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Jim Audio Groove Rider 2 - RELEASED

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  • It’s a miracle. I actually finished a track. Thanks to GR2!!
    First thing I have finished in ages on iPad or desktop. I'm liking the balance GR2 offers - options but not too many options.

    Question about exporting audio....
    When you export audio (song) to the GR2 folder it goes to Samples>Export. If you click to play the file it just opens GR2. Is that expected behaviour? I guess it's more for exporting loops to your GR2 sample library.

    For rendering a song to listen to, it seems you have to share the export and save to files. Is that the way it's meant to be done?

  • @soundtemple said:
    It’s a miracle. I actually finished a track. Thanks to GR2!!
    First thing I have finished in ages on iPad or desktop. I'm liking the balance GR2 offers - options but not too many options.

    Question about exporting audio....
    When you export audio (song) to the GR2 folder it goes to Samples>Export. If you click to play the file it just opens GR2. Is that expected behaviour? I guess it's more for exporting loops to your GR2 sample library.

    For rendering a song to listen to, it seems you have to share the export and save to files. Is that the way it's meant to be done?

    I think thats standard ios behavior when you open a file inside an app folder, ive seen it before with flsm

  • @soundtemple said:
    It’s a miracle. I actually finished a track. Thanks to GR2!!
    First thing I have finished in ages on iPad or desktop. I'm liking the balance GR2 offers - options but not too many options.

    Question about exporting audio....
    When you export audio (song) to the GR2 folder it goes to Samples>Export. If you click to play the file it just opens GR2. Is that expected behaviour? I guess it's more for exporting loops to your GR2 sample library.

    For rendering a song to listen to, it seems you have to share the export and save to files. Is that the way it's meant to be done?

    And congrats on finishing music!

  • @cokomairena thanks. Yeah it's fine once you get used to it, just seems counter-intuitive at first to share your song instead of save to export folder.

  • @soundtemple said:
    It’s a miracle. I actually finished a track. Thanks to GR2!!
    First thing I have finished in ages on iPad or desktop. I'm liking the balance GR2 offers - options but not too many options.

    Question about exporting audio....
    When you export audio (song) to the GR2 folder it goes to Samples>Export. If you click to play the file it just opens GR2. Is that expected behaviour? I guess it's more for exporting loops to your GR2 sample library.

    For rendering a song to listen to, it seems you have to share the export and save to files. Is that the way it's meant to be done?

    I insert an instance of Neon in a Master Bus FX slot to capture the mix. I can trim, normalize, fade, convert output format and share easily from within Neon.

  • @GRiker interesting approach
    So you can record arm in Neon to capture on playback?

  • @soundtemple said:
    @GRiker interesting approach
    So you can record arm in Neon to capture on playback?

    Yes. Rewind GR2, enable Settings | Audio Monitor (ON), enable Sync, then touch Record to arm.

    It’s a good idea to put a limiter or maximizer in front of Neon, as recommended in the GR2 manual. So I usually put Neon in the last of the 3 Master Bus slots.

  • I want to thank @jwmmakerofmusic especially for looking out on this one

    This is certainly at the number one spot for app of the year

    Man this is the Best groovebox i ever saw, or touched. And it’s really gorgeous

    Thank you so much Jim
    Your kindness and support will always be remember and appreciated

    And Fwiw I still think you are the absolute best producer on our awesome forum and our little community, capable of doing any genre and this app would be candy for you, so I get why you love it so much

    Again, thanks Jimbo

    [And thank you @Michael - if you didn’t make this forum basically “open source” for all iOS and iPadOS dev, I don’t know where I or we would be right now, especially me man, thanks to you from the bottom of my heart ]

    You two are true, blue friends, and true experts at what you do respectively, but most of all , good human beings man

    —————
    With that said Groove rider 2 rules !!

  • @yellow_eyez said:
    I want to thank @jwmmakerofmusic especially for looking out on this one

    This is certainly at the number one spot for app of the year

    Man this is the Best groovebox i ever saw, or touched. And it’s really gorgeous

    Thank you so much Jim
    Your kindness and support will always be remember and appreciated

    And Fwiw I still think you are the absolute best producer on our awesome forum and our little community, capable of doing any genre and this app would be candy for you, so I get why you love it so much

    Again, thanks Jimbo

    [And thank you @Michael - if you didn’t make this forum basically “open source” for all iOS and iPadOS dev, I don’t know where I or we would be right now, especially me man, thanks to you from the bottom of my heart ]

    You two are true, blue friends, and true experts at what you do respectively, but most of all , good human beings man

    —————
    With that said Groove rider 2 rules !!

