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Yonac Kauldron

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  • Digging this! Getting some nice sounds and spawns pretty rad too

  • Awesome sounding synth, great feature set, Yonac stay true to form !
    An absolute steal at the intro price.

  • @reV01D said:

    @Kühl said:

    @DCJ said:
    Nope. Shows unavailable just like Odessa. The app store is absolute trash.

    The AppStore is totally rubbish. I want my wish-list back!!!

    Instead of using the now deceased wishlist you can accomplish the same thing using the notes app. Just make a note called wishlist and add all the apps you want. Check out the screenshots Below.

    THANX GENIUS

  • Genius!!! I’m doing it this way now :)

  • @Paul16 said:
    Awesome sounding synth, great feature set, Yonac stay true to form !
    An absolute steal at the intro price.

    Honestly, is anyone still on the fence about this one? Spawn2 is powerful and worth the price of admission alone! Au3 Audiobus3 Link? Wake up people! Buy this thing!

  • Nearly didn’t buy this as wasn’t impressed by the demos so far but it is definitely worth it. Also as someone else mentioned it sounds great layered with Zeeon.

  • Can anyone verify if all the parameters are exposed in Kauldron to be automated as AUv3 in BM3?

  • edited November 2017

    @skiphunt said:
    Can anyone verify if all the parameters are exposed in Kauldron to be automated as AUv3 in BM3?

    Yes, well I haven’t counted them, but lots there:

  • @Fruitbat1919 said:

    @skiphunt said:
    Can anyone verify if all the parameters are exposed in Kauldron to be automated as AUv3 in BM3?

    Yes, well I haven’t counted them, but lots there:

    thanks!

  • edited November 2017

    Alright @Fruitbat1919 - I broke down today. Someone's comment about "$4 is no big deal to help keep Yonac's lights on" was what got to me. So here are my thoughts:

    I definitely like it more than Kaspar or Magellan. The low end is meatier. I recreated a couple standard patches I use for every synth and compared them with Zeeon and mood which are in the top 5 synths for me. It’s actually much closer to Z & m than the other Yonac synths by a country mile.

    That being said it’s still missing... something. I can’t put my finger on it, but it’s bugging me. There’s some unnamable quality that stops it from being in the BIG THREE (Zeeon, mood and Model 15). It far more listenable than either Kaspar or Magellan and I appreciate the lack of effects - that was a big issue I had with the others. Kauldron is also much beefier than the other 2 also, so I dig that.

    The feature set is outstanding, as always. I agree that for that alone it's worth my $4. The real pity, though, is that if I want a miniMoog clone, I'm reaching for mood every time. If I want something more modern, Zeeon. If I want it to scream or make someone wet themselves, Model 15. Kauldron will forever fall among the 2nd tier synths in my roster.

    I give it 4.5 out of 5 stars. Kaspar and Magellan are 4 stars, mostly due to feature set. I truly love you, Team Yonac, and will always talk up your stuff. Pity it couldn't fall into top tier, however.

    Exit, stage right...

  • @dvlmusic said:
    Alright @Fruitbat1919 - I broke down today. Someone's comment about "$4 is no big deal to help keep Yonac's lights on" was what got to me. So here are my thoughts:

    I definitely like it more than Kaspar or Magellan. The low end is meatier. I recreated a couple standard patches I use for every synth and compared them with Zeeon and mood which are in the top 5 synths for me. It’s actually much closer to Z & m than the other Yonac synths by a country mile.

    That being said it’s still missing... something. I can’t put my finger on it, but it’s bugging me. There’s some unnamable quality that stops it from being in the BIG THREE (Zeeon, mood and Model 15). It far more listenable than either Kaspar or Magellan and I appreciate the lack of effects - that was a big issue I had with the others. Kauldron is also much beefier than the other 2 also, so I dig that.

    The feature set is outstanding, as always. I agree that for that alone it's worth my $4. The real pity, though, is that if I want a miniMoog clone, I'm reaching for mood every time. If I want something more modern, Zeeon. If I want it to scream or make someone wet themselves, Model 15. Kauldron will forever fall among the 2nd tier synths in my roster.

    I give it 4.5 out of 5 stars. Kaspar and Magellan are 4 stars, mostly due to feature set. I truly love you, Team Yonac, and will always talk up your stuff. Pity it couldn't fall into top tier, however.

    Exit, stage right...

    This is great. I'm curious to know if you have created your standard patches with DRC and TF8 also as those synths sound right up there to me as well.

  • BenBen
    edited November 2017

    Anybody have any insight on the arp programming on this bad boy? The notes of the arp presets are displayed, which is pretty cool but how does one start from scratch?

