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Modstep 1.1

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  • edited December 2016

    @AudioGus
    Air 2. Right now the set up is like butter, which makes me want to turn on airplane mode and leave it on for good - I will update no more forever...ok a little more: BM3, and FLM3 gets its shampoo rinse and blow dry

  • wimwim
    edited December 2016

    @Flexinoodle said:
    What are you using as a drum sampler wim ?
    Ideally i would like to remove the 19" rack from my live set up entirely, but i haven't seen a drum sampler AUv3.
    Hoping for Ruismaker sample hahaha, been using BramBos software all the way back to Hammerhead and Taureg, in fact it is down to him releasing on IOS that i am investigating Ipads for live work.

    For electronic I've been stuck on RuisMaker and RuisMaker FM since they came out. Before that, various specialized emulations such as Boom808, Boom909, and the Elliot Garage apps. Also always enjoy MoDrum.

    For acoustic, DrumPerfect Pro if sequencing from ModStep or Auria Pro. Luis Martinez's apps if I don't feel like sequencing things myself.

    I'm no performer though, just a hack. So take all that with a grain of salt.

    Auria Pro and Cubasis drum samplers aren't bad either. I just never seem to go that route.

  • wimwim
    edited December 2016

    Oh, and patterning baby. B) Best drum sequencer ever. Patterning plus AUM plus BramBos is the bomb.

  • edited December 2016

    Oh hell yes. Another thing i do is sequence in patterning and just trigger segments via midi.
    Since patterning has multi outs into AUM its win win.

  • edited December 2016

    So how many note rows are people seeing in the step sequencer
    In the manual it shows an entire octave, on the air 2 it shows 7 notes (Totally useless), what am i missing here ?
    Surely 7 notes out of an octave, but just an octave selector and no slider is totally useless, how are people even using this thing ?

  • It doesn't help my mental image of Flexinoodle that his default avatar looks like a baby crying.

    Anyway I get a full octave on my Air2. Turn off global scale and read the manual;)

  • edited December 2016

    I have read the manual, it is crap, but yeah i realised it was scaled, ten seconds after pressing post comment.
    But this brings in to focus the poor quality of the UX on this software
    1 There should be some kind of indicator that a scale is active.
    2 When you are on chords the steps should follow the name of the chords (Like it does for drum pads) and allow steps to trigger the chords (Or maybe i missed that in the manual too) because if it doesn't, and you can only play/record chords (That's all i am able to do here, and all it says in the manual too) then why the hell is there a chords button only viewable in the step sequencer, when it cant be step sequenced, but only played/recorded in, which can only be done in the piano roll, where there is......wait for it......wait.....no chord button.
    Horrific UX, these are all the little things that make an app usable instead of a RTFM geek fest.

  • Maybe i am missing something else in the manual (It doesn't mention it) but it seems that a track can only have a single template loaded, so if you have an AU synth followed by a bunch of Effects, you can only load a template for one of them.
    Possible to make a template manually for everything on the track you want to automate, but where do you find the CC list for all the instruments/effects ? (The manual does not mention it for sampler or synthesizer)

    Simple UX here would be
    Long Press any internal or AU synth/effect control - Pop up - Add to track mods

    But even then, the CC/Template side of things really needs a rethink, it all feels a little too busy

    Back to simple UX
    1 Have a new template designer that loads as full screen (With presets for librarian duties) for external hard/softwares
    Within this design have drag n drop of user definable scroll lists/on off switches/sliders
    This would cover pretty much every control you could need for external editing/librarian duties

    2 Take the current system of having the slots for automation, but use my long press - Pop up paradigm as above
    This would work on any internal synths/effects, but also right click any control in the external editor/librarian for automation purposes

    The editor librarian would be an IAP/standalone with its own IAPs for templates (Should generate a bit more funds)

  • Hi Flexinoodle,

    It looks like you have joined the modstep party well after a lot of the initial release discussion developer discussions and updates.

    While I appreciate you are airing your frustrations over a idiosyncratic and ambitious app, a lot of similar discussions have taken place and the board feeling (if I am sensing correctly) is one which knows what kind of thing modstep is trying to be, is aware of how much the dev got involved for quite some time after the 1.0 release and now know what to use / not use for their specific use.

    I only mention this to explain why some of your posts may not get direct answers, also for your time and frustration, if you haven't bought it yet, maybe move on to try another iOS DAW? If not there are a few modstep threads with advice and of coyrse the good oil' fashioned manual.

