Apps on Sale over Christmas and New Years 2017

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When is Beathawk sale over?

telecharge

@MusicMan4Christ said:
When is Beathawk sale over?

https://twitter.com/UVIofficial/status/944208769113903104

Looping_Loddar

@skiphunt said:

@CracklePot said:
@skiphunt I was also trying to compare between GR and Egoist. In the end I figured I could do more interesting things with ReSlice and a sequencer. The bass and beats part of Egoist looks kinda weak. GR looks way better for the synth sequencing and sounds, but I am not too clear on the sampling/slicing part. People have been talking it up to be cool, but I can't tell what is going on in the demos so much as regards to what sounds are coming from where, synth or sampler.

I decided to pass on Egoist, but am still trying to decide on GR. It looks like a lot of fun, but I am not much of a groovebox fan. More from lack of experience with them rather than just not liking them. But GR just sounds like a good buy. Poison 202 is awesome and everyone is claiming to have a blast playing with it, I am probably going to take them plunge tomorrow. I am sure I could get my $10 worth of fun out of it even if it doesn't fit in with my usual workflows.

(...)
Groove Rider so far has been painfully NOT intuitive. The manual is very basic, (...)
I watched Doug’s video and did not find it helpful in the slightest.

+1
Clueless noodling around by Doug, sorry. I think his older youtube videos have a better quality.

DeVlaeminck

@Looping_Loddar said:

@skiphunt said:

@CracklePot said:
@skiphunt I was also trying to compare between GR and Egoist. In the end I figured I could do more interesting things with ReSlice and a sequencer. The bass and beats part of Egoist looks kinda weak. GR looks way better for the synth sequencing and sounds, but I am not too clear on the sampling/slicing part. People have been talking it up to be cool, but I can't tell what is going on in the demos so much as regards to what sounds are coming from where, synth or sampler.

I decided to pass on Egoist, but am still trying to decide on GR. It looks like a lot of fun, but I am not much of a groovebox fan. More from lack of experience with them rather than just not liking them. But GR just sounds like a good buy. Poison 202 is awesome and everyone is claiming to have a blast playing with it, I am probably going to take them plunge tomorrow. I am sure I could get my $10 worth of fun out of it even if it doesn't fit in with my usual workflows.

(...)
Groove Rider so far has been painfully NOT intuitive. The manual is very basic, (...)
I watched Doug’s video and did not find it helpful in the slightest.

+1
Clueless noodling around by Doug, sorry. I think his older youtube videos have a better quality.

-1 Beg do differ - or I don’t beg. I just disagree.

Masanga

Omenie's Sopranotron and Mellotronics apps are half price.

Carnbot

@skiphunt said:

@CracklePot said:
@skiphunt I was also trying to compare between GR and Egoist. In the end I figured I could do more interesting things with ReSlice and a sequencer. The bass and beats part of Egoist looks kinda weak. GR looks way better for the synth sequencing and sounds, but I am not too clear on the sampling/slicing part. People have been talking it up to be cool, but I can't tell what is going on in the demos so much as regards to what sounds are coming from where, synth or sampler.

I decided to pass on Egoist, but am still trying to decide on GR. It looks like a lot of fun, but I am not much of a groovebox fan. More from lack of experience with them rather than just not liking them. But GR just sounds like a good buy. Poison 202 is awesome and everyone is claiming to have a blast playing with it, I am probably going to take them plunge tomorrow. I am sure I could get my $10 worth of fun out of it even if it doesn't fit in with my usual workflows.

Ended up buying both.

I like Egoist. I found the interface easy to figure out quickly and I think I understand 75% of it in just the first 15mins of playing with it. I haven’t imported my own samples in yet, but everything looks pretty clear.

Groove Rider so far has been painfully NOT intuitive. The manual is very basic, and I think much is assumed that users are already familiar with other groovebox interfaces like Electribe. I am not. I can’t even figure out something as simple as naming a freaking part!

I watched Doug’s video and did not find it helpful in the slightest. I won’t go into why, but I’ll be looking for a proper tutorial as soon as I can find one.

After a half hour I did manage at least to figure out the sequencer and shape some sounds with effects. I think I’ll definitely get my $10 out of it, but learning the interface without prior knowledge of the hardware it reportedly emulates is proving to be extremely frustrating so far.

That said... I don’t think it’s nearly as complicated to use as has been my experience so far. It’s just a matter of familiarizing myself with it’s particular syntax, coming from a complete lack of prior experience with Groove-boxes in general. Though, I can’t say the basic functions like naming and erasing have been intuitive at all. Giving up for tonight and will try again fresh mañana.

Agree it’s not that easy to pick up everything straightaway with GR but it’s definitely very playable when you get the workflow. Egoist is a classic for sure and is also great live as you can use the keyboard in slice mode to play the different slices, or you can use it with external sequencers. Also has AB3 midi out for the bass which is fun and useful.

