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So far it's not possible. One of the next updates will give you the possibility to map MIDI the way you want to do it, even in a more flexible way.
@Christian
Can you ask Waldorf Attack developer to fix one problem for me and all users?
see photo 1.
When you on Pattern page, you open up PTN pattern selection box, you can see that the box is too wide with too big grey area on each side. This causes me trouble!
Normally, you choose a pattern number in this box, and then what is the next logic step? the fact is you intend to change or choose a number to paste your copy pattern to a new pattern number by using the lower Track Tools button to paste the track and by using Pattern Tools button (being hided by this box) to paste all track patterns to different selected Pattern page number for copy & paste job.
What I found is you can design a double click action in that grey area after you change pattern number, You do not have to go back up with your thumb to press that upper PTN button again to close it. Because your thumb is not long enough to straight pressing that PTN! It is very troublesome for right thumb to move up that much of distance to make a job down.
Another option is by making the two grey smaller, You actually can see and touch the Pattern Tools button by tap it straight the speed up with your right thumb when you holding you iPad with.
Hope this tiny detail will make more friendly use! Otherwise, the Attack already laborsome tasks can make jobs more difficult!
Thank you for your assisting here!
Really happy to hear this I'm sure every user will implement Attack differently in their setup. For me, it's using Attack as a sound module, triggered from my MPC. The MIDI mapping will be a big deal. I'll be looking forward to it!
Well, the apps u listed are certainly a tweakers delight:)
@Christian
Btw, Can you ask to make more speedy PTN number selection with increasing rolling speed method or a bar tool to jump numbers! Otherwise how can I copy patten number 1 to pattern number 100!
Should I press 100 times the plus sign till I arrive to pattern 100?
Your hint will be appreciated!
Thanks Kaikoo, good point.
No need for me to ask the developer. Hate talking to myself, most of the times ;-)
I`ve implemented this just a minute ago =-D
Now there is a Previous- and Next Pattern in the "Tools" menue.
@Christian
Just a thought!
If I will get that Nave Sound through Attack! Complete environment like Korg Gadget did! or like zMors Modular IAA slot within! You have the strenth to do that! That is the way Korg manipulate!
No sample mthod!
Good for Waldorf sales on this butterfly effect!
You don't need to tap 100 times the plus sign to get to pattern 100. Just tap on the big white area (called textfield;-) between the minus and plus sign and a keyboard will pop up.
Hope this helps a bit ;-)
Awesome! Thank you, Christian
Yes. The pattern thingie. Driving me batty Captain. Good question and good response @Christian.
Sleeping time you all, Christian works hard and burning midnight oil.
I used to drink the midnight oil at one time, I get more done these days....
@Christian:
About the copy/paste of patterns, I would highly appreciate a "duplicate" (to next pattern) option (unless is there already and I've missed it-I'm waiting for the sound screen bug fixing update...).
Surely I'm not the only one that hates to move to an empty pattern, then stopping all sound, while creating music. This little improvement will also make the app a lot more improvisation-friendly.
To be able to set groups of patterns to loop is my other most wanted feature.
Thanks for the app and for being so receptive. I've been waiting for a 16 MIDI channel great-sounding synth like this one forever.
Dont remember where it was but you can tap and hold on number, move finger up or down and number changed, more higher your finger was more rapidly number changed
You may not talk to yourself yet..............................
That is good news. With that change and midi learn- I won't need ANY other drum apps accept for drum jams.
Another very happy Attacker here. I'm having a great time exploring the vocoder and the envelopes. To work around the missing 4bar loop it's quick and easy to copy&spate a loooong song. Christian is preparing some updates. All good!
Just another quick query from an on-the-fencer: apart from the vocoder feature, what else does this app bring to the table that can't be achieved via, say Gadget?
The synth controls and drum sounds are great - but couldn't you do the same thing in Gadget, and with more control over the sequencer? I feel like I'm still lacking a really good, drum app - would Attack fill that gap or is it just another self-contained noise maker that does a few bits of everything reasonably well?
The developers have failed to sell this one to me so far, and obviously the bug reports, Dougs critical vid and one-star ratings in the app store don't help - so I'm counting on forum members to encourage me to relinquish the vice-like grip I have on my wallet - my appitis demands drum food.
