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In your demo AFAIKT you basically destroyed the original sound. Of course I can't be sure because I haven't heard the original sound. I'd be curious to hear it though so I can rectify my opinion if necessary.
What original sound? The sound you hear is the sound I made using waveforms, filtering, modulation, effects, etc..
I thought you were talking about the prominent distorted sound in the song. If not apologies.
Needs 'Next and Previous' buttons, on the big keyboard, for auditioning sounds..
So many sound...
Excellent!
No apology necessary @supadom. I was talking about the massively over-distorted sound in the demo. monzo asked me if I had bought iM1 for use with Gadget and that he thought it sounded a bit 'tinkly' so I posted that to show that you could get more brutal sounds from it should you so wish.
I'm starting to regret using the word 'tinkly'...
@monzo I have arranged for this year's Forum T-shirt.
Do you do an 80's special with shoulder pads?
I feel a bit like I've been happy making vaguely modern 'dance' and 'beats' music with Gadget and suddenly the 'house band' has turned up and wants to be given parts to play.
They're great guys who've been doing their thang since the 80s and 90s - I'm just not sure where and how they're fitting in yet.
That's why I'm hesitating - that 80's/90's pop/house sound leaves me cold. I really want to expand Gadget with more instruments but I think I'm going to pass on this. Enjoying Bilbao though.
Bilbao means you're only restriction is your own imagination - in terms of what you load into it.
Oh, and the 5 sec sample limitation - damn...
@monzo - Try automating the pitches on the different pads and also the effect settings. Great fun, loads of possibilities. You can also automate the start and stop points of each sample on the fly. Means you can glitch stuff nicely and tidy up in the automation lane.
I respectfully take the haddock to you on this one.
This thing is a boatload of every kind of sound, especially for those who can mangle. I believe that if (iOS-wise) Gadget is a useful tool for getting things done, then this will be seen as an indispensible thingie in every well-dressed man's magic trunk or johnny bag.
Can you really mangle the sounds though? I need to work out how to do this effectively and efficiently.
Still working on it, but (initially at least) I like the fact that this is a product which has a complexity that (initially at least) confused me a little, suggesting more depth than the effects in many original gadgets offer.
I think my mangle ref was more aimed at the Mangler-in-Chief Mister Monzo. What I AM really taken with -for all this talk of nineties sounds- is how UN-dance etc etc I can quickly make things be/sound via Darwin....
I'm in favor.
Well of course where they fit in or if at all is totally up to you. Instruments that have been around for 100's of years still find there way very nicely into all kinds of contemporary music styles and this should be no different . I think you may be getting overwhelmed by it and in good time you should be able to get a better feel for what you will or will not want to do with it. I am looking forward in fact to seeing just what gets done with such a huge selection of sound both in and out of gadget!
I already asked in"the other"thread: :it has a"chord"button but the manual just says"play chord sounds".Are they pre defined or can i save my own chords (hit the button and press the keys).Can i save this with programs?
I'm still looking for a nice multimode rompler and i was so much hoping it could be the Sound Canvas.But Roland failed hard (i still can't save ANYTHING in an instrument with thousand(s) of sounds??) so i never use it.When i first saw the iM1 thing i was thinking"don't need"(and i was disappointed that they haven't done something"more exciting"or at least EQs for the Gadget mixer) but it changed now.I guess It IS the Rompler i was waiting for and the Gadget integration is a very welcome addition indeed.It's good that the sale is running until end of june,Synthmaster Pro has to come first.
Okay, Haddock or no haddock, I initially dismissed this one outright as being dated, but now I'm intrigued. I thought Korg were rather scraping the barrel of their Legacy offerings. I'm wondering now can the sounds be really changed, or is it just more of a ROMpler really (nothing wrong with that, of course) ?
I still think the Wavestation 'module' will be perhaps a more interesting one - if it comes along at some point.
I believe, that the type of chords it plays in gadget are preset and not editable - they're the same as how it works in Marseille.