    I agree 100% mate! Groove Rider 2 rules! And you're a good chap. Take it easy mate. Cheer. 🥂

  • Found a wierd bug. On the mixer section. If you solo a track and then drag that soloed track, the solo doesn’t follow the track but stays on the same track position.

  • @cyberheater said:
    Found a wierd bug. On the mixer section. If you solo a track and then drag that soloed track, the solo doesn’t follow the track but stays on the same track position.

    Seems to work fine here.

  • @Edward_Alexander said:

    @cyberheater said:
    Found a wierd bug. On the mixer section. If you solo a track and then drag that soloed track, the solo doesn’t follow the track but stays on the same track position.

    Seems to work fine here.

  • @cyberheater said:

    @Edward_Alexander said:

    @cyberheater said:
    Found a wierd bug. On the mixer section. If you solo a track and then drag that soloed track, the solo doesn’t follow the track but stays on the same track position.

    Seems to work fine here.

    Correction: its doing the same exact thing here, so yeah, I guess that is a bug.

  • @Edward_Alexander said:

    @cyberheater said:

    @Edward_Alexander said:

    @cyberheater said:
    Found a wierd bug. On the mixer section. If you solo a track and then drag that soloed track, the solo doesn’t follow the track but stays on the same track position.

    Seems to work fine here.

    Correction: its doing the same exact thing here, so yeah, I guess that is a bug.

    Thanks for confirming

  • Have to say it is a big downer not to be able to monitor audio input and use guitar auv3 like tonex.

  • @yonhorizon said:
    Have to say it is a big downer not to be able to monitor audio input and use guitar auv3 like tonex.

    Have you tried routing the part directly to an FX bus or a Master FX where AUv3 FX can be loaded? You can do that with the Button at the top of the output section at the right of the part.

    Too late tonight to try myself, but I'll give it a go in the morning.

  • @wim said:

    @yonhorizon said:
    Have to say it is a big downer not to be able to monitor audio input and use guitar auv3 like tonex.

    Have you tried routing the part directly to an FX bus or a Master FX where AUv3 FX can be loaded? You can do that with the Button at the top of the output section at the right of the part.

    Too late tonight to try myself, but I'll give it a go in the morning.

    Thanks for chiming in , i guess it will work but i like to have reverb and delay on my sends..
    it could have been an amazing additionn if we could route to the individual send slots ( 1,2,3, )
    That would have been great. Also minimal but opens more auv3 possibilities.

    I think many people also play guitar and would love to have audio input monitor WITH tonex or whatever on top..

    The app is great though and really fun and friendly. I guess those are the only things that crucial from my point if view

  • edited February 2025

    41 pages of postings already?
    Impressive!

    @soundtemple said:
    It’s a miracle. I actually finished a track. Thanks to GR2!!
    First thing I have finished in ages on iPad or desktop. I'm liking the balance GR2 offers - options but not too many options.

    And this was more or more easily possible with GR2, compared to GR?

    I mean, what exactly made it more easy for you in GR2 than in GR?

  • And a general question: How does GR2 compare to nanostudio 2?
    It seems to have very similar features ....

  • @busaudio said:
    And a general question: How does GR2 compare to nanostudio 2?
    It seems to have very similar features ....

    I don't think it's like NS2 at all, tbh. For a start, the main song structure mode is clip mode, which isn't even in NS2...

  • @Michael_R_Grant said:

    @busaudio said:
    And a general question: How does GR2 compare to nanostudio 2?
    It seems to have very similar features ....

    I don't think it's like NS2 at all, tbh. For a start, the main song structure mode is clip mode, which isn't even in NS2...

    If you have a timeline of notes or a timeline of patterns of notes ... is sure a difference, but not essential for me.

    If it otherwise is comparable to nanostudio 2 in regard to capabilities, work flow and ease of composing stuff, that would be enough for me.

    But you say "not like it at all", which hints to other major differences or even lacks?

