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Korg iWavestation has landed! :)

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  • Oh who am I kidding I do want to hear this demo.

  • Milpitas is here

  • edited November 2016

    @gsm909 said:
    Milpitas is here

    seperate Gadget version?

  • Militias , what the F---- is a Milpitas?

  • @mannix, yeah, that is the Gadget update, in the store.

  • @Tritonman said:
    Militias , what the F---- is a Milpitas?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milpitas,_California

  • The next thing to find out is whether Milpitas, the iWavestation gadget, will be identical, as neither iM1 or Odyssei are completely integrated into Gadget

    Darwin can't be programmed. You can only make patches in iM1, save them on a card and then use them in Darwin. After that there are only 10 knobs for controlling Darwin. More importantly, iM1 has Multis, which allow you to combine up to 8 patches. Most of the best sounds are Multis. Darwin is just one patch, which is composed of one or two sounds.

    Lexington is not Odyssei. It lacks the arpeggiator, which can be used to modulate pretty much everything. Many of the same patches in Lexington don't sound as interesting as they do in Odyssei.

    I don't think this is an accident. Perhaps Gadget works as well as it does because each Gadget has a small footprint on system resources. I doubt we will ever see a gadget with the demands of say, a Model 15 or DrumPerfect.

    You can do a lot with a little, as for example Roland Sound Canvas (44 MB), Sunrizer (43 MB), TC-11 (55 MB), Geoshred (59 MB), Addictive Synth (62 MB), FM4 (65 MB), etc.

    From a marketing point of view this is brilliant, because so many great synths are being introduced, that it's easy for appaholics to resist some of them. But if we are Gadget users, this is a two-for-one deal.

  • @Samu said:

    @Tritonman said:
    Militias , what the F---- is a Milpitas?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milpitas,_California

    I had to look it up as well. Rather obscure location name compared to other gadgets.

  • @Tritonman said:
    Militias , what the F---- is a Milpitas?

    A city in California. All the Gadgets are named after cities.

    Looks like they fixed the knobs in linear mode in Gadget! They are a lot smoother now.

    Also, no way to search the patches, etc. like in the iM1? :( That is a good feature.

  • @richardyot said:
    On first impressions it's very similar to iM1, but I think I prefer the sound of iM1 (subjective opinion). This sounds a trifle too cheesy to me, whereas the iM1 somehow didn't.

    Maybe if I dig a little deeper I will find more sounds to like, there's enough of them.

    In a cheesy hotel room in Chicago about to go sing for my supper all day (in a decidedly unmusical way) otherwise I would have bought this already, but, talking of cheese, your quick review helps me hold my fire. Folks complained that iM1 was cheddarish when it was released so if you think this is yet more so I think I will certainly hold off for demos....

  • Another 8 hours until I'm home and able to download. Im sure there'll be some demo vids posted by then ...

  • There is a sound demo in Gadget.

  • I haven't time to dig in today. But I really like it so far. Very easy to change and modify sounds.

  • How does it compare to the Legacy vst ?

  • By the way, Milpitas, California is where R&D for Korg USA is located.

  • @JohnnyGoodyear said:

    @richardyot said:
    On first impressions it's very similar to iM1, but I think I prefer the sound of iM1 (subjective opinion). This sounds a trifle too cheesy to me, whereas the iM1 somehow didn't.

    Maybe if I dig a little deeper I will find more sounds to like, there's enough of them.

    In a cheesy hotel room in Chicago about to go sing for my supper all day (in a decidedly unmusical way) otherwise I would have bought this already, but, talking of cheese, your quick review helps me hold my fire. Folks complained that iM1 was cheddarish when it was released so if you think this is yet more so I think I will certainly hold off for demos....

    I held off on the iM1 for ages due to reported cheese tinged sounds, but eventually gave in and bought the thing. Initially I enjoyed using it, but after a while the lack of decent sounds has meant it's been neglected. Occasionally I'll open it to see if I can find a nice bass or piano, but end up closing it and finding my sounds elsewhere. It's nice to have it in Gadget though, where there's less competition.

    Look forward to hearing some demos, but this could be a resistable offering.

  • MIlpitas, California is where the ex-Sequential Circuits team that developed the Wavestation were based.

  • @Samu said:
    Korg Prophecy with re-imagined touch-interface for controlling multiple parameters etc. would be a real boon too :)

    Yes yes yes yes yes!!!

    And, if they went ahead and modeled a Rhodes Chroma completely too (thinking ARP IP there). And did the Mono/Poly as well. :smile:

  • The wavestation is a very different synth to the M1.
    It is far more oriented to evolving soundscapes and textures and utilises vector synthesis and wave sequencing.

    The M1 was very much a bread and butter stage keyboard in comparison.

    As for 'cheese', well , that is a matter of taste. Certainly, both keyboards are of their era as far as the preset programming goes.

    The wavestation is very deep, has excellent effects and great sounds can be had from it. Assuming, that korg have added a resonant filter, as they did in the latter Legacy versions, then this makes it even deeper and more flexible sonically.

    What I assume will be missing , as in the Legacy version, is that certain gritty warmth that the hardware DACs imbue the sound with.

  • edited November 2016

    ok, first question. In Gadget it appears to have all the programming of the standalone available but I can't see an option to store your own patches?

    Edit: Does not have all the programming available in Gadget. Can select the waves sequences but not fine edit them.
    It's also flipping complicated!

  • It looks like you have access to a lot of the parameters in Gadget, but I can't see a way to save a patch so far.

    But, you do have a vector arm to do real time modulation and you can edit a lot if stuff for all the slices like you can in the iWavestation app. Seems more deep than the iM1 is in Gadget.

  • @Reid said:
    The next thing to find out is whether Milpitas, the iWavestation gadget, will be identical, as neither iM1 or Odyssei

    are completely integrated into Gadget

    @Jes said:
    The wavestation is a very different synth to the M1.
    It is far more oriented to evolving soundscapes and textures and utilises vector synthesis and wave sequencing.

    As long as those evolving sounds are not longer than 16 bars you'll be alright in Gadget...

  • Anyone tried it with the Kaoss pad yet? How is it? It's not weird or wonky or has a permanently enabled gate arpeggiator or any bullshit like that right?

  • edited November 2016

    great! I'm tempted to buy the IAP as well. I think korg might take a while before releasing a major new app (they've just release 2 within a month I think), now honestly I just want them to release a guitar gadget for gadget.

    As with ODYSSEi I'm not a fan of the iPhone UI, but I think the fact that korg "make it work" on the phone means there's no excuse for iM1 not to be there as well for the iPhone guys.

  • Oh I'm all excited like on Christmas morning.....heading out to get an itunes card
    But i swear after this that's it for awhile, well for at least a week:)

  • @JohnnyGoodyear
    You are in the right city today, that wavestation demo in gadget just gave me an uncontrollable urge to watch a john hughes movie...and yes, I know it was not released until 1990, the 80's officially ended in 1992.

  • OH MY GOODNESS, its out!!! But I can't see it in the iaps of Gadget, yet???

  • @Jay Zen said:
    OH MY GOODNESS, its out!!! But I can't see it in the iaps of Gadget, yet???

    Have you updated Gadget yet ???

  • Blow me down, how different things can look in a few hours! Just found this as a Gadget update, and apparently with AB and IAA, and at the right price!

  • Damn!........ There goes Tiny Tims new crouches this Chrimbo......... He's going to have to wait until next Christmas....... :)

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