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  • @Patric_Bateman said:

    @decibelle said:

    @Patric_Bateman said:

    @decibelle said:

    @Patric_Bateman said:
    It's a brilliant marketing move. "Sax sells" never forget. People will be talking about this stupid but funny knob for quite some time.

    Of course it's juvenile. That's what makes it funny.

    I'm glad you've never been sexually assaulted.

    As one who has, more times than I can count, I can assure you, this ... offensive waste of cpu is most assuredly gravely serious. I don't laugh at sexual assault. I'm sorry you do.

    In this app, consent was not sought, nor was it given. That's the difference between "sex" and "assault".

    Funny. No.

    Obviously some bad stuff happened in your life, and i'm sorry for that. You should learn though, to not be offended at everything. Like @dabusgo said, you only give it power over you. Most people will see it for what it is, a juvenile, stupid, funny joke. Yes, it is funny. Saxophone music is a cliché, just search your itunes client for "sensual sax" and look at the results.

    People like to laugh. It actually makes the world a better place.

    Instead of informing me what you think I need to learn, perhaps you might benefit from taking your own advice and stop to figure out why you think your few yuks are so very much more important than other people's hurts.

    Oh hell your thinking is just way too broken for me to explain, if you don't care, then that's who you are I guess. Good luck with that.

    Yes, I'm judging you.

    You can judge me all you want, all i will ever do is pity you. How do you even make it through a day, when this silly app triggers you to such an extent? Your kind is insufferable, the only positive thing about people like you is, that you helped Trump get elected.

    KKthxbye

    Trump is a bigot, an embarrassment, a fascist, a tragedy. I know few of us want this forum to go all political but Patrick if you keep randomly praising this monster some of us are going to feel obligated to correct you.

  • @Patric_Bateman said:

    @decibelle said:

    @Nkersov said:

    @decibelle said:
    I want to make music, not be reminded yet again that men have knobs and think about poking them at things all day and night.

    I'm surprised that you would make such a generalisation. In the time I've been here, I've never read any comment from a male (or female) contributor that was genitalia based. Sure, all adults think about sex, but most of us have lots of other things going on in our lives, too. :)

    @Nkersov This app's knob references aren't at all new to me, just old and tired and tiresome, and I especially don't need them in my audio apps. I mean, why,??

    The people who bother me with their poking knob references in general are (mostly) located in places other than here. It's just a strategy that seems only fun for those on the dishing-out end, it gets old very quickly, and I can be tired of it no matter where it comes from, you know?

    I just wish I encountered examples of rape culture a little less frequently, sigh. It's nothing to do with you or this forum, more about the percentage of my social experience interacting in general. :neutral:

    That you would even conflate the harmless jokes of these apps with actual rape culture is absolutely disgusting. Nothing is too low for you to get your way. You've stated, that you have been more often sexually assaulted than you could count, that leaves only three possibilities:

    A: You live in a muslim country with shariah law, in this case, my condolences.
    B: You are mentally challenged and really bad with numbers
    C: You live on a liberal campus and are enrolled in gender studies and social justice, and you're being totally brainwashed.

    Wow, really? I'm more offended by your comments than the app.

  • @Peteclag said:

    @Patric_Bateman said:

    @decibelle said:

    @Patric_Bateman said:

    @decibelle said:

    @Patric_Bateman said:
    It's a brilliant marketing move. "Sax sells" never forget. People will be talking about this stupid but funny knob for quite some time.

    Of course it's juvenile. That's what makes it funny.

    I'm glad you've never been sexually assaulted.

    As one who has, more times than I can count, I can assure you, this ... offensive waste of cpu is most assuredly gravely serious. I don't laugh at sexual assault. I'm sorry you do.

    In this app, consent was not sought, nor was it given. That's the difference between "sex" and "assault".

    Funny. No.

    Obviously some bad stuff happened in your life, and i'm sorry for that. You should learn though, to not be offended at everything. Like @dabusgo said, you only give it power over you. Most people will see it for what it is, a juvenile, stupid, funny joke. Yes, it is funny. Saxophone music is a cliché, just search your itunes client for "sensual sax" and look at the results.

    People like to laugh. It actually makes the world a better place.

    Instead of informing me what you think I need to learn, perhaps you might benefit from taking your own advice and stop to figure out why you think your few yuks are so very much more important than other people's hurts.

    Oh hell your thinking is just way too broken for me to explain, if you don't care, then that's who you are I guess. Good luck with that.

    Yes, I'm judging you.

    You can judge me all you want, all i will ever do is pity you. How do you even make it through a day, when this silly app triggers you to such an extent? Your kind is insufferable, the only positive thing about people like you is, that you helped Trump get elected.

    KKthxbye

    Trump is a bigot, an embarrassment, a fascist, a tragedy. I know few of us want this forum to go all political but Patrick if you keep randomly praising this monster some of us are going to feel obligated to correct you.

    It is all connected. A lot of people think Trump is awesome. They are sick and tired of political correctness. People being triggered by juvenile jokes in a saxophone app got Trump elected. Because WE think, that YOU are the embarrassment. Something went very wrong, and Trump is the necessary result. So keep parroting your leftist agenda, will come very handy in 2018 and 2020.

  • @decibelle said:

    @AlexB said:

    db909 said:
    @AlexB The app says "don't abuse the sex knob", sex knob is reverb and it's true you shouldn't abuse it, you can muddy up your mix. It also says "it's getting hot in here" which may or may not be true.

    Ok so the app makes a couple of soft jokes based on sex.
    From one side I think probably the dev could have avoided them,not because they talk about sex but because they are not especially funny. In no case we could call this as supporting sexual assaults but more on the range of unnecessary jokes. I am personally someone who is surprised that porn movies are called adult movies and any of Arnold Schwarzenegger films ( came Comando to my mind) I could watch them when I was a kid. Might be radical but I still believe that it's better to show naked bodies making sex than people killing each other. Sex by no means is a nasty word in my mind but probably unnecessary for a Saxophone app.

    The most important to me, does it sound really good?

    @Nkersov said:

    @AlexB said:
    In no case we could call this as supporting sexual assaults but more on the range of unnecessary jokes.

    >

    Exactly. Calling it a Sex Knob is funny for all of five seconds, and probably clever marketing, 'cause it generates publicity and can be switch very quickly in 1.1. But there is no way these peeps are supporting assault!

    I appreciate that few people ever intend to support sexual assault. Having said that, it is easy to do so unintentionally. And intentionally or not, support does support.

    So to me, specifically making light of "ABUSING THE SEX KNOB" as a "joke", as if sexual assault can EVER be funny, doesn't that explicitly reference sexual assault as something to be joked about? Seriously, how else can I interpret that?

    For me, I sexual assault fits in my "Serious as a heart attack every single time" category.

    To me this app sounds awesome. Unfortunately it is also an awesome sounding app which jokes about sexual assault. The idea of supporting this by buying it, which I unwittingly did because the warning is inaccurate, that makes me literally want to puke.

    So how it sounds, or supporting sexual assault, which is more important to you?

    For yourself, you choose.

    Also take note, the app devs rated this app as appropriate for nine year old children. Ugh.

    May I ask you: are you a woman? There are many ways to interprete the don't abuse the sex knob out of a sexual assault ( actually it didnt came to my mind at all). But probably you didnt get it because you have not been a male teenager.

