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Sensual Sax by Embertone - The Most Realistic iOS Virtual Instrument Yet?
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Thank you very much. I appreciate your willingness to address a wider demographic.
Tested also with my EWI USB. Compared to what you have to pay, for example for a SWAM plug, its really unbelievable good. Only one sound at all, but this really nice to play and sounding.
Those people complaining must be from the usa where you can buy a gun on every corner of the street, but the word "sex" is still forbidden. Hello its 2017 and not 1904.
The look could be classier, admittedly. But this is a seriously great sounding app. Ultimately, we're using this stuff to make music, so that's what maters to me.
I had ignored this entire thread because I've never heard a good virtual Sax ever. It's only another "technical issues" thread that got me to download based on a demo I heard.
I didn't even notice the messaging until I started trying it in Cubasis. So in this case the sound definitely sold it. But agreed that a "PG" version would be a good compromise.
There are more instruments in their catalog that would be fantastic AU Instruments on iOS. Hoping these appear soon.
If you believe that people, including me, are objecting to the word "sex", and believing that makes you feel better, then you go right on believing that, and I wish you luck with that belief.
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Yes, please. It's one reason I'm trying to keep accentuating the positive. A developer as good as this - sound wise - selling at a very reasonable rate, and willing to engage with customers should be encouraged.
It sounds great, and possibly an instabuy for me. But. Staring at a UI that resembles a 1970's Soho strip club, is not going to be conducive for the type of music I make, since I have to look at the thing as well as listen to it.
In my opinion, nobody should be banned. It was just an exchange of words. Words don't hurt anybody if they don't allow them to hurt. Does anybody remember the phrase, "I'm rubber, You're glue. Whatever you say to me will stick to you"? Whatever happened to that mindset?
It's fair enough if people have the opinion that having the word "sex" on their instrument is a bit lame (I, personally, don't care). But if you make the connection to sexual abuse...that's your doing. Not the developers. Context is everything.
I'm fine with open discussion and a variety of opinions and perceptions. But I hate the way all anyone has to do to get their way now is shout the right buzz words; abuse, rape, mysoginy. Like that's just really shitty. You KNOW the intent wasn't to legitimise or condone or make light of abuse. The default position is that everyone knows it's bad and wouldn't suggest otherwise. It shouldn't need to be stated in an apology.
Drives me nuts.
Btw it sounds great. I'm not at a MIDI keyboard right now but can vibrato be added with the mod wheel? I love the legato mode with sensual mode turned on. Very realistic.
it was not long time ago when somebody of this forum started a big fuzz against a developer because he intervened in this forum starting his post with a simple "Gentlemen". The dev did not include, I assume, by mistake the corresponding "Ladies" before. This person made a big issue out of it and guess what, is the same person who now sees sexual abuses around.
Well, that's for me a toxic attitude in a very harmonical family of members that contribute in Audiobus forum.
Trolling can also be done by victims.
But that's not what that quote means at all
If you say something that offends me, that's my problem. It's not reasonable for me to demand you change, instead i should learn to deal with my issues. As such, saying you're offended is nothing more than whining
@AlexB and the worst part is, one of our family members has now been banned DUE to this other person. Patric didn't engage the other person first. The other person DIRECTLY addressed Patric on page 3, and THAT is what got the snowball rolling.
Patric, like many others, are tired of the type of regressive ideologies found in many other places online - that we should all have to watch what we say 24/7 in case somebody might become offended or get hurt feelings, that we have to stop having a sense of humour about inappropriate subjects, that everything must become sterile, neutered, and politically correct through badgering, censorship and newspeak. This is most likely why Patric became as hotheaded as he did.
Does this mean I agree with everything Patric said? HELL no. I agree with parts of what he said, but disagree with other parts of what he said. However, he didn't threaten anybody or cuss anyone out in an out-of-control rant. He didn't engage the other person first.
And, now thanks to this brouhaha, Patric's no longer with us. I really hope his ban will be lifted.
@jn2002dk One of my ideologies and sentiments exactly. Offense is never given mate. It's always taken.
@chimp_spanner "But I hate the way all anyone has to do to get their way now is shout the right buzz words."
And of course shout them over and over and over again so that the majority of people are badgered into caving to the whims of the few.
