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Patterning App Out Now!!! A New Standard is Set! PURE AWESOMENESS!!!!

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  • edited August 2015

    I managed to export drum kits and a song and then i dropped them into another patterning on another ipad using ifunbox. When i launched patterning they did not show up though. is there anything I need to do to get them to load?

  • I didn't think to use the mixer for midi but that did the trick!

  • Alas, only now do I find out that there isn't an iPhone version (yet). I was looking forward to playing with this one...

  • edited August 2015

    Ya, muting internal sound for midi should be implemented in future release! Do it one by one is the practice for now, do it all at once button should be there in the future version too.

    @benkamen has been asking you guys what is the maximum length you want to import sample?

    Can you guys answer how long? how many seconds? Please answer it, musician folks!

  • edited August 2015

    iphone 6+

  • Upon further noodling, I think the ability to have Kit changes for different patterns is crucial. An absolute must.

  • Congrats to Mr. Olympia for making the front page of the app store as a Best New App.

  • edited August 2015

    benkamen has been asking you guys what is the maximum sample length you want to import sample?

    Can you guys answer how long? how many seconds? Please answer it, musician folks!

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    His suggestion of 20 seconds sounded great, since that's more than enough for four bars at 60 BPM (4 bars=64 1/16 steps).

    It's not like Gadget, where folks are trying to find a workaround to the lack of audio tracks, and are therefore desperately squeezing the most they can from that limited capacity.

    Substantial editing and chopping on longer audio clips would probably be done outside this app, and 20 secs would still allow for medium-length loops to be imported and treated to taste.

  • edited August 2015

    @Icepulse said:
    Upon further noodling, I think the ability to have Kit changes for different patterns is crucial. An absolute must.

    +1, This should be the most important and essential feature than anything if not toying it. (including user kit with user samples in it)

  • so it looks like the most important things going forward for this great app are

    getting audio export !!!!!!!!

    preserving midi settings,

    and switching out different kits with patterns and vice versa

    and once we get freeform/snap nudge this $9 app is going to give allot of hardware a run for it's money

  • would be sweet to even have a seperate track on the song timeline for kit changes that could run independantly at a different interval.

    @Icepulse said:
    Upon further noodling, I think the ability to have Kit changes for different patterns is crucial. An absolute must.

  • @Janie said:
    Congrats to Mr. Olympia for making the front page of the app store as a Best New App.

    Huzzah! In fact I think a well desevered break is likely in order before jumping on our various whines and whimpers. This thing is a total game changer for me. Would love to hear what you folks are making with it. So versatile!

  • no breaks before audio export please......... but I concur it looks like a great app, Olympia should be proud.

  • Thanks everyone -- I know there's a few kinks to work out (it is version 1.0 after all!) and work flow improvements that can be made, but I'm glad you all seem to be enjoying it nonetheless!

    @bennorland
    Crash reports are really really helpful, so if you do encounter a crash send me the report :
    1) Open Settings app
    2) Go to Privacy, then Diagnostics & Usage
    3) Select Diagnostics & Usage Data
    4) Locate the log for the crashed app. The logs will be named in the format: __
    5) Select the desired log. Then, using the text selection UI select the entire text of the log. Once the text is selected, tap Copy
    6) Paste the copied text to Mail and send to support @ olympianoiseco dot com

  • edited August 2015

    @AudioGus you'll need to use "open in" with the exported file to open the drum kit in the new app

  • @TedBPhx said:
    Is there a midi only switch? Per track? Or just null it in the mixer like I did?

    yea you just gotta turn down the volume for now!

  • cool, i tried this the first time but patterning was not availible. For some reason now it shows up!

    @benkamen said:

    AudioGus you'll need to use "open in" with the exported file to open the drum kit in the new app

  • @Kaikoo said:
    Ya, muting internal sound for midi should be implemented in future release! Do it one by one is the practice for now, do it all at once button should be there in the future version too.

    I've barely had a chance to play with the app so I'm not even sure if this is possible but can you save a kit with silent samples as your 'midi out' kit?

  • edited August 2015

    @syrupcore said:
    I've barely had a chance to play with the app so I'm not even sure if this is possible but can you save a kit with silent samples as your 'midi out' kit?

    I am not sure what I was talking about! But after more playing, be honest, I found that doing midi sequencing on the circle is more difficult than doing horizontal sequencing! Many people want Patterning be a midi something!

    When change different pattern, the user sample will be wiped off on old patterns made if you are using different kit for a new pattern, so it is so important that users can save their own sample on their own sample kit. And a song should contain different kits that can make fully complex drum track.

