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Cubasis 2 now available / special launch price

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  • @Nkersov said:
    Cubasis goes screwy?

    Dunno if anyone else is getting this, or if I've accidentally altered something. But Cubasis has become more difficult this morning. Specifically, lining up imported .wav files in tracks. Irrespective of whether I place these on the same or individual tracks, I can no longer get them to marry up perfectly so that one flows into the next.

    What happens now is that if, for example, an imported sample does not occupy a whole portion of the grid, I cannot move the next one along so that it matches up. Instead, it wants to overlap, which obviously buggers up the end of one loop and beginning of the next.

    What's your grid snap set to?

  • @sirdavidabraham said:

    What's your grid snap set to?

    Screen grab attached. Probably me doing something wrong?

  • Ah, just fixed it by turning off the grid. Still not sure why this didn't happen before, when grid was on?

  • @Nkersov said:
    Cubasis goes screwy?

    Dunno if anyone else is getting this, or if I've accidentally altered something. But Cubasis has become more difficult this morning. Specifically, lining up imported .wav files in tracks. Irrespective of whether I place these on the same or individual tracks, I can no longer get them to marry up perfectly so that one flows into the next.

    What happens now is that if, for example, an imported sample does not occupy a whole portion of the grid, I cannot move the next one along so that it matches up. Instead, it wants to overlap, which obviously buggers up the end of one loop and beginning of the next.

    FWIW, I can line the same samples up with perfect precision in Auria Pro.

    Grid settings ?

  • @AndyPlankton said:
    Grid settings ?

    >

    Yep. Couldn't see it for looking, until @sirdavidabraham was first to make the suggestion.

  • @Nkersov said:
    Ah, just fixed it by turning off the grid. Still not sure why this didn't happen before, when grid was on?

    It all depends on the length of what you lined up with. Your grid was set to 1/16 and your last piece ended over that resolution therefore it locked to the next available 16 th as it should have.

  • @Samu said:

    @ElGregoLoco said:
    Yeah... And it's not like it's really hard to copy/paste your loop (midi or audio) a dozen of times (or more) to have a backing track for a whole song duration...

    But a pain and creativity breaker if changes to the original back-beat need to be done and the copy & paste procedure has to be repeated all over again...

    Even if copy&paste is fast it's not as fast as 'Toggle Loop On/Off' :D

    Ok man, you got a good point here, I did not take that into account.
    But to be frank, and not trying to be a smart ass, this is probably the kind of small limitations that help me be creative (e.g. I copy/past my main rythm part a dozen times, play on it and then I modify the rythm differently on each part of the song, in function of what I played on it, ... Which lead to a full song with variation)...
    Peace.

    PS : anyway, having the loop function would probably be a good point...

  • @Nkersov said:
    Cubasis goes screwy?
    What happens now is that if, for example, an imported sample does not occupy a whole portion of the grid, I cannot move the next one along so that it matches up. Instead, it wants to overlap, which obviously buggers up the end of one loop and beginning of the next.

    I did not notice that and am not sure that I completly understand the issue (a drawing Audiogus ? lol)...
    But are you sure that it is not simply a grid / snapping issue ?

  • @Nkersov said:

    What happens now is that if, for example, an imported sample does not occupy a whole portion of the grid, I cannot move the next one along so that it matches up. Instead, it wants to overlap, which obviously buggers up the end of one loop and beginning of the next.

    Check the 'Grid' settings. That's about the only thing I can think of right now...

  • edited September 2016

    Amazingly this happened to me yesterday since I couldn't figure it out I just used undo a much of times. :D

    Anyways for us guys who have no clue what grids are used for , where can I get more info on how this works or its used for?
    In old school Tascam guys press record and let it roll! :# o:)

  • @MusicMan4Christ said:

    Anyways for us guys who have no clue what grids are used for , where can I get more info on how this works or its used for?

    The 'Grid' is a helpful tool to 'snap' things into place when moving stuff around.
    So if you have a 4-bar loop and have the grid set to 1-bar the movement is done in 1-bar steps.
    If you need finer movement of the event, set the grid to 1/16 or 'Off'(Which in Cubasis is 1/192nd note).

    The 'Grid' is also helpful when trimming recorded audio as it can 'snap' to bar-boundaries or what ever value the grid is set to. For more precise sample-editing set the 'time-indicator' to time instead of bars/beats.

  • Thanks Samu, really interesting. For some reason I always left it at 1/16 but had no clue. Now I understand it. :)

  • LFSLFS
    edited September 2016

    Hi all,

    Regarding copy / paste please give this a try:

    • Launch Cubasis
    • Create a track and import a loop from the factory library to bar 1
    • Make sure track one is selected and copy the audio part
    • Tapping "Paste" now automatically aligns copies of that part next to it

    Should work as expected and should not take much time.

    Best,
    Lars

  • @AndyPlankton said:
    PS : anyway, having the loop function would probably be a good point...

    >

    Yes, if Mr Lars is still watching, then adding the ability to loop one or more tracks, audio and midi, would be a wonderful thing for many of us.

  • @Samu said:

    For more precise sample-editing set the 'time-indicator' to time instead of bars/beats.
    >

    Thanks, will give that a go.

  • @Samu said:

    @MusicMan4Christ said:

    Anyways for us guys who have no clue what grids are used for , where can I get more info on how this works or its used for?

    The 'Grid' is a helpful tool to 'snap' things into place when moving stuff around.
    So if you have a 4-bar loop and have the grid set to 1-bar the movement is done in 1-bar steps.
    If you need finer movement of the event, set the grid to 1/16 or 'Off'(Which in Cubasis is 1/192nd note).