@monzo
well, I am novice, but I know this is the only package delivers you "komplete" drum and percussion sound "synthesis", with sequencer, effects, plus 2 samplers per track for song production. There is no other app deliver this for you. with Ab and IAA. This is persuadingly compelling. And the first time in iPad music app history you have this things.
Oh, forgot to say, if you want 24 tracks all using samples on sequencer! How is that sound! Can other apps sequence these things for you with all filters on and all envelopes on and all effects on? Not compeliing with $15? Listen, If I were Waldorf, I don't need your dolloars! You might give me worst opinion + refunding the app.
@monzo
I'm such a noob in recording, mixing, synthesizing, just began with iOS. This app lets me explore and learn a lot (alotALOT) about the world of short snappy sounds - so far. It's fun to build a synth kit from the scratch. First attempt for me...
@Christian I have been playing with Attack now for a few hours. Am really enjoying all the little features that make this a unique, hmm, I was going to say drum machine but clearly it is much more than that. Reading the manual has given me much better insight into the logic of the user interface. The section on how classic electronic drum sounds were created is pretty interesting too.
One thing I noticed, in the step panel there is an option for MIDI control change where you can set an ID and value per step. What is this for? Is it for controlling external apps, or can you change settings in Attack itself? Does Attack respond to Control Change messages, I didn't see anything in the manual?
@monzo have been playing with Attack for a little while now and I could probably describe Gadget and Attack as being 2 sides of the same coin. Gadget obviously has a lead in stability and maturity but Attack has some nice little tricks of it's own. They are very similar in a lot of ways and you could probably use either as a self-contained mini-DAW. Where I think it would struggle is if you tried to create anything with a longish or evolving melody.
The drum synth has more depth than any of London or Bilbao or Darwin percussion but is also quite limited, in it's own ways, if you compare it to other synths. Also the fact that you get all of these synths with Gadget is what brings the great variety. There are nice little features like being able to push a single instrument track forwards and backwards in time or apply swing to individual tracks which can help get around the 16 beats limitation.
It's difficult to say whether it is an essential purchase but it is a lot of fun, if a little "hard work" as Doug put it.
Could I live without it? Yes, probably, but it will be interesting to see whether I make the effort to include it in my workflow in the next few weeks.
As far as I'm aware there's no other ipad synthesis engine which is 16 channel multi-timbral, that's a big deal (and 24 tracks compared to Elastic drums 6).
I think that when the midi learn and sync arrive it will make it a very professional app.
I wouldn't get this for the vocoder, think of that as a bonus. If you are into synthesis tweaking and experimenting, then I can't see why you wouldn't like this but yeah it does require time, I'm still learning it.
As Doug has said himself he's more into playing rather than tweaking so I can see why it's perhaps not his cup of tea.
Ya! It can make as simple as you can, or make as hard as you can! A beast! That is why I said it is for all levels!
@RedSkyLullaby
You are terrific professional for Attack demo! I think I need more of your tutorials videos to give me guidance on how you construct your music. If you don't mind to randomly throw some of your procedures and processes video. We already know you are great! Can you be more great about your knowledge on the Attack! I don't mind you be the best to present Waldorf Attack!
I particular like to know about how you mudulate things. What is Xor, and when you going to choose xor! How the filter sweeps at the moment. How to organise your recordings. How you time your recordings. How to glide and arrange your modulations! If you are wrong about particular track on patterns how you sort out and redo again!
No shame! No shy! Only bravo!
Thank you, the Attack senior!
One thing I like about the videos is the oscilloscope.
I don't have Attack, but xor is a type of digital logic where any inputs that are the same will give you a 0 or false output. You only get a 1 or true output if the inputs are different. Hope that helps.
http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/electronic/ietron/xor.gif
My fault! I am lazy to find out myself. I simply rely on others to do the works!
No worries....it brought back fond memories of days in digital electronics class...fond might be stretching it though.
If an app's bad I am the Customer From Hell. Make me happy and I'll tell the World. No such thing as a refund nowadays though.
Thanks - yeah I think I'd enjoy recording short bursts with this.
Thanks for the feedback. I think this one just sneaks in under the 'fun' end of my price barrier - so it'd get away with being just a 'beer and a noodle' purchase. Like you I'm not sure it'll make it into my workflow but I'm sure it'd provide a few hours of fun, and who knows, they might fix it up to be more of a substantial tool.
Good feedback, so I know what I'm letting myself in for. I think a purchase is on the cards later.