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iOS 11 is NOT an improvement

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  • Is it possible to upgrade IOS On cellular only?

  • Has Harmony Eight by VirSyn become a bit broken for anyone else?

    Can’t get anything out of it as an AU in AUM or MTS.

    Also seems a bit wonky as an IAA.

  • @mrufino1 said:

    @BigDawgsByte said:
    It looks like about 25% of the owners of devices capable of running iOS 11 have upgraded to iOS 11 in the first week.

    Personally I love iOS 11 and am thrilled with the new features. Can't imagine going back. The smart reverse is better than nothing and you can but a button to switch it on and off in the command center. No serious issues so far.

    What is smart reverse? I haven't heard of that.

    I hate the white screens, I have issues that give me headaches from bright lights, screens, etc. The invert (sorry I called in reverse) feature is in the accessibility controls, but using it made photos look putrid. The new "smart" inverse inverts the colors, but keeps the pictures un-inverted and you can add a button in the control center to turn it on and off. A small step forward to a real dark mode, but better than nothing.

    Sorry if my use of reverse in stead of invert confused the issue.

  • Sorry if my use of reverse in stead of invert confused the issue.

    Ah, that makes sense, gotcha. One thing that Apple is great with is accessibility features.

  • @BigDawgsByte said:

    @mrufino1 said:

    @BigDawgsByte said:
    It looks like about 25% of the owners of devices capable of running iOS 11 have upgraded to iOS 11 in the first week.

    Personally I love iOS 11 and am thrilled with the new features. Can't imagine going back. The smart reverse is better than nothing and you can but a button to switch it on and off in the command center. No serious issues so far.

    What is smart reverse? I haven't heard of that.

    I hate the white screens, I have issues that give me headaches from bright lights, screens, etc. The invert (sorry I called in reverse) feature is in the accessibility controls, but using it made photos look putrid. The new "smart" inverse inverts the colors, but keeps the pictures un-inverted and you can add a button in the control center to turn it on and off. A small step forward to a real dark mode, but better than nothing.

    Sorry if my use of reverse in stead of invert confused the issue.

    Think it goes by Dark Mode as well, an un-official name for the smart invert, only thing is doesn't it make the dark colours light as well, so it's kind of win-some, lose-some.

  • OT. My live rig on 10.3.3 with Audiobus 2 still works great :)

  • edited September 2017

    The salesmen don't want you to be in control of your things, they want you confused. It is a bit like banks lending to governments so they can dictate the way things are.

    I started to get suspicious when I started to use Google email. My last email had user folders where I compartmentalised my emails. Google don't want you to do that. They want you to use their search. But if search doesn't yield results what do you do? Sift through thousands of emails. Google or Siri are like those slightly suspicious butlers, waiters that spit in your soup but they stir it so well you can’t tell the difference between spice and flegm.

    The salesman do not want you to keep your fridge, car, Samplr for half of your life. They keep rearranging items on shelves in supermarkets. They want you to keep changing, keep running after the better you. The you that makes better things, the you that will never exist. In fact they don't want you to find yourself. Quite the opposite. They want you to get lost in their toy shop.

    So yes, if you want to escape the predators, if you don't want to be the sheep, you've got to think critically, you've got to take the birdview of the world and your place in it.

    It's never been so easy, yet it's never been so hard.

  • edited September 2017

    @brambos said:
    Installed it on Air 2, Mini 4, iPod 6G, iPhone 7. Runs perfectly smooth on all devices, same battery life as before, no connectivity issues, no problems with any of the apps I've tried. This is an iOS version that has lots of interesting potential.

    It seems there's a batch of faulty iPads Pro 10.5 out there which go belly up as soon as you pick them up. Any problems experienced on those is more likely due to a hardware or firmware issue than due to iOS 11.

    As long as you don't use multiple music apps at once. Once you do problems are imminent. Constant Audio Drop Outs and Sync loss when you switch Apps. It's horrible. Wasn't that bad on iOS 10. Heres to hoping they release a fix soon. Last nights Update didn't make it better.

    On the normal 2017 iPad that is...

  • @supadom said:
    So yes, if you want to escape the predators, if you don't want to be the sheep, you've got to think critically, you've got to take the birdview of the world and your place in it.

    >

    Like, I’m flying around, just trying to survive, and all I can really do is seek out targets for a well placed plop! ;)

  • @o_imseng said:

    @brambos said:
    Installed it on Air 2, Mini 4, iPod 6G, iPhone 7. Runs perfectly smooth on all devices, same battery life as before, no connectivity issues, no problems with any of the apps I've tried. This is an iOS version that has lots of interesting potential.