    The 'Grid' is also helpful when trimming recorded audio as it can 'snap' to bar-boundaries or what ever value the grid is set to. For more precise sample-editing set the 'time-indicator' to time instead of bars/beats.

    Also useful to note that the automation lanes are subject to the grid settings. If you have It set to Bars, and are trying to draw automation, the drawing may seem unresponsive. If it's set to Off, you'll get what could be excessive data points. Set it for the task at hand and it's very powerful.

  • @Nkersov said:

    @AndyPlankton said:
    PS : anyway, having the loop function would probably be a good point...

    >

    Yes, if Mr Lars is still watching, then adding the ability to loop one or more tracks, audio and midi, would be a wonderful thing for many of us.

    This really would be a nice songwriting feature to add. I imagine turning a clip's "Loop" on, then dragging a marker out from the right side of the clip to extend it's duration as far as needed. Double click it and there's only the single clip to edit.

  • @Samu I agree that the 1/192nd snap minumum is not quite good enough for power users, so would 1/384 be an acceptable Grid lowest common denominator, in your opinion? 768? They have to base their math off something reasonable to make best use of the iPad's relatively limited resources (I assume this is their motivation, anyway).

  • @aaronpc said:
    @Samu I agree that the 1/192nd snap minumum is not quite good enough for power users, so would 1/384 be an acceptable Grid lowest common denominator, in your opinion? 768? They have to base their math off something reasonable to make best use of the iPad's relatively limited resources (I assume this is their motivation, anyway).

    Korg Gadget and Yamaha Music Mobile Sequencer among others use internal resolution of 480PPQ.
    LogicPro X uses 960PPQ as it's internal resolution and I suspect that's the same for Desktop Cubase too.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pulses_per_quarter_note

    It could be that Cubasis already uses higher resolution internally but the UI snaps to 1/192nd notes.
    I can't find any detailed tech-specs on Cubasis though...

  • @Samu said:

    @aaronpc said:
    @Samu I agree that the 1/192nd snap minumum is not quite good enough for power users, so would 1/384 be an acceptable Grid lowest common denominator, in your opinion? 768? They have to base their math off something reasonable to make best use of the iPad's relatively limited resources (I assume this is their motivation, anyway).

    Korg Gadget and Yamaha Music Mobile Sequencer among others use internal resolution of 480PPQ.
    LogicPro X uses 960PPQ as it's internal resolution and I suspect that's the same for Desktop Cubase too.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pulses_per_quarter_note

    It could be that Cubasis already uses higher resolution internally but the UI snaps to 1/192nd notes.
    I can't find any detailed tech-specs on Cubasis though...

    Interesting. Thanks.

  • @aaronpc said:

    Interesting. Thanks.

    Found this thread over at the Steinberg Cubasis forum regarding Midi Resolution of Cubasis.
    https://www.steinberg.net/forums/viewtopic.php?f=183&t=59378

  • I've been doing some recording these past few days. The undo leaves cubasis hanging and unresponsive. Have to force quit it. Pressing new project and naming it does nothing. But when restarted for the 4th time, 3 new projects is shown. I'm on iPad Air 2 10.0.2

  • 1/192 is not good. It's the equivalent of 48 PPQ. In lower tempos it becomes really nasty for pianos. Garageband, for instance, seems to have a bettter resolution. Auria Pro has the same resolution of Logic Pro, 960 PPQ (source: http://auriaapp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=14497). It surprises me it wasn't improved for Cubasis 2, since MIDI in central for the Cubasis experience.

    On the positive side, I'm quite enjoying Micrologue: just found out its filters can self oscilate, which is crucial for designing kicks, for example. Great. It would be really nice if the noise oscilator had a pink/brown noise option for heavier percussive sounds, but it's quite useful and straightforward as is.

  • @theconnactic said:

    On the positive side, I'm quite enjoying Micrologue: just found out its filters can self oscilate, which is crucial for designing kicks, for example. Great. It would be really nice if the noise oscilator had a pink/brown noise option for heavier percussive sounds, but it's quite useful and straightforward as is.

    Yepp! Despite a few mentioned issues there is a lot of things to like about Cubasis too.
    (The Mini-Sampler and Micrologue are pretty creative tools as is freeze-processing audio thru various effects to create new samples).

    Knowing that the 'issues' are in good hands of Lars @LFS and the Cubasis-Team makes me feel re-assured that all good things are worth waiting for :D

  • Is it possible to make an IAP(to full version) in the Cubasis LE 2 "demo/free" version?

  • edited September 2016

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  • edited September 2016

    Is it a bug? When I try to record audio material in a track and set the track to loop, the recording stops before the loop ends and jumps back to the beginning. It only happens when recording audio, doesn't happen with internal or AU instruments. Tried on Air1 and Mini4 with same results :-( Never had that problem before the update.

  • @marcuspresident said:
    Is it possible to make an IAP(to full version) in the Cubasis LE 2 "demo/free" version?

    Cubasis LE 2 requires a hardware unlock first before it is possible to buy the full feature set in-app purchase.

    Best,
    Lars

  • It is a great update! Love it!

    Only one thing is missing, but that I miss very very much. This one thing is Ableton Link.

    Please add this feature! If Propellerheads could do it with Reason you can do it with Cubase(is).

  • @Music_isfun said:
    It is a great update! Love it!

    Only one thing is missing, but that I miss very very much. This one thing is Ableton Link.

    Please add this feature! If Propellerheads could do it with Reason you can do it with Cubase(is).

    Please see: https://forum.audiob.us/discussion/15093/link-implementation-in-a-daw

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