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IDK, personally I like it for learning live fingerdrumming with the pad controller
and bought it exactly for this
Octachron is great. I’m in the process of learning drambo and that sequencer works really well too.
Octachron is great with it. It’s got a layout premade for OneShot built in so you won’t have to fiddle with MIDI mapping too much.
I second the fact that it’s good for finger drumming.
I don't think there's an ideal sequencer for it tbh, just depends on personal preference. Any sequencer you use will require a bit of thought and time to set up, as every oneshot kit is a bit different in terms of what notes trigger what kinds of sounds
I use Helium as a midi file browser and sequencer to my library of midi beats.
I use Patterning 3 with OneShot. I usually don't use more than 8 drum sounds anyway.
I use Drambo racks that semi-randomly picks between 1 or 2 midi notes (sometimes 3) for each BD, SD, CC, etc. Most OneShot kits follow this pattern; BD on two different key triggers, SD1 and SD2 on two different etc. Sometimes the default triggers in OneShot are identical for a sound, but it is easy enough to add some variation for one of them in OneShot.
Edit: you could still combine this with Patterning or any other sequencing app in front. I have set up Axon 3 in midi out mode for this. The Drambo rack would then add extra variation by splitting the incoming midi to these OneShot trigger variations.
No need to split MIDI from Patterning, you can randomly transpose notes within a selected scale or use an LFO.
I really like the forest and Glockenspiel kits. Accoustic Oddities and Cajon are my favorites. I wasn't that impressed w/Unholy Drums- I completely agree about the drum layout. Have you tried doubling up ad slapping Ting w/ whatever your sequencing One Shot yet?
I use octachron and i'm guessing Ting/OS shares the same mapping. I simply piggyback Ting to OS in Octachron and get some pretty gnarly results.
Acoustic Oddities is a great pack tho
I wouldn’t want to randomly transpose without limitations, that would be a mess. I want to semi-randomly introduce more variation in the sound by using the other sample(s) of the same kind in OS.
Here you see OS has two triggers for BD, on C2 and to the left. I only want to sequence BD with one note (in Patterning or whatever), then the graphic shaper will here give me the C2 trigger roughly 80 % of the time and the one to the left 20 % of the time. Same for the other sounds, one of them is using a shaper with 3 levels.
I do like the strange kits, but if they didn’t come as part of the completion bundle I doubt I would’ve been as inclined to get them. I’ve done some pairing with Ting but didn’t find a beat I liked. I should go back and put them together on some tracks I know I like to spice them up.
Yeah, I agree. Like I said, you can select the scale, so you could choose only the C and B notes in Patterning to limit the transposition. Then limit the transposition range and frequency and you get basically the same result.
I do it for all the main triggers (see the folded sections, and the text box), to get variations for all drum hits, not only C/B. As with all things in Drambo, things can be done in so many ways. This one is quite adaptable to any given OneShot kit; the related sounds are not always neighbor triggers, and the shaper gives fine control of probabilities, also when the set contains more than two sounds. Anyway, it’s just an idea to get variations without having to micromanage.
Thank you, that's some really good organised stuff. 👍🏻
Edit: ha ha I wrote the above a long time ago and now when visiting this thread again, I realise I must have forgotten to press enter. So, here we go!
Man, super kind of you to share this. Awesome stuff, thanks.
I'm having trouble configuring stand-alone Patterning 2 and 3 to trigger Klevgrand Oneshot. I've tried every combination I can think of on both apps to send/receive etc. but no luck. Anybody care to walk me through it? Searched everywhere and no info that seems to work...
I have tested this combo as well. It can send Midi notes to Klevgrand Oneshot, right from the Audio/Midi+Audio/Midi on the right sidebar of Patterning. Choose Midi only.
You have to send the correct notes in the Patterning track to trigger the corresponding sample in Oneshot
Tested in Drambo
Done and done. No luck, but thanks for the info. I’ve actually heard the correct note when first starting Patterning, then nothing more. iPad Air 5, iOS 18.7.3.
Do you have Background Audio enabled in standalone Patterning 3 so that it doesn't suspend when it isn't in the foreground? It needs to be enabled even if you're only using MIDI, not audio.
Yes, it’s enabled. Patterning 3: MIDI Port TRACK Outport is Patterning 3. MIDI channel 1. Tried all MIDI notes. Tried all P3 MIDI Click send and receive options. Oneshot MIDI In Source is Patterning 3. Channel Omni, have tried all channels. I’d actually prefer using Patterning 2, it has all my previous patterns and drum sets. But no success with either. I must be overlooking something? Thanks…
Can you post screenshots of the setup screens in both apps? You aren’t sending to OneShot and having OneShot listen to patterning by any chance?
Are you sure you are sending the right note numbers—the apps may use different octave numbering.
Yes, to the note numbers, no matter which they are, no luck. Doesn’t seem to help no matter what’s listening to what, I’ve exhausted the options. Perhaps if you have this working successfully, you could elaborate the specifics? I can send captures tomorrow if you still need them, but would like to duplicate your correct settings if possible. Thanks for any help…
Are you running One Shot standalone or in a host? I'll test once I understand what you're doing.
It works fine for me. InnO3: Background audio on in P3. Turn on MIDI for each kit part. Set MIDI Port to Patterning 3. Set MIDI Notes to same note as in OneShot. The apps do use the same octave numbering.
In OneShot, choose Patterning 3 as the MIDI source.
Start patterning 3. It is triggering the notes and any wrong midi notes still animate OneShot’s keyboard and the dots.
You Sir are The Man. Embarrassing to admit I was monitoring Patterning instead of Oneshot. All is sorted. And thanks to Wim too for offering your time and expertise. I am indebted, thank you again @espiegel123. I owe you greatly.
Wonder if they will update the iOS version?
It's a paid update on the desktop so it'll most likely be a new purchase or something like that...
Looks like it would make a good free update, not a completely new program. That’s extremely disappointing given the state of the ipad version the past year. I have doubts they’ll even port this one to ipad now.
Anyone know the cost of the upgrade on desktop for existing oneshot v1 owners?