  • @studioAB said:

    @Patric_Bateman said:

    @decibelle said:

    @Nkersov said:

    @decibelle said:
    I want to make music, not be reminded yet again that men have knobs and think about poking them at things all day and night.

    I'm surprised that you would make such a generalisation. In the time I've been here, I've never read any comment from a male (or female) contributor that was genitalia based. Sure, all adults think about sex, but most of us have lots of other things going on in our lives, too. :)

    @Nkersov This app's knob references aren't at all new to me, just old and tired and tiresome, and I especially don't need them in my audio apps. I mean, why,??

    The people who bother me with their poking knob references in general are (mostly) located in places other than here. It's just a strategy that seems only fun for those on the dishing-out end, it gets old very quickly, and I can be tired of it no matter where it comes from, you know?

    I just wish I encountered examples of rape culture a little less frequently, sigh. It's nothing to do with you or this forum, more about the percentage of my social experience interacting in general. :neutral:

    That you would even conflate the harmless jokes of these apps with actual rape culture is absolutely disgusting. Nothing is too low for you to get your way. You've stated, that you have been more often sexually assaulted than you could count, that leaves only three possibilities:

    A: You live in a muslim country with shariah law, in this case, my condolences.
    B: You are mentally challenged and really bad with numbers
    C: You live on a liberal campus and are enrolled in gender studies and social justice, and you're being totally brainwashed.

    Wow, really? I'm more offended by your comments than the app.

    Ugh, so sorry for you, snowflake. Maybe you should start a thread called "Safe space"?

  • Actually the phrase is more akin to masterbation and or over use of ones own knob than implying any form of abuse to another.

  • @Patric_Bateman said:

    @kobamoto said:
    my friend you're speaking in catch phrases and you still haven't answered my question, what did you call political correctness before the phrase was coined?

    how are you being bullied, was she using superior strength and influence to intimidate you? C'mon man you started with trump being a positive person and are ending with yourself being bullied. I'm not sure you're aware of what the definition of being bullied is, or what the definition of positivity is.

    The expression is far older than me, and pretty self explanatory. It is a form of bullying, to pressure others to do what YOU want, just because YOU feel triggered or offended.

    And yea, i am damn happy that a politically totally incorrect gigantic troll named Donald Trump became the most powerful man on earth.

    If you want to learn about it, might as well learn from the master:

    now tell the truth, who do you think sounds more offended you and milo or me?
    I'm trying to be open to you but the credibility of your comments makes it challenging.
    Now that we know how everyone feels why don't we hug it out man,... don't you want a hug patric, c'mon man lets hug it out. Think about it we might disagree about the pr surrounding this one app but think of all of the apps we don't disagree about, it's got to be in the hundreds at least............. lets hug it out man, patty.... patty tatty watty.... lets hug it ouuuuuut :) I'll go first , , Huuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuug!

  • @Fruitbat1919 said:
    Actually the phrase is more akin to masterbation and or over use of ones own knob than implying any form of abuse to another.

    Well we don't know whose knob is being referred to.

  • I can see uncle Sebastian closing this thread down.

  • @kobamoto said:

    @Patric_Bateman said:

    @kobamoto said:
    my friend you're speaking in catch phrases and you still haven't answered my question, what did you call political correctness before the phrase was coined?

    how are you being bullied, was she using superior strength and influence to intimidate you? C'mon man you started with trump being a positive person and are ending with yourself being bullied. I'm not sure you're aware of what the definition of being bullied is, or what the definition of positivity is.

    The expression is far older than me, and pretty self explanatory. It is a form of bullying, to pressure others to do what YOU want, just because YOU feel triggered or offended.

    And yea, i am damn happy that a politically totally incorrect gigantic troll named Donald Trump became the most powerful man on earth.

    If you want to learn about it, might as well learn from the master:

    now tell the truth, who do you think sounds more offended you and milo or me?
    I'm trying to be open to you but the credibility of your comments makes it challenging.
    Now that we know how everyone feels why don't we hug it out man,... don't you want a hug patric, c'mon man lets hug it out. Think about it we might disagree about the pr surrounding this one app but think of all of the apps we don't disagree about, it's got to be in the hundreds at least............. lets hug it out man, patty.... patty tatty watty.... lets hug it ouuuuuut :) I'll go first , , Huuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuug!

    Well, who could say no to that. <3

    Let's break the cycle of being offended. Check out more of Milo´s stuff though. He is awesome ;)

  • @AlexB said:
    @decibelle said:

    @AlexB said:

    db909 said:
    @AlexB The app says "don't abuse the sex knob", sex knob is reverb and it's true you shouldn't abuse it, you can muddy up your mix. It also says "it's getting hot in here" which may or may not be true.

    Ok so the app makes a couple of soft jokes based on sex.
    From one side I think probably the dev could have avoided them,not because they talk about sex but because they are not especially funny. In no case we could call this as supporting sexual assaults but more on the range of unnecessary jokes. I am personally someone who is surprised that porn movies are called adult movies and any of Arnold Schwarzenegger films ( came Comando to my mind) I could watch them when I was a kid. Might be radical but I still believe that it's better to show naked bodies making sex than people killing each other. Sex by no means is a nasty word in my mind but probably unnecessary for a Saxophone app.

    The most important to me, does it sound really good?

    @Nkersov said:

    @AlexB said:
    In no case we could call this as supporting sexual assaults but more on the range of unnecessary jokes.

    >

    Exactly. Calling it a Sex Knob is funny for all of five seconds, and probably clever marketing, 'cause it generates publicity and can be switch very quickly in 1.1. But there is no way these peeps are supporting assault!

    I appreciate that few people ever intend to support sexual assault. Having said that, it is easy to do so unintentionally. And intentionally or not, support does support.

    So to me, specifically making light of "ABUSING THE SEX KNOB" as a "joke", as if sexual assault can EVER be funny, doesn't that explicitly reference sexual assault as something to be joked about? Seriously, how else can I interpret that?

    For me, I sexual assault fits in my "Serious as a heart attack every single time" category.

    To me this app sounds awesome. Unfortunately it is also an awesome sounding app which jokes about sexual assault. The idea of supporting this by buying it, which I unwittingly did because the warning is inaccurate, that makes me literally want to puke.

    So how it sounds, or supporting sexual assault, which is more important to you?

    For yourself, you choose.

    Also take note, the app devs rated this app as appropriate for nine year old children. Ugh.

    May I ask you: are you a woman? There are many ways to interprete the don't abuse the sex knob out of a sexual assault ( actually it didnt came to my mind at all). But probably you didnt get it because you have not been a male teenager.

    So, just because it's possible to interpret this phrase as referencing adolescent boys, are people who are or have been them the only intended customers? Because the app page explicitly offers it to 9 year old children and older. There is no gender restriction, except in the part of app design unrelated to its advertised function (saxophone simulator).

    So if I am or am not, that relates how?

  • @Patric_Bateman said:

    @Peteclag said:

    @Patric_Bateman said:

    @decibelle said:

    @Patric_Bateman said:

    @decibelle said:

    @Patric_Bateman said:
    It's a brilliant marketing move. "Sax sells" never forget. People will be talking about this stupid but funny knob for quite some time.

    Of course it's juvenile. That's what makes it funny.

    I'm glad you've never been sexually assaulted.

    As one who has, more times than I can count, I can assure you, this ... offensive waste of cpu is most assuredly gravely serious. I don't laugh at sexual assault. I'm sorry you do.

