OneShot! By Klevgrand (Released on iOS)

Robin2 · March 11

@Gavinski said:
I wonder whether they'll manage to avoid a shitshow in regards to bundle pricing if/when they launch this on iOS. Oneshot has often been heavily discounted so I'd imagine a similar debacle to VS2, where most existing owners will get no discount at all for upgrading. Hope I'm wrong.

Those heavily discounted sales suddenly make more sense now that we all realize they’d been working on its replacement all along.

If they go with a bundle as a discount option for existing owners, I, for one, won’t be getting much of a discount which, in reality, will most likely mean I don’t buy it. Will be interesting to see how this one pans out price wise.

Gavinski · March 11

@Robin2 said:
So, can the motion engine be used as> @Gavinski said:

I wonder whether they'll manage to avoid a shitshow in regards to bundle pricing if/when they launch this on iOS. Oneshot has often been heavily discounted so I'd imagine a similar debacle to VS2, where most existing owners will get no discount at all for upgrading. Hope I'm wrong.

Those heavily discounted sales suddenly make more sense now that we all realize they’d been working on its replacement all along.

If they go with a bundle as a discount option for existing owners, I, for one, won’t be getting much of a discount which, in reality, will most likely mean I don’t buy it. Will be interesting to see how this one pans out price wise.

It's clear that many devs don't understand the bundle system properly so if devs keep doing new versions of apps every few years, and existing users aren't getting any incentive to upgrade, I think devs will learn the hard way that many users, like you, will not be willing to upgrade. Again, not really anyone's fault other than Apple's, they should have a system in place for paid upgrades.

oldsynthguy · March 11

@Gavinski said:

@Robin2 said:
So, can the motion engine be used as> @Gavinski said:

I wonder whether they'll manage to avoid a shitshow in regards to bundle pricing if/when they launch this on iOS. Oneshot has often been heavily discounted so I'd imagine a similar debacle to VS2, where most existing owners will get no discount at all for upgrading. Hope I'm wrong.

Those heavily discounted sales suddenly make more sense now that we all realize they’d been working on its replacement all along.

If they go with a bundle as a discount option for existing owners, I, for one, won’t be getting much of a discount which, in reality, will most likely mean I don’t buy it. Will be interesting to see how this one pans out price wise.

It's clear that many devs don't understand the bundle system properly so if devs keep doing new versions of apps every few years, and existing users aren't getting any incentive to upgrade, I think devs will learn the hard way that many users, like you, will not be willing to upgrade. Again, not really anyone's fault other than Apple's, they should have a system in place for paid upgrades.

I paid full price for the iOS version, so should get a discount on the bundle. I won’t be bothering though.

Tomofon 2 next?

justaglove · March 11

@ecou said:

@Gavinski said:

@justaglove said:
Haven't been able to use custom slots since release until a month ago, two years of people reporting the same bug for it to finally get fixed and then ask for us to buy a new version.

The first one was marketed behind being easy to use your own sounds in the program, it was impossible to do anything but use and edit presets for two years. I'm happy with the sounds it makes, but the software is/was shit. You cannot scale the UI at all either.

Remind me what the problem was with custom slots? And any idea why it took them so long to fix it?

I contacted Klevgrad support this summer and they put me in touch with the dev. I had a couple exchange. Suggested something. Dint work o. First try. He came out with multiple beta, I guess fixing different stuff, it finally came out a month ago.

Did anybody contact support ?

Yes brother you were not the only one reporting the same bug or the first person. The bug has been present and reported since the app was first released in Sept 2024.

I’m happy they worked with you, but they took too long and dropped the support for the app, look at the reality and not your own satisfaction.

People spent more money on preset packs than the app even costs, that they couldn’t use for years. Your own sounds? Forget about it!!

gregsmith · March 11

@Gavinski said:

@gregsmith said:

@Gavinski said:

@justaglove said:
Haven't been able to use custom slots since release until a month ago, two years of people reporting the same bug for it to finally get fixed and then ask for us to buy a new version.

