Ruismaker - AU Drum Synthesizer

brambos

@Audiojunkie said:
Hey @brambos , This is Sean Ercanbrack who worked with you with samples and beta testing back in the Tunafish days! I moved to iOS devices and haven't been as involved in the Windows realm. I'm glad to see you coming over to the iOS realm!! I'm looking forward to Ruismaker!!

Hey Sean, I thought I recognized the Audiojunkie handle! It's good to be in the iOS world. Liberated from mouse and big screens that suck the creativity out of your eyeballs and stuff ;-)

brambos

@wellingtonCres said:
sounds terrific! if this exposes its parameters to AUM in the same way that isem and voyager do then that is entirely perfect and will be an instabuy for me

For sure. That's the standard way of handling AU parameters, so that's fully supported. Additionally, you can already automate everything in Cubasis using MIDI CC:

Samu

@brambos said:

@wellingtonCres said:
sounds terrific! if this exposes its parameters to AUM in the same way that isem and voyager do then that is entirely perfect and will be an instabuy for me

For sure. That's the standard way of handling AU parameters, so that's fully supported. Additionally, you can already automate everything in Cubasis using MIDI CC:

This is almost too good to be true, can't wait to get my fingers on this one!

How much 'tweak-ability' will be there be?
The 'engine' sounds like it's very capable but might be limited by a limited parameter-set that is exposed to the user.
As a 'recovering app-a-holic' a hint regarding price-point is indeed interesting.

I presume track-freeze in Cubasis works flawlessly too...

brambos

How much 'tweak-ability' will be there be?
The 'engine' sounds like it's very capable but might be limited by a limited parameter-set that is exposed to the user.
As a 'recovering app-a-holic' a hint regarding price-point is indeed interesting.

I presume track-freeze in Cubasis works flawlessly too...

Tweakability is biased towards making music rather than sound design. The project started out as a hardware drum machine, so its benchmarks were the TR-8, Volca Beats, Rhythm Wolf, JD-Xi and to a lesser extent the Machinedrum - also in terms of hands-on controls.

Track freeze works very well. I have yet to set a price, but expect it to be in the order of a Starbucks latte and a cookie ;-)

JohnnyGoodyear

@brambos said:

How much 'tweak-ability' will be there be?
The 'engine' sounds like it's very capable but might be limited by a limited parameter-set that is exposed to the user.
As a 'recovering app-a-holic' a hint regarding price-point is indeed interesting.

I presume track-freeze in Cubasis works flawlessly too...

Tweakability is biased towards making music rather than sound design. The project started out as a hardware drum machine, so its benchmarks were the TR-8, Volca Beats, Rhythm Wolf, JD-Xi and to a lesser extent the Machinedrum - also in terms of hands-on controls.

Track freeze works very well. I have yet to set a price, but expect it to be in the order of a Starbucks latte and a cookie ;-)

We used to have the Mars Bar Economy, I guess this isn't so very far from that. Truth is a had I latte and a cookie last night at the end of my street (well, alright, an Americano and a posh fig poptart) and as I swiped for me and the Missus I thought hmmm....this would buy a pretty nice damn app...

Samu

@brambos said:

Tweakability is biased towards making music rather than sound design. The project started out as a hardware drum machine, so its benchmarks were the TR-8, Volca Beats, Rhythm Wolf, JD-Xi and to a lesser extent the Machinedrum - also in terms of hands-on controls.

Track freeze works very well. I have yet to set a price, but expect it to be in the order of a Starbucks latte and a cookie ;-)

Good to know!
I love the sounds I hear already so it will be a very welcomed AU side-kick to Cubasis when it hits the AppStore.

Sound wise by ear it feels like Ruismaker can (for me) replace Boom! 808/909, iElectribe, DM2, SeekBeats and Elastic Drums but may offer slightly less tweak ability but that doesn't really bother me too much as long as it delivers in the sound department and knowing it will be AU will make it easier to process the sounds individually when needed.

RUST( i )K

@supadom said:

@RustiK said:

@supadom said:
So far we have: ielectribe, seekbeats, impaktor, elastic drums, stroke machine, Tokyo, dm2, attack, ....nah, I think I'm going to pass.

Ah wait, did you say it is AU...mmmm, tell me more!

I hear you.

Only thing is, I would like to have 1 AU drum app.

I am attempting to minimize the amount of apps used and save CPU.

As you mentioned, they are alot alike(synth drums). That's why IF IF IF it is lower CPU and gives same sounds, it is a net gain for me.

That is for today anyway. I have the ideas I ideally would use and those I actually do.

The distance between these 2 points HAS greatly lesson due to LINK and Audio Units.

Just me tho bro.

One way to minimize CPU/ram use is to dedicate 3 (or more) loops in loopy to different percussive instruments. I.e. kick drum loop, hihat loop and snare loop. Then you can mute and unmute different parts for dramatic effect. I also found dedicating one track in Samplr to 8 or more percussive hits gives great results in arp mode.

This will not replace a fully fledged drum synth but does for a pretty powerful cheat. Run those tracks through Turnado's dictator and you're in groove heaven!
Of course it helps if loopy is already in your chain.

LOOPY is part of it of course.

As most times, I agree and /or appreciate your feedback.

gburks

@supadom said:
Welcome to the forum @brambos!

When I suggested automation I actually meant for the app itself to record its own knob movements rather than responding to data from the host. Would that be easier to implement?

I expect that would require further development of the sequencer to record and playback continuous midi data as opposed to only note messages.

This often overlooked feature makes IMO a huge difference to the expressiveness of a drum box.

Anyhow, good luck with the launch and here's to hoping in automation making it into the next version of the app. Cheers

That demo sounds amazing. Can't wait. I'm unclear on if this has its own sequencer at all or if that is supposed to be done in the AU host?

brambos

That demo sounds amazing. Can't wait. I'm unclear on if this has its own sequencer at all or if that is supposed to be done in the AU host?