    In this app, consent was not sought, nor was it given. That's the difference between "sex" and "assault".

    Funny. No.

    Obviously some bad stuff happened in your life, and i'm sorry for that. You should learn though, to not be offended at everything. Like @dabusgo said, you only give it power over you. Most people will see it for what it is, a juvenile, stupid, funny joke. Yes, it is funny. Saxophone music is a cliché, just search your itunes client for "sensual sax" and look at the results.

    People like to laugh. It actually makes the world a better place.

    Instead of informing me what you think I need to learn, perhaps you might benefit from taking your own advice and stop to figure out why you think your few yuks are so very much more important than other people's hurts.

    Oh hell your thinking is just way too broken for me to explain, if you don't care, then that's who you are I guess. Good luck with that.

    Yes, I'm judging you.

    You can judge me all you want, all i will ever do is pity you. How do you even make it through a day, when this silly app triggers you to such an extent? Your kind is insufferable, the only positive thing about people like you is, that you helped Trump get elected.

    KKthxbye

    Trump is a bigot, an embarrassment, a fascist, a tragedy. I know few of us want this forum to go all political but Patrick if you keep randomly praising this monster some of us are going to feel obligated to correct you.

    It is all connected. A lot of people think Trump is awesome. They are sick and tired of political correctness. People being triggered by juvenile jokes in a saxophone app got Trump elected. Because WE think, that YOU are the embarrassment. Something went very wrong, and Trump is the necessary result. So keep parroting your leftist agenda, will come very handy in 2018 and 2020.

    You've been duped Pat. You don't like the art of Lena Dunham. I get it, neither do I. Personally I really enjoy off colour stand up comedy. But this has no bearing on my voting behavior because such pastimes are not under threat> @Patric_Bateman said:

    @Peteclag said:

    @Patric_Bateman said:

    @decibelle said:

    @Patric_Bateman said:

    @decibelle said:

    @Patric_Bateman said:
    It's a brilliant marketing move. "Sax sells" never forget. People will be talking about this stupid but funny knob for quite some time.

    Of course it's juvenile. That's what makes it funny.

    I'm glad you've never been sexually assaulted.

    As one who has, more times than I can count, I can assure you, this ... offensive waste of cpu is most assuredly gravely serious. I don't laugh at sexual assault. I'm sorry you do.

    In this app, consent was not sought, nor was it given. That's the difference between "sex" and "assault".

    Funny. No.

    Obviously some bad stuff happened in your life, and i'm sorry for that. You should learn though, to not be offended at everything. Like @dabusgo said, you only give it power over you. Most people will see it for what it is, a juvenile, stupid, funny joke. Yes, it is funny. Saxophone music is a cliché, just search your itunes client for "sensual sax" and look at the results.

    People like to laugh. It actually makes the world a better place.

    Instead of informing me what you think I need to learn, perhaps you might benefit from taking your own advice and stop to figure out why you think your few yuks are so very much more important than other people's hurts.

    Oh hell your thinking is just way too broken for me to explain, if you don't care, then that's who you are I guess. Good luck with that.

    Yes, I'm judging you.

    You can judge me all you want, all i will ever do is pity you. How do you even make it through a day, when this silly app triggers you to such an extent? Your kind is insufferable, the only positive thing about people like you is, that you helped Trump get elected.

    KKthxbye

    Trump is a bigot, an embarrassment, a fascist, a tragedy. I know few of us want this forum to go all political but Patrick if you keep randomly praising this monster some of us are going to feel obligated to correct you.

    It is all connected. A lot of people think Trump is awesome. They are sick and tired of political correctness. People being triggered by juvenile jokes in a saxophone app got Trump elected. Because WE think, that YOU are the embarrassment. Something went very wrong, and Trump is the necessary result. So keep parroting your leftist agenda, will come very handy in 2018 and 2020.

    No, respectfuly Trump is not remotely connected to the sensual sax app. And how do you think Trump is going to champion your cultural preferences?! Is he going to arrest Lena Dunham? Add Rodney Dangerfield to his cabinet? Mature adults don't worry about political correctness when they cast their vote. They know PC hysteria is just a useful means to distract people from looking too closely at Trumps/alt right true agenda

  • @studioAB said:

    @Fruitbat1919 said:
    Actually the phrase is more akin to masterbation and or over use of ones own knob than implying any form of abuse to another.

    Well we don't know whose knob is being referred to.

    actually as it is warning you about touching something that is on the app you just bought, it is fair to assume that it refers to that which is there in front of you with writing on it.

    Anything assumed beyond just childish humour here is as recognised by someone else here, most likely projection.

    No doubt this will go on for an age here, but I'm out. There really is more pressing problems in the world than an app that makes school kid jokes. I personally find it more demeaning to the serious nature of abuse, that someone could even contemplate this app in any discussion thereof.

    That aside, I would be amiss in my nature as a caring human being if I did not offer to signpost anyone here who does find that this subject has caused them issues they are struggling to deal with. So I offer to find suitable help line numbers for anyone affected if they wish me to.

  • edited January 2017

    I b> @decibelle said:

    @AlexB said:
    @decibelle said:

    @AlexB said:

    db909 said:
    @AlexB The app says "don't abuse the sex knob", sex knob is reverb and it's true you shouldn't abuse it, you can muddy up your mix. It also says "it's getting hot in here" which may or may not be true.

    Ok so the app makes a couple of soft jokes based on sex.
    From one side I think probably the dev could have avoided them,not because they talk about sex but because they are not especially funny. In no case we could call this as supporting sexual assaults but more on the range of unnecessary jokes. I am personally someone who is surprised that porn movies are called adult movies and any of Arnold Schwarzenegger films ( came Comando to my mind) I could watch them when I was a kid. Might be radical but I still believe that it's better to show naked bodies making sex than people killing each other. Sex by no means is a nasty word in my mind but probably unnecessary for a Saxophone app.

    The most important to me, does it sound really good?

    @Nkersov said:

    @AlexB said:
    In no case we could call this as supporting sexual assaults but more on the range of unnecessary jokes.

    >

    Exactly. Calling it a Sex Knob is funny for all of five seconds, and probably clever marketing, 'cause it generates publicity and can be switch very quickly in 1.1. But there is no way these peeps are supporting assault!

    I appreciate that few people ever intend to support sexual assault. Having said that, it is easy to do so unintentionally. And intentionally or not, support does support.

    So to me, specifically making light of "ABUSING THE SEX KNOB" as a "joke", as if sexual assault can EVER be funny, doesn't that explicitly reference sexual assault as something to be joked about? Seriously, how else can I interpret that?

    For me, I sexual assault fits in my "Serious as a heart attack every single time" category.

    To me this app sounds awesome. Unfortunately it is also an awesome sounding app which jokes about sexual assault. The idea of supporting this by buying it, which I unwittingly did because the warning is inaccurate, that makes me literally want to puke.

    So how it sounds, or supporting sexual assault, which is more important to you?

    For yourself, you choose.

    Also take note, the app devs rated this app as appropriate for nine year old children. Ugh.

    May I ask you: are you a woman? There are many ways to interprete the don't abuse the sex knob out of a sexual assault ( actually it didnt came to my mind at all). But probably you didnt get it because you have not been a male teenager.

    So, just because it's possible to interpret this phrase as referencing adolescent boys, are people who are or have been them the only intended customers? Because the app page explicitly offers it to 9 year old children and older. There is no gender restriction, except in the part of app design unrelated to its advertised function (saxophone simulator).