The first one was marketed behind being easy to use your own sounds in the program, it was impossible to do anything but use and edit presets for two years. I'm happy with the sounds it makes, but the software is/was shit. You cannot scale the UI at all either.

Remind me what the problem was with custom slots? And any idea why it took them so long to fix it?

If memory serves, you would load your own sample in which would work for that session, but when you closed and opened the session the slots would be corrupted and you’d have to load the samples in again.

The workaround was to save the slots off as user presets before closing the project, but I think this just made it easier to reload them when corrupted. I just stopped using oneshot at that point.

I’m guessing they fixed it whilst developing oneshot 2 so they were able to apply that fix to oneshot. I don’t really care as long as I can keep using it now it’s fixed for a reasonable amount of time.

Right, but the annoyance of people who were using this to load their own samples is definitely fully justified, that's terrible to have had to wait so long for a fix

Yes completely agree it’s a poor effort on the dev’s part.

sigma79 · March 11

So I were right going on like a moron throughout thread.

aka the goodness of using samples instead per track but forsaking Realism for Host track functionality.

Im at the middle ground when it comes to drums.

No weird drum machines like Batalion much available ( I call these Squelchy drums ) Synthy drums .

Not the best realism for Acoustic samples either.

Its just sample any sound.

Trigger.

Done.

Building IOS drum machines ( since 2019 )

ecou · March 11

@justaglove said:

@ecou said:

@Gavinski said:

@justaglove said:
Haven't been able to use custom slots since release until a month ago, two years of people reporting the same bug for it to finally get fixed and then ask for us to buy a new version.

The first one was marketed behind being easy to use your own sounds in the program, it was impossible to do anything but use and edit presets for two years. I'm happy with the sounds it makes, but the software is/was shit. You cannot scale the UI at all either.

Remind me what the problem was with custom slots? And any idea why it took them so long to fix it?

I contacted Klevgrad support this summer and they put me in touch with the dev. I had a couple exchange. Suggested something. Dint work o. First try. He came out with multiple beta, I guess fixing different stuff, it finally came out a month ago.

Did anybody contact support ?

Yes brother you were not the only one reporting the same bug or the first person. The bug has been present and reported since the app was first released in Sept 2024.

I’m happy they worked with you, but they took too long and dropped the support for the app, look at the reality and not your own satisfaction.

People spent more money on preset packs than the app even costs, that they couldn’t use for years. Your own sounds? Forget about it!!

The presets packs did not work for you ? I bought Unholy drum and had no problem with it.

gregsmith · March 11

@unlink said:
Just FYI I contacted Klevgrand two weeks ago for the Oneshot multi out not working on latest Logic Pro and they said they weren’t aware of the issue but they would have fixed that.

This problem? Did they say it’ll be sorted?

Edit: just got the corrupted slot issue instantly as well 🙃
It’s loaded ok since that time though.

unlink · March 12

@gregsmith said:

@unlink said:
Just FYI I contacted Klevgrand two weeks ago for the Oneshot multi out not working on latest Logic Pro and they said they weren’t aware of the issue but they would have fixed that.

This problem? Did they say it’ll be sorted?

Edit: just got the corrupted slot issue instantly as well 🙃
It’s loaded ok since that time though.

They said:

oldsynthguy · March 12

I noticed there were a whole bunch of critical comments about the new version on their two YouTube videos yesterday, but they've all now miraculously disappeared.

Funny that.

gregsmith · March 12

@unlink said:

@gregsmith said:

@unlink said:
Just FYI I contacted Klevgrand two weeks ago for the Oneshot multi out not working on latest Logic Pro and they said they weren’t aware of the issue but they would have fixed that.

This problem? Did they say it’ll be sorted?

Edit: just got the corrupted slot issue instantly as well 🙃
It’s loaded ok since that time though.