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Mark B

@CracklePot said:
@skiphunt I was also trying to compare between GR and Egoist. In the end I figured I could do more interesting things with ReSlice and a sequencer. The bass and beats part of Egoist looks kinda weak. GR looks way better for the synth sequencing and sounds, but I am not too clear on the sampling/slicing part. People have been talking it up to be cool, but I can't tell what is going on in the demos so much as regards to what sounds are coming from where, synth or sampler.

I decided to pass on Egoist, but am still trying to decide on GR. It looks like a lot of fun, but I am not much of a groovebox fan. More from lack of experience with them rather than just not liking them. But GR just sounds like a good buy. Poison 202 is awesome and everyone is claiming to have a blast playing with it, I am probably going to take them plunge tomorrow. I am sure I could get my $10 worth of fun out of it even if it doesn't fit in with my usual workflows.

I’ve been looking through the preset patterns and apart from the obvious sampled sounds like piano’s, guitars, stabs and the odd breakbeat sample it’s all the synth. It’s actually quite capable but there are no presets so you have to start with your waveform and build the sound from it. There’s also an interesting pattern called looped kick which creates a lead sound from modifying a small section of the kick sample like a single cycle waveform. Clever stuff and lots of possibilities here.

Kühl

@DeVlaeminck said:

@Looping_Loddar said:

@skiphunt said:

@CracklePot said:
@skiphunt I was also trying to compare between GR and Egoist. In the end I figured I could do more interesting things with ReSlice and a sequencer. The bass and beats part of Egoist looks kinda weak. GR looks way better for the synth sequencing and sounds, but I am not too clear on the sampling/slicing part. People have been talking it up to be cool, but I can't tell what is going on in the demos so much as regards to what sounds are coming from where, synth or sampler.

I decided to pass on Egoist, but am still trying to decide on GR. It looks like a lot of fun, but I am not much of a groovebox fan. More from lack of experience with them rather than just not liking them. But GR just sounds like a good buy. Poison 202 is awesome and everyone is claiming to have a blast playing with it, I am probably going to take them plunge tomorrow. I am sure I could get my $10 worth of fun out of it even if it doesn't fit in with my usual workflows.

(...)
Groove Rider so far has been painfully NOT intuitive. The manual is very basic, (...)
I watched Doug’s video and did not find it helpful in the slightest.

+1
Clueless noodling around by Doug, sorry. I think his older youtube videos have a better quality.

-1 Beg do differ - or I don’t beg. I just disagree.

=1 I beg to agree with your disagreement

skiphunt

@Looping_Loddar said:

@skiphunt said:

@CracklePot said:
@skiphunt I was also trying to compare between GR and Egoist. In the end I figured I could do more interesting things with ReSlice and a sequencer. The bass and beats part of Egoist looks kinda weak. GR looks way better for the synth sequencing and sounds, but I am not too clear on the sampling/slicing part. People have been talking it up to be cool, but I can't tell what is going on in the demos so much as regards to what sounds are coming from where, synth or sampler.

I decided to pass on Egoist, but am still trying to decide on GR. It looks like a lot of fun, but I am not much of a groovebox fan. More from lack of experience with them rather than just not liking them. But GR just sounds like a good buy. Poison 202 is awesome and everyone is claiming to have a blast playing with it, I am probably going to take them plunge tomorrow. I am sure I could get my $10 worth of fun out of it even if it doesn't fit in with my usual workflows.

(...)
Groove Rider so far has been painfully NOT intuitive. The manual is very basic, (...)
I watched Doug’s video and did not find it helpful in the slightest.

+1
Clueless noodling around by Doug, sorry. I think his older youtube videos have a better quality.

I don't really want to disparage Doug's videos. He's obviously got a lot of fans here. It's just the going though the presets thing doesn't really do it for me. The ability to translate an interface so that it's understandable to new users is a tricky and rare skill all by itself. There are a couple other video makers who are able to take an app, briefly tell me what the app is for. Distill the most important functions down and present them in a way that makes sense to those uninitiated, and manage do it all in a relatively short period of time.

The Pants of Death guy's videos work for me like this. After watching a roughly 10min PoD video, I know what the app is for, what it sounds like, how the foundational features and functions work, and what a few presets sound like. At the end of his videos, I know if the app is for me, how difficult it'll be to learn, and I'll know the basics in order to hit the ground running if I decide to buy the app. But, that's just me. Different strokes.

I DID think that Doug's video for the Senode app was the best out there. I liked the Pant's of Death video for Senode too, but Doug did a great job of completely going through that app in a way that left no questions at all. I think he gets in a hurry to publish videos quickly and doesn't get a chance to actually learn the app first. If he'd use his excellent Senode tutorial video as a model for his videos in general, and less of the preset-only approach, he'd gain another fan.

