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  • JohnnyGoodyearJohnnyGoodyear

    @lukesleepwalker said:

    @JohnnyGoodyear said:
    Funny how some features one just glosses over but then returns to and finally gets. The ability to cut down the loops is such an EASY way to add variance....yes there could be more bells and whistles therein, but still....a very quick place to make a very quick start...

    Yes, but what would knock it out of the park is to offer an option to either loop the chopped piece or not. That is, maybe I want to keep the original loop length but just play a small piece of the original loop--or maybe I want it to loop as it does (nicely!) in the app currently.

    I can see that. Have a word with the higher ups would you? :)

  • GoozoonGoozoon

    Can SOLO button made when you pres it Solo the track, when unres it is back to normal?
    Now need to switch it on and then need to off.

  • AndyPlanktonAndyPlankton

    @JohnnyGoodyear said:

    @lukesleepwalker said:

    @JohnnyGoodyear said:
    Funny how some features one just glosses over but then returns to and finally gets. The ability to cut down the loops is such an EASY way to add variance....yes there could be more bells and whistles therein, but still....a very quick place to make a very quick start...

    Yes, but what would knock it out of the park is to offer an option to either loop the chopped piece or not. That is, maybe I want to keep the original loop length but just play a small piece of the original loop--or maybe I want it to loop as it does (nicely!) in the app currently.

    I can see that. Have a word with the higher ups would you? :)

    Peeps have been talking about this earlier on in the thread, if you are referring to the slip mode anyways. So when you slip the loop, that the bit you are chopping off the front gets added to the end so your loop still plays in its entirety but with the timing slightly offset, I think we settled on calling it Rolling Slip lol.
    If you had 2 identical loops, then started slipping 1 slightly and returning it to normal, it would be the same as the old manual flanging when using 2 tape reels :)

  • lukesleepwalkerlukesleepwalker

    @AndyPlankton said:
    Peeps have been talking about this earlier on in the thread, if you are referring to the slip mode anyways. So when you slip the loop, that the bit you are chopping off the front gets added to the end so your loop still plays in its entirety but with the timing slightly offset, I think we settled on calling it Rolling Slip lol.
    If you had 2 identical loops, then started slipping 1 slightly and returning it to normal, it would be the same as the old manual flanging when using 2 tape reels :)

    Yeah, the rolling slip is needed. But I'm referring to something else here. If I "select" a fourth of my original loop length, the player immediately starts looping the 1/4 loop. I'm proposing that there be an option to select that 1/4 of my loop but keep the original loop length. Essentially it creates "space" in a loop.

  • AndyPlanktonAndyPlankton
    edited March 2016

    @lukesleepwalker said:

    @AndyPlankton said:
    Peeps have been talking about this earlier on in the thread, if you are referring to the slip mode anyways. So when you slip the loop, that the bit you are chopping off the front gets added to the end so your loop still plays in its entirety but with the timing slightly offset, I think we settled on calling it Rolling Slip lol.
    If you had 2 identical loops, then started slipping 1 slightly and returning it to normal, it would be the same as the old manual flanging when using 2 tape reels :)

    Yeah, the rolling slip is needed. But I'm referring to something else here. If I "select" a fourth of my original loop length, the player immediately starts looping the 1/4 loop. I'm proposing that there be an option to select that 1/4 of my loop but keep the original loop length. Essentially it creates "space" in a loop.

    Ahh so you mean just play the 1/4 loop then 3/4 silence ?

  • JohnnyGoodyearJohnnyGoodyear

    @lukesleepwalker said:

    @AndyPlankton said:
    Peeps have been talking about this earlier on in the thread, if you are referring to the slip mode anyways. So when you slip the loop, that the bit you are chopping off the front gets added to the end so your loop still plays in its entirety but with the timing slightly offset, I think we settled on calling it Rolling Slip lol.
    If you had 2 identical loops, then started slipping 1 slightly and returning it to normal, it would be the same as the old manual flanging when using 2 tape reels :)

    Yeah, the rolling slip is needed. But I'm referring to something else here. If I "select" a fourth of my original loop length, the player immediately starts looping the 1/4 loop. I'm proposing that there be an option to select that 1/4 of my loop but keep the original loop length. Essentially it creates "space" in a loop.

