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Out Now: Korg iM1 Synthesizer for iPad (w/ Gadget integration)

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  • You'll get no correction from me while we live in a world where you've cracked the manual and I haven't.

  • One other question. Does the imported syx files not play the drum sounds in M1?

  • I've posted a quick, rough, demo track I made with some pad patches I created:

    http://forum.audiob.us/discussion/8855/korg-im1-user-created-patches-demo-track#latest

  • @JohnnyGoodyear said:
    You'll get no correction from me while we live in a world where you've cracked the manual and I haven't.

    Just a quiet Saturday afternoon. Read the apptronica ebook too, so that's my quota for this year ;)

  • It seems like the syx files I've seen are all pretty small (and indeed all the same size). I assume that they all use the sample data that comes with the M1, right? There are no syx files that have their own samples, are there?

  • sysex files are patch data only. That's why for any given manufacturer the file size is the same for voice data although some could include sequencer data as part of the sysex which would be larger but the same from file to file. The waveform comes from the synths built-in ROM. That's how it was with hardware. You had to have separate ROM cards for added waveforms and not all synths had that capability. I had a hardware M1 and that's how it worked, separate cards for patch and waveform data. In iM1 you do get waveforms and patch data on the "cards". They're a lot cheaper too! I remember ROM cards costing $50-100 or more for hardware synths! That's why I laugh when people think a $20-30 app is expensive.

  • @anickt said:
    sysex files are patch data only. That's why for any given manufacturer the file size is the same for voice data although some could include sequencer data as part of the sysex which would be larger but the same from file to file. The waveform comes from the synths built-in ROM. That's how it was with hardware. You had to have separate ROM cards for added waveforms and not all synths had that capability. I had a hardware M1 and that's how it worked, separate cards for patch and waveform data. In iM1 you do get waveforms and patch data on the "cards". They're a lot cheaper too! I remember ROM cards costing $50-100 or more for hardware synths! That's why I laugh when people think a $20-30 app is expensive.

    Yeah, I remember buying Star Raiders for the Atari 800. $60 for 8K ROM. In 1980 dollars. :-)

    So when you get the expansion cards, you're getting more waveforms.

  • Yes in iM1 you get a ton of waves in the expansion cards. They are well worth the cost. If you're in Easy mode and you tap on the name of the Multisound you'll get a list of cards and their waveforms on the right side of the interface. Lots to choose from! Those who say the M1 is all 80's-90's presets have never explored too deeply.

  • Analog synths like the Mini Moog, SEM, etc are used to make modern music. Maybe it's time now for digital wavetable synths to start making a comeback?

  • Just got an email update from Korgs zendesk thang, they've submitted an iM1 and Gadget update that'll fix the issue with no iM1 IAPs showing up in Gadget.

  • @ChrisG said:
    Just got an email update from Korgs zendesk thang, they've submitted an iM1 and Gadget update that'll fix the issue with no iM1 IAPs showing up in Gadget.

    Ooh, korg zendesk. Is that public?

  • A couple of days later and with many hours with Korgs iM1, I must say: It's very deep and and advance!
    And Korg have done a very nice GUI also! I really like the way it's look on screen!

    If you dig deep you'll see much sounds to use in modern music also... Outdated? Not!

    I have the original Korg M1 in my collection, and, the Korg iM1 sounds the same, but also much better! No electronic noise that my original M1 generate...

    So much fun to make different Combis and Programs! $30 for everything is silly cheap!

    Now we wait for iWavestation and perhaps iTrinity!

    Love to the guys & Girls in Korg Inc. from Sweden!

  • edited May 2015

    @Jocphone said:
    Ooh, korg zendesk. Is that public?

    Yea it's their official forum over at Korg.com

    Edit: Err well couldn't find it over at Korg.com, no idea how I found it in the first place, but here's the link to the Korg iApp team/forum https://support.korguser.net/hc/communities/public/topics

  • If this progress continues, perhaps we’ll go from additive synths and organs, to analogue emulations to circuitry emulation to fm synthesis and eventually as we have here, a handful of multitimbral S+S boxes and rom players. I suppose the next advancement we have to look forward to is a set of Akai samplers on iOS. Imagine that — a full sampler on an iPad. After that, who knows — non-linear multitrack digital audio recording?

  • edited May 2015

    I've noticed in the vids for the im1 that there's a lot of reverb on the presets - is it possible to play them 'dry' - has the reverb been added or is it part of the sample? Thanks.

  • edited May 2015

    The presets are drenched in reverb, but if the ones I played around with are any indication, the effects can be adjusted to taste. I'm not sure if this is true about the drum sampes, though. The effects can be adjusted, but I think some drums have reverb within the samples.

  • @rocco said:
    The presets are drenched in reverb, but if the ones I played around with are any indication, the effects can be adjusted to taste. I'm not sure if this is true about the drum sampes, though.

    Ah right thanks - I'm particularly interested in the Indian percussion Doug uses on his Darwin vid, but it is drenched in reverb. It'd be a deal breaker for me if I can't turn that off - have you used that preset?

  • I'm not sure which preset he's using, but I checked one of the ethnic percussion kits and it's nowhere near that level of reverb when you turn the effect down.

  • edited May 2015

    The 'Desktop VST/AU' M1 has option to globally disable Insert & Master Effects, Limit Polyphony and also amplify the output (some complain it's output level of iM1 is on the low-side and i agree).

    Hopefully these features will find their way into the iOS/iPad version too.

  • Every hardware synth that came out in the 90's that had built-in FX had every patch swimming in reverb. I remember reviewers begging for a global "FX Off" switch!

  • edited May 2015

    Haha My Yamaha SY-85 has an EF BYPASS button, still love the sounds it makes though :)

  • edited May 2015

    Thanks for the replies. I don't mind a bit of reverb but it's a tad on the heavy side on some of the presets I've heard, though it sounds like some of this has been added via the FX section.

    I'm loving Gadget at the moment, so the iM1 will add a few more sounds to play around with.

  • Most of the reverb is FX. just like the original! :)

    I emailed Korg product support that sysex files should use the Open In function. It's such a handy thing I'm surprised they want to shackle a mobile app to iTunes.

  • @monzo said:
    Thanks for the replies. I don't mind a bit of reverb but it's a tad on the heavy side on some of the presets I've heard, though it sounds like some of this has been added via the FX section.

    I'm loving Gadget at the moment, so the iM1 will add a few more sounds to play around with.

    Yeah. Turn off or change the effects. Just took a Budokan sample that has more boom on it than the South Wales Echo and unchecked the two available for that sample etc. Bone dry.

    Actually, I have a feeling you may be surprised at how much you can fiddle/change every individual sound (far beyond effects).

  • Thanks for checking - is that the case for the percussion (Eastern in particular) as well? Be nice to have these dry so I can add my own FX

  • @monzo said:

    Don't know what Doug used (maybe Etnnic 2 / Per & Drum?), but I'll do you a quick sample..

  • edited May 2015

    @monzo here you go:

    The second sounds are dry and here's the page for them:

    For the record I DID NOT DISABLE IT FROM PLAYING ELSEWHERE BUT YOUTUBE FUCKERS.

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    Ahem. Outbreath. Time for dinner.

  • Haha, thank you for doing that. I think Doug used tablas but it's probably the same. I'm in.

  • Wet or dry, what do you prefer :)

  • @R_2 said:
    Wet or dry, what do you prefer :)

    That's the fellah! Thanks all - time to spend some of Mrs Monzos hard-earned cash!

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