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Sampletank 2 for iOS released

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  • @ikmultimedia said:
    Great! I will relay this information to the team. I'm glad to hear that issues have been resolved quickly and to your satisfaction.

    You can add my thanks and enthusiasm for the updates to the list as well!! Please do pass on the word--Great Job!! :smiley:

  • Where do we truly show our gratitude for great work ?
    AppStore reviews guys lets do it!
    I truly believe in giving credit wence credit is due o:)

    Now can we have a "Happy Customer Review Day" sale? :#

  • @ikmultimedia +1 on the multi audio outs. The moment this is implemented I'll be plunking down for Miroslav in thanks.

  • @Tovokas said:
    Excellent! IAA is now working as expected.

    That great news. Impressive stuff from IK Multimedia to get an update out so quickly.

  • :+1: Thanks for listening @ikmultimedia. Even if some of us are a little shy of some other things like LMC, we haven't thrown the IK baby out with the bathwater. :smiley: So. Kudos to you for working on things :sunglasses:

  • edited August 2016

    @ikmultimedia: Great to see almost all problems solved, but unfortunately my problem still continues just as before: Playing the Imperial using a Roland digital piano as a MIDI controller, ST2 always crashes after 10-15 seconds of play including the pedal (damper/sustain pedal). [Edit: Also just tried using the onscreen keyboard, and no pedal, of course, and still got the same crash.] Or rather by crash I mean the sound engine sputters and dies, like it's overloaded. Here are the details of my attempts to fix things:

    First updated from 2.0.0 to 2.0.1 after closing all apps and restarting my iPad Pro 12.9" 128Gb running iOS 9.3.4. Crashes kept happening. Restarted and opened app again, same thing. Deleted app, closed all apps, restarted iPad, installed app again. Restored purchases. Same crashes with Imperial.

    Shut down everything, restarted, same again. Also tried hosting in AUM with 1024 latency, same. Then deleted again and tried reinstall again, and still no luck. Also what happens now is that after the crash I need to restore purchases again. Sometimes I also need to manually delete the Imperial only, then reinstall that, because otherwise the keys stay grayed out. I also tried the low latency setting in ST2 and it didn't help.

    Can you please advise if there is anything else to try, @ikmultimedia, or if a fix is to be expected? I truly think this is the most gorgeous grand piano on iOS, and I so much want to be able to play it properly. Thank you!

  • Slightly off topic, but I like to mention it here: Years ago I got SampleTank FREE for free and then (a little less years ago) I upgraded to SampleTank (1.0?), but the app-icon always kept its little red band with the word FREE in it... That didn't feel good, because I payed for that upgrade and I expected to be 'equal' to the buyers of the first 'full' SampleTank-app and I didn't want to see this FREE-version-icon anymore! So the app felt cheap (you know that feeling...). Until the last update of SampleTank 2 (2.01)! My SampleTank is still called SampleTank FREE in the appstore, but the little red band with FREE in the icon is gone! Thank you IK Multimedia!

  • @Simo said:
    @ikmultimedia: Great to see almost all problems solved, but unfortunately my problem still continues just as before: Playing the Imperial using a Roland digital piano as a MIDI controller, ST2 always crashes after 10-15 seconds of play including the pedal (damper/sustain pedal). [Edit: Also just tried using the onscreen keyboard, and no pedal, of course, and still got the same crash.] Or rather by crash I mean the sound engine sputters and dies, like it's overloaded. Here are the details of my attempts to fix things:

    First updated from 2.0.0 to 2.0.1 after closing all apps and restarting my iPad Pro 12.9" 128Gb running iOS 9.3.4. Crashes kept happening. Restarted and opened app again, same thing. Deleted app, closed all apps, restarted iPad, installed app again. Restored purchases. Same crashes with Imperial.

    Shut down everything, restarted, same again. Also tried hosting in AUM with 1024 latency, same. Then deleted again and tried reinstall again, and still no luck. Also what happens now is that after the crash I need to restore purchases again. Sometimes I also need to manually delete the Imperial only, then reinstall that, because otherwise the keys stay grayed out. I also tried the low latency setting in ST2 and it didn't help.

    Can you please advise if there is anything else to try, @ikmultimedia, or if a fix is to be expected? I truly think this is the most gorgeous grand piano on iOS, and I so much want to be able to play it properly. Thank you!

    I'm not sure, this would be best reported directly to IK Support at http://www.ikmultimedia.com/contact-support/ios-apps/ and they can troubleshoot in more detail with you and figure out what's happening.

  • @Harro I hadn't noticed that, but it had bugged me - good spot!