    I myself use if for specific things,(and yes I match my sample rates) and have used orher desktop DAWs for 25+ years :)

  • There are still some odd bugs but all in all it's a great sequencer with a very fast and smooth workflow

    Though i do feel like it could use an update

  • edited December 2016

    Actually it doesnt have a fast and smooth workflow, like i have said elsewhere, it is obviously the best host/sequencer on IOS, but it is massively flawed, but constantly proclaiming that it is OK as it is, that helps no developer ever, pointing out (No matter how much it annoys some yes men users) is the only way a developer will ever understand poor UX (Most developers have little to no idea of UX design)

    It doesn't need that many updates to have a fast and smooth workflow, right now it is powerful but disjointed.

  • edited December 2016

    @Flexinoodle said:
    Actually it doesnt have a fast and smooth workflow, like i have said elsewhere, it is obviously the best host/sequencer on IOS, but it is massively flawed, but constantly proclaiming that it is OK as it is, that helps no developer ever, pointing out (No matter how much it annoys some yes men users) is the only way a developer will ever understand poor UX (Most developers have little to no idea of UX design)

    It doesn't need that many updates to have a fast and smooth workflow, right now it is powerful but disjointed.

    You appear to be mistaking your opinion for a fact

    I find it faster than even something like Gadget. In fact i'd be hard pressed to find anything on iOS where i can sketch a song as fast as in Modstep

  • @Flexinoodle said:
    Maybe i am missing something else in the manual (It doesn't mention it) but it seems that a track can only have a single template loaded, so if you have an AU synth followed by a bunch of Effects, you can only load a template for one of them.
    Possible to make a template manually for everything on the track you want to automate, but where do you find the CC list for all the instruments/effects ? (The manual does not mention it for sampler or synthesizer)

    Simple UX here would be
    Long Press any internal or AU synth/effect control - Pop up - Add to track mods

    But even then, the CC/Template side of things really needs a rethink, it all feels a little too busy

    Back to simple UX
    1 Have a new template designer that loads as full screen (With presets for librarian duties) for external hard/softwares
    Within this design have drag n drop of user definable scroll lists/on off switches/sliders
    This would cover pretty much every control you could need for external editing/librarian duties

    2 Take the current system of having the slots for automation, but use my long press - Pop up paradigm as above
    This would work on any internal synths/effects, but also right click any control in the external editor/librarian for automation purposes

    The editor librarian would be an IAP/standalone with its own IAPs for templates (Should generate a bit more funds)

    In Flexi's defense, he has high standards. He is right that I have not used a hardware sequencer, and so really should not accept Modsteps limitations as necessary quirks. But his outrage kind of proves the value of Modstep. It MIGHTILY pissed me off in the beginning. But there is something about it that made me want to return. In the end, it unlocked a creative path that no other app or app combination has. BUT...you do wish it wasn't such a production all the time.

  • edited December 2016

    @jn2002dk
    Nope, my opinion is my opinion, bad UX is bad UX, there are some rules you follow, just like a wheel should always be round, you seem to be mixing the two up.
    Now just because you use it in one particular way and it works smooth for you, does not mean that the app is not full of horrific UX (See chords above, achievable here, but have to go there to turn them on, poor UX design, not opinion, just poor design)
    I am fairly sure that if i design a square wheel, there would be a bunch of people who think that it is better than a round wheel, does not mean that it is a well designed wheel, just means for some people it fits their particular use case, and they would very much be the minority.

    My opinion is like i said, i personally think it is the best host/sequencer on IOS, that would be my opinion.

  • edited December 2016

    @Flexinoodle said:
    @jn2002dk
    Nope, my opinion is my opinion, bad UX is bad UX, there are some rules you follow, just like a wheel should always be round, you seem to be mixing the two up.
    Now just because you use it in one particular way and it works smooth for you, does not mean that the app is not full of horrific UX (See chords above, achievable here, but have to go there to turn them on, poor UX design, not opinion, just poor design)
    I am fairly sure that if i design a square wheel, there would be a bunch of people who think that it is better than a round wheel, does not mean that it is a well designed wheel, just means for some people it fits their particular use case, and they would very much be the minority.

    My opinion is like i said, i personally think it is the best host/sequencer on IOS, that would be my opinion.

