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Song of the Month Club - June
What is the Song of the Month Club?
It's a place where musicians come to give and receive feedback on their work. Anyone is welcome, whatever their level of ability.
The spirit of the club is to contribute: if you submit a song for others to comment on, you should also have the courtesy to listen to everyone else's contributions and give as much feedback as possible. Posting a track and not listening and commenting on others is not cool.
The purpose of feedback is to be honest. Essentially you should give your truthful impressions of the song, whether good or bad. Negative feedback, if done in the right spirit and with courtesy, is often the most useful and can help the artist to grow and improve and correct their mistakes.
All submissions are welcome, don't hesitate if you want to contribute. Instrumentals are very welcome, and songs with vocals are especially encouraged, so if you are thinking of experimenting with vocals this is a good place to get started.
Comments
These are the entries so far for this month:
LostBoy85:
https://m.soundcloud.com/leo-b-5/supanova
A Multitude of One (AKA AlterEgo_UK):
https://m.soundcloud.com/a-multitude-of-one/what-have-you-done
eustressor:
https://m.soundcloud.com/eustressor-1/edge-of-september-cramer-mix
Horse Gas (AKA monzo)
https://m.soundcloud.com/horse-gas/pine-cone-pt-3
Officially Alive (AKA Marcel)
https://m.soundcloud.com/officiallyalive/goodbye-my-love
bsantoro:
https://m.soundcloud.com/bsantoro-1/sm-dnb
JohnyyGoodyear:
https://m.soundcloud.com/johnnygoodyear/i-am-the-big-i-am
Richard Yot:
https://m.soundcloud.com/richardyot/this-is-just-a-test
TouchConspiracy:
https://m.soundcloud.com/touchandcreate-com/mystic-law-rough-edit-dnb
u0421793:
bsantoro:
https://m.soundcloud.com/bsantoro-1/sm-newjazz-sidestick
Fitz:
https://m.soundcloud.com/afitz63/in-the-moment
Igneous1:
https://m.soundcloud.com/formbank/discerning-space
bsantoro:
https://m.soundcloud.com/bsantoro-1/sm-newjazz-sidestick2
Jocphone:
https://m.soundcloud.com/jocphone/slot-slot-some-adelivery
MattFletcher2000:
https://m.soundcloud.com/matt-fletcher-2000/one-word
Great intro, except this bit:
..starts to sound a bit like "All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others".
Instrumentalists have feelings too
Maybe it's controversial, and I'm open to changing it, but I do feel quite strongly that a track with vocals is a lot more powerful than one without. With vocals you have a song, without vocals you have a tune.
Discuss.
Philip Glass. Aphex Twin. Mozart. Miles Davis. Etc etc.
A big thanks to richardyot for organising Song of the month club. Great idea to have a place where we can share our music with fellow IOS musicians. Cheers Richard. I will be both commenting and submitting, when i muster up the courage.
+1
Philip a glass and Mozart wrote "pieces," Mile s Davis wrote "tunes," but you got me on aphex twin! ;-)
Thats in jest of course, but on a jazz gig you'll never hear them say song, it's always tunes, unless there's a singer on the gig, so maybe there's something to that theory. In any event, I think what was meant is don't make an instrumental just because you're afraid to sing. If you make instrumentals, then make instrumentals. If I can submit my Ethel merman like tones, so can anyone else! Ha!
@mrufino1 and @richardyot I think you're right that you need to have vocals for it to be a song...
But I wouldn't agree with the idea that a song is necessarily more powerful or 'better' than a tune (or 'piece' of music). The staying power and emotional power of classical music would be testament to that. Also Jazz and other 'dance music'...
It just comes down to taste in the end doesn't it?
I think there are a lot of instrumental composers and classical music lovers that would disagree with that one
Personally - I prefer listening to tracks with vocals than instrumentals, but I think at the end of the day it's down to the piece of music in question. On the one hand I can find a lot of classical music difficult to listen to as it's so emotive, yet a lot of 'pop' music with vocals will come across as a dull blanket of blandness. Audio morphine.
Unfortunately my singing voice fits in the above category, so I tend to stick with instrumental/sampled pieces.
I think for the purpose of this thread though all music should be equal, as most of us are probably going to fit into the instrumentalist category - and you don't want to put people off from submitting.
I think I like music with lyrics equally as much as without. It really depends on the quality of the track doesn't it? And what mood you are in. And the genre.
I certainly wouldn't say, for example, that house music with vocals is better than house music without vocals. A lot of dance music you really want to listen to the music itself and not have some rubbish / cheesy vocals over the top
... The odd vocal sample, maybe - but often it is mangled and becomes more of an instrument / FX than lyrics...
I like to keep a very open mind and embrace all types and forms of music to be honest (genre-agnostic)... Just needs to be the 'best' of each type - not the rubbish, dumbed down, or copy cat stuff.
A bad vocal is better than no vocal >
I have to say I can't agree with this. A bad anything part just detracts. I'm biased as I make (mostly) instrumental music.
OK, as I am a benevolent dictator, rather than merely a tyrant, I will rephrase the terms. I will still state that we encourage vocals, because I really think it's been good to encourage people to sing, but I'll be more careful not to alienate instrumentalists.
My thinking there is that the SOTMC is a place to encourage people to come out of their shell and sing, which many people are understandably nervous about, so for beginning vocalists we are willing to give some slack.