  • edited August 2016

    @ikmultimedia said:

    @Simo said:
    @ikmultimedia: Great to see almost all problems solved, but unfortunately my problem still continues just as before: Playing the Imperial using a Roland digital piano as a MIDI controller, ST2 always crashes after 10-15 seconds of play including the pedal (damper/sustain pedal). [Edit: Also just tried using the onscreen keyboard, and no pedal, of course, and still got the same crash.] Or rather by crash I mean the sound engine sputters and dies, like it's overloaded. Here are the details of my attempts to fix things:

    First updated from 2.0.0 to 2.0.1 after closing all apps and restarting my iPad Pro 12.9" 128Gb running iOS 9.3.4. Crashes kept happening. Restarted and opened app again, same thing. Deleted app, closed all apps, restarted iPad, installed app again. Restored purchases. Same crashes with Imperial.

    Shut down everything, restarted, same again. Also tried hosting in AUM with 1024 latency, same. Then deleted again and tried reinstall again, and still no luck. Also what happens now is that after the crash I need to restore purchases again. Sometimes I also need to manually delete the Imperial only, then reinstall that, because otherwise the keys stay grayed out. I also tried the low latency setting in ST2 and it didn't help.

    Can you please advise if there is anything else to try, @ikmultimedia, or if a fix is to be expected? I truly think this is the most gorgeous grand piano on iOS, and I so much want to be able to play it properly. Thank you!

    I'm not sure, this would be best reported directly to IK Support at http://www.ikmultimedia.com/contact-support/ios-apps/ and they can troubleshoot in more detail with you and figure out what's happening.

    Thank you, I'll contact them. [Edit: I wonder if anyone else has had the same problem with the Imperial piano expansion pack? It would be helpful to hear more experiences.]

  • Work a lot better now on my Air 1, after the update. Also, no problems with Apple new iOS update to 9.3.5

  • Mind blowing!

  • @MusicMan4Christ said:
    I can't get guitar capo to play like Guitarism as every time I strum it asks me to chose a chord. But can someone test it please?

    Forgot to mention that this happens only when you strum but not when playing individual strings .

    Hi!

    It might be that you are holding a finger on one of the chord buttons. As default the chord picker will pop up when you hold for a second or two. Try going to 'settings' and turn on BA (Bass Along). This will play a bass tone when pressing the chord buttons instead of waiting to present the chord picker

    Hope this helps :)

  • edited September 2016

    I communicated with IK Multimedia support about my persistent problem: audio always cutting out on the Imperial grand expansion pianos after playing for only a little while using my Roland digital piano as a MIDI keyboard). After some messages back and forth, they were able to replicate the issue and are looking to resolve it.

    So far I haven't heard of anyone else having this problem, though, and I don't know when there might be an update that will include a fix. Eager (to stay the least) to get to play this piano more. I think it's the lushest, most pleasing piano on iOS (I have Module, iGrand, CMP, Gadget, Auria Pro, Cubasis; all expansions for them except for Auria). Played through decent floor speakers, I was unable to be fully happy with any of the others. Either there was rumbly bass, lifelessness or harshness of tone, too much brightness or lack of creamy blending together with chords, or things like that. Imperial finally gave me the sound I had been hoping for.

    In addition to the sound itself, I was also super impressed how finally I was able to achieve with it the perfect touch that eluded me with all other iOS pianos. I don't know all the intricacies going into the equation, but despite adjusting the heck out of both my Roland's velocity/touch setting (from very heavy to very light) and those of the various iOS pianos, I never before could get the perfect feel of full control over the sound based on the strength of my touch. It was always either too sensitive or not sensitive enough, with no perfect balance achievable, it seems.

    I don't know for sure, but I have a theory this might have something to do with the apps having been designed for non-weighted MIDI keyboards, not weighted or semi-weighted piano ones. But it seems to be different with the Imperial, or at least the end result is. And the greatest marvel was that it was perfect straight out of the box, using the default ST2 touch sensitivity setting.

  • @Simo said:
    I communicated with IK Multimedia support about my persistent problem: audio always cutting out on the Imperial grand expansion pianos after playing for only a little while using my Roland digital piano as a MIDI keyboard). After some messages back and forth, they were able to replicate the issue and are looking to resolve it.

    So far I haven't heard of anyone else having this problem, though, and I don't know when there might be an update that will include a fix. Eager (to stay the least) to get to play this piano more. I think it's the lushest, most pleasing piano on iOS (I have Module, iGrand, CMP, Gadget, Auria Pro, Cubasis; all expansions for them except for Auria). Played through decent floor speakers, I was unable to be fully happy with any of the others. Either there was rumbly bass, lifelessness or harshness of tone, too much brightness or lack of creamy blending together with chords, or things like that. Imperial finally gave me the sound I had been hoping for.