    I'm not going to argue the finer points of UX design if you don't recognise your opinion on the smoothness of the workflow is entirely subjective

    Have fun

  • I explained the difference between opinion and rule, you ignored it, your call.
    Enjoy

  • @Flexinoodle said:
    I explained the difference between opinion and rule, you ignored it, your call.
    Enjoy

    @Flexinoodle said:
    @jn2002dk
    Nope, my opinion is my opinion, bad UX is bad UX, there are some rules you follow, just like a wheel should always be round, you seem to be mixing the two up.
    Now just because you use it in one particular way and it works smooth for you, does not mean that the app is not full of horrific UX (See chords above, achievable here, but have to go there to turn them on, poor UX design, not opinion, just poor design)
    I am fairly sure that if i design a square wheel, there would be a bunch of people who think that it is better than a round wheel, does not mean that it is a well designed wheel, just means for some people it fits their particular use case, and they would very much be the minority.

    My opinion is like i said, i personally think it is the best host/sequencer on IOS, that would be my opinion.

    Just refund if it vexes you so much. No point raging here. Like @skoptic mentioned you're quite late to the party. Most of us that use modstep have adjusted to its quirks and limitations. It's no portable Ableton Live. But it's the closest that I can get on my iPad. And that's more than enough for me :)

  • @Littlewoodg said:
    @AudioGus
    Air 2. Right now the set up is like butter, which makes me want to turn on airplane mode and leave it on for good - I will update no more forever...ok a little more: BM3, and FLM3 gets its shampoo rinse and blow dry

    Ahh I see, yah my Air1 would never handle all that.

  • Latest iOS , iPad mini 2, modstep Crash in Start. Have Not testet now with my air2

  • As a UX designer (or whatever the name du jour for my profession is this week) there are definitely some annoyances in the design. I do feel that sequencers fall into this weird uncanny valley for UX designers, where everyone has a slightly different workflow, so noone's ever entirely happy...

    And I do feel it's unfinished and they need to fix stuff, and improve some of the UX (which in my professional and quite expensive opinion isn't as bad as you claim. I'd give it a C, or B-). I would be very annoyed if they abandoned it at this point. But I'd still continue to use it. So it does seem hyperbolic when you declare it hopelessly broken. It works well for my purposes, I hope in the future it will work even better. A sequencer is an extremly hard UX problem. It took Ableton many many years to get to the point they're at today.

    My experience with this developer has been pretty positive. They fixed the problems I identified, they've mostly added the things I've asked for. Last I heard from them they were hard at work on improving the (in most need of work I think) piano roll. At this point they've earned a fair degree of trust. When I've contacted them they've been pretty responsive - though admittedly I lack Flexinoodle's abrasive/rude personality.

    Nope, my opinion is my opinion, bad UX is bad UX, there are some rules you follow,

    Well there are, but they're mostly based upon psychological/physiological characteristics of the human body. There aren't that many universal laws that affect workflow exactly. Most of UX is about identifying your users, identifying their needs (which may be radically different to other users) and solving them. A square wheel might well be the right solution.

    There are a number of things in ModStep that I love (the drum/melodic distinction, and the step sequencer/piano roll distinction) and you dislike. And therein lies the challenge of UX.

  • edited December 2016

    Sorry but if you think an event is not an event, then you must not have spent much time with anything else.
    There is literally no reason whatsoever to distinguish an event at for example C3 as one thing in one view, and something else entirely in another view, that is pure nonsense, a C3 note is a C3 note, no matter where it is that is unless it has gone through some process that changes it, which it hasn't, it is just a different visual representation.
    I could not care less if you are a UI designer and you could not care less that i am, that is totally irrelevant, but well done for bringing it up anyway.

    The developers themselves are not just unresponsive to me and my rude abrasiveness, but also to lost of other users, some even posted in this thread, but lets just ignore them ;)
    Oh and lets ignore the fact that i said it is the best Host/Sequencer on IOS, but it is horribly broken and flawed and needs work, and in reality is completely unusable in any professional setting (Cue fanbois, screaming, yelling, claims of whatever)

    It is very obvious that most people around this particular forum are unprofessional OR (Notice the or) they look upon IOS software as pretty much a toy and they will just deal with the fact that it is just not very well designed, yet we have some of the cleverest designs ever created (Some by the developers of Modstep, StudioMux for example)

    It is always funny how people lift software developers above the usual everyday consumer/retailer relationship.

