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  • I've used it a little. It does what it says on the tin. I like the fact the patches are stored with the sessions so you don't have to overwrite preferences unless you want to.

    I think the one thing we're hurting for is per-session save/load. The cloud thingy is okay, but it only backs up the whole kit'n'kaboodle, which is better than nowt but isn't very flexible

  • Agreed, that would definitely be nice.

  • @ghostly606 just got my USB->Power converter thingy you recommended.

    It powers the Circuit just fine from my battery pack & the wall USB adapter Yay! Alas the laptop(s), iPad & computer(s) don't have enough welly, so I guess I need the brick when I'm noodling at home. :smile:

  • @JiggyWig Nice one! :) Never tried to try it with a laptop, had assumed it wouldn't work with the iPad though. Would probably work with an in car USB thing I'd imagine.

  • @mireko_2 said:
    Anyone here used the isotonik editor yet? Let's you design patches from scratch

    I just started playing with it this morning. So sweet!

    One problem though is I can save an entire bank just fine (the json and syx file show up) but 'Save Single Patch to Disk' does not work. Nothing shows up on disk :neutral:

  • Works for me just fine (Windows 10), but crashes until I switch the Circuit off. Have fed this back to Isotonik.

    It is a great tool though. I am finishing off my own editor for iOS (using TB MIDI Stuff) and although you'll be able to save snap-shots of patches it isn't the same as having a .syx file on your hard drive. Obviously you need the Isotonik editor to save patches to the Circuit itself too.

  • Think I've pretty much got the Circuit figured out along all important axes for Ableton integration, now to try melding it with ModStep...

  • edited March 2016

    Although fairly uninspiring in a way (the track is so bland!), the new "Finish Something" Novation videos have inspired me to integrate my Circuit with my other gear (in my case, the OP1). I really need to work out how to integrate it with ModStep too, maybe via AUM.

  • For anyone that may be interested I've recorded a small series of videos on integrating the Circuit with Ableton

    I haven't really tried any integrations with iPad yet, though I hope to try some soon. (I have done some tests using the Circuit as a Sound Module for ModStep).

  • Thanks for the videos :) I'm thinking about to purchase an Circuit also as controller for Ableton. Do you think it is possible to use the Circuit's play/rec buttons to control the Ableton sequencer? Does Circuit's scale function affects outgoing MIDI note events?

  • edited March 2016

    Play buttons yes, not sure about record. Yes, the scale function affects the MIDI data being spat out.

    There may well be some firmware update in the future that allows greater integration with Ableton Live, but for now the Circuit just spits out standard MIDI note / CC data associated with the sequencer. You won't be able to use it to launch clips and get visual feedback on what clips are playing for example. For this you'd be better with something like a Launchpad. I have the Mini and it's great.

  • you can't just midi learn clips for triggering with the circuit?

  • You could, but there's be no visual feedback on the Circuit to show you which slots have clips, or which are playing.

  • edited March 2016

    not a problem, how many pages of the whole set up with pads, knobs, and buttons can you get in one song?

  • Not sure if anyone has posted a link to this yet. Generously, includes a TB MIDI Stuff editor for Circuit too.

    @ghostly606, am wondering how your editor might work in relation to this. Thanks for linking you macro editor page. Very cool. I know nothing of how TBMS works, but if the state of knobs can be saved like presets for either of these enterprizes, then I like the idea of that a lot.

    http://www.matrixsynth.com/2016/03/matrixsynth-review-and-overview-of.html

  • @kobamoto said:
    not a problem, how many pages of the whole set up with pads, knobs, and buttons can you get in one song?

    Just one I think.

  • @Salamander69 Cool, I'll take a look. From the screenshots it looks like this editor is spread over a few pages which means it is harder to send a patch to the Circuit (rather than sync, you need to send all the values from the editor to the Circuit).