    So if I am or am not, that relates how?

    Good, now you realized there other ways of interpreting this as you thought, then moving one step further: you stated that people who buy it are supporters to sexual assaults. I would expect now apologies from your side. The fact that you interprete it as you do is no others fault so I expect you will be sensitive to my comment.
    The fact that there might be (bad) jokes not intended for the whole audience doesnt mean the audience might want to buy this app for other reasons ( at the end was this not a music app?)

    Let me remind you that Oscar Wilde went to prison as a sexual offender for the simple fact of being homosexual. He said once :
    "There is no such thing as a moral or an immoral book.
    Books are well written, or badly written. That is all." .

    Unfortunately, the rancid conservative victorian society did not end in the XIX century but still being present in these days.

  • I think he's funny, but we don't agree on much that I've seen. Then again there is so much more to every individual than these criteria we create for ourselves...... . > @Patric_Bateman said:

    @kobamoto said:

    @Patric_Bateman said:

    @kobamoto said:
    my friend you're speaking in catch phrases and you still haven't answered my question, what did you call political correctness before the phrase was coined?

    how are you being bullied, was she using superior strength and influence to intimidate you? C'mon man you started with trump being a positive person and are ending with yourself being bullied. I'm not sure you're aware of what the definition of being bullied is, or what the definition of positivity is.

    The expression is far older than me, and pretty self explanatory. It is a form of bullying, to pressure others to do what YOU want, just because YOU feel triggered or offended.

    And yea, i am damn happy that a politically totally incorrect gigantic troll named Donald Trump became the most powerful man on earth.

    If you want to learn about it, might as well learn from the master:

    now tell the truth, who do you think sounds more offended you and milo or me?
    I'm trying to be open to you but the credibility of your comments makes it challenging.
    Now that we know how everyone feels why don't we hug it out man,... don't you want a hug patric, c'mon man lets hug it out. Think about it we might disagree about the pr surrounding this one app but think of all of the apps we don't disagree about, it's got to be in the hundreds at least............. lets hug it out man, patty.... patty tatty watty.... lets hug it ouuuuuut :) I'll go first , , Huuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuug!

    Well, who could say no to that. <3

    Let's break the cycle of being offended. Check out more of Milo´s stuff though. He is awesome ;)

    I think he's funny, but we don't agree on much that I've seen. Then again there is so much more to every individual than these criteria/constructs we create for ourselves...... . crazy as it sounds , we can disagree about these things and still be brothers of the tablet lol (human race). One of these days you're going to have to tell me how you can be against sharia law while simultaneously being against safe spaces, but until then we'll have to

  • @Peteclag said:

    @Patric_Bateman said:

    @Peteclag said:

    @Patric_Bateman said:

    @decibelle said:

    @Patric_Bateman said:

    @decibelle said:

    @Patric_Bateman said:
    It's a brilliant marketing move. "Sax sells" never forget. People will be talking about this stupid but funny knob for quite some time.

    Of course it's juvenile. That's what makes it funny.

    I'm glad you've never been sexually assaulted.

    As one who has, more times than I can count, I can assure you, this ... offensive waste of cpu is most assuredly gravely serious. I don't laugh at sexual assault. I'm sorry you do.

    In this app, consent was not sought, nor was it given. That's the difference between "sex" and "assault".

    Funny. No.

    Obviously some bad stuff happened in your life, and i'm sorry for that. You should learn though, to not be offended at everything. Like @dabusgo said, you only give it power over you. Most people will see it for what it is, a juvenile, stupid, funny joke. Yes, it is funny. Saxophone music is a cliché, just search your itunes client for "sensual sax" and look at the results.

    People like to laugh. It actually makes the world a better place.

    Instead of informing me what you think I need to learn, perhaps you might benefit from taking your own advice and stop to figure out why you think your few yuks are so very much more important than other people's hurts.

    Oh hell your thinking is just way too broken for me to explain, if you don't care, then that's who you are I guess. Good luck with that.

    Yes, I'm judging you.

    You can judge me all you want, all i will ever do is pity you. How do you even make it through a day, when this silly app triggers you to such an extent? Your kind is insufferable, the only positive thing about people like you is, that you helped Trump get elected.

    KKthxbye

    Trump is a bigot, an embarrassment, a fascist, a tragedy. I know few of us want this forum to go all political but Patrick if you keep randomly praising this monster some of us are going to feel obligated to correct you.

    It is all connected. A lot of people think Trump is awesome. They are sick and tired of political correctness. People being triggered by juvenile jokes in a saxophone app got Trump elected. Because WE think, that YOU are the embarrassment. Something went very wrong, and Trump is the necessary result. So keep parroting your leftist agenda, will come very handy in 2018 and 2020.

    You've been duped Pat. You don't like the art of Lena Dunham. I get it, neither do I. Personally I really enjoy off colour stand up comedy. But this has no bearing on my voting behavior because such pastimes are not under threat> @Patric_Bateman said:

    @Peteclag said:

    @Patric_Bateman said:

    @decibelle said:

    @Patric_Bateman said:

    @decibelle said:

    @Patric_Bateman said:
    It's a brilliant marketing move. "Sax sells" never forget. People will be talking about this stupid but funny knob for quite some time.

    Of course it's juvenile. That's what makes it funny.

    I'm glad you've never been sexually assaulted.

    As one who has, more times than I can count, I can assure you, this ... offensive waste of cpu is most assuredly gravely serious. I don't laugh at sexual assault. I'm sorry you do.

    In this app, consent was not sought, nor was it given. That's the difference between "sex" and "assault".

    Funny. No.

    Obviously some bad stuff happened in your life, and i'm sorry for that. You should learn though, to not be offended at everything. Like @dabusgo said, you only give it power over you. Most people will see it for what it is, a juvenile, stupid, funny joke. Yes, it is funny. Saxophone music is a cliché, just search your itunes client for "sensual sax" and look at the results.

    People like to laugh. It actually makes the world a better place.

    Instead of informing me what you think I need to learn, perhaps you might benefit from taking your own advice and stop to figure out why you think your few yuks are so very much more important than other people's hurts.

    Oh hell your thinking is just way too broken for me to explain, if you don't care, then that's who you are I guess. Good luck with that.

    Yes, I'm judging you.

    You can judge me all you want, all i will ever do is pity you. How do you even make it through a day, when this silly app triggers you to such an extent? Your kind is insufferable, the only positive thing about people like you is, that you helped Trump get elected.

    KKthxbye

    Trump is a bigot, an embarrassment, a fascist, a tragedy. I know few of us want this forum to go all political but Patrick if you keep randomly praising this monster some of us are going to feel obligated to correct you.

    It is all connected. A lot of people think Trump is awesome. They are sick and tired of political correctness. People being triggered by juvenile jokes in a saxophone app got Trump elected. Because WE think, that YOU are the embarrassment. Something went very wrong, and Trump is the necessary result. So keep parroting your leftist agenda, will come very handy in 2018 and 2020.