    In addition to the sound itself, I was also super impressed how finally I was able to achieve with it the perfect touch that eluded me with all other iOS pianos. I don't know all the intricacies going into the equation, but despite adjusting the heck out of both my Roland's velocity/touch setting (from very heavy to very light) and those of the various iOS pianos, I never before could get the perfect feel of full control over the sound based on the strength of my touch. It was always either too sensitive or not sensitive enough, with no perfect balance achievable, it seems.

    I don't know for sure, but I have a theory this might have something to do with the apps having been designed for non-weighted MIDI keyboards, not weighted or semi-weighted piano ones. But it seems to be different with the Imperial, or at least the end result is. And the greatest marvel was that it was perfect straight out of the box, using the default ST2 touch sensitivity setting.

    Wow! in other words, it is fantastic and it doesn't work!? That is really sad..

  • Any one noticed? IK Multimedia have reintroduced their famous ad pop-ups, this time in full color. I thought they had grown beyond that behaviour ...

  • edited September 2016

    @nick said:

    Wow! in other words, it is fantastic and it doesn't work!? That is really sad..

    Well, right now it doesn't for me, but I'm the only one I know who has the problem. I suppose not that many iOS musicians are using full digital pianos as MIDI controllers. Of course I wish I could be playing already, but I am okay with waiting as long as it doesn't take months. And in the meantime I wanted to give credit where it's due: it is well worth the money in my opinion. I've noticed several comments expressing lack of interest in yet another iOS piano, but while it might of course not be to someone else's taste, I was thrilled to find the one I've been looking for. Just waiting to get to play it. :smile:

  • @nick +1 annoying !!

  • Like I said, it may work perfectly for everyone else. It was a problem they had never seen until I reported it.

  • Is it possible to export sampled sounds from this to other apps?

  • @Simo said:

    @nick said:

    Wow! in other words, it is fantastic and it doesn't work!? That is really sad..

    Well, right now it doesn't for me, but I'm the only one I know who has the problem. I suppose not that many iOS musicians are using full digital pianos as MIDI controllers. Of course I wish I could be playing already, but I am okay with waiting as long as it doesn't take months. And in the meantime I wanted to give credit where it's due: it is well worth the money in my opinion. I've noticed several comments expressing lack of interest in yet another iOS piano, but while it might of course not be to someone else's taste, I was thrilled to find the one I've been looking for. Just waiting to get to play it. :smile:

    Mh, I too thought I don't need another piano but after reading your enthusiastic post and listening to some examples ... I think I'm beginning to seriously consider it :smile:
    Would you say the iPad version sounds similar to the ST3 demos of it on youtube?

  • @Simo said:
    I communicated with IK Multimedia support about my persistent problem: audio always cutting out on the Imperial grand expansion pianos after playing for only a little while using my Roland digital piano as a MIDI keyboard). After some messages back and forth, they were able to replicate the issue and are looking to resolve it.

    So far I haven't heard of anyone else having this problem, though, and I don't know when there might be an update that will include a fix. Eager (to stay the least) to get to play this piano more. I think it's the lushest, most pleasing piano on iOS (I have Module, iGrand, CMP, Gadget, Auria Pro, Cubasis; all expansions for them except for Auria). Played through decent floor speakers, I was unable to be fully happy with any of the others. Either there was rumbly bass, lifelessness or harshness of tone, too much brightness or lack of creamy blending together with chords, or things like that. Imperial finally gave me the sound I had been hoping for.

    In addition to the sound itself, I was also super impressed how finally I was able to achieve with it the perfect touch that eluded me with all other iOS pianos. I don't know all the intricacies going into the equation, but despite adjusting the heck out of both my Roland's velocity/touch setting (from very heavy to very light) and those of the various iOS pianos, I never before could get the perfect feel of full control over the sound based on the strength of my touch. It was always either too sensitive or not sensitive enough, with no perfect balance achievable, it seems.

    I don't know for sure, but I have a theory this might have something to do with the apps having been designed for non-weighted MIDI keyboards, not weighted or semi-weighted piano ones. But it seems to be different with the Imperial, or at least the end result is. And the greatest marvel was that it was perfect straight out of the box, using the default ST2 touch sensitivity setting.

    I use a fully weighted 88 keys digital piano as a controller myself, i cant really feel a major difference in sound between using a fully weighted vs a semi-weighted keyboard, i do notice some major differences in sound (for the worst) with light keyboards but that's more on my technique (i hate light keyboards) also my digital piano handles velocities really well.
    Regarding imperial grand its sound really good but i just cant spend that much money on a single piano, so i cant give it a try to see if it also happens to me, it cost a little more than the cost of module or the cost of igrand + IAP in my country and like you i have every single piano available on iOS so i thought in skipping this one and go for the pro soundpack instead, i do like igrand a lot even if it sounds a little opaque at times and module although some pianos are a a little harsh.

