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iOS 11 - The Big Day is here 11/19/2017

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  • [Deleted User][Deleted User]

    @JRSIV said:

    @Fruitbat1919 said:
    Air2 iOS 11 only app I’ve had obvious trouble with so far is Drumperfect Pro won’t launch without going to background.

    @Fruitbat1919 FruitLoop my brother! You & @MusicInclusive have been my most trusted iOS update scouts. I appreciate the bravery you show of saying F it and going for the update day one.

    You weren't wrong about the tail end updates to iOS 8 or any of iOS 9...I worried, you reassured me, and my Air 2 has run like a champ on every update.

    Soooo....I'm very close to doing it. DrumPerfect Pro is a HUGE tool in my studio, my drums are still sat in the corner not set up because a) my room isn't treated the best it could for drums (but it'd work) and most importantly b) DrumPerfect Pro with the right samples and patience in programming is as close to real drums as you can get...Marinus saying he's working on a solution is a relief! So aside from DPP, if nothing else is buggered up...

    BTW: Am I missing something with the threads title?! Isn't today 09/19/17 or 19/09/17 for my British friends? I'm guessing just a typo...?

    Yeah, while I’ve jumped in, I would still advise caution if your setup is reliant on certain apps, but while there is bound to be some issues with this update, it’s not looking too bad so far as far as my use is concerned :) Yeah UK we use 19/09/17

  • [Deleted User][Deleted User]

    @wim said:

    @Fruitbat1919 said:
    Air2 iOS 11 only app I’ve had obvious trouble with so far is Drumperfect Pro won’t launch without going to background.

    In another thread the developer said an iOS 11 compatible version is being worked on some time within the last week.

    Thanks for the heads up :)

  • [Deleted User][Deleted User]

    AudioShare appears to be incompatible with the File Browser. It flips up a box as if loading, then vanishes.

  • JRSIVJRSIV

    @Fruitbat1919 Welp, I updated too and there is a few things I like & things I don’t.

    First off, the new app dock is excellent. Flying around between our various music apps is really gonna be cool. I’ve done the double tap of the home screen out of habit a few times, but the quick up swipe for the dock & a longer swipe for the app control center is so cool.

    Storage? Well, pre update I had 2.3GB free space. After? 21.7GB What?! Yep, Twenty One Gigabytes now free. BUT....
    When I was checking Audio Share I looked at it’s internal storage info and it said there was only 3.4GB free. Mmmm. I’ve rebooted twice and it’s the same result, so...we’ll see. I really don’t think iOS 11 regained me 20GB, but I have never done a factory reset so I don’t know...

    My biggest disappointment is the Files app. Okay, first of all I did only see a bit of the Apple event and although I had read several beta era reports and previews on the Apple tech sites, I did NOT do some thorough research. So it’s on me for misunderstanding or having big expectations.

    But, come on, it’s like barely redesigned iCloud app!? I thought we’d have file access to the individual apps, making drag and drop truly useful, i.e. dragging a sample out of Audio Share’s folder and then dropping it into Patterning’s folder. But instead, we can move iCloud files to Dropbox! You mean like I’ve been doing for 2 years with the Documents app?!

    Yeah, we can drag & drop the files now but aside from that the Files app is a popcorn fart. Yeah, drag & drop is neat, but all of the file transferring utilities available in the Files app could be done in Documents using edit, select, move, open in..., etc. Unless I’m using it wrong or missing something....the ultimate meh...

    Other than the Files turd, iOS 11 is playing nice with my Air 2. All the major apps work fine, the system is still quick & snappy and aside from AnaDestro, littleMIDI, eSequencer and Oscillator all my apps are 64 bit and working. Should you upgrade? To me, the dock and the promise of hopefully the Files app maturing & expanding, moving to iOS 11 is worth it if you have an Air 2 or later, and from what I’ve been seeing, even Air 1 owners are happy with it.