Thanks! It doesn't have its own sequencer, so the demo was sequenced in Cubasis.

I have just 'discovered' the Live Loops grid-view in Garageband, which is also a ton of fun with 5 Ruismaker plugins running in parallel.

Kaikoo2

@brambos said:

That demo sounds amazing. Can't wait. I'm unclear on if this has its own sequencer at all or if that is supposed to be done in the AU host?

Thanks! It doesn't have its own sequencer, so the demo was sequenced in Cubasis.

I have just 'discovered' the Live Loops grid-view in Garageband, which is also a ton of fun with 5 Ruismaker plugins running in parallel.

Should have a throughly test on Modstep?

brambos

@Kaikoo2 said:

@brambos said:

That demo sounds amazing. Can't wait. I'm unclear on if this has its own sequencer at all or if that is supposed to be done in the AU host?

Thanks! It doesn't have its own sequencer, so the demo was sequenced in Cubasis.

I have just 'discovered' the Live Loops grid-view in Garageband, which is also a ton of fun with 5 Ruismaker plugins running in parallel.

Should have a throughly test on Modstep?

Does modstep support Audio Unit Instruments?

Kaikoo2

@brambos said:

@Kaikoo2 said:

@brambos said:

That demo sounds amazing. Can't wait. I'm unclear on if this has its own sequencer at all or if that is supposed to be done in the AU host?

Thanks! It doesn't have its own sequencer, so the demo was sequenced in Cubasis.

I have just 'discovered' the Live Loops grid-view in Garageband, which is also a ton of fun with 5 Ruismaker plugins running in parallel.

Should have a throughly test on Modstep?

Does modstep support Audio Unit Instruments?

Oh, come on, developer!

Two of major dominant players for AU format are Modstep and AUM. Now we talk about sequencing, it must be done in Modstep.

brambos

Oh, come on, developer!

Two of major dominant players for AU format are Modstep and AUM. Now we talk about sequencing, it must be done in Modstep.

I'll have a look. I see AU Instrument support was only added 4 weeks ago. That's the reason I missed it last time I checked for available host apps.

Samu

I love using AUs with Cubasis so I'd rather see RuisMaker released as soon as possible without having to wait for it to get a built-in sequencer. I mean we can drive RuisMaker from Patterning once it's loaded into AUM...

brambos

For the Modstep fans... I haven't had time to do extensive testing yet, but it seems to be working:

Kaikoo2

Awesome, developer. You will make money professionally speaking.

That is the best AU drum synth photo I ever seeing first time. Lots of modulation possibilities.

Good night.

sirdavidabraham

I have to agree on the visuals. It looks tasty.

Kaikoo2

Btw, use Modstep drum pad. Anything you need to know about using it. Give me private message, I can help you, because you might just fresh on it.

brambos

Thanks for the kind words. I may need some pointers using Modstep as it seems to be -how shall I put this?- deep. If I'm running into issues, I'll drop you a PM. Thanks!

BiancaNeve

Modstep.... Deep is a kind way of putting it.

Samu

Call me crazy but I'm already starting to think about automating RuisMaker even without knowing how many parameters there are under the hood but looking at the screenshot we have at least 97 (8 sounds with 12 parameters each plus global volume) parameters that can be automated

Add to that the regular velocity, pitch & mod-wheel and polyphonic aftertouch per sound...

nick

@brambos said:
For the Modstep fans... I haven't had time to do extensive testing yet, but it seems to be working:

That was quick, wow. And it does look great. Just make sure you can also unload Ruismaker without freezing modstep. That is happening in an au that just came out.

Will

Yum! Welcome @brambos!

sirdavidabraham

@brambos any chance of finger snaps and rain drop models in ruismaker?

gburks

@brambos said:

The project started out as a hardware drum machine, so its benchmarks were the TR-8, Volca Beats, Rhythm Wolf, JD-Xi and to a lesser extent the Machinedrum - also in terms of hands-on controls.

Is the hardware dream still alive? Was it to be analog or digital? (those benchmarks are a mix of both)

brambos

@brambos any chance of finger snaps and rain drop models in ruismaker?

Yes, please let me know your wishes for sounds. I plan to keep adding sound models.

Is the hardware dream still alive? Was it to be analog or digital? (those benchmarks are a mix of both)

Digital: the full concept was to make the hardware 'open-source' so that devs other than myself could replace the standard synth engine with alternative engines (based on source code that I will make available).

I still intend to keep that on the roadmap, but to overcome my sourcing difficulties it will probably help to 'build the brand' as an Audio Unit Extension.

You can read more about the history of the project here: https://medium.com/@brambos/ruismaker-whats-happening-8d3045c804ab#.j9lhjn46r

decibelle

Holy doodoo shut up and take my money.

supadom

Ok, so it sounds pretty cool. But let me get my head around it....so it is not going to work standalone, only as an AU plugin? My current hitable drum synth is impaktor albeit it doesn't work with midi but this would be great if it had say, Audiobus compatibility. Or am I totally up the wrong tree? @brambos

Samu

I'm thinking that hosting Ruismaker in an app such as AUM will solve most issues as it's easy to re-route midi from any app to the AUX plug-in hosted inside AUM.

For me having AUX support is more important at this point than either IAA or AB. Needless to say Ruismaker seems to be one of the AUX's that will push me into getting ModStep too...

paradiddle

@brambos I've had a similar idea for a while ever since I bought an spd-sx. Not satisfied with some of the software aspect of it, I've been thinking about building an octopad with an open source OS. Anyway looking forward to ruismaker (I've known your softwares since the hammerhead days)