Why not telling the name, decibelle and here is the post its about.
https://forum.audiob.us/discussion/14646/soft-drummer-available-now-with-ableton-link-and-live-pads/p1
Would be nice, people here could stay more to musical context. Thats for me what its here all about.
Makes you wonder whether these strange people are here for the music stuff at all.
It's the same level of humour, bit old fashioned but mainly harmless. ( I did have a rendition of the benny hill theme played on sensual sax to go with this, but couldn't manage to upload it)
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Same person at the centre now, I believe.
While supporting free speech for all, it seems unfair to me that Patric gets barred for defending his position, while the endless bullshit of trying to brand a fine developer with a great product as a supporter of sexual abuse continues.
Come on Sebastian, one rule for all, please.
I have to say if this place is a 'family', then it can be a somewhat dysfunctional one - on occasions
Well, all families can have disagreements of one sort or another on occasion.
I wouldn't go as far as nobody but definitely not Patric_Bateman, not for what he wrote here. I personally wouldn't bring politics into it but I'm glad someone pushed back on the disgusting shaming tactics of @decibelle, well done @Patric_Bateman, @lovedamusic and a few others and no offence to anyone who asked for the PG changes in a civil manner.
so...like every family ever?
Saying I'm offended should lead to a civil discussion of the issue and the understanding that everyone doesn't look at things the same way.
To me the quote basically says "Shut up! What you feel does not matter".
That attitude is what concerns me.
Late to the party. People really getting all twisted over the word "sex"? Obvious to me, it's all in good fun (remember when sex was fun?), that sexy sax solo thing in the 80's. I saw the video demo and immediately thought of the Youtube video of Sexy Sax Man Careless Whisper Prank feat. Sergio Flores.
I'll share my view on this... I haven't been bullied.
A few users have mentioned that they're not interested in the product because it just looks too tacky. We could choose to alter the UI if we want to.
There are some issues discovered with AU- another thing we can check out
Some items on the UI offend users. We (Embertone) can choose to alter if we feel it's the right thing to do.
There's no coersion! I'd like to think there's room for everyone to throw their 2 cents in-
-alex
No, it shouldn't. It can, but it's not something that's obligatory
Your issues are yours. Not mine. If i say something that offends you then that's your problem and i'm not under any obligation to correct my behaviour because your feelings got hurt. Why should your feelings matter more than mine?
Why do we have to come to an understanding? Maybe i don't want to so why is your desire for an understanding (which of course really means the offender needs to fall in line) more important than my desire not to?
Proclaiming you're offended by something is the same as admitting you can't control your emotions so you need to control the offenders behaviour
God help us, what's happening to this lovely forum, when did it become so frigging cold hearted?
Personally speaking I don't care if a dev has a naked person on the app and calls it Big Cock Synth or Fanny Strings as long as it sounds good. I can also understand some have other opinions. I can however see why some are pissed off that when some scream fowl and then claim anyone supporting it is in some way deviant.
Yeah it's easy for us to get emotional even from a few thrown comments or someone seemingly being a dick, yet when the air cools, it's pretty easy for most to see that there are more important things to sort out.
Off to sort some of those more important things
Here's my 2 cents... I wasn't offended and thought it looked fun. From what I've heard, it sounds like a quality app. I'm a bit apprehensive about the reported AU issues with Auria Pro and Modstep, because being an AU is a positive feature that pushes me closer to buying.
I love the purple smoke loop and the sexy neon vibe. It's fun I think. But, I think the big button with Sex on it might be a deterrent. It doesn't offend me in the slightest and I question the ultimate motivation of those who claim they are. No, the only mild deterrent for me is that if someone passes by me at the coffee shop with my headphones on and sees me fingering a big round knob that says "Sex" on it, grinning from the sweet smooth sax vibes, I would prefer they don't speculate about some soft-core virtual porn app I'm getting my jollies with. LOL
I think the solution is simple. You can retain all of the sexy, 80's tongue-in-cheek kitsch, but just change one letter to make it Sax instead of Sex. Problem solved.
Should you be bullied or trolled into that change? Hell no. But, I think I would've already bought this app if that one letter were changed. Ok, maybe that was closer to 3 cents.
My motivation for joining this forum was to share and learn from so many knowledgeable people who love music.On the most part I've found friendly people