  • @yonhorizon said:
    Have to say it is a big downer not to be able to monitor audio input and use guitar auv3 like tonex.

    Yeah, not the use case in this app sadly. I would love it to be implemented using layers (passing the audio from one layer to the next, and having the first layer receiving input)

  • @yonhorizon said:

    @wim said:

    @yonhorizon said:
    Have to say it is a big downer not to be able to monitor audio input and use guitar auv3 like tonex.

    Have you tried routing the part directly to an FX bus or a Master FX where AUv3 FX can be loaded? You can do that with the Button at the top of the output section at the right of the part.

    Too late tonight to try myself, but I'll give it a go in the morning.

    Thanks for chiming in , i guess it will work but i like to have reverb and delay on my sends..
    it could have been an amazing additionn if we could route to the individual send slots ( 1,2,3, )
    That would have been great. Also minimal but opens more auv3 possibilities.

    You can route to individual MFX slots, and you can set the MFX slots to be parallel. That's a very limiting route, but still leaves the sends free. It would all be a lot easier if we could put AU effects on the inserts.

    If they're excluded from there because of the part parameters, I'd gladly have an option to disable those when AUFx are in use on inserts.

    I think many people also play guitar and would love to have audio input monitor WITH tonex or whatever on top..

    Yeh, I'm not gonna lie, GR-2 is not an encouraging environment for recording guitar and vocals, etc.

    The app is great though and really fun and friendly. I guess those are the only things that crucial from my point if view

    Yep.

  • @yonhorizon said:
    Have to say it is a big downer not to be able to monitor audio input and use guitar auv3 like tonex.

    I'd say Cubasis 3 is great for recording live tracks as well as general music production. Best of luck to you.


    @busaudio said:

    @Michael_R_Grant said:

    @busaudio said:
    And a general question: How does GR2 compare to nanostudio 2?
    It seems to have very similar features ....

    I don't think it's like NS2 at all, tbh. For a start, the main song structure mode is clip mode, which isn't even in NS2...

    If you have a timeline of notes or a timeline of patterns of notes ... is sure a difference, but not essential for me.

    If it otherwise is comparable to nanostudio 2 in regard to capabilities, work flow and ease of composing stuff, that would be enough for me.

    But you say "not like it at all", which hints to other major differences or even lacks?

    GR2 has plenty of similarities to NS2 in terms of its timeline workflow, piano roll, efficiency in getting ideas down quickly, etc. GR2 has limitations that NS2 doesn't have, like being limited to 3 IFX per part (track), no AUv3 on the part IFX, etc. But I've managed to create some really great tracks in GR2 just fine.

  • @busaudio said:
    Thank you, @jwmmakerofmusic

    Of course. :) Let me know if you ever have specific questions.

  • @busaudio said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    @busaudio said:
    Thank you, @jwmmakerofmusic

    Of course. :) Let me know if you ever have specific questions.

    Found this already: https://forum.loopypro.com/discussion/64094/my-xperience-with-groove-rider-2-aka-the-making-of-a-new-album

    Cheers mate. :) Well, if you still have specific questions, feel free to ask me there on my thread. I'm always ready to (over)explain. :mrgreen:

  • @busaudio said:
    41 pages of postings already?
    Impressive!

    @soundtemple said:
    It’s a miracle. I actually finished a track. Thanks to GR2!!
    First thing I have finished in ages on iPad or desktop. I'm liking the balance GR2 offers - options but not too many options.

    And this was more or more easily possible with GR2, compared to GR?

    I mean, what exactly made it more easy for you in GR2 than in GR?

    @busaudio I never had GR1. I like GR2 because

    • its fun to use,
    • it's similar to the workflow I am most used to (coming from Ableton/Bitwig),
    • it has limitations that keep me focused on making music rather than making midi tools, routing hacks,
    • has a fantastic piano roll
    • it allows me to layer sounds easily which is also something I am used to making house music in ableton
    • the stock drum rack and synths are really easy to use and powerful

    If you like making electronic music and are familiar/used to the ableton style workflow, then I think GR2 offers a unique experience. It's like ableton, but a bit more like a groovebox. A great combination of both worlds implemented really well.

  • edited February 2025

    Thank you, @soundtemple

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