    No, respectfuly Trump is not remotely connected to the sensual sax app. And how do you think Trump is going to champion your cultural preferences?! Is he going to arrest Lena Dunham? Add Rodney Dangerfield to his cabinet? Mature adults don't worry about political correctness when they cast their vote. They know PC hysteria is just a useful means to distract people from looking too closely at Trumps/alt right true agenda

    Well, we can agree on Lena Dunham that's for sure. I wonder how many votes Hillary lost just for campaigning with that...thing. Your political predisposition doesn't let you see the correlation between PC-Culture and Trumps success. And it is not just a cultural thing, it has real ramifications. Like suddenly it has become "racist" to secure a border between two countries. If you think that Trump is a fascist, you're the one that's being duped. He is an american patriot, he is 100% behind the constitution, especially the second amendment. Hint: There was never a tyrant or fascist in history, that wanted the population to be armed.

  • edited January 2017

    muslim ban does not equate to being a 100% behind the constitution and
    birtherism does not equate to being an american patriot...... I know you already know this.

    there was also never a tyrant in history that didn't divide people, or not place the value of arms over the value of unity.

  • what I don't know is if I'm going to be able to make some funky, cheesy, porno music with this app but I have high hopes

  • @Patric_Bateman said:

    @Peteclag said:

    @Patric_Bateman said:

    @Peteclag said:

    @Patric_Bateman said:

    @decibelle said:

    @Patric_Bateman said:

    @decibelle said:

    @Patric_Bateman said:
    It's a brilliant marketing move. "Sax sells" never forget. People will be talking about this stupid but funny knob for quite some time.

    Of course it's juvenile. That's what makes it funny.

    I'm glad you've never been sexually assaulted.

    As one who has, more times than I can count, I can assure you, this ... offensive waste of cpu is most assuredly gravely serious. I don't laugh at sexual assault. I'm sorry you do.

    In this app, consent was not sought, nor was it given. That's the difference between "sex" and "assault".

    Funny. No.

    Obviously some bad stuff happened in your life, and i'm sorry for that. You should learn though, to not be offended at everything. Like @dabusgo said, you only give it power over you. Most people will see it for what it is, a juvenile, stupid, funny joke. Yes, it is funny. Saxophone music is a cliché, just search your itunes client for "sensual sax" and look at the results.

    People like to laugh. It actually makes the world a better place.

    Instead of informing me what you think I need to learn, perhaps you might benefit from taking your own advice and stop to figure out why you think your few yuks are so very much more important than other people's hurts.

    Oh hell your thinking is just way too broken for me to explain, if you don't care, then that's who you are I guess. Good luck with that.

    Yes, I'm judging you.

    You can judge me all you want, all i will ever do is pity you. How do you even make it through a day, when this silly app triggers you to such an extent? Your kind is insufferable, the only positive thing about people like you is, that you helped Trump get elected.

    KKthxbye

    Trump is a bigot, an embarrassment, a fascist, a tragedy. I know few of us want this forum to go all political but Patrick if you keep randomly praising this monster some of us are going to feel obligated to correct you.

    It is all connected. A lot of people think Trump is awesome. They are sick and tired of political correctness. People being triggered by juvenile jokes in a saxophone app got Trump elected. Because WE think, that YOU are the embarrassment. Something went very wrong, and Trump is the necessary result. So keep parroting your leftist agenda, will come very handy in 2018 and 2020.

    You've been duped Pat. You don't like the art of Lena Dunham. I get it, neither do I. Personally I really enjoy off colour stand up comedy. But this has no bearing on my voting behavior because such pastimes are not under threat> @Patric_Bateman said:

    @Peteclag said:

    @Patric_Bateman said:

    @decibelle said:

    @Patric_Bateman said:

    @decibelle said:

    @Patric_Bateman said:
    It's a brilliant marketing move. "Sax sells" never forget. People will be talking about this stupid but funny knob for quite some time.

    Of course it's juvenile. That's what makes it funny.

    I'm glad you've never been sexually assaulted.

    As one who has, more times than I can count, I can assure you, this ... offensive waste of cpu is most assuredly gravely serious. I don't laugh at sexual assault. I'm sorry you do.

    In this app, consent was not sought, nor was it given. That's the difference between "sex" and "assault".

    Funny. No.

    Obviously some bad stuff happened in your life, and i'm sorry for that. You should learn though, to not be offended at everything. Like @dabusgo said, you only give it power over you. Most people will see it for what it is, a juvenile, stupid, funny joke. Yes, it is funny. Saxophone music is a cliché, just search your itunes client for "sensual sax" and look at the results.

    People like to laugh. It actually makes the world a better place.

    Instead of informing me what you think I need to learn, perhaps you might benefit from taking your own advice and stop to figure out why you think your few yuks are so very much more important than other people's hurts.

    Oh hell your thinking is just way too broken for me to explain, if you don't care, then that's who you are I guess. Good luck with that.

    Yes, I'm judging you.

    You can judge me all you want, all i will ever do is pity you. How do you even make it through a day, when this silly app triggers you to such an extent? Your kind is insufferable, the only positive thing about people like you is, that you helped Trump get elected.

    KKthxbye

    Trump is a bigot, an embarrassment, a fascist, a tragedy. I know few of us want this forum to go all political but Patrick if you keep randomly praising this monster some of us are going to feel obligated to correct you.

    It is all connected. A lot of people think Trump is awesome. They are sick and tired of political correctness. People being triggered by juvenile jokes in a saxophone app got Trump elected. Because WE think, that YOU are the embarrassment. Something went very wrong, and Trump is the necessary result. So keep parroting your leftist agenda, will come very handy in 2018 and 2020.

    No, respectfuly Trump is not remotely connected to the sensual sax app. And how do you think Trump is going to champion your cultural preferences?! Is he going to arrest Lena Dunham? Add Rodney Dangerfield to his cabinet? Mature adults don't worry about political correctness when they cast their vote. They know PC hysteria is just a useful means to distract people from looking too closely at Trumps/alt right true agenda

    Well, we can agree on Lena Dunham that's for sure. I wonder how many votes Hillary lost just for campaigning with that...thing. Your political predisposition doesn't let you see the correlation between PC-Culture and Trumps success. And it is not just a cultural thing, it has real ramifications. Like suddenly it has become "racist" to secure a border between two countries. If you think that Trump is a fascist, you're the one that's being duped. He is an american patriot, he is 100% behind the constitution, especially the second amendment. Hint: There was never a tyrant or fascist in history, that wanted the population to be armed.

    There are so many reasons to object to Donald but I ask you to consider just one: his support amongst the white supremacist / KKK community. You could argue that he didn't cultivate it (I think he did but its debatable) but you cant deny that he repeatedly refused to disown it. (until post election once he had reaped the benefits) That's unforgivable. I mean if the KKK or David Duke said they really supported my world view I would immediately call them a bunch of repulsive evil assclowns. Donald didnt call David Duke an assclown. He chose to lie and pretend not to know who he was. A man who doesn't have the balls to call out the KKK doesn't have what it takes to govern your great country.

  • @kobamoto said:
    muslim ban does not equate to being a 100% behind the constitution and
    birtherism does not equate to being an american patriot...... I know you already know this.

    Well, i don't see Islam as a religion but a fascist ideology, and so do people in his cabinet like 4-star general Michael Flynn his National Security Advisor. And "Birtherism" is absolutely patriotic, you have to make sure that the president is actually eligible for office. BTW turns out, that Obamas birth certificate is a forgery:

  • @AlexB said:
    I b> @decibelle said:

    @AlexB said:
    @decibelle said:

    @AlexB said:

    db909 said:
    @AlexB The app says "don't abuse the sex knob", sex knob is reverb and it's true you shouldn't abuse it, you can muddy up your mix. It also says "it's getting hot in here" which may or may not be true.

