Sensual Sax by Embertone - The Most Realistic iOS Virtual Instrument Yet?

decibelle

I'm considering getting a refund and reporting the app.

db909

well this is getting interesting. I'm making popcorn

decibelle

@Patric_Bateman said:
It's a brilliant marketing move. "Sax sells" never forget. People will be talking about this stupid but funny knob for quite some time.

Of course it's juvenile. That's what makes it funny.

I'm glad you've never been sexually assaulted.

As one who has, more times than I can count, I can assure you, this ... offensive waste of cpu is most assuredly gravely serious. I don't laugh at sexual assault. I'm sorry you do.

In this app, consent was not sought, nor was it given. That's the difference between "sex" and "assault".

Funny. No.

studioAB

@decibelle said:
I think of the "SEX" control as "SFX" with an extra line graffiti'd on by an adolescent boy.

Personally, I bought the app and like the sound very much. Having said that, there are some features which piss me off.

That scrolling message about abusing the sex knob? Gratuitous puerile bullshit unrelated to any of the audio functions and having been targeted by actual abusers, I find the whole "Haha penis" mood of the app very much offensive.

I want to make music, not be reminded yet again that men have knobs and think about poking them at things all day and night.

I am struggling to believe an established company actually puts their name to this app, Embertone should be embarassed.

Yes, my reproductive organs are internal, surprise, not all music makers are knobs. I should not have to tell you this, Embertone. Take the erotica out of my music app please.

Seriously. I was turned off by "things are getting hot in here" phrase but didn't know there was another one about abusing the knob. I see it now. Very juvenile and annoying really when I am just trying to make music.

dabusgo

Fear the word and you give it power.

decibelle

@dabusgo said:
Fear the word and you give it power.

Spew glib trite drivel and reveal your true nature.

Patric_Bateman

@decibelle said:

@Patric_Bateman said:
It's a brilliant marketing move. "Sax sells" never forget. People will be talking about this stupid but funny knob for quite some time.

Of course it's juvenile. That's what makes it funny.

I'm glad you've never been sexually assaulted.

As one who has, more times than I can count, I can assure you, this ... offensive waste of cpu is most assuredly gravely serious. I don't laugh at sexual assault. I'm sorry you do.

In this app, consent was not sought, nor was it given. That's the difference between "sex" and "assault".

Funny. No.

Obviously some bad stuff happened in your life, and i'm sorry for that. You should learn though, to not be offended at everything. Like @dabusgo said, you only give it power over you. Most people will see it for what it is, a juvenile, stupid, funny joke. Yes, it is funny. Saxophone music is a cliché, just search your itunes client for "sensual sax" and look at the results.

People like to laugh. It actually makes the world a better place.

JohnnyGoodyear

Not an example of what this app can do despite it's dodgy wrapper, but more an example of what it can do after ten minutes in the hands of a clumsy fool.

[Deleted User]

Can I get that dirty growling but still sweet Soft Cell sax like sound?

db909

@Fruitbat1919 the only sax you'll be getting here is of the super sensual variety (I don't actually know)

ExAsperis99

@Patric_Bateman said:

@AlexB said:
I see all this discussion about the Sex button and well... just find funny that grown up people see that word and blush...or even worse, they find it offensive or politically incorrect. We come from sex, no matter who you are or how many times one goes to church per week.

The fact that people have to even talk about it is amazing. It's a brilliant marketing move. Wouldn't be surprised if some "mainstream" blogs would pick this up and send this app to the charts.

I think you are projecting. The idea of sex is never far from music. I object because it's stupid. It's about as sexy as a Miss America poster in a mall.

RedSkyLullaby

@JohnnyGoodyear said:
Not an example of what this app can do despite it's dodgy wrapper, but more an example of what it can do after ten minutes in the hands of a clumsy fool.

Sweet saxual delights

oat_phipps

Bought! I'm comin for you, Tesh!

RedSkyLullaby

decibelle

@Patric_Bateman said:

@decibelle said:

@Patric_Bateman said:
It's a brilliant marketing move. "Sax sells" never forget. People will be talking about this stupid but funny knob for quite some time.