    It seems there's a batch of faulty iPads Pro 10.5 out there which go belly up as soon as you pick them up. Any problems experienced on those is more likely due to a hardware or firmware issue than due to iOS 11.

    As long as you don't use multiple music apps at once. Once you do problems are imminent. Constant Audio Drop Outs and Sync loss when you switch Apps. It's horrible. Wasn't that bad on iOS 10. Heres to hoping they release a fix soon. Last nights Update didn't make it better.

    On the normal 2017 iPad that is...

    Could you elaborate on how to reproduce it? I just had about an hour of Troublemaker + Ripplemaker + Ruismaker + AUM running concurrently on an Air 2 and an iPod Touch 6G to test my new MIDI features, and still haven't noticed anything out of the ordinary.

    So that's using multiple apps with IAA, AU and CoreMIDI simultaneously, which should be a complex enough test case.

  • @Zen210507 said:

    @supadom said:
    So yes, if you want to escape the predators, if you don't want to be the sheep, you've got to think critically, you've got to take the birdview of the world and your place in it.

    >

    Like, I’m flying around, just trying to survive, and all I can really do is seek out targets for a well placed plop! ;)

    Each will find their own story

  • @supadom said:
    Each will find their own story

    >

    A story telling bird, like Big Bird on Sesame Street, or for British viewers of a certain vintage, Ollie Beak, pictured below with Fred Barker on The 5 O’Clock Club.

  • @brambos said:

    @o_imseng said:

    @brambos said:
    Installed it on Air 2, Mini 4, iPod 6G, iPhone 7. Runs perfectly smooth on all devices, same battery life as before, no connectivity issues, no problems with any of the apps I've tried. This is an iOS version that has lots of interesting potential.

    It seems there's a batch of faulty iPads Pro 10.5 out there which go belly up as soon as you pick them up. Any problems experienced on those is more likely due to a hardware or firmware issue than due to iOS 11.

    As long as you don't use multiple music apps at once. Once you do problems are imminent. Constant Audio Drop Outs and Sync loss when you switch Apps. It's horrible. Wasn't that bad on iOS 10. Heres to hoping they release a fix soon. Last nights Update didn't make it better.

    On the normal 2017 iPad that is...

    Could you elaborate on how to reproduce it? I just had about an hour of Troublemaker + Ripplemaker + Ruismaker + AUM running concurrently on an Air 2 and an iPod Touch 6G to test my new MIDI features, and still haven't noticed anything out of the ordinary.

    So that's using multiple apps with IAA, AU and CoreMIDI simultaneously, which should be a complex enough test case.

    1. Reboot iPad with Headphone port disconnected
    2. Open Novation Launchpad Project
    3. Go back to home screen
    4. Open Korg Gadget Project
    5. Go Back to Homescreen
    6. Go to Launchpad and start playback
    7. Switch to Gadget and start playback
    8. Switch to Zeeon and start playing a patch
    9. Open the multitask app over view
    10. Select either Launchpad or Korg Gadget
    11. Switch between apps

    Results, everytime a new window is displayed and rendered Audio Playback immediately starts to crackle and apps with Ableton Link are loosing sync.
    This can get even so worse that when this happens and the apps try to catch up with the audio streams you can kill off one app via the app overview (Slide up) and this will override the Audio Buffer temporarily.

  • I believe its not running them in parallel its when you start switching between apps.

  • I also didn‘t experience any weirdness yet (knock on wood). Tested setup includes Noatikl, Effektrix, Turnado, iFretless, Phonem, Groovebox, Aum, all in AB2.

  • ...and devices were Air2 and Pro 9,7

  • edited September 2017

    @o_imseng said:
    I believe its not running them in parallel its when you start switching between apps.

    Interesting, thanks for the extensive process steps. I’ll try it out with some of the apps you’ve listed.

    Edit: I hope it’s not device-dependent because that will make software testing a nightmare :|

  • @o_imseng said:
    I believe its not running them in parallel its when you start switching between apps.

    Makes sense. In general switching apps gives cpu spikes:

  • I wonder wether they changed something with the background refresh.

  • @brambos said:

    @o_imseng said:
    I believe its not running them in parallel its when you start switching between apps.

    Interesting, thanks for the extensive process steps. I’ll try it out with some of the apps you’ve listed.