    Yup.

  • kobamotokobamoto

    clip volume envelope...

  • AndyPlanktonAndyPlankton
    edited March 2016

    @kobamoto said:
    clip volume envelope...

    That's what I was thinking, or a gate for simple on/off (like I would use in launchpad). And now I understand the envelopes comment from the other day ;)
    Currently you need to mute at the right time to do this, so you can do it you just have very busy fingers lol.

  • AndyPlanktonAndyPlankton
    edited March 2016

    @AndyPlankton said:

    @kobamoto said:
    clip volume envelope...

    That's what I was thinking, or a gate for simple on/off (like I would use in Launchpad). And now I understand the envelopes comment from the other day ;)
    Currently you need to mute at the right time to do this, so you can do it you just have very busy fingers lol.

    Just thinking about this a bit more, is there an app that easily allows you to silence just part of a loop ? From my current app set, only one that will do it without recording and muting is Cubasis, but that requires, export/import/edit/export/re-import :/

  • BiancaNeveBiancaNeve

    @AndyPlankton said:

    @AndyPlankton said:

    @kobamoto said:
    clip volume envelope...

    That's what I was thinking, or a gate for simple on/off (like I would use in Launchpad). And now I understand the envelopes comment from the other day ;)
    Currently you need to mute at the right time to do this, so you can do it you just have very busy fingers lol.

    Just thinking about this a bit more, is there an app that easily allows you to silence just part of a loop ? From my current app set, only one that will do it without recording and muting is Cubasis, but that requires, export/import/edit/export/re-import :/

    Egoist will.

    Works best with a short loop with pronounced transients though.

  • [Deleted User][Deleted User]

    @BiancaNeve said:

    @AndyPlankton said:

    @AndyPlankton said:

    @kobamoto said:
    clip volume envelope...

    That's what I was thinking, or a gate for simple on/off (like I would use in Launchpad). And now I understand the envelopes comment from the other day ;)
    Currently you need to mute at the right time to do this, so you can do it you just have very busy fingers lol.

    Just thinking about this a bit more, is there an app that easily allows you to silence just part of a loop ? From my current app set, only one that will do it without recording and muting is Cubasis, but that requires, export/import/edit/export/re-import :/

    Egoist will.

    Works best with a short loop with pronounced transients though.

    I forgot I'd even got Egoist....I must use my apps more D'oh!

  • kobamotokobamoto

    maybe not on iOS but novation know all about this already... I expect them to be iOS leaders in this regard.

  • JohnnyGoodyearJohnnyGoodyear

    Unusually I did learn how to use Egoist pretty well and then drifted away from it under the welter of Other Things. However whenever I go back to it I am reminded how much original sound you get, especially rhythmically, from this app, plus -of course- a pattern, block, song arrangement that really works well. Now running it in AUM with Blocs/Launchpad really makes for something....

  • kobamotokobamoto

    I bought egoist and returned it, but thought about getting it again... I have a question what about it makes you not use it all the time?

  • lukesleepwalkerlukesleepwalker

    @AndyPlankton said:

    @lukesleepwalker said:
    Yeah, the rolling slip is needed. But I'm referring to something else here. If I "select" a fourth of my original loop length, the player immediately starts looping the 1/4 loop. I'm proposing that there be an option to select that 1/4 of my loop but keep the original loop length. Essentially it creates "space" in a loop.

    Ahh so you mean just play the 1/4 loop then 3/4 silence ?

    Exactly!

  • JohnnyGoodyearJohnnyGoodyear

    @kobamoto said:
    I bought egoist and returned it, but thought about getting it again... I have a question what about it makes you not use it all the time?

    Me not it. I'm a humming bird who always suspects the next big Georgia O'Keefe's going to have all the special honey...