Of course it's juvenile. That's what makes it funny.

I'm glad you've never been sexually assaulted.

As one who has, more times than I can count, I can assure you, this ... offensive waste of cpu is most assuredly gravely serious. I don't laugh at sexual assault. I'm sorry you do.

In this app, consent was not sought, nor was it given. That's the difference between "sex" and "assault".

Funny. No.

Obviously some bad stuff happened in your life, and i'm sorry for that. You should learn though, to not be offended at everything. Like @dabusgo said, you only give it power over you. Most people will see it for what it is, a juvenile, stupid, funny joke. Yes, it is funny. Saxophone music is a cliché, just search your itunes client for "sensual sax" and look at the results.

People like to laugh. It actually makes the world a better place.

Instead of informing me what you think I need to learn, perhaps you might benefit from taking your own advice and stop to figure out why you think your few yuks are so very much more important than other people's hurts.

Oh hell your thinking is just way too broken for me to explain, if you don't care, then that's who you are I guess. Good luck with that.

Yes, I'm judging you.

RedSkyLullaby

@decibelle said:

@Patric_Bateman said:
It's a brilliant marketing move. "Sax sells" never forget. People will be talking about this stupid but funny knob for quite some time.

Of course it's juvenile. That's what makes it funny.

I'm glad you've never been sexually assaulted.

As one who has, more times than I can count, I can assure you, this ... offensive waste of cpu is most assuredly gravely serious. I don't laugh at sexual assault. I'm sorry you do.

In this app, consent was not sought, nor was it given. That's the difference between "sex" and "assault".

Funny. No.

I'm sure to regret engaging but....I am not seeing how we jumped from a slightly cheesy tongue in cheek marketing ploy to sexual assault? The appstore description says "mild/mature, suggestive themes" so you can pay your money and take your choice, if suggestive themes are not your thing then there is fair warning in the description before you buy. For some it will be a deal breaker and a crass shell to a potentially excellent app for others the juvenile humor will appeal and I don't think there is anything wrong with either viewpoint

decibelle

@RedSkyLullaby said:

@decibelle said:

@Patric_Bateman said:
It's a brilliant marketing move. "Sax sells" never forget. People will be talking about this stupid but funny knob for quite some time.

Of course it's juvenile. That's what makes it funny.

I'm glad you've never been sexually assaulted.

As one who has, more times than I can count, I can assure you, this ... offensive waste of cpu is most assuredly gravely serious. I don't laugh at sexual assault. I'm sorry you do.

In this app, consent was not sought, nor was it given. That's the difference between "sex" and "assault".

Funny. No.

I'm sure to regret engaging but....I am not seeing how we jumped from a slightly cheesy tongue in cheek marketing ploy to sexual assault? The appstore description says "mild/mature, suggestive themes" so you can pay your money and take your choice, if suggestive themes are not your thing then there is fair warning in the description before you buy. For some it will be a deal breaker and a crass shell to a potentially excellent app for others the juvenile humor will appeal and I don't think there is anything wrong with either viewpoint

@RedSkyLullaby I reference the all caps message endlessly repeating every few seconds which I cannot turn off:

"DO NOT ABUSE THE SEX KNOB. DO NOT ABUSE THE SEX KNOB. DO NOT ABUSE THE SEX KNOB. DO NOT ABUSE THE SEX KNOB. DO NOT ABUSE THE SEX KNOB. DO NOT ABUSE THE SEX KNOB. DO NOT ABUSE THE SEX KNOB. DO NOT ABUSE THE SEX KNOB."

[Deleted User]

@decibelle said:
Although I'd prefer the overt erotica were all gone, ultimatelyI don't give a shit about what the central control is called. That's why I bought the app.

What I was not told about and object to is being repeatedly issued dirty old man directives every 60 seconds or so when I'm trying to make some bloody music.