  • Caved. Bought it, like it a lot... more than I thought I would based on the feedback on this thread. I like the simpler/clean interface. Agree it’s no Mood, Zeeon, Model 15... And although I do like the sound I’m getting, I like it a lot more mixed with other synths and/or filtered in AU multiple instances using Odessa sequencing and an Odessa LFO or three.
    No regret here, killer deal on sale. :)

  • Agree on the mixing of with other synths. I layered mood, Zeeon and Kauldron with similar patches and it sounded monstrous.

  • edited November 2017

    Running on mini2 and cannot get lots of instances running..a few is fine..one trick I have started using is to reduce the number of voices to claim back CPU, set it to one voice for mono patches.

  • @Ben said:
    Anybody have any insight on the arp programming on this bad boy? The notes of the arp presets are displayed, which is pretty cool but how does one start from scratch?

    “Prog” and “Prog Fixed” are the two Arp modes that adhere to the note grid. As far as starting from scratch just tap the INIT button in the preset browser menu.

  • @brice. Thanks for the response. Actually I got was I was looking for.

    The 2 drop down boxes in arp mode only stay visible if you keep your finger on them and slide over and down to your choice.
    Select live in the first box, the direction you want the pattern to take in the second, tap KB hold and select all the notes you want to trigger in the arpeggio.
    Then head over to the synth page or XY pads and mutilate the crap out of it.

    I’m sure this is second nature to most of you here but this is some revelatory stuff for me.
    I’m going to try running it alongside Model 15, Lorentz and one of the Martinez drum apps in AUM this afternoon. See what kind of goofiness happens.

  • edited November 2017

    i’m very disappointed by this synth.. it sounds digitally harsh and cold.. filter with high resonance sounds really bad, digital.. all thumbs down.. it cannot be compared for example with great sounding Zeeon in any way.. there is a lot of dramatically better sounding synths in appstore.. wasted money...

  • @dvlmusic said:
    Agree on the mixing of with other synths. I layered mood, Zeeon and Kauldron with similar patches and it sounded monstrous.

    I have been layering it with Mitosynth for very good results.

  • I like it much better than Magellan. One of the main reasons is that the presets aren't swamped with effects.

  • It’s fascinating to me how fluid and varied, sometimes lacking logic, the sonic tastes can be.

    There are users on the board that I’ve previously lumped into a group category consisting of those who I rarely share any sound opinions with, ie. if they like some new app, I likely won’t at all.

    And then there’s a group category of users who pretty much like anything and everything as long as it’s something new to buy. ;)

    There’s a smaller group who seem hyper-critical and never seem to like anything, or spend most of their time focussing on what they dislike about all of these apps they find so disappointing.

    And finally a small group that if they like something and sing it’s praises, it’s nearly certain that I’ll dig it too.

    This Kauldron app’s opinion feedback, as well as my own reaction to it, has defied all of my previously held group system conventions. Those I normally wouldn’t agree with, I am siding with. And users I usually feel the tightest comradery with, I don’t agree with at all with this one.

    Keep coming back to loading this back up to see if I’m merely liking it because it’s shiny and new. I just spent nearly an our here at the coffee shop creating new sounds that were mostly magnificent. Just starting with a few taps of advanced Spawn2, until I hit something kind of interesting. Then start tweaking from there. Then start adding interesting LFO dynamics.

    Funny how our collective tastes can move in unexpected directions isn’t it?

  • @skiphunt said:
    It’s fascinating to me how fluid and varied, sometimes lacking logic, the sonic tastes can be.

    There are users on the board that I’ve previously lumped into a group category consisting of those who I rarely share any sound opinions with, ie. if they like some new app, I likely won’t at all.

    And then there’s a group category of users who pretty much like anything and everything as long as it’s something new to buy. ;)

    There’s a smaller group who seem hyper-critical and never seem to like anything, or spend most of their time focussing on what they dislike about all of these apps they find so disappointing.

    And finally a small group that if they like something and sing it’s praises, it’s nearly certain that I’ll dig it too.

    This Kauldron app’s opinion feedback, as well as my own reaction to it, has defied all of my previously held group system conventions. Those I normally wouldn’t agree with, I am siding with. And users I usually feel the tightest comradery with, I don’t agree with at all with this one.

    Keep coming back to loading this back up to see if I’m merely liking it because it’s shiny and new. I just spent nearly an our here at the coffee shop creating new sounds that were mostly magnificent. Just starting with a few taps of advanced Spawn2, until I hit something kind of interesting. Then start tweaking from there. Then start adding interesting LFO dynamics.

    Funny how our collective tastes can move in unexpected directions isn’t it?