    Yes, can save snapshots which are similar to presets but saves the whole editor each time so can take up a lot of memory space. Actual presets coming in a future update apparently but the dev has not given any indication of when that may land.

  • @ghostly606 said:
    @Salamander69 Cool, I'll take a look. From the screenshots it looks like this editor is spread over a few pages which means it is harder to send a patch to the Circuit (rather than sync, you need to send all the values from the editor to the Circuit).

    Yes, can save snapshots which are similar to presets but saves the whole editor each time so can take up a lot of memory space. Actual presets coming in a future update apparently but the dev has not given any indication of when that may land.

    Thanks. Helps me understand

  • @ghostly606 said:

    @ghostly606 said:
    I use a USB cable that powers it via the power adaptor, the volca one from myvolts but without an adaptor jack that came with it . Will post a link later.

    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/191796840913

    Hi @ghostly, me again. I noticed someone talking on the Circuit Owners FB group about charging with a caple similar to yours. Great idea BTW. Their link was for an Amazon UK product for which they let you choose the particular cable and polarity needed. Options included 12v, 9v etc.

    Q1. To anyone who might know: Could the voltage still be important enough for the Circuit and, if so, are the different cables for the really different? Can that little cable really step up the voltage, I wonder.
    Q2. Would you mind checking and let us know what the polarity is on the Volca USB power cable that you use (according to your eBay link), assuming that it is the correct polarity for the Circuit coz it works for you? (I guess I could Google it re the Volca).

    Many thanks either way

  • @Salamander69 said:

    @ghostly606 said:

    @ghostly606 said:
    I use a USB cable that powers it via the power adaptor, the volca one from myvolts but without an adaptor jack that came with it . Will post a link later.

    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/191796840913

    Hi @ghostly, me again. I noticed someone talking on the Circuit Owners FB group about charging with a caple similar to yours. Great idea BTW. Their link was for an Amazon UK product for which they let you choose the particular cable and polarity needed. Options included 12v, 9v etc.

    Doh! Sorry, on 2nd thoughts, I can check the polarity on my own Circuit power supply, and I see that these various cables on ebay and Amazon do seem to have components that are designed to step-up the voltage. Still, worth knowing that some of these cables are specifically for 12v (some even have a switch to choose) (although your 9v Volca one seems to do the trick anyway), so long as polarity is also correct on whatever one's we buy. Ampage varies across cables too. Noticing that Volca power supplies seem to supply up to 1.7A, although that may be hard to find in a generic 12v USB adapter cable.
    Phew!

  • I have had enough of this thing- not being able to edit/gate the notes less than a whole step is getting on my nerves- and so are the whiny patches- it sounds like a limp lettuce the morning after a deluge. I want something with a bit more bite to it where I can see what I'm doing. It's heading for the door....... I would say the love affair is over..... but we were never really right for one another from the beginning in truth.

  • @robosardine said:
    I have had enough of this thing- not being able to edit/gate the notes less than a whole step is getting on my nerves- and so are the whiny patches- it sounds like a limp lettuce the morning after a deluge. I want something with a bit more bite to it where I can see what I'm doing. It's heading for the door....... I would say the love affair is over..... but we were never really right for one another from the beginning in truth.

    Tried the patch editor?

  • No I have not. I am pretty well useless at creating patches..... definitely not my strong suit. It's my own fault.. I expected it to be full of typical Novation type sounds- like on the xiosynth or Mininova or K-Station or well.... any of them really. I even watched the Videos- but stupidly thought to myself...... 'these guys must be using the plinky sounds in order that they don't spoil it for the rest of us so we can get to unleash the good stuff when we get our hands on it'
    It's just one of these things. There are plenty of other groovebox type options that will do the job for me- and get me far closer to the sounds I am looking for.......... Come to think of it- I did almost exactly the same thing with those Teenage engineering Pocket Operators recently...... they have already gone.