They said:

I’ve emailed their support too. Hopefully it’ll bring the fix forward by a year or so.

timforsyth · March 12

@gregsmith said:

@unlink said:

@gregsmith said:

@unlink said:
Just FYI I contacted Klevgrand two weeks ago for the Oneshot multi out not working on latest Logic Pro and they said they weren’t aware of the issue but they would have fixed that.

This problem? Did they say it’ll be sorted?

Edit: just got the corrupted slot issue instantly as well 🙃
It’s loaded ok since that time though.

They said:

I’ve emailed their support too. Hopefully it’ll bring the fix forward by a year or so.

I just got an email back from Michael at Unfiltered Audio saying he's reproduced the issue and has a fix for the multiout logic problem in battalion.

I got some info from him and will pass to the guys at Klevgrand to see if it helps speed things up

Apparently there's a new requirement for multi out where you must have 16 multi out busses now. Previously plugins could get away with less than 16

ecou · March 12

Saw this in the comment section of YouTube.

pseudophysics · March 12

@ecou said:
Saw this in the comment section of YouTube.

sweet, thanks for sharing

gregsmith · March 13

@timforsyth said:

@gregsmith said:

@unlink said:

@gregsmith said:

@unlink said:
Just FYI I contacted Klevgrand two weeks ago for the Oneshot multi out not working on latest Logic Pro and they said they weren’t aware of the issue but they would have fixed that.

This problem? Did they say it’ll be sorted?

Edit: just got the corrupted slot issue instantly as well 🙃
It’s loaded ok since that time though.

They said:

I’ve emailed their support too. Hopefully it’ll bring the fix forward by a year or so.

I just got an email back from Michael at Unfiltered Audio saying he's reproduced the issue and has a fix for the multiout logic problem in battalion.

I got some info from him and will pass to the guys at Klevgrand to see if it helps speed things up

Apparently there's a new requirement for multi out where you must have 16 multi out busses now. Previously plugins could get away with less than 16

Good stuff. Hopefully an easy fix then.

Ailerom · March 13

Have they done anything that would improve the packaging of preset/samples monolith or other system. To make it possible to use cross platform?

Pxlhg · March 14

I shouldn't really have done it but in the end, I couldn't resist. A couple of days with instant noodles isn't that bad 😊
Anyway, the discount for V1 owners looked so much heavier in print: $160 is a lot

gregsmith · March 14

@Pxlhg said:
I shouldn't really have done it but in the end, I couldn't resist. A couple of days with instant noodles isn't that bad 😊
Anyway, the discount for V1 owners looked so much heavier in print: $160 is a lot

That’s a bargain 👍 Enjoy!

Schmotown · March 14

@gregsmith said:

@Pxlhg said:
I shouldn't really have done it but in the end, I couldn't resist. A couple of days with instant noodles isn't that bad 😊

That’s a bargain 👍 Enjoy!

I couldn’t resist, either. That iPhone shaker thingy is pretty cool.

Pxlhg · March 14

@Schmotown said:

@gregsmith said:

@Pxlhg said:
I shouldn't really have done it but in the end, I couldn't resist. A couple of days with instant noodles isn't that bad 😊

That’s a bargain 👍 Enjoy!

I couldn’t resist, either. That iPhone shaker thingy is pretty cool.

The superlong cymbals are also cool but the fact you can add several drums to the same midi note and add delay to the steps are really one of the coolest additions imo, e.g for very nice fills and rolls.

Parthand · March 16

Sorry, just scanned through this thread:

Is one shot iOS the same as the desktop version, as in the same quality samples and functionality? So the same I assume applies for one shot 2. I’m not sure if anyone mentioned a release

Pxlhg · March 16

@Parthand said:
Sorry, just scanned through this thread:

Is one shot iOS the same as the desktop version, as in the same quality samples and functionality? So the same I assume applies for one shot 2. I’m not sure if anyone mentioned a release

OneShot <-- (how it's written) is exactly the same on both platforms OneShot2 will come to iOS later this year.