  • I have a problem running iPad4:

    I deleted ST to make room for installing iMaschine2. When I tried to redownloading, Appstore shows the "cloud", but the message "not compatible with your device" appears. Then the "cloud" is gone and shows "update" instead. But, update what? The app is not installed. Weird...

    I'll try to install it via iFunbox.

  • I find customer service on IK multimedia to be very good.

  • @fjcblanco said:
    I have a problem running iPad4:

    I deleted ST to make room for installing iMaschine2. When I tried to redownloading, Appstore shows the "cloud", but the message "not compatible with your device" appears. Then the "cloud" is gone and shows "update" instead. But, update what? The app is not installed. Weird...

    I'll try to install it via iFunbox.

    This new version it's not compatible with 32 bit devices I doubt ifunbox will work unless you have the 1.8.5 version stored somewhere else.

    This has happened to other people:

    http://cgi.ikmultimedia.com/ikforum/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=12449

    I'm Unable to install sampletank on my retired iPad 3 (32 bits) as well.

  • edited September 2016

    Thanks @Lacm1993.

    iTunes has downloaded de 2.x version, so I'll try to find the latest 32 bit compatible version. Not a dead or alive issue, though.

  • edited September 2016

    @nick said:

    Would you say the iPad version sounds similar to the ST3 demos of it on youtube?

    It's actually difficult for me to say, since I never yet recorded any of my playing on the iOS Imperial (because of the audio cut-outs), so I only got the experience of the sound together with the tactile side. For me both sound really good but I'm not expert enough to tell if they actually do differ in some way... I really love the feel and sound of the iOS version, but I try not to actually recommend purchases to anyone else, since it's all so much a matter of taste. I'd love to hear others' opinions on this piano, too, though. So far I've seen few comments on it.

    EDIT: Bad news: I can also produce the audio cut-out now without using the external MIDI keyboard. I had SampleTank being triggered by ThumbJam, put on the pedal lock in TJ, played for a minute or two, and the same audio cut-out happened. My iPad Pro 12.9" 128Gb (running current iOS) was not hooked into anything at the time. So it looks like the Imperial currently has a serious overall MIDI-related bug that could, I must assume, affect anyone regardless of the control method. Hope this will be fixed soon.

    Also this bug ALWAYS messes up something with the IAPs. When I restart the app, the keys are grayed out and I need to: restore purchases; delete the Imperial; download it again; then reselect a preset. Same also for the other expansion packs... I had already reported everything except the bad news in the paragraph above to IK Multimedia support.

  • @Simo said:
    @nick said:

    Would you say the iPad version sounds similar to the ST3 demos of it on youtube?

    It's actually difficult for me to say, since I never yet recorded any of my playing on the iOS Imperial (because of the audio cut-outs), so I only got the experience of the sound together with the tactile side. For me both sound really good but I'm not expert enough to tell if they actually do differ in some way... I really love the feel and sound of the iOS version, but I try not to actually recommend purchases to anyone else, since it's all so much a matter of taste. I'd love to hear others' opinions on this piano, too, though. So far I've seen few comments on it.

    EDIT: Bad news: I can also produce the audio cut-out now without using the external MIDI keyboard. I had SampleTank being triggered by ThumbJam, put on the pedal lock in TJ, played for a minute or two, and the same audio cut-out happened. My iPad Pro 12.9" 128Gb (running current iOS) was not hooked into anything at the time. So it looks like the Imperial currently has a serious overall MIDI-related bug that could, I must assume, affect anyone regardless of the control method. Hope this will be fixed soon.

    Also this bug ALWAYS messes up something with the IAPs. When I restart the app, the keys are grayed out and I need to: restore purchases; delete the Imperial; download it again; then reselect a preset. Same also for the other expansion packs... I had already reported everything except the bad news in the paragraph above to IK Multimedia support.

    thanks for the warning. that must be frustrating! please let us know if/when it is fixed at some point. I may get it eventually but I am in no hurry.

  • Recently ditched this app, after the update, due to the many grayed out sounds which are apparently only for owners of particular hardware. No option to buy as IAPs. No matter how much I spent on previous packs, I'm now a second class user unless I buy something I otherwise don't need. So, it's a parting of the ways. Not that it's any great loss, I was always more intrigued by the idea of Sample Tank than the app itself, which is was and remains clunky.

  • @Nkersov I don't own any of their hardware but I do own all IAP's apart from the Imperial piano. Not noticed too many grayed out sounds here.

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