    That’s great. I actually love hearing that.

  • There seems to be a bug with the oscillators, unless it is supposed to sound broken by design. Create an init patch and play upwards from C3.

  • @skiphunt I agree - I expected that I would dislike this app more than I do simply based on my experience with Kaspar, Magellan and miniSynthII. I was hoping ring - this is far more usable.

    And I hope that I am in the smallest, most select, most "cool guy" of your groups ;)

  • wimwim
    edited November 2017

    There are really only two groups of people in this world. Those that put people into groups and those who don’t. ;)

    But as far as defying expectations, the odd thing for me was my first 10-minute impression quickly trying it out at work was “meh. Not gonna end up using that much, but at least it wuz cheap.” Then at home several hours later it was “Holy crap, I’m gonna use this all the time!”

    I’ve long since stopped pinning any hopes or reacting either way when I buy apps. If I’m not willing to part with the price with no expectations of joy or usefulness, I don’t buy. If I do buy I don’t ever look back. I can’t count the times I’ve circled back to a sidelined app as the result of a forum post, video, update, or just plain boredom, to find that something that didn’t click before is fabulous.

    It’s all upside that way... as long as I never see a total of what I’ve spent on apps.

  • edited November 2017

    @skiphunt said:

    There are users on the board that I’ve previously lumped into a group category consisting of those who I rarely share any sound opinions with, ie. if they like some new app, I likely won’t at all.

    And then there’s a group category of users who pretty much like anything and everything as long as it’s something new to buy. ;)

    There’s a smaller group who seem hyper-critical and never seem to like anything, or spend most of their time focussing on what they dislike about all of these apps they find so disappointing.

    And finally a small group that if they like something and sing it’s praises, it’s nearly certain that I’ll dig it too.

    This Kauldron app’s opinion feedback, as well as my own reaction to it, has defied all of my previously held group system conventions. Those I normally wouldn’t agree with, I am siding with. And users I usually feel the tightest comradery with, I don’t agree with at all with this one.

    Keep coming back to loading this back up to see if I’m merely liking it because it’s shiny and new. I just spent nearly an our here at the coffee shop creating new sounds that were mostly magnificent. Just starting with a few taps of advanced Spawn2, until I hit something kind of interesting. Then start tweaking from there. Then start adding interesting LFO dynamics.

    Don’t agree with that opening statement at all. I don’t think you can put members of this forum into particular boxes - we all like and dislike different things for different reasons, at different times for different uses via different budgets.

    Needs, budgets, usage, tastes change over time - you can’t nail people down and shove pre-defined labels on them, all of those things could be different a week later. Which you seem to conclude at the end.

  • edited November 2017

    @MonzoPro said:

    @skiphunt said:

    There are users on the board that I’ve previously lumped into a group category consisting of those who I rarely share any sound opinions with, ie. if they like some new app, I likely won’t at all.

    And then there’s a group category of users who pretty much like anything and everything as long as it’s something new to buy. ;)

    There’s a smaller group who seem hyper-critical and never seem to like anything, or spend most of their time focussing on what they dislike about all of these apps they find so disappointing.

    And finally a small group that if they like something and sing it’s praises, it’s nearly certain that I’ll dig it too.

    This Kauldron app’s opinion feedback, as well as my own reaction to it, has defied all of my previously held group system conventions. Those I normally wouldn’t agree with, I am siding with. And users I usually feel the tightest comradery with, I don’t agree with at all with this one.

    Keep coming back to loading this back up to see if I’m merely liking it because it’s shiny and new. I just spent nearly an our here at the coffee shop creating new sounds that were mostly magnificent. Just starting with a few taps of advanced Spawn2, until I hit something kind of interesting. Then start tweaking from there. Then start adding interesting LFO dynamics.

    Don’t agree with that opening statement at all. I don’t think you can put members of this forum into particular boxes - we all like and dislike different things for different reasons, at different times for different uses via different budgets.

    Needs, budgets, usage, tastes change over time - you can’t nail people down and shove pre-defined labels on them, all of those things could be different a week later. Which you seem to conclude at the end.

    I’m speaking to patterns I’ve noticed over the nearly 3 years I’ve been here. Some users are very predictable in their opinions.

    My post wasn’t to disparage anyone at all good sir. Nothing was targeted at anyone in paticular, “passive” or otherwise. Observed patterns only. I’ve got my own notable and observable patterns as well.

    My post was noting/observing that often the whole patterned paradigm gets thrown completely out of whack every now and then with the advent of some apps it seems.

    I’ll use Brice as an example here. Most of the time I completely agree with Brice’s opinion. I have a great deal of respect for his skill as a sound and preset designer.