  • @Salamander69 said:

    @ghostly606 said:

    @ghostly606 said:
    I use a USB cable that powers it via the power adaptor, the volca one from myvolts but without an adaptor jack that came with it . Will post a link later.

    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/191796840913

    Hi @ghostly, me again. I noticed someone talking on the Circuit Owners FB group about charging with a caple similar to yours. Great idea BTW. Their link was for an Amazon UK product for which they let you choose the particular cable and polarity needed. Options included 12v, 9v etc.

    Q1. To anyone who might know: Could the voltage still be important enough for the Circuit and, if so, are the different cables for the really different? Can that little cable really step up the voltage, I wonder.
    Q2. Would you mind checking and let us know what the polarity is on the Volca USB power cable that you use (according to your eBay link), assuming that it is the correct polarity for the Circuit coz it works for you? (I guess I could Google it re the Volca).

    Many thanks either way

    Hi, It was me posted about the cable on the facebook group. :smile:

    I can tell you this much, the adapter they sent me only outputs 6.5v (verified with a multimeter), but it drives the circuit fine from a battery pack or wall adapter, but not from my computer/hub usb sockets, so I'm guessing it needs more than 500mA current wise even if it's ok with a lower voltage. ( The Circuit is labeled 12V 1Amp )

  • edited March 2016

    @robosardine said:
    No I have not. I am pretty well useless at creating patches..... definitely not my strong suit. It's my own fault.. I expected it to be full of typical Novation type sounds- like on the xiosynth or Mininova or K-Station or well.... any of them really. I even watched the Videos- but stupidly thought to myself...... 'these guys must be using the plinky sounds in order that they don't spoil it for the rest of us so we can get to unleash the good stuff when we get our hands on it'
    It's just one of these things. There are plenty of other groovebox type options that will do the job for me- and get me far closer to the sounds I am looking for.......... Come to think of it- I did almost exactly the same thing with those Teenage engineering Pocket Operators recently...... they have already gone.

    yah I never really developed the itch or skill at making my own patches from scratch but find with the editor i can really nudge and push the existing patches into things I like more. I say just give it a shot. I was quite surprised with how my synth-luddite brain got along with the editor.

  • why don't we feed you some patches @robosardine or is your mind already set? I love my pocket operators btw, sold the PO14 and PO16 but the PO12 (Rhythm) and the PO20 (Arcade) sound terrific.

  • @ghostly606 said:
    I love my pocket operators btw, sold the PO14 and PO16 but the PO12 (Rhythm) and the PO20 (Arcade) sound terrific.

    OMG these are so cute!!!

  • edited March 2016

    @AudioGus Have you never seen these before? The Arcade in particular is a chiptune monster! Chord and pattern chaining, mute effects, filters, stutter effects, 16 voices, step sequencing. Amazing!

  • edited March 2016

    @AudioGus said:

    @robosardine said:
    No I have not. I am pretty well useless at creating patches..... definitely not my strong suit. It's my own fault.. I expected it to be full of typical Novation type sounds- like on the xiosynth or Mininova or K-Station or well.... any of them really. I even watched the Videos- but stupidly thought to myself...... 'these guys must be using the plinky sounds in order that they don't spoil it for the rest of us so we can get to unleash the good stuff when we get our hands on it'
    It's just one of these things. There are plenty of other groovebox type options that will do the job for me- and get me far closer to the sounds I am looking for.......... Come to think of it- I did almost exactly the same thing with those Teenage engineering Pocket Operators recently...... they have already gone.

    yah I never really developed the itch or skill at making my own patches from scratch but find with the editor i can really nudge and push the existing patches into things I like more. I say just give it a shot. I was quite surprised with how my synth-luddite brain got along with the editor.

    I find the somewhat same, I haven't made many patches from scratch, though it is early days yet, and I have an UltraNova so the Circuit engine is quite familiar. Mostly I've tweaked the existing ones, and mostly by simply re-assigning more interesting routings to the macro knobs, or tweaking/adding to the mod matrix.

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