In the actual iM1 app they are more configurable I think. Have a look at the manual (posted above I think). The Kaos pad also lets you play chords of different inversions in iM1 I believe.
I'm sure you're right @Tritonman - I was pleased I got Module for your exact reasoning. In fact I now use a lot of piano in my tracks.
I need to spend more time with iM1 I think.
I was a bit wary of @supadoms point about it not being great at doing "real instruments" though. If those sounds are 30 years old and had major memory restrictions at the time, can they really emulate real instruments at a quality that stands up now? Or am I better finding something in thumbjam or whatever?
Thanks for the answer but - as i wrote in my post - already looked into the manual but it doesn't give any usable info about the chord function.
Well I need to keep at it then. I know what you mean about the complexity of the back engine of iM1. I also thought 'cool' as soon as I saw that.
If I could give them a bit of a haddock mangle in Gadget....I'd be interested as my main interest is using it in that feller, but it sounds as if the mangling haddockery is only possible in standalone. I'm not Elton John, so I don't need tin......plinky keyboard sounds within Gadget. I'm a haddock mangler, so if that's the way it works I might as we mangle my fish in other apps and then bring the bits into Gadget via Bilbao. But I'd still love to be talked into buying the thing.
Does anyone know what I'm talking about?
Im half with you @Monzo.
Neither is ideal. Prepping and pasting other app sounds to Bilbao can be time consuming - and you never get a full patch of a sound.
iM1 will give you a whole Gadget instrument patch from a patch you make in iM1 standalone. But I'm not yet sure how far it can be pushed. Guess it's exciting to experiment and find out.
They've added a resonant LP filter compared to the original M1 so you can actually mangle a bit. Also use it as an analogue synth since there are all the basic waveforms in there as samples.
So basically it's a 2 Osc synth with resonant LPF and 2 insert FX - and the Osc can be either simple waveforms or real samples. You can make some pretty cool combinations I would think.
As far as using them in gadget, you only have access to a subset of parameters that you can tweak and automate:
OSC balance, Cutoff, Resonance, EG Int, Attack time, Decay time, Release time, and wet/dry mix for the two insert fx.
Still, a pretty awesome package for $20-30
Yes monzo, Mr Goodyear is right. There is much mangling to be had. I'm still just cracking it open but there are a ton of waveforms and ways to wrestle with the sounds through filtering and volume etc.. One nice thing I have found is that you can have really long envelope times to create filter and or pitch sweeps that last forever (nearly). Mix that with some choppy volume modulation and a smattering of overdrive (shh) and, well, you've left the eighties well behind. Plus you can multiply that by two for each preset has two of everything. Can't guarantee you will like it but there is plenty to play with.
I'd love to talk you out of it but I'm in your exact position, I'm a tweaked but also seriously dislike non-synth emulators bar maybe TJ and neosoul keys. I even passed on synthmaster. No desire whatsoever but... It's tough tobe on the sidelines when everyone gets so excited. Appoholism ain't no joke either...
I take it you would like to be able to alter sounds in a manner akin to a 'base haddock' being made into an an Arbroath Smokie (sonically speaking) ?
I remember some of the factory presets from playing with it in the store when I was a kid. I think there are a lot of great percussive and world presets in the expansion packs. The M1 does have a signature sound to it to make it more than just a regular rompler. I guess its' a matter of taste.
Hmmm, sounds good, but I think I need to hear more before being convinced. Just did a search on Soundcloud for Korg iM1 and the results were a cloned, tinkly nightmare. I'm up for having my heads turned though *cue sample of gauntlet being casually tossed to the ground
That's the thing. I don't like ROMplers either, but everyone is having an 80's/90's party on here and I want to go too. Maybe I'm fed up with being the forums 70's analogue mangler freak. Maybe I want to create my own Club Classix 91' instead of my usual Terry Riley in whatever minor
I like a nice smoked fish. Kippers etc.