    Ok so the app makes a couple of soft jokes based on sex.
    From one side I think probably the dev could have avoided them,not because they talk about sex but because they are not especially funny. In no case we could call this as supporting sexual assaults but more on the range of unnecessary jokes. I am personally someone who is surprised that porn movies are called adult movies and any of Arnold Schwarzenegger films ( came Comando to my mind) I could watch them when I was a kid. Might be radical but I still believe that it's better to show naked bodies making sex than people killing each other. Sex by no means is a nasty word in my mind but probably unnecessary for a Saxophone app.

    The most important to me, does it sound really good?

    @Nkersov said:

    @AlexB said:
    In no case we could call this as supporting sexual assaults but more on the range of unnecessary jokes.

    >

    Exactly. Calling it a Sex Knob is funny for all of five seconds, and probably clever marketing, 'cause it generates publicity and can be switch very quickly in 1.1. But there is no way these peeps are supporting assault!

    I appreciate that few people ever intend to support sexual assault. Having said that, it is easy to do so unintentionally. And intentionally or not, support does support.

    So to me, specifically making light of "ABUSING THE SEX KNOB" as a "joke", as if sexual assault can EVER be funny, doesn't that explicitly reference sexual assault as something to be joked about? Seriously, how else can I interpret that?

    For me, I sexual assault fits in my "Serious as a heart attack every single time" category.

    To me this app sounds awesome. Unfortunately it is also an awesome sounding app which jokes about sexual assault. The idea of supporting this by buying it, which I unwittingly did because the warning is inaccurate, that makes me literally want to puke.

    So how it sounds, or supporting sexual assault, which is more important to you?

    For yourself, you choose.

    Also take note, the app devs rated this app as appropriate for nine year old children. Ugh.

    May I ask you: are you a woman? There are many ways to interprete the don't abuse the sex knob out of a sexual assault ( actually it didnt came to my mind at all). But probably you didnt get it because you have not been a male teenager.

    So, just because it's possible to interpret this phrase as referencing adolescent boys, are people who are or have been them the only intended customers? Because the app page explicitly offers it to 9 year old children and older. There is no gender restriction, except in the part of app design unrelated to its advertised function (saxophone simulator).

    So if I am or am not, that relates how?

    Good, now you realized there other ways of interpreting this as you thought, then moving one step further: you stated that people who buy it are supporters to sexual assaults. I would expect now apologies from your side. The fact that you interprete it as you do is no others fault so I expect you will be sensitive to my comment.
    The fact that there might be (bad) jokes not intended for the whole audience doesnt mean the audience might want to buy this app for other reasons.

    Let me remind you that Oscar Wilde went to prison as a sexual offender for the simple fact of being homosexual. He said once :
    "There is no such thing as a moral or an immoral book.
    Books are well written, or badly written. That is all." .

    Unfortunately, the rancid conservative victorian society did not end in the XIX century but still being present in these days.

    Ok, let me see if I understand you:

    You wanr ME to be sensitive to YOUR perception of the app
    YOU consider MY perception of the app ... WRONG and MY FAULT
    You want ME to apologise to YOU for ... insensitivity?
    Oscar Wilde was um ... a Victorian homosexual who said things and was imprisoned

    Do I understand you correctly?

  • @Peteclag said:

    @Patric_Bateman said:

    @Peteclag said:

    @Patric_Bateman said:

    @Peteclag said:

    @Patric_Bateman said:

    @decibelle said:

    @Patric_Bateman said:

    @decibelle said:

    @Patric_Bateman said:
    It's a brilliant marketing move. "Sax sells" never forget. People will be talking about this stupid but funny knob for quite some time.

    Of course it's juvenile. That's what makes it funny.

    I'm glad you've never been sexually assaulted.

    As one who has, more times than I can count, I can assure you, this ... offensive waste of cpu is most assuredly gravely serious. I don't laugh at sexual assault. I'm sorry you do.

    In this app, consent was not sought, nor was it given. That's the difference between "sex" and "assault".

    Funny. No.

    Obviously some bad stuff happened in your life, and i'm sorry for that. You should learn though, to not be offended at everything. Like @dabusgo said, you only give it power over you. Most people will see it for what it is, a juvenile, stupid, funny joke. Yes, it is funny. Saxophone music is a cliché, just search your itunes client for "sensual sax" and look at the results.

    People like to laugh. It actually makes the world a better place.

    Instead of informing me what you think I need to learn, perhaps you might benefit from taking your own advice and stop to figure out why you think your few yuks are so very much more important than other people's hurts.

    Oh hell your thinking is just way too broken for me to explain, if you don't care, then that's who you are I guess. Good luck with that.

    Yes, I'm judging you.

    You can judge me all you want, all i will ever do is pity you. How do you even make it through a day, when this silly app triggers you to such an extent? Your kind is insufferable, the only positive thing about people like you is, that you helped Trump get elected.

    KKthxbye

    Trump is a bigot, an embarrassment, a fascist, a tragedy. I know few of us want this forum to go all political but Patrick if you keep randomly praising this monster some of us are going to feel obligated to correct you.

    It is all connected. A lot of people think Trump is awesome. They are sick and tired of political correctness. People being triggered by juvenile jokes in a saxophone app got Trump elected. Because WE think, that YOU are the embarrassment. Something went very wrong, and Trump is the necessary result. So keep parroting your leftist agenda, will come very handy in 2018 and 2020.

    You've been duped Pat. You don't like the art of Lena Dunham. I get it, neither do I. Personally I really enjoy off colour stand up comedy. But this has no bearing on my voting behavior because such pastimes are not under threat> @Patric_Bateman said:

    @Peteclag said:

    @Patric_Bateman said:

    @decibelle said:

    @Patric_Bateman said:

    @decibelle said:

    @Patric_Bateman said:
    It's a brilliant marketing move. "Sax sells" never forget. People will be talking about this stupid but funny knob for quite some time.

    Of course it's juvenile. That's what makes it funny.

    I'm glad you've never been sexually assaulted.

    As one who has, more times than I can count, I can assure you, this ... offensive waste of cpu is most assuredly gravely serious. I don't laugh at sexual assault. I'm sorry you do.

    In this app, consent was not sought, nor was it given. That's the difference between "sex" and "assault".

    Funny. No.

    Obviously some bad stuff happened in your life, and i'm sorry for that. You should learn though, to not be offended at everything. Like @dabusgo said, you only give it power over you. Most people will see it for what it is, a juvenile, stupid, funny joke. Yes, it is funny. Saxophone music is a cliché, just search your itunes client for "sensual sax" and look at the results.

    People like to laugh. It actually makes the world a better place.

    Instead of informing me what you think I need to learn, perhaps you might benefit from taking your own advice and stop to figure out why you think your few yuks are so very much more important than other people's hurts.

    Oh hell your thinking is just way too broken for me to explain, if you don't care, then that's who you are I guess. Good luck with that.

    Yes, I'm judging you.

    You can judge me all you want, all i will ever do is pity you. How do you even make it through a day, when this silly app triggers you to such an extent? Your kind is insufferable, the only positive thing about people like you is, that you helped Trump get elected.

    KKthxbye

    Trump is a bigot, an embarrassment, a fascist, a tragedy. I know few of us want this forum to go all political but Patrick if you keep randomly praising this monster some of us are going to feel obligated to correct you.