    Just be prepared for Apple’s subtle new design & layout scheme, ala Google’s perpetual F’ing with stuff that isn’t broken. I mean I understand they want the AppStore, the News app, their website, everything to share this unified look. But the App Store was perfectly fine, and now it looks like an amateur video game blog or some shit. Bad idea.

    But overall I like it, :smiley: lol okay reading back I’ve been quite critical, but it’s alright. It is just the “dot 0” version, it’ll be refined. Best of luck if you take the plunge...

  • OscarSouthOscarSouth

    Hm, sounding very promising! I like the idea of the dock. Seems like there's a bit of catching up to do by a few apps to intergrate Files properly. Perhaps I'll sub out Flux:FX for Turnado for a little bit.. not as playable but could definitely perform the same musical role through most of the same hardware controls.

  • marcuspresidentmarcuspresident

    I get extreme latency with my Bluetooth 4.0 headphones. I'm on iPad pro 12.9.

  • BiancaNeveBiancaNeve

    @Zen210507 said:
    AudioShare appears to be incompatible with the File Browser. It flips up a box as if loading, then vanishes.

    Same here.

  • ArtmuzzArtmuzz
    edited September 2017

    Addictive Pro AUv3 plugin crashed in BM3 when using more that two instance running iOS10.3.3. Now Addictive Pro AUv3 crashes with just two instance in BM3 on iOS 11. This is not good.

  • mistercharliemistercharlie

    @JRSIV said:

    But, come on, it’s like barely redesigned iCloud app!? I thought we’d have file access to the individual apps, making drag and drop truly useful, i.e. dragging a sample out of Audio Share’s folder and then dropping it into Patterning’s folder. But instead, we can move iCloud files to Dropbox! You mean like I’ve been doing for 2 years with the Documents app?!

    Apps have to add support for their folders to show up in Files app.

  • mistercharliemistercharlie

    @Zen210507 said:

    @oat_phipps said:
    The new app store absolutely sucks. And yeah, where's my wish list?

    >

    Same placee as your previously purchased list, gone as part of Apple’s less is more agenda. Ain’t progress wonderful. ;)

    Previous purchases are still there. They just moved:

    How to find your purchased apps in iOS 11

  • JRSIVJRSIV

    @mistercharlie said:
    Apps have to add support for their folders to show up in Files app.

    I'm curious about apps that are in our world. I know that because of the "sandbox" architecture Apple favors, in the past files have been locked down, but say if an app like Auria wanted to add support for the Files app could that work? Or is this more for storage related apps/services?

  • OscarSouthOscarSouth

    I hope it makes it easier to bounce stems out of Auria Pro

  • [Deleted User][Deleted User]
    edited September 2017

    @mistercharlie said:
    Previous purchases are still there. They just moved:

    How to find your purchased apps in iOS 11

    >

    Thank you, mistercharlie. :)

    BTW, this is a much slower way to search, and you have to backtrack to close it.

  • AndyPlanktonAndyPlankton

    Took the plunge on my 16GB Mini 2 last night...did an ondevice update as iTunes just plain refused to connect to the update server....

    Before update I had 800MB free space being reported by the settings app.....iTunes said there was 1.4GB
    Thought I'd just give it a go even though i expected a 'Not enough space' error....
    Got a message saying it needed 400MB more space....so looks like the iTunes figure of 1.4GB was actually the correct one and not the 800MB that the settings app reported...
    Remove a couple of apps that i haven't saved any files or presets in...ran the update....

    After the update 2.5GB free space :open_mouth:

    Not tried running any apps yet as I am full of a cold...encouraging to see the reports here of most stuff working or even working better than before :)

  • [Deleted User][Deleted User]

    I can also report that, for me at least, IOS 11 and latest iTunes on Mac Mini makes no difference at all to back up tasks. In fact it’s worse.

    I downloaded fresh version of latest iTunes and installed this on the Mac, then rebooted. But clicking on the iTunes icon, or trying to launch it any other way, completely fails to do anything at all. Total crap ware.