Gavinski · March 16

@Parthand said:
Sorry, just scanned through this thread:

Is one shot iOS the same as the desktop version, as in the same quality samples and functionality? So the same I assume applies for one shot 2. I’m not sure if anyone mentioned a release

Think they said v2 will come to iPad. If so you should definitely wait to buy, as upgrade options often don’t end up giving much or any discount on iOS, depending on the price you bought at. Functionality is usually or always identical between Klevgrand desktop and iOS plugins btw, from memory.

oldsynthguy · March 16

Since they've ignored my emails and support requests, and promoted the sale of a product that was known to be discontinued literally weeks later, it's fair to say I won't be buying any of their products ever again.

Fool me once...

Pxlhg · March 16

@Gavinski said:

@Parthand said:
Sorry, just scanned through this thread:

Is one shot iOS the same as the desktop version, as in the same quality samples and functionality? So the same I assume applies for one shot 2. I’m not sure if anyone mentioned a release

Think they said v2 will come to iPad. If so you should definitely wait to buy, as upgrade options often don’t end up giving much or any discount on iOS, depending on the price you bought at. Functionality is usually or always identical between Klevgrand desktop and iOS plugins btw, from memory.

In a comment on YT a Klevgrander said it will be discounted when released on iOS

Gavinski · March 16

@Pxlhg said:

@Gavinski said:

@Parthand said:
Sorry, just scanned through this thread:

Is one shot iOS the same as the desktop version, as in the same quality samples and functionality? So the same I assume applies for one shot 2. I’m not sure if anyone mentioned a release

Think they said v2 will come to iPad. If so you should definitely wait to buy, as upgrade options often don’t end up giving much or any discount on iOS, depending on the price you bought at. Functionality is usually or always identical between Klevgrand desktop and iOS plugins btw, from memory.

In a comment on YT a Klevgrander said it will be discounted when released on iOS

Not just a bundle deal? Let's see how they handle it, hopefully well, too many devs mess this up and don't understand how it all works, unfortunately

Parthand · March 16

@oldsynthguy said:
Since they've ignored my emails and support requests, and promoted the sale of a product that was known to be discontinued literally weeks later, it's fair to say I won't be buying any of their products ever again.

Fool me once...

Which product was discontinued ?

oldsynthguy · March 16

@Parthand said:

@oldsynthguy said:
Since they've ignored my emails and support requests, and promoted the sale of a product that was known to be discontinued literally weeks later, it's fair to say I won't be buying any of their products ever again.

Fool me once...

Which product was discontinued ?

OneShot, literally weeks after I bought it after their promo sale.

It's fine. Done. Lesson learned.

tubespace · March 16

@oldsynthguy said:

@Parthand said:

@oldsynthguy said:
Since they've ignored my emails and support requests, and promoted the sale of a product that was known to be discontinued literally weeks later, it's fair to say I won't be buying any of their products ever again.

Fool me once...

Which product was discontinued ?

OneShot, literally weeks after I bought it after their promo sale.

It's fine. Done. Lesson learned.

OneShot is now discontinued? wow. Did they remove it from the app store already?

oldsynthguy · March 16

@tubespace said:

@oldsynthguy said:

@Parthand said:

@oldsynthguy said:
Since they've ignored my emails and support requests, and promoted the sale of a product that was known to be discontinued literally weeks later, it's fair to say I won't be buying any of their products ever again.

Fool me once...

Which product was discontinued ?

OneShot, literally weeks after I bought it after their promo sale.

It's fine. Done. Lesson learned.

OneShot is now discontinued? wow. Did they remove it from the app store already?

Not that one, the desktop version. It's been completely replaced by a new product, though I'm guessing the iOS app will go the same way.

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OneShot! By Klevgrand (Released on iOS)

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