I agree. When I first looked at this thread today I was excited about the sound quality and realism of the saxophone.. I went onto the developers site and it seemed very good so I went to buy it without even reading any of the app description or warning. I really don't like the sexual directives as I'm trying to get the sound textures I want. I don't get it. It's a respected company, were they afraid the app would not get enough traction without the sex sells stuff?And if they release another app there may be expectations for more of that. Unfortunately we live in a hypersexualized society and my heart goes out to any victim

decibelle

@Arpseechord said:

@decibelle said:
Although I'd prefer the overt erotica were all gone, ultimatelyI don't give a shit about what the central control is called. That's why I bought the app.

What I was not told about and object to is being repeatedly issued dirty old man directives every 60 seconds or so when I'm trying to make some bloody music.

I agree. When I first looked at this thread today I was excited about the sound quality and realism of the saxophone.. I went onto the developers site and it seemed very good so I went to buy it without even reading any of the app description or warning. I really don't like the sexual directives as I'm trying to get the sound textures I want. I don't get it. It's a respected company, were they afraid the app would not get enough traction without the sex sells stuff?And if they release another app there may be expectations for more of that. Unfortunately we live in a hypersexualized society and my heart goes out to any victim

What warning?

I just went back and checked. All it claims is "Infrequent/Mild Mature/Suggestive Themes"

I cannot for the life of me reconcile my understanding of "infrequent" with the impossible-to-shut-off every few second scrolling all caps "DO NOT ABUSE THE SEX KNOB DO NOT ABUSE THE SEX KNOB DO NOT ABUSE THE SEX KNOB DO NOT ABUSE THE SEX KNOB DO NOT ABUSE THE SEX KNOB DO NOT ABUSE THE SEX KNOB"

I don't think that can legitimately fit the definition of "warning". There is no advisory that this is porn using music making to gain access to the appstore.

If any non porn app needs this much sex to sell itself, then it must be pretty crap.

But this one isn't so wtf.

stemshade

I like this but i think the graphics are horrible. It plays into two stereotypes i like to avoid: one is that sax is only for cheesy music and the other (which is a constant argument i have with my musician (snob) friends....that ipads are toy instruments,...not serious.

Hopefully the graphics get updated.

JohnnyGoodyear

I sense an MBA course in the making....

[Deleted User]

@decibelle I can see how having so much sexual innuendo in an app where you wouldn't expect to experience it would be very disconcerting to someone whose experienced sexual abuse. Perhaps Apple should update the rating of the app to reflect the level of sexual innuendo upwards from 9+.

While the content doesn't bother me personally, I do think it's reasonable for other people who would be to have a better idea of what they're getting into so they can make a reasonable decision for themselves.

RedSkyLullaby

@decibelle said:

@Arpseechord said:

@decibelle said:
Although I'd prefer the overt erotica were all gone, ultimatelyI don't give a shit about what the central control is called. That's why I bought the app.

What I was not told about and object to is being repeatedly issued dirty old man directives every 60 seconds or so when I'm trying to make some bloody music.

I agree. When I first looked at this thread today I was excited about the sound quality and realism of the saxophone.. I went onto the developers site and it seemed very good so I went to buy it without even reading any of the app description or warning. I really don't like the sexual directives as I'm trying to get the sound textures I want. I don't get it. It's a respected company, were they afraid the app would not get enough traction without the sex sells stuff?And if they release another app there may be expectations for more of that. Unfortunately we live in a hypersexualized society and my heart goes out to any victim

What warning?

I just went back and checked. All it claims is "Infrequent/Mild Mature/Suggestive Themes"

I cannot for the life of me reconcile my understanding of "infrequent" with the impossible-to-shut-off every few second scrolling all caps "DO NOT ABUSE THE SEX KNOB DO NOT ABUSE THE SEX KNOB DO NOT ABUSE THE SEX KNOB DO NOT ABUSE THE SEX KNOB DO NOT ABUSE THE SEX KNOB DO NOT ABUSE THE SEX KNOB"

I don't think that can legitimately fit the definition of "warning". There is no advisory that this is porn using music making to gain access to the appstore.

If any non porn app needs this much sex to sell itself, then it must be pretty crap.

But this one isn't so wtf.

You have a point for sure. Would suggest ask for refund which they will most likely give, feedback to Apple and they may re-review the rating.

Matthew

I understand some people want their sex knob removed, but could you make mine bigger please?