    So, I fired up iMazing 2 and had absolutely no problem in backing up my iPad.

    If a small, third party developer such as iMazing can get this right, why can’t Apple, with its 1.4 trillion dollar bank balance, make iTunes fit for purpose?

    You can bet if that fracking thousand dollar iPhone relied upon it, the cursed app would fly.

  • JesJes

    Is anyone using a Yamaha Bluetooth midi md Bt01 device in iOS 11?
    Is it working ok?

  • hightunnelshightunnels

    @Strizbiz said:
    So....took the plunge and updated my Air2, and so far so good, aside from the apps just just wont run because they arent 64bit, like Nanostudio and others, everything seems to be working perfectly. I have a TON of apps and ran thru a lot, not extensively but just to see what running and working without hiccups and no issues yet. Went thru all the DAWs I have on my Ipad, Cubasis, Garageband, Auria and Auria Pro, Mutitrack DAw, BeatMaker 3, BeatMaker2, ModStep, MusicStudio,Caustic, FL STudio, Genome MIDI.... everything except NanoStudio feel pretty solid so far. Rean thru some guitar sims, Amplitube,Bias fx, Bias Amp, Jamup Pro, Tonestack, Ampkit.. all solid, a bunch of synths, some graphic apps, video ( Lumafusion ).... Long story short, all good so far. I read where Drump Perfect Pro doesnt work, I dont have the pro to check it out, but Drum Perfect ( non pro ) works fine so Im sure thatll get sorted out.

    IOS11 overall... Im liking it, I love being able to put my go to's in the doc now that we can add more than 6 apps in the dock. A few things need to get sorted out with the new file system, Audioshare is listed but doesnt open in it, but Audioshare itself till works. So normally I dont rush into new IOS updates, especially a big one like this, but I took a chance and I think Ill be ok. I do have and Ipad 2 so I can still run 32 bits apps on that if I really want to.

    Now heres the one thing that Im a little disappointed with so far , and it might be my fault, I heard we'd be able to send midi and audio thru the lightning cable to the MacBook Pro and that the IPad work work pretty much like a usb class compliant device, and I thought I would see my Ipad inside Logic Pro and send midi to it, its not happening for me, but Im still running 10.9.5 on my Mac cuz I dont want to upgrade. If anyone has the midi and audio thru lightning cable going Id love to hear how they got that going. Anyway besides that Im good, though I think Ill have to get used to the new app store, I find it was easier to get around before the new one launched, we'll see.

    I've been able to send both midi and audio to ableton--works great with both iphone se and 2017 ipad. Running osx el capitan 10.11.6. You'll need to go to audio/midi set up on the mac, choose "show ios device browser" in the window tab and enable your ipad/iphone. Then they should show up as audio/midi sources in your daw.

  • gsm909gsm909

    @Strizbiz said:

    @gsm909 said:
    Air2 updating now

    Definitely would like to hear how it runs for you, I'm on an AIr2 as well but not updating until I hear some feedback, thank you for your bravery, lol.

    @Strizbiz said:

    @gsm909 said:
    Air2 updating now

    >
    @Strizbiz, I'm happy so far. Update without any issues, all my music apps are running very smoothly. Other general functions - Safari, FB, twitter all seem a little slicker than before.

    Overall, everything seems better than before. I'm happy.

  • TovokasTovokas
    edited September 2017

    @JRSIV said:
    I'm curious about apps that are in our world. I know that because of the "sandbox" architecture Apple favors, in the past files have been locked down, but say if an app like Auria wanted to add support for the Files app could that work? Or is this more for storage related apps/services?

    Yes, that's the big potential advantage of Files over apps like Documents or FileBrowser: once apps like Auria or Cubasis add support, we will be able to peer into the app file structure and move things in and out from any other accessible source. The functionality needs to be added by the developers on an app by app basis, but I imagine there will be a slow adoption over time.