    It is all connected. A lot of people think Trump is awesome. They are sick and tired of political correctness. People being triggered by juvenile jokes in a saxophone app got Trump elected. Because WE think, that YOU are the embarrassment. Something went very wrong, and Trump is the necessary result. So keep parroting your leftist agenda, will come very handy in 2018 and 2020.

    No, respectfuly Trump is not remotely connected to the sensual sax app. And how do you think Trump is going to champion your cultural preferences?! Is he going to arrest Lena Dunham? Add Rodney Dangerfield to his cabinet? Mature adults don't worry about political correctness when they cast their vote. They know PC hysteria is just a useful means to distract people from looking too closely at Trumps/alt right true agenda

    Well, we can agree on Lena Dunham that's for sure. I wonder how many votes Hillary lost just for campaigning with that...thing. Your political predisposition doesn't let you see the correlation between PC-Culture and Trumps success. And it is not just a cultural thing, it has real ramifications. Like suddenly it has become "racist" to secure a border between two countries. If you think that Trump is a fascist, you're the one that's being duped. He is an american patriot, he is 100% behind the constitution, especially the second amendment. Hint: There was never a tyrant or fascist in history, that wanted the population to be armed.

    There are so many reasons to object to Donald but I ask you to consider just one: his support amongst the white supremacist / KKK community. You could argue that he didn't cultivate it (I think he did but its debatable) but you cant deny that he repeatedly refused to disown it. (until post election once he had reaped the benefits) That's unforgivable. I mean if the KKK or David Duke said they really supported my world view I would immediately call them a bunch of repulsive evil assclowns. Donald didnt call David Duke an assclown. He chose to lie and pretend not to know who he was. A man who doesn't have the balls to call out the KKK doesn't have what it takes to govern your great country.

    He disavowed them and the so called "alt-right" on many occasions, over and over again. Of all points that is the weakest and laziest argument you could present, and actually proves, that you don't really have one. In the case you described, he was asked a trick question, "do you disavow Duke and other groups" and all he asked was, "what other groups are you talking about". He didn't play the medias game.

  • Can we get a moderator in here to clean up this mud? Enough hate and crying.

  • @decibelle said:

    @AlexB said:
    I b> @decibelle said:

    @AlexB said:
    @decibelle said:

    @AlexB said:

    db909 said:
    @AlexB The app says "don't abuse the sex knob", sex knob is reverb and it's true you shouldn't abuse it, you can muddy up your mix. It also says "it's getting hot in here" which may or may not be true.

    Ok so the app makes a couple of soft jokes based on sex.
    From one side I think probably the dev could have avoided them,not because they talk about sex but because they are not especially funny. In no case we could call this as supporting sexual assaults but more on the range of unnecessary jokes. I am personally someone who is surprised that porn movies are called adult movies and any of Arnold Schwarzenegger films ( came Comando to my mind) I could watch them when I was a kid. Might be radical but I still believe that it's better to show naked bodies making sex than people killing each other. Sex by no means is a nasty word in my mind but probably unnecessary for a Saxophone app.

    The most important to me, does it sound really good?

    @Nkersov said:

    @AlexB said:
    In no case we could call this as supporting sexual assaults but more on the range of unnecessary jokes.

    >

    Exactly. Calling it a Sex Knob is funny for all of five seconds, and probably clever marketing, 'cause it generates publicity and can be switch very quickly in 1.1. But there is no way these peeps are supporting assault!

    I appreciate that few people ever intend to support sexual assault. Having said that, it is easy to do so unintentionally. And intentionally or not, support does support.

    So to me, specifically making light of "ABUSING THE SEX KNOB" as a "joke", as if sexual assault can EVER be funny, doesn't that explicitly reference sexual assault as something to be joked about? Seriously, how else can I interpret that?

    For me, I sexual assault fits in my "Serious as a heart attack every single time" category.

    To me this app sounds awesome. Unfortunately it is also an awesome sounding app which jokes about sexual assault. The idea of supporting this by buying it, which I unwittingly did because the warning is inaccurate, that makes me literally want to puke.

    So how it sounds, or supporting sexual assault, which is more important to you?

    For yourself, you choose.

    Also take note, the app devs rated this app as appropriate for nine year old children. Ugh.

    May I ask you: are you a woman? There are many ways to interprete the don't abuse the sex knob out of a sexual assault ( actually it didnt came to my mind at all). But probably you didnt get it because you have not been a male teenager.

    So, just because it's possible to interpret this phrase as referencing adolescent boys, are people who are or have been them the only intended customers? Because the app page explicitly offers it to 9 year old children and older. There is no gender restriction, except in the part of app design unrelated to its advertised function (saxophone simulator).

    So if I am or am not, that relates how?

    Good, now you realized there other ways of interpreting this as you thought, then moving one step further: you stated that people who buy it are supporters to sexual assaults. I would expect now apologies from your side. The fact that you interprete it as you do is no others fault so I expect you will be sensitive to my comment.
    The fact that there might be (bad) jokes not intended for the whole audience doesnt mean the audience might want to buy this app for other reasons.

    Let me remind you that Oscar Wilde went to prison as a sexual offender for the simple fact of being homosexual. He said once :
    "There is no such thing as a moral or an immoral book.
    Books are well written, or badly written. That is all." .

    Unfortunately, the rancid conservative victorian society did not end in the XIX century but still being present in these days.

    Ok, let me see if I understand you:

    You wanr ME to be sensitive to YOUR perception of the app

    Yep!

    YOU consider MY perception of the app ... WRONG and MY FAULT

    Actually you confirmed that when you first stated there was only one way of interpreting it and later on you admitted There could be others.

    You want ME to apologise to YOU for ... insensitivity?

    Nope, for calling me or anyone who buys the app a supporter of sexual abusers

    Oscar Wilde was um ... a Victorian homosexual who said things and was imprisoned

    Yep, mainly because they thought what he was doing was offensive to them. I believe you might get the link on this conversation and which you role you are taking on this reference

    Do I understand you correctly?

    It doesnt seem so but probably that's something you might better answer by yourself.

  • edited January 2017

    @Fruitbat1919 said:
    There really is more pressing problems in the world than an app that makes school kid jokes. I personally find it more demeaning to the serious nature of abuse, that someone could even contemplate this app in any discussion thereof.

    Exactly. No one here supports sexual abuse. The app makes a schoolboy joke, that's all.

    There are battles to be fought over genuine and serious issues, without the frankly pathetic attempts to manufacture fury against a sax emulator!

  • .

    He disavowed them and the so called "alt-right" on many occasions, over and over again. Of all points that is the weakest and laziest argument you could present, and actually proves, that you don't really have one. In the case you described, he was asked a trick question, "do you disavow Duke and other groups" and all he asked was, "what other groups are you talking about". He didn't play the medias game.

    Oh Patrick. That's sad. Since I posted this you have come out as a supporter of the birther movement. For most people outside of the US the whole Obama is a kenyan born muslim was baffling weird and obviously crude example of racist dog whistling. I sincerely have no intention of suggesting any racist intentions on your behalf. But if you take birthism seriously you've already gone down the infowars rabbit hole and nothing I say is going to bring you back out. That's ok :) But enough with the Trump posts. Donald's not interested in music apps, his creepy weird stubby little fingers rule him out.

  • @decibelle said:

    @AlexB said:

    db909 said:
    @AlexB The app says "don't abuse the sex knob", sex knob is reverb and it's true you shouldn't abuse it, you can muddy up your mix. It also says "it's getting hot in here" which may or may not be true.