Saying 'instrumental is less powerful than with vocals' isn't quite true but it is definitely true that lyrics add another dimension to the composition in a similar way to arty video adding another dimension to music.
Do good work, do it in the time allotted, share it, benefit from the discipline it takes to get something done and receive friendly honest feedback that you can use or leave as you like.
There is no disagreement with the fact that some of the great pieces of music in the human experience have no lyrics, however most of us have some interest in writing completed songs and many of those will ideally likely have some vocal element.
The original and I believe ongoing intention behind SOTMC is to provide an imaginary rod for most of us who labor mostly alone and may suffer from procrastination to get something finished, at least to decent draft level within a certain period. Taking the slightly longer view, the idea is also that while not every piece initially submitted will be perfect, the exercise will allow for improvement in the very areas where one knows one is weakest or least confident.
For many of us that area is either the use/singing of words or the discipline required to incorporate words fully into a piece and thereby also look at changes/choruses/breaks/structure/narrative etc.
The wonderful world of iOS allows us to create many smaller pieces that are polished and pretty, but perhaps that's all they are, and nothing wrong with that etc etc but SOTMC is a rare place where one can hold ones own feet artificially to the fire to get things done.
All songs are welcome, but there are other places, at this forum and beyond to submit and share other types of efforts and while we surely will not exclude anything folks want to post, of course not, the way for us each to get the most bang for the buck here is focus on the intrinsic idea, and it's a good one, behind this initiative.
While it may feel like it, this isn't a showcase, it's a work space, and it's up to each of us to decide what it is we need to work on the most. There are very few judgment-free / ego-bullshit-free safe places populated by largely like-minded souls in this creative world where neither your mother nor your competitor exist. I think SOTMC in its own small way is and can be such a place.
Steps down from podium, gets more coffee.
On reflection I have to confess that I messed up - the one thing that I wanted to avoid with this club was any hint of elitism, and my wording with the vocals clause completely failed in that respect.
I'd actually suggest to change the name of the club to 'song a month club' since we are not choosing THE song of the month. Unless it isn't just one song a month.
@richardyot I must apologise. My remark was supposed to be a little tongue in cheek, throw away comment. Unfortunately it appears to have stirred something up which many people wish to discuss. Would it be possible to rename this thread to "About the Song of the Month" and start the real thing afresh so that people can continue to discuss here without clogging up the actual Song of the Month? Is that possible or desirable?
@Jocphone We still love you (and your gritty Northern throwaway remarks), but it's true we've been clicking our plates and kicking our heels more than usual:)
Thanks @JohnnyGoodyear. There is a palpable sense of excitement forming around the SOTMC I think. We just need reining in occasionally..
I like the fact we have a founder... so i'd vote for / support Richard to have the final say on these things...
Personally i'd leave the name since for each of us, it is kind of about "the song of the month" - we might start a few ideas, but at the end of the month we need to deliver "the song of the month"... And once a name has traction...
I also get the point about specifically encouraging sung parts... I think that's cool. I won't post my voice much (actually you never never know - 'VBot' is pretty cool)... but I think it's great to hear people singing on tracks (getting better every month) and I also get the fact that a lot of types of music (rock music for example? Country?) do generally need vocals.
I was just interested in the debate purely from a musical point of view... it's an interesting question...
And I don't feel discriminated against in any way
- I always get loads of really useful and thoughtful feedback every month.
BENIGN DESPOTS RULE!
I decree the name stays as it is, the thread stays partly derailed and we continue under my benign guidance as we were.
The discussion was good, please feel free to speak openly to the Dear Leader.
Bellyfeel!
The word bellyfeel refers to a blind, enthusiastic acceptance of an idea. “Consider, for example, such a typical sentence from a Times leading article as ‘Oldthinkers unbellyfeel Ingsoc.’ The shortest rendering one could make of this in Oldspeak would be: ‘Those whose ideas were formed before the Revolution cannot have a full emotional understanding of the principles of English Socialism.’ But this is not an adequate translation...Only a person thoroughly grounded in Ingsoc could appreciate the full force of the word bellyfeel, which implied a blind, enthusiastic and casual acceptance difficult to imagine today.” -Orwell’s 1984 appendix
Doubleplusgood Johnny Goodyear
Good reference. I probably never read the appendix. Fantastic insight as always from Orwell. There's so much bloody bellyfeel around today, I feel.
@Matt_Fletcher_2000 Prescient bugger, wasn't he? I doubt he would spend the time, but I imagine him having a twitter account @TheRealMisterBlair. Would like to read it. Newspeak seemed like extravagant and somewhat paranoid parody when I first came across it. Not so much anymore.
If Orwell and Burgess would have collaborated on their respective dystopian visions, it would have been a nigh indecipherable masterpiece chock full of doublethink and requiring at least 4 milk pluses to sort out.
Facinating person, Orwell. Diliberately spent considerable time living on the streets as a vagrant and also worked at the COI producing propaganda for the Brirish Gov. Oh, and fought in a war in Spain.
Can't honestly say I've had the same variance of experiences so far...
Well, the day's wound down and I'm feeling somewhat maudlin and I can only say that your comment increases the feeling, however it must be said that, pity as it might be, Orwell was dead at 46, leaving the rest of us, perhaps, at least a little time to at least make some effort.
He's, understandably, mostly known now for his books, but I find him to be a superb essayist, especially if you read his work in the precise context of when it was written.