    In addition, I think of it as very rhythmic (as indicated) and I like that, but a lot of what I make (or gravitate towards) is more atmosphere-based. But to be clear, I think it's one of the best apps I've ever bought it terms of the elegance of its design. NOW, it must be said that -for me- it all became a lot clearer once I decided to ditch the bass and drums/beats...which to others might make no sense.

    Would be very irritated if it was taken away from me at this point.

  • kobamotokobamoto

    just seems like it's got a very capable set of tools but it feels like I'm missing something, on the surface I would think that allot of people would be using it and talking about it and I know that allot of people bought it but it's never the first to come up during slicing discussions or ever a heavy focus. I wonder if the workflow has a wrench in it or something... also I get the feeling that if it had only slicers in it that it would be more popular?

  • JohnnyGoodyearJohnnyGoodyear

    @kobamoto said:
    just seems like it's got a very capable set of tools but it feels like I'm missing something, on the surface I would think that allot of people would be using it and talking about it and I know that allot of people bought it but it's never the first to come up during slicing discussions or ever a heavy focus. I wonder if the workflow has a wrench in it or something... also I get the feeling that if it had only slicers in it that it would be more popular?

    Perhaps. My guess is that for folks who are looking for a tool or specific set of tools, it may seem as though it does too much and to others who want a close-to-DAW it might seem as though it doesn't do enough. Like many apps the more I've put into this, the more I've got out of it...I just think Egoist offers a far, far higher happy-accidents quotient than almost anything else out there...

  • JohnnyGoodyearJohnnyGoodyear

    My friend has a wife who seems like this. I don't get the point of her at all, but whenever he leaves the bedroom he's smiling. I never go into the bedroom.

  • kobamotokobamoto

    I know I definitely didn't enough time with it, I think I will try again but not at $19

  • AmpifyxNovationAmpifyxNovation

    @j_liljedahl said:

    @Audiojunkie said:

    @j_liljedahl said:

    @Audiojunkie said:

    This would actually be VERY useful!! +1 for IAA (instrument mode)!!!!! With transport controls!!!

    Actually all 4 kinds of IAA (generator, instrument, effect, music effect) can use IAA host sync and transport controls. IAA instruments can also take direct IAA-MIDI input, that's their only difference compared to an IAA generator.

    So is it just shoddy programming that prevents IAA sequencing from working in various apps?

    Sequencing through IAA-midi can only happen if the app is an "instrument" or "music effect", and the developer actually implemented it in the app. I have a couple of apps myself that are instruments (Sector, BitWiz) but does not currently actually use it, instead only uses virtual MIDI, which is bad (shame on me, I knew not what I was doing). Will fix that in updates later this year :)

    Does the Audiobus SDK include everything needed to allow a person to sequence tracks in a host? Why do some apps work, and some apps don't?

    No, Audiobus SDK contains nothing at all related to IAA midi. It uses only a subset of the IAA technology, the actual transferring of audio between node and host. It does not use its host sync, transport state, remote transport control, switch-to-peer, IAA-MIDI, etc.

    Why is there a transport in one app, and nothing in another? Why does the transport have all controls in one app and only the home control in another?

    Because the developer didn't make an IAA host transport panel.

    Please help me understand who and what to complain about, so that I can get developers pointed in the right direction. I'm tired of buying apps, only to find out that I can't write intricate parts to my piano roll and have the app play them. I'm trying to solve a problem with limited knowledge. Where are developers going wrong in making this work? Thanks in advance!! :blush:

    Most IAA enabled apps supports IAA only as a side-effect of supporting Audiobus. Supporting the additional IAA technologies means the developer must actively implement them, and understand them. I've updated this document which might help regarding sync and transport: http://lijon.github.io/ios_audio_sync.html

    Sometime in the future I'll make a more generic IAA developer guide that covers all the other IAA technologies.

    We're going to look in this. Seems like something we should support.