    Ok so the app makes a couple of soft jokes based on sex.
    From one side I think probably the dev could have avoided them,not because they talk about sex but because they are not especially funny. In no case we could call this as supporting sexual assaults but more on the range of unnecessary jokes. I am personally someone who is surprised that porn movies are called adult movies and any of Arnold Schwarzenegger films ( came Comando to my mind) I could watch them when I was a kid. Might be radical but I still believe that it's better to show naked bodies making sex than people killing each other. Sex by no means is a nasty word in my mind but probably unnecessary for a Saxophone app.

    The most important to me, does it sound really good?

    @Nkersov said:

    @AlexB said:
    In no case we could call this as supporting sexual assaults but more on the range of unnecessary jokes.

    >

    Exactly. Calling it a Sex Knob is funny for all of five seconds, and probably clever marketing, 'cause it generates publicity and can be switch very quickly in 1.1. But there is no way these peeps are supporting assault!

    I appreciate that few people ever intend to support sexual assault. Having said that, it is easy to do so unintentionally. And intentionally or not, support does support.

    So to me, specifically making light of "ABUSING THE SEX KNOB" as a "joke", as if sexual assault can EVER be funny, doesn't that explicitly reference sexual assault as something to be joked about? Seriously, how else can I interpret that?

    For me, I sexual assault fits in my "Serious as a heart attack every single time" category.

    To me this app sounds awesome. Unfortunately it is also an awesome sounding app which jokes about sexual assault. The idea of supporting this by buying it, which I unwittingly did because the warning is inaccurate, that makes me literally want to puke.

    So how it sounds, or supporting sexual assault, which is more important to you?

    For yourself, you choose.

    Also take note, the app devs rated this app as appropriate for nine year old children. Ugh.

    I haven’t seen that particular message in my Sensual Sax app. I think mine says something like “It’s getting hot in here.” In any case, I see nothing in the app or its marketing that in any way supports or represents sexual assault. “Abusing the sex knob” appears to be a double entendre that suggests one should show restraint and avoid too much self-indulgence. What is too much reverb, delay, and vibrato? Of course it’s tongue in cheek. Abuse is not referring to abusing another person, so assault is not relevant.

    Saxophone is a sound color that evokes ideas of sensuality and sexuality. The instrument is often used precisely to evoke that feeling. Unless one has a problem with sexuality, and would like to silence anyone referring to sexuality, the harshest criticism I can see reasonably leveled at the developers of this app is that they’ve injected some humor into something that some musicians might feel should be more serious. It’s not a problem for me.

  • @AlexB said:

    @decibelle said:

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    db909 said:
    @AlexB The app says "don't abuse the sex knob", sex knob is reverb and it's true you shouldn't abuse it, you can muddy up your mix. It also says "it's getting hot in here" which may or may not be true.

    Ok so the app makes a couple of soft jokes based on sex.
    From one side I think probably the dev could have avoided them,not because they talk about sex but because they are not especially funny. In no case we could call this as supporting sexual assaults but more on the range of unnecessary jokes. I am personally someone who is surprised that porn movies are called adult movies and any of Arnold Schwarzenegger films ( came Comando to my mind) I could watch them when I was a kid. Might be radical but I still believe that it's better to show naked bodies making sex than people killing each other. Sex by no means is a nasty word in my mind but probably unnecessary for a Saxophone app.

    The most important to me, does it sound really good?

    @Nkersov said:

    @AlexB said:
    In no case we could call this as supporting sexual assaults but more on the range of unnecessary jokes.

    >

    Exactly. Calling it a Sex Knob is funny for all of five seconds, and probably clever marketing, 'cause it generates publicity and can be switch very quickly in 1.1. But there is no way these peeps are supporting assault!

    I appreciate that few people ever intend to support sexual assault. Having said that, it is easy to do so unintentionally. And intentionally or not, support does support.

    So to me, specifically making light of "ABUSING THE SEX KNOB" as a "joke", as if sexual assault can EVER be funny, doesn't that explicitly reference sexual assault as something to be joked about? Seriously, how else can I interpret that?

    For me, I sexual assault fits in my "Serious as a heart attack every single time" category.

    To me this app sounds awesome. Unfortunately it is also an awesome sounding app which jokes about sexual assault. The idea of supporting this by buying it, which I unwittingly did because the warning is inaccurate, that makes me literally want to puke.

    So how it sounds, or supporting sexual assault, which is more important to you?

    For yourself, you choose.

    Also take note, the app devs rated this app as appropriate for nine year old children. Ugh.

    May I ask you: are you a woman? There are many ways to interprete the don't abuse the sex knob out of a sexual assault ( actually it didnt came to my mind at all). But probably you didnt get it because you have not been a male teenager.

    So, just because it's possible to interpret this phrase as referencing adolescent boys, are people who are or have been them the only intended customers? Because the app page explicitly offers it to 9 year old children and older. There is no gender restriction, except in the part of app design unrelated to its advertised function (saxophone simulator).

    So if I am or am not, that relates how?

    Good, now you realized there other ways of interpreting this as you thought, then moving one step further: you stated that people who buy it are supporters to sexual assaults. I would expect now apologies from your side. The fact that you interprete it as you do is no others fault so I expect you will be sensitive to my comment.
    The fact that there might be (bad) jokes not intended for the whole audience doesnt mean the audience might want to buy this app for other reasons.

    Let me remind you that Oscar Wilde went to prison as a sexual offender for the simple fact of being homosexual. He said once :
    "There is no such thing as a moral or an immoral book.
    Books are well written, or badly written. That is all." .

    Unfortunately, the rancid conservative victorian society did not end in the XIX century but still being present in these days.

    Ok, let me see if I understand you:

    You wanr ME to be sensitive to YOUR perception of the app

    Yep!

    YOU consider MY perception of the app ... WRONG and MY FAULT

    Actually you confirmed that when you first stated there was only one way of interpreting it and later on you admitted There could be others.

    You want ME to apologise to YOU for ... insensitivity?

    Nope, for calling me or anyone who buys the app a supporter of sexual abusers

    Oscar Wilde was um ... a Victorian homosexual who said things and was imprisoned

    Yep, mainly because they thought what he was doing was offensive to them. I believe you might get the link on this conversation and which you role you are taking on this reference

    Do I understand you correctly?

    It doesnt seem so but probably that's something you might better answer by yourself.

    I suspected your intentions before but I wasn't quite sure. Now that you've explained yourself so clearly I do feel much better, phew, so thank you for that.

  • @Peteclag said:
    No, respectfuly Trump is not remotely connected to the sensual sax app.<

    Correct.

    Also, in the interests of fairness, let's remember how crap the Obama administration has been, for example with regard to Bradley Manning (now Chelsea) who exposed a genuine American war crime, and was sentenced to 35 years in prison. All I'm saying is, the reason for Trump is because the opposition failed so badly.

  • @Nkersov said:

    @Peteclag said:
    No, respectfuly Trump is not remotely connected to the sensual sax app.<

    Correct.

    Also, in the interests of fairness, let's remember how crap the Obama administration has been, for example with regard to Bradley Manning (now Chelsea) who exposed a genuine American war crime, and was sentenced to 35 years in prison. All I'm saying is, the reason for Trump is because the opposition failed so badly.

    Love Chelsea. I'm a Bernie Bro myself.

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