    No, midi out has nothing to do with samples.

  • @samu

    Time signature can be found in here, see photo

  • @Kaikoo It's not time-signature I'm after, a 'triplet beat' is still 4/4 but each beat is divided differently due to timing, 1/8t 'triplets' use 3 steps per beat while 1/16t 'trplets' use 6 steps per beat. 'Triplet-Swing' is not 3/4 'Waltz-Music' ;)

    So what I'm suggesting is that the 'ring grid' represent the time signature set on the song page but the beat-division sets the 'slices per beat' instead of just drawing a beat-marker every 4 slices. So if I set the beat division to 1/16t each beat is 6 slices long.

    Technically it works already if I set the pattern lenght to 24 and 'speed' to 1/16t but it shows up as 6 beats and not 4 beacuse the app assumes every beat is 4 steps long regardless of the current speed/beat division.

    I know @benkamen can fix this :)

  • edited August 2015

    @Samu you're talking about the thicker lines on the grid, that repeat every 4? Yea I think I have a way to modify that already in the code, it's just one of these "where do i fit this in the interface" questions to solve. Or i could assume with triplets that it should be divided in 3s. But there are some other cases where that might not be an appropriate assumption.

    Also, early you were asking about 64th notes... put it in Euclidean mode with 64 steps and there you go :) Euclidean mode always divides a measure of 4/4 into a equal subdivisions.

  • @benkamen said:
    Thanks everyone -- I know there's a few kinks to work out (it is version 1.0 after all!) and work flow improvements that can be made, but I'm glad you all seem to be enjoying it nonetheless!

    I always wince a bit when they tear into a just released app here on the forum but I think you can bask in your glory for doing such a great job on this, at least until tea time.

    Am really enjoying messing with the step lengths. Having a really long sequence for one drum with lots of variation can really spice up a rhythm.

    A couple of things I would like to see addressed when you have the chance are the song play button with audiobus and scrolling the timeline. I was triggering gadget from patterning in order to record melodies/bass lines etc.. But sometimes patterning shifts out of song play when I clicked on the audiobus button. It also does this when you click on a different pattern in the song page, ready to add it to the timeline. Seems to me it should stay in song mode until I decide otherwise but maybe there are other use cases?

    For timeline I find it gets really hard to scroll and otherwise manipulate once a song is above 32 bars. Is there a trick to using the timeline I might have missed?

    None of these issues will stop me using Patterning though. Having a blast putting odd rhythms together!

  • So,it syncs well with Cubasis (as IAA)?How well?Really tight without delay and shaky timing?I have a lot of drummachines and not using one because this is hit or miss for me.Does it have a swing function (another crucial function for me)?

  • edited August 2015

    Happy @Crabman, You should ask Loopy HD developer Michael how well it is, that engine belongs to his invention! There is some averaging inside I guess from his video.

  • curious question does patterning have a way for those of us who like to tap in beats to a metronome, maybe connected to a midi pad controller?

  • Yeah, what is the difference between standard and Euclidean mode?

  • @benkamen said:
    Samu you're talking about the thicker lines on the grid, that repeat every 4? Yea I think I have a way to modify that already in the code, it's just one of these "where do i fit this in the interface" questions to solve. Or i could assume with triplets that it should be divided in 3s. But there are some other cases where that might not be an appropriate assumption.

    Yepp, I was thinking about the thicker 'beat-lines'.
    For 1/8t it's divided by 3, 1/16t it's divided by 6.

    Also, early you were asking about 64th notes... put it in Euclidean mode with 64 steps and there you go :) Euclidean mode always divides a measure of 4/4 into a equal subdivisions.

    Thanks, didn't think about it that way, makes things a lot easier :)

    For triplets in Euclidean mode one just needs to keep track of step-numbers and 'ignore' the thicker lines.
    A 4/4 'beat' using 1/8 'triplets' on a 12 slice euclidian ring in makes the downbeats fall on 1,4,7 & 10 while the 'beat-lines' are drawn on 1,5 & 9, no worries...

  • @Samu said:

    Is your questions on triplet solved, since you are the expert user? I have no idea of your satisfaction. If you satisfied, I think no one can argue more about triplet thingie! Let't not talk copy and paste here.

  • It's great mixing Patterning kits with kits from other apps via midi out :)
    MIDI Learn would be a great feature, with kit change cc's

    I tried syncing with multitrack studio clock and it synced well, great in fact. Initially I thought it didn't work, started playing back slowly. Like a car motor coming to life. Stopping and starting it again made the sync the correct timing.

    Loving Patterning :)

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