  • AudiojunkieAudiojunkie

    @Launchpadforios said:

    @j_liljedahl said:

    @Audiojunkie said:

    @j_liljedahl said:

    @Audiojunkie said:

    This would actually be VERY useful!! +1 for IAA (instrument mode)!!!!! With transport controls!!!

    Actually all 4 kinds of IAA (generator, instrument, effect, music effect) can use IAA host sync and transport controls. IAA instruments can also take direct IAA-MIDI input, that's their only difference compared to an IAA generator.

    So is it just shoddy programming that prevents IAA sequencing from working in various apps?

    Sequencing through IAA-midi can only happen if the app is an "instrument" or "music effect", and the developer actually implemented it in the app. I have a couple of apps myself that are instruments (Sector, BitWiz) but does not currently actually use it, instead only uses virtual MIDI, which is bad (shame on me, I knew not what I was doing). Will fix that in updates later this year :)

    Does the Audiobus SDK include everything needed to allow a person to sequence tracks in a host? Why do some apps work, and some apps don't?

    No, Audiobus SDK contains nothing at all related to IAA midi. It uses only a subset of the IAA technology, the actual transferring of audio between node and host. It does not use its host sync, transport state, remote transport control, switch-to-peer, IAA-MIDI, etc.

    Why is there a transport in one app, and nothing in another? Why does the transport have all controls in one app and only the home control in another?

    Because the developer didn't make an IAA host transport panel.

    Please help me understand who and what to complain about, so that I can get developers pointed in the right direction. I'm tired of buying apps, only to find out that I can't write intricate parts to my piano roll and have the app play them. I'm trying to solve a problem with limited knowledge. Where are developers going wrong in making this work? Thanks in advance!! :blush:

    Most IAA enabled apps supports IAA only as a side-effect of supporting Audiobus. Supporting the additional IAA technologies means the developer must actively implement them, and understand them. I've updated this document which might help regarding sync and transport: http://lijon.github.io/ios_audio_sync.html

    Sometime in the future I'll make a more generic IAA developer guide that covers all the other IAA technologies.

    We're going to look in this. Seems like something we should support.

    Thank you!!! I'm only buying apps that support IAA and/or AU properly these days. :smiley:

  • HanssonHansson

    I Saw the block update, but link wasn't there ? I saw a picture of link the other day

  • AndyPlanktonAndyPlankton

    @Hansson said:
    I Saw the block update, but link wasn't there ? I saw a picture of link the other day

    Yes, update looks like a maintenance update for v1. The picture you saw was a notice from the guys that Link was working, but they expected it to be at least 4 weeks away, 2 weeks of which would be apple approval. I guess they didn't want to have to wait until then to get these bug fixes to us.
    Nice people :)

  • Tones4ChristTones4Christ

    Bought! Amazing!!!!
    Nice mixer screen would be awesome with panning, mute solo buttons and AUM transport.

  • Tones4ChristTones4Christ

    Imported some Session Band guitar tracks, sounded great!
    But I can't locate the imported folder.

  • AmpifyxNovationAmpifyxNovation

    @Nathan said:
    Just spotted a new pack, but rather disappointingly it's Retro Trap. Come on devs, use some imagination. Blocs Wave has the potential for so much more than the EDM bias currently available as packs. Why replicate when you can innovate.

    hey Nathan. we hear you. We have a ton of packs in the works, that will really help to diversify the genre spread inside of the app. I'd love to hear a sweep of what you guys would love to see. Maybe we can accelerate one to make sure we get you guys what you need.

  • djjuniorpopsdjjuniorpops

    @Tones4Christ , i agree a mixer screen would be nice where you could adjust volume and which would have some sort of meters to monitor levels.

  • cronycrony

    Can't wait Loopy masterpiece to end all this joke...

  • JohnnyGoodyearJohnnyGoodyear
    edited March 2016

    @crony said:
    Can't wait Loopy masterpiece to end all this joke...

    Disagree. The Appaholic God loves all his children etc. But especially when they figure out a way to file-manage imported samples I've noticed...

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