    But, in private conversations, I learned we don’t share the same opinion of the new Scythe app. I love it mostly. He’s not quite as thrilled with it as me, for admittedly valid reasons, but what’s a dealbreaker for him, isn’t so relevant for my use.

    Same with the Kauldron app. I almost didn’t buy it based solely on the venerable Brice’s thoughtful, honest and valid assessment. Yet, I did buy it and am absolutely loving it.

    Like my original post stated up front, that is indeed my actual opening statement that you for some reason have chosen not to include in your reply:

    @skiphunt said:
    It’s fascinating to me how fluid and varied, sometimes lacking logic, the sonic tastes can be.”

    Just an observation and statement of that I’m fascinated how patterns can be so radically disrupted every now and then, like a groovy Odessa generative sequence colliding with a mutant Odessa LFO, delightfully disrupting what you thought you knew. :)

  • @skiphunt said:

    @MonzoPro said:

    @skiphunt said:

    There are users on the board that I’ve previously lumped into a group category consisting of those who I rarely share any sound opinions with, ie. if they like some new app, I likely won’t at all.

    And then there’s a group category of users who pretty much like anything and everything as long as it’s something new to buy. ;)

    There’s a smaller group who seem hyper-critical and never seem to like anything, or spend most of their time focussing on what they dislike about all of these apps they find so disappointing.

    And finally a small group that if they like something and sing it’s praises, it’s nearly certain that I’ll dig it too.

    This Kauldron app’s opinion feedback, as well as my own reaction to it, has defied all of my previously held group system conventions. Those I normally wouldn’t agree with, I am siding with. And users I usually feel the tightest comradery with, I don’t agree with at all with this one.

    Keep coming back to loading this back up to see if I’m merely liking it because it’s shiny and new. I just spent nearly an our here at the coffee shop creating new sounds that were mostly magnificent. Just starting with a few taps of advanced Spawn2, until I hit something kind of interesting. Then start tweaking from there. Then start adding interesting LFO dynamics.

    Don’t agree with that opening statement at all. I don’t think you can put members of this forum into particular boxes - we all like and dislike different things for different reasons, at different times for different uses via different budgets.

    Needs, budgets, usage, tastes change over time - you can’t nail people down and shove pre-defined labels on them, all of those things could be different a week later. Which you seem to conclude at the end.

    I’m speaking to patterns I’ve noticed over the nearly 3 years I’ve been here. Some users are very predictable in their opinions.

    My post wasn’t to disparage anyone at all good sir. Nothing was targeted at anyone in paticular, “passive” or otherwise. Observed patterns only. I’ve got my own notable and observable patterns as well.

    My post was noting/observing that often the whole patterned paradigm gets thrown completely out of whack every now and then with the advent of some apps it seems.

    I’ll use Brice as an example here. Most of the time I completely agree with Brice’s opinion. I have a great deal of respect for his skill as a sound and preset designer.

    But, in private conversations, I learned we don’t share the same opinion of the new Scythe app. I love it mostly. He’s not quite as thrilled with it as me, for admittedly valid reasons, but what’s a dealbreaker for him, isn’t so relevant for my use.

    Same with the Kauldron app. I almost didn’t buy it based solely on the venerable Brice’s thoughtful, honest and valid assessment. Yet, I did buy it and am absolutely loving it.

    Like my original post stated up front, that is indeed my actual opening statement that you for some reason have chosen not to include in your reply:

    @skiphunt said:
    It’s fascinating to me how fluid and varied, sometimes lacking logic, the sonic tastes can be.”

    Just an observation and statement of that I’m fascinated how patterns can be so radically disrupted every now and then, like a groovy Odessa generative sequence colliding with a mutant Odessa LFO, delightfully disrupting what you thought you knew. :)

    Perhaps because those patterns don’t actually exist?

    I don’t see any ‘groups’ on here, just people expressing themselves in different ways at different times.

  • edited November 2017

    @MonzoPro said:

    @skiphunt said:

    @MonzoPro said:

    @skiphunt said:

    There are users on the board that I’ve previously lumped into a group category consisting of those who I rarely share any sound opinions with, ie. if they like some new app, I likely won’t at all.

    And then there’s a group category of users who pretty much like anything and everything as long as it’s something new to buy. ;)

    There’s a smaller group who seem hyper-critical and never seem to like anything, or spend most of their time focussing on what they dislike about all of these apps they find so disappointing.

    And finally a small group that if they like something and sing it’s praises, it’s nearly certain that I’ll dig it too.

