good tips Matt, particularly the kill FX option, I've been scrabbling around on the editing pages to do that.
Thanks. Didn't realize/recognize this.
I would add that I also found a nice way to do the same with Animoog last night - using it's 4 track. You can audiocopy and paste straight into Gadget...
Here you go @monzo, embrace your inner Kate, cut to the chase and all that:
http://musicnoteslib.com/tabs/Kate_Bush-Cloudbusting-4294934743.html
@Matt_Fletcher_2000 Yup. 1am in Austin and I was doing exactly the same thing
Hafta say that after a little while I wondered why I was going to all that trouble, especially with so much noise waiting in Darwin, but it's the layering through the 4 track that does it. Wouldn't want to do a whole piece that way, but for the 'sweet notes' (cf Miles D.) it can be lovely. I guess we should be on the look out for other similar in-app recorders....
Nice, MIDI download too....no, I mustn't. My vocals aren't up to it anyways.
Phew,seems I've got some catching up to do!:) ...pulls dirty nappy off his iPad and shrinks away from the bright light.Man I need some sleep! God bless new borns sleeping patterns!:)
Good luck with your competition Matt! I enjoyed your track mate.fave bit for me was anything from the piano break on but especially the drumjam stuff.You def know your way around Gadget! I might start calling you 'Inspector Gadget'!! No? ..too much,fair enough:D
@Monzo,mate I really enjoyed your track.i loved the chords and the whole vibe from 1.40 and at 2.10 when that leady bit ( technical term) came in it for some reason reminded me of playing the game OutRun on my Sega Gamegear in the 90's!
of course that was exactly what u were going for right?:D
@Johnny,I loved that little window into your mood that you posted earlier in the thread.i loved the video as well.youve got some skillz man! (Official Cool kid speak)
@Jocphone,nice experimental piece mate.I thought the sounds were cool and kudos for trying something that I think u said u wouldn't normally do.Thats why I love messing around with the iPad! Even if a lot of the time for me it actually is a mess!:D
@LostBoy85 Thanks Official Cool kid, I appreciate it
So may entries this month. Have made start on re-listening to them all and have jotted down some thoughts about the ones from the first few pages:
@richardyot - Warm Summer Nights demo
Nice tune and timing is much, much better. Don't know if it's the recording or the effects but vocals sound a little boomy and or boxy.
Bringing the vocals out to front really makes ths song though. Can't helping feeling you are channelling Hefner somehow (loved Fidelity Wars).
@RedSkyLullaby - Dream Valley (Feat. Martin Neuhold)
I do like the bassy. slightly subdued percussion, something I have been thinking about recently while discussing another track @AlterEgo_UK.
This is one of those pieces that you sink into and experience, like a hot bath. Enjoyable without having an agenda as such.
@Marcel - Yep! Springtime Again!
Beautiful recording and mixing Marcel. Similar in experience to RedSkyLullaby's piece but with more traditional instrumentation.
I wouldn't worry about the occasional "wrong" note, it makes it feel more real to me.
@geminiknight05 - Monster Mistake
Manages to be agressive and laid back at the same time! I do love the feel and textures of the grooves you put together but it does feel
like stacking 4 bars of this sound and drum section then another 4 bars of another. I would try to mess around with the timings a bit
and try to get a build going.
@Marcel - Where I Belong
Love this tune and chord progressions. You hold a good tune with your voice but like most people you need to bring the vocals out a bit
and probably sing with a little more intent. The music did hold my interest though with lots of subtle little changes.
@JohnnyGoodyear - An Explanation of the Break-up
You're a better singer than you probably give yourself credit for. Very natural sounding, not forced and your voice has character.
The insistent, slightly annoying (in a good way) organ forms a duet with your voice as the song moves forward which is really nice.
Bringing in a sympathetic female voice, if you were to extend this, would have probably sealed the deal for me. My daughter spontaneously,
and quite unexpectedly, joined in with me warbling along to the guitar one evening recently and it really shook me how powerful this combination can be.
@supadom - JUICER
Great sounding, commercial track. Starts out with some clever lyrics and the variety managed to keep me engaged for the whole track.
It does turn into a bit of jam session and could do with being condensed into a shorter which I think would go down very well.
@Matt_Fletcher_2000 - New High
Up to your usual standards in terms of production and the detail in the drum programming is stunning. But, somehow, this one didn't grab me so much.
I duuno it felt more like a collection of sounds, something that sounds like music. Sorry, and I really enjoy your work normally. Just not this one.
@LostBoy85 - Time Machine '85
You have a very confident singing style. This sounds like something from the TV shows my daughter used to watch.
I'm not aquainted with the session band apps do they create most of this?
@mrufino1 - Touch the sky 5-14-15
That funny voice at the start makes me think of the muppets somehow. The instrumentation is very lively and has an organic feel. You manage to meld
rock band instruments with more synthesized instruments almost seamleessly which is no small feat. Look forward to hearing the finished track..?
Like most I find the comedy singing a little distracting but an interesting insight into your creative process.
@richardyot - Warm Summer Nights (finished version)
It's a good song and I think the singing sounds more confident again but I'm not crazy about everything being drowned in effects, kinda washes
the life out of it a bit.
@richardyot - Warm Summer Nights (remixed finished version)
Yes, much better vocal mix.
@bsantoro - TakeMeBack
It's a little difficult to discuss when I have only heard one tune from you. Your track starts out sounding like a sting for new technology
show but thankfully does get more interesting/less cliched as it progresses. Still can't shift the notion that it is a demo for Synthmaster
but look forward to hearing more from you as you can obviously put a track together.
phew! Fantastic effort. Will try and get round to the rest of the thread tonight.