    Consumer "Can i have a steak please mr butcher"
    Butcher "Of course you can, but it may have a few maggots, but don't worry, you can eat around them"
    Consumer "F**k you mate"

    Consumer1 "Can i have a sequencer please mr IOS developer"
    Mr IOS developer "Of course you can, but it will have a bunch of bugs, a bunch of instability"
    Consumer1"Oh no problem, i can work around that"
    Consumer2 "This is nonsense, fix it, add new features and i will buy them"
    Consumer1" Oh why you hating, why you picking on the poor developers"

  • @Flexinoodle said:
    Sorry but if you think an event is not an event, then you must not have spent much time with anything else.
    There is literally no reason whatsoever to distinguish an event at for example C3 as one thing in one view, and something else entirely in another view, that is pure nonsense, a C3 note is a C3 note, no matter where it is that is unless it has gone through some process that changes it, which it hasn't, it is just a different visual representation.
    I could not care less if you are a UI designer and you could not care less that i am, that is totally irrelevant, but well done for bringing it up anyway.

    The developers themselves are not just unresponsive to me and my rude abrasiveness, but also to lost of other users, some even posted in this thread, but lets just ignore them ;)
    Oh and lets ignore the fact that i said it is the best Host/Sequencer on IOS, but it is horribly broken and flawed and needs work, and in reality is completely unusable in any professional setting (Cue fanbois, screaming, yelling, claims of whatever)

    It is very obvious that most people around this particular forum are unprofessional OR (Notice the or) they look upon IOS software as pretty much a toy and they will just deal with the fact that it is just not very well designed, yet we have some of the cleverest designs ever created (Some by the developers of Modstep, StudioMux for example)

    It is always funny how people lift software developers above the usual everyday consumer/retailer relationship.

    Consumer "Can i have a steak please mr butcher"
    Butcher "Of course you can, but it may have a few maggots, but don't worry, you can eat around them"
    Consumer "F**k you mate"

    Consumer1 "Can i have a sequencer please mr IOS developer"
    Mr IOS developer "Of course you can, but it will have a bunch of bugs, a bunch of instability"
    Consumer1"Oh no problem, i can work around that"
    Consumer2 "This is nonsense, fix it, add new features and i will buy them"
    Consumer1" Oh why you hating, why you picking on the poor developers"

    Go away.

  • edited December 2016

    Ok...removed feed..

  • wimwim
    edited December 2016

    [edit] oops. Nothing to see here.

  • God it's hard not to feed the troll.

  • @wim said:
    God it's hard not to feed the troll.

    It is the prime directive.

  • I was waiting to see how long it would take for the "p" word to come up.

  • Yep, and you all didn't just do exactly what i predicted hahahaha, well done, just well done

  • I think this thread is drifting a bit, so I would like to remind you all of this comment over here:
    https://forum.audiob.us/discussion/comment/189389/#Comment_189389
    ;)

  • Here´s my 2 cents.
    Modstep is far from perfect, it does have some glitches and some UI issues, for example the pattern "length" should be more accesible, not a long-press hidden feature, being critical as it is...
    That being said, it´s THE BEST of it´s kind in iOS right now. And let´s not forget these developers are not Steinberg or Ableton. They are not a bunch of millionaires running a "programming farm" in some foreign place.
    iOS platform itself music-wise is not a rock-solid building ground. It seems to me IAA, AB, etc, are all excellent attempts to make things work where they weren´t made to be... And that´s not Modstep´s or anyone´s else sole responsability. I have plenty of issues with Drum Machines going out of sync in AUM aswell. There´s just not a solid ground, a reliable enough protocol.

    So now it´s my turn to complain ;)
    Audio Looper!!!!!. It can´t be that hard!!.
    Let me just jump in and provide a surely stupid approach... Have an "audio" internal module that let´s you pick a wav or record into it. Then, in the background, you just implement you sampler to play that wav. Right now the dodgy workaround is to import a file, load into a slot in the sampler, assign that single note to the clip triggering the sample... It´s always the same, so just automate it and hide the sampler... It wouldn´t take a lot of development since all the ingredients are already there.... Genious or plain stupid?

    Why is Audio looping so necessary?. There´s a lot of us that play/sing outside of the apps (guitar anyone?). You need the audio in modstep in order to work on the song, test arrangementes, etc... basically "this synth and rythm go with this guitar riff". I´ve tried to trigger Loopy from Modstep and sort of managed to do it, but it´s a nightmare. (concatenation of "Mute all" and "play track" in Loopy input messages).

    keep up the god work!!

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