  • JRSIVJRSIV

    @Tovokas said:

    @JRSIV said:
    I'm curious about apps that are in our world. I know that because of the "sandbox" architecture Apple favors, in the past files have been locked down, but say if an app like Auria wanted to add support for the Files app could that work? Or is this more for storage related apps/services?

    Yes, that's the big potential advantage of Files over apps like Documents or FileBrowser: once apps like Auria or Cubasis add support, we will be able to peer into the app file structure and move things in and out from any other accessible source. The functionality needs to be added by the developers on an app by app basis, but I imagine there will be a slow adoption over time.

    Beautiful! Okay, my bad as the kids say. I thought that was coming out from jump street, but actually that makes more sense. Some app devs may not want their file architecture available for all to see so individual apps taking the initiative to play nice with Files does seem more realistic.

    I was just excited! I was expecting to see all of the apps in that browser section with a Windows Explorer functionality happening...hell when I first opened it and only saw my iCloud folders I thought "nah, this must be the iCloud app still" and looked for the Files app in settings, etc. Then seeing it named Files in control center I was just disappointed. Oh well... hopefully lots of devs WILL adopt this feature, it has some serious potential.

  • LucidMusicIncLucidMusicInc

    Can't wait for 11.01 B)

  • AndyPlanktonAndyPlankton
    edited September 2017

    @JRSIV said:

    @Tovokas said:

    @JRSIV said:
    I'm curious about apps that are in our world. I know that because of the "sandbox" architecture Apple favors, in the past files have been locked down, but say if an app like Auria wanted to add support for the Files app could that work? Or is this more for storage related apps/services?

    Yes, that's the big potential advantage of Files over apps like Documents or FileBrowser: once apps like Auria or Cubasis add support, we will be able to peer into the app file structure and move things in and out from any other accessible source. The functionality needs to be added by the developers on an app by app basis, but I imagine there will be a slow adoption over time.

    Beautiful! Okay, my bad as the kids say. I thought that was coming out from jump street, but actually that makes more sense. Some app devs may not want their file architecture available for all to see so individual apps taking the initiative to play nice with Files does seem more realistic.

    I was just excited! I was expecting to see all of the apps in that browser section with a Windows Explorer functionality happening...hell when I first opened it and only saw my iCloud folders I thought "nah, this must be the iCloud app still" and looked for the Files app in settings, etc. Then seeing it named Files in control center I was just disappointed. Oh well... hopefully lots of devs WILL adopt this feature, it has some serious potential.

    I hope we will see use of the files app in place of where apps previously offered iTunes Filesharing....apps can still have their own internal structures...but use this as the gateway in/out

  • OscarSouthOscarSouth

    Animations feel much slower/less nimble than iOS10.

  • [Deleted User][Deleted User]
    edited September 2017

    Does anyone know how to view the purchased apps list in this newly designed App store?

  • HarroHarro

    @Arpseechord said:
    Does anyone know how to view the purchased apps list in this newly designed App store?

    It's on the Apps page in the top right corner: a round account button...

  • [Deleted User][Deleted User]

    @Harro said:

    @Arpseechord said:
    Does anyone know how to view the purchased apps list in this newly designed App store?

    It's on the Apps page in the top right corner: a round account button...

    Very good just seeing that now! Thanks

  • JohnnyGoodyearJohnnyGoodyear

    Updated everything apart from the Air1 that will never be updated. Mostly works. Small as it is, love the new dock. Generally happy in an Eeyore way that nothing (significant to me) is too banjaxed. Inevitable hurdle largely cleared. Moving on etc.

  • OscarSouthOscarSouth

    App switching is fantastic. That and future potential of Files alone are a huge leap forward. Feels like an actual step forwards!

  • gusgranitegusgranite

    How do you stop the flippin’ Apple Music icon from continuously popping up on your dock?

  • gsm909gsm909

    Just saw the Bram Bos apps updated in the store, thought 'full screen AU's already?', but unfortunately not yet.

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