    This Kauldron app’s opinion feedback, as well as my own reaction to it, has defied all of my previously held group system conventions. Those I normally wouldn’t agree with, I am siding with. And users I usually feel the tightest comradery with, I don’t agree with at all with this one.

    Keep coming back to loading this back up to see if I’m merely liking it because it’s shiny and new. I just spent nearly an our here at the coffee shop creating new sounds that were mostly magnificent. Just starting with a few taps of advanced Spawn2, until I hit something kind of interesting. Then start tweaking from there. Then start adding interesting LFO dynamics.

    Don’t agree with that opening statement at all. I don’t think you can put members of this forum into particular boxes - we all like and dislike different things for different reasons, at different times for different uses via different budgets.

    Needs, budgets, usage, tastes change over time - you can’t nail people down and shove pre-defined labels on them, all of those things could be different a week later. Which you seem to conclude at the end.

    I’m speaking to patterns I’ve noticed over the nearly 3 years I’ve been here. Some users are very predictable in their opinions.

    My post wasn’t to disparage anyone at all good sir. Nothing was targeted at anyone in paticular, “passive” or otherwise. Observed patterns only. I’ve got my own notable and observable patterns as well.

    My post was noting/observing that often the whole patterned paradigm gets thrown completely out of whack every now and then with the advent of some apps it seems.

    I’ll use Brice as an example here. Most of the time I completely agree with Brice’s opinion. I have a great deal of respect for his skill as a sound and preset designer.

    But, in private conversations, I learned we don’t share the same opinion of the new Scythe app. I love it mostly. He’s not quite as thrilled with it as me, for admittedly valid reasons, but what’s a dealbreaker for him, isn’t so relevant for my use.

    Same with the Kauldron app. I almost didn’t buy it based solely on the venerable Brice’s thoughtful, honest and valid assessment. Yet, I did buy it and am absolutely loving it.

    Like my original post stated up front, that is indeed my actual opening statement that you for some reason have chosen not to include in your reply:

    @skiphunt said:
    It’s fascinating to me how fluid and varied, sometimes lacking logic, the sonic tastes can be.”

    Just an observation and statement of that I’m fascinated how patterns can be so radically disrupted every now and then, like a groovy Odessa generative sequence colliding with a mutant Odessa LFO, delightfully disrupting what you thought you knew. :)

    Perhaps because those patterns don’t actually exist?

    I don’t see any ‘groups’ on here, just people expressing themselves in different ways at different times.

    Nope. You’re wrong. There are easily observable and mostly predictable patterns by many regulars here.

    There’s more than one user here who predictably loves pretty much every app. Nothing wrong with that. Not such a good gauge for whether their opinion will be succinct with my own. More than one user with predictable behavior, can be categorized as a group.

    Likewise, some users predictabley nitpick and criticize seemingly every app that they buy. There’s more than one user here who predictably follows this pattern. That’s another group that I can’t really get a good read on whether I’ll dig a new app or not.

    Then there are others I tend to agree with. Yet another group with common characteristics.

    Kind of like film reviewers. Some hate everything and their criticisms often follow the same pattern. Some film reviewers seem to love just about anything that gets released. That’s another group that I can’t get an accurate assessment from.

    Then there are a handful who tend to love more of the David Lynch, Kubrick, Fincher, Ridley Scott, etc. sorts of films. That’s a group who’s taste patterns tend to coincide with my own. That’s another group. Not the “cool” group. Just the group I most often ageee with.

    Maybe you’re not keen on my inclination to look for patterns, and elements that disrupt predictable patterns? If so, that’s just part of my nature. I do that with my photography, and other visual art. That’s also a characteristic that drives my intrigue and fascination with various sequencers, in particular those capable of generatively creating disruption in predictable repeating patterns.

    But, that’s not really the point that it seems you’re kind of missing I think.

    Doesn’t matter. I don’t care to argue with you about anything. Enjoy your day, and enjoyed this little discourse, but I think I’ll go ride my bicycle now. Cheers :)

  • I personally think we sometimes find the boxes we are already looking for. I personally enjoy knowing what someone sees within an app or even how they use it, but it does not really do much more than sometimes widen my field of view.

    There really is not much beyond “will it work for myself” - that can be biased by time I.e. - “will it work for myself at this time”. So add to this - specific purpose, specific fun and a myriad more complications.

    So I tend to agree with @MonzoPro here, while people may spot what they see as ‘patterns’, that fluidity of choice is as fickle as we humans. So when we ask others for their opinion, it can be useful if we are asking specific questions i.e. - “does such and such do such and such?” Beyond that, personal like and dislikes are pretty much irrelevant beyond reinforcing what we want to believe at that time. That is until we change our minds lol

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