    Edit: I hope it’s not device-dependent because that will make software testing a nightmare :|

    You are welcome. Im an IT guy that's why i am used writing step by steps.

  • edited September 2017

    @brambos said:

    Could you elaborate on how to reproduce it?

    I think I’m getting something similar on an iMini 4. Running midiSequencer into iSyntronic via IAA. Switching back and forth between them slows down midiSequencer for a moment. Sounds kind of like a cassette tape getting ready to get stuck.

    Ah - getting this when switching with the home button. Not so much with the dock.

  • Its 100% done by the OS. I guess the new multitasking had an effect on cpu task priorities. It seems rendering screens is always getting prio one and thus interfering with audio streams.

  • @R_2 said:

    @o_imseng said:
    I believe its not running them in parallel its when you start switching between apps.

    Makes sense. In general switching apps gives cpu spikes:

    What's this cpu monitor app?

  • It might be caused by that new 'drag and drop' feature within iOS11?

    An article at the site of The Register noted:

    'Well, iOS 11 is a bit like those old OLE or CORBA or Bento demos, but it works. You can drag and drop files, pictures, and URLs and the receiving application deals with the relevant data type. It works for multiple items. I said "sort of", since it doesn't try to do anything clever with the data, like set up a fancy IPC pipe between the sender and the receiver. (Microsoft sold OLE almost entirely on the lure of live stock price updates piping into Excel, or from Excel from Word). But conceptually and practically it's a big leap forward. I expect to see more of this.'

    https://theregister.co.uk/2017/09/20/ios_11_is_entirely_new_computer_platform/

  • @Panthemusicalgoat said:

    @R_2 said:

    @o_imseng said:
    I believe its not running them in parallel its when you start switching between apps.

    Makes sense. In general switching apps gives cpu spikes:

    What's this cpu monitor app?

    https://itunes.apple.com/app/system-status-battery-memory-cpu-data-usage/id401457165?mt=8

  • So what´s about this drop and drag option now? Are there any apps which let me now drop and drag midi, samples or whatever into a track, modulation source or OSC etc?

  • One telling thing is on iOS 10 app store there's an ad for the new app store and it says "upgrade to get these new features now" and then it proceeds to list barely any new features at all.

    But it also reveals that the design is "with one goal in mind, to make it a daily destination for you". Exactly that: not to make it more useful for you or more efficient, but just to get more sales by promoting daily habitual addiction.

    Apple drug pushers :)

  • @Carnbot said:
    One telling thing is on iOS 10 app store there's an ad for the new app store and it says "upgrade to get these new features now" and then it proceeds to list barely any new features at all.

    Seems to me that there actually are quite a few nice changes and additions in iOS11. But they're not in the form of pre-fab features you can find in the springboard with their own icons. They're actually in the form of new APIs and libraries that new apps can take advantage of. This means you'll have to wait a bit for the advantages to become apparent: until developers start using them in their apps.

    Indeed, things like drag'n'drop, AR, AUv3 MIDI OUT and other more subtle new possibilities. So far I'm really liking iOS11 and I see no reasons whatsoever to not update. All supported devices can run it with ease.

    On a related note: the "Evil Greedy Apple is intentionally slowing down my phone!!!!111" conspiracy theory has now been debunked:
    https://www.futuremark.com/pressreleases/is-it-true-that-iphones-get-slower-over-time

    :D

  • edited October 2017
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  • @brambos said:

    @Carnbot said:
    One telling thing is on iOS 10 app store there's an ad for the new app store and it says "upgrade to get these new features now" and then it proceeds to list barely any new features at all.

    Seems to me that there actually are quite a few nice changes and additions in iOS11. But they're not in the form of pre-fab features you can find in the springboard with their own icons. They're actually in the form of new APIs and libraries that new apps can take advantage of. This means you'll have to wait a bit for the advantages to become apparent: until developers start using them in their apps.

    Indeed, things like drag'n'drop, AR, AUv3 MIDI OUT and other more subtle new possibilities. So far I'm really liking iOS11 and I see no reasons whatsoever to not update. All supported devices can run it with ease.

    On a related note: the "Evil Greedy Apple is intentionally slowing down my phone!!!!111" conspiracy theory has now been debunked:
    https://www.futuremark.com/pressreleases/is-it-true-that-iphones-get-slower-over-time

    :D

    Yes I like the new features of iOS 11 in general especially for us musician/creatives was just referring to the appstore really, even though I think that on the iPhone SE the new appstore is actually is a bit clearer than the old appstore was.

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