[Deleted User]

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Patric_Bateman

@decibelle said:

@Patric_Bateman said:

@decibelle said:

@Patric_Bateman said:
It's a brilliant marketing move. "Sax sells" never forget. People will be talking about this stupid but funny knob for quite some time.

Of course it's juvenile. That's what makes it funny.

I'm glad you've never been sexually assaulted.

As one who has, more times than I can count, I can assure you, this ... offensive waste of cpu is most assuredly gravely serious. I don't laugh at sexual assault. I'm sorry you do.

In this app, consent was not sought, nor was it given. That's the difference between "sex" and "assault".

Funny. No.

Obviously some bad stuff happened in your life, and i'm sorry for that. You should learn though, to not be offended at everything. Like @dabusgo said, you only give it power over you. Most people will see it for what it is, a juvenile, stupid, funny joke. Yes, it is funny. Saxophone music is a cliché, just search your itunes client for "sensual sax" and look at the results.

People like to laugh. It actually makes the world a better place.

Instead of informing me what you think I need to learn, perhaps you might benefit from taking your own advice and stop to figure out why you think your few yuks are so very much more important than other people's hurts.

Oh hell your thinking is just way too broken for me to explain, if you don't care, then that's who you are I guess. Good luck with that.

Yes, I'm judging you.

You can judge me all you want, all i will ever do is pity you. How do you even make it through a day, when this silly app triggers you to such an extent? Your kind is insufferable, the only positive thing about people like you is, that you helped Trump get elected.

KKthxbye

db909

Well it sounds really good, is easy to set up with midi and is Audiobus compatible right from the get go. Tis a good app by those standards. And wasn't there a guy in here asking for a decent sax emulation on iOS not long ago? Ask and you shall receive. Cheers to that guy!

Nkersov

@decibelle said:
I want to make music, not be reminded yet again that men have knobs and think about poking them at things all day and night.

I'm surprised that you would make such a generalisation. In the time I've been here, I've never read any comment from a male (or female) contributor that was genitalia based. Sure, all adults think about sex, but most of us have lots of other things going on in our lives, too.

decibelle

Patric_Bateman said:

@decibelle said:

Patric_Bateman said:

@decibelle said:

Patric_Bateman said:
It's a brilliant marketing move. "Sax sells" never forget. People will be talking about this stupid but funny knob for quite some time.

Of course it's juvenile. That's what makes it funny.

I'm glad you've never been sexually assaulted.

As one who has, more times than I can count, I can assure you, this ... offensive waste of cpu is most assuredly gravely serious. I don't laugh at sexual assault. I'm sorry you do.

In this app, consent was not sought, nor was it given. That's the difference between "sex" and "assault".

Funny. No.

Obviously some bad stuff happened in your life, and i'm sorry for that. You should learn though, to not be offended at everything. Like dabusgo said, you only give it power over you. Most people will see it for what it is, a juvenile, stupid, funny joke. Yes, it is funny. Saxophone music is a cliché, just search your itunes client for "sensual sax" and look at the results.

People like to laugh. It actually makes the world a better place.

Instead of informing me what you think I need to learn, perhaps you might benefit from taking your own advice and stop to figure out why you think your few yuks are so very much more important than other people's hurts.

Oh hell your thinking is just way too broken for me to explain, if you don't care, then that's who you are I guess. Good luck with that.

Yes, I'm judging you.

You can judge me all you want, all i will ever do is pity you. How do you even make it through a day, when this silly app triggers you to such an extent? Your kind is insufferable, the only positive thing about people like you is, that you helped Trump get elected.

KKthxbye

I'm being absolutely serious now, thank you very much, I feel so much better!

Because straightforward good faith behaviours explicitly reject off-topic personal ad hominem attacks, whereas those strategies along with a few others are reliable indicators of trolling, i.e. the exact strategies you have used on me.

A person who trolls finds me insufferable? Awesome. That gives me a happy.

Nkersov

@Grobles87 said:
I mean I was considering using this sax for some songs at church.<

Rock 'n' roll is the Devil's music. You'll be safer shaking your tambourine.