Kühl

@BlueGreenSpiral said:
Not iOS but Vacuum Pro vst is on sale for a dollar for 48 hours, usual price is $149!
https://www.pluginboutique.com/product/4-Synth/1558-Vacuum-Pro

My god! Scheisse! I was miles away from my Mac. (sobbing)
(hysterical attacks)
Calling dr. Robert LoL

skiphunt

@Kühl said:

@BlueGreenSpiral said:
Not iOS but Vacuum Pro vst is on sale for a dollar for 48 hours, usual price is $149!
https://www.pluginboutique.com/product/4-Synth/1558-Vacuum-Pro

My god! Scheisse! I was miles away from my Mac. (sobbing)
(hysterical attacks)
Calling dr. Robert LoL

They're still on sale aren't they? I'm still showing Hybrid 3 and Vacuum Pro are still a $1 each.

Kühl

@skiphunt said:

@Looping_Loddar said:

@skiphunt said:

@CracklePot said:
@skiphunt I was also trying to compare between GR and Egoist. In the end I figured I could do more interesting things with ReSlice and a sequencer. The bass and beats part of Egoist looks kinda weak. GR looks way better for the synth sequencing and sounds, but I am not too clear on the sampling/slicing part. People have been talking it up to be cool, but I can't tell what is going on in the demos so much as regards to what sounds are coming from where, synth or sampler.

I decided to pass on Egoist, but am still trying to decide on GR. It looks like a lot of fun, but I am not much of a groovebox fan. More from lack of experience with them rather than just not liking them. But GR just sounds like a good buy. Poison 202 is awesome and everyone is claiming to have a blast playing with it, I am probably going to take them plunge tomorrow. I am sure I could get my $10 worth of fun out of it even if it doesn't fit in with my usual workflows.

(...)
Groove Rider so far has been painfully NOT intuitive. The manual is very basic, (...)
I watched Doug’s video and did not find it helpful in the slightest.

+1
Clueless noodling around by Doug, sorry. I think his older youtube videos have a better quality.

I don't really want to disparage Doug's videos. He's obviously got a lot of fans here. It's just the going though the presets thing doesn't really do it for me. The ability to translate an interface so that it's understandable to new users is a tricky and rare skill all by itself. There are a couple other video makers who are able to take an app, briefly tell me what the app is for. Distill the most important functions down and present them in a way that makes sense to those uninitiated, and manage do it all in a relatively short period of time.

The Pants of Death guy's videos work for me like this. After watching a roughly 10min PoD video, I know what the app is for, what it sounds like, how the foundational features and functions work, and what a few presets sound like. At the end of his videos, I know if the app is for me, how difficult it'll be to learn, and I'll know the basics in order to hit the ground running if I decide to buy the app. But, that's just me. Different strokes.

I DID think that Doug's video for the Senode app was the best out there. I liked the Pant's of Death video for Senode too, but Doug did a great job of completely going through that app in a way that left no questions at all. I think he gets in a hurry to publish videos quickly and doesn't get a chance to actually learn the app first. If he'd use his excellent Senode tutorial video as a model for his videos in general, and less of the preset-only approach, he'd gain another fan.

You know, for many of us, just hearing Dougs voice make the heart beat slower.
It’s like when a cat jumps into your lap and falls asleep

He also does an immense lot of work. If not every video is to you’d liking, I bet you’ll find something somewhere that helps you... well I’m going back to my Christmas pudding and liquor. Cheers mate!

[Deleted User]

@skiphunt said:

@CracklePot said:
@skiphunt I was also trying to compare between GR and Egoist. In the end I figured I could do more interesting things with ReSlice and a sequencer. The bass and beats part of Egoist looks kinda weak. GR looks way better for the synth sequencing and sounds, but I am not too clear on the sampling/slicing part. People have been talking it up to be cool, but I can't tell what is going on in the demos so much as regards to what sounds are coming from where, synth or sampler.

I decided to pass on Egoist, but am still trying to decide on GR. It looks like a lot of fun, but I am not much of a groovebox fan. More from lack of experience with them rather than just not liking them. But GR just sounds like a good buy. Poison 202 is awesome and everyone is claiming to have a blast playing with it, I am probably going to take them plunge tomorrow. I am sure I could get my $10 worth of fun out of it even if it doesn't fit in with my usual workflows.

Ended up buying both.

I like Egoist. I found the interface easy to figure out quickly and I think I understand 75% of it in just the first 15mins of playing with it. I haven’t imported my own samples in yet, but everything looks pretty clear.

Groove Rider so far has been painfully NOT intuitive. The manual is very basic, and I think much is assumed that users are already familiar with other groovebox interfaces like Electribe. I am not. I can’t even figure out something as simple as naming a freaking part!

I watched Doug’s video and did not find it helpful in the slightest. I won’t go into why, but I’ll be looking for a proper tutorial as soon as I can find one.

After a half hour I did manage at least to figure out the sequencer and shape some sounds with effects. I think I’ll definitely get my $10 out of it, but learning the interface without prior knowledge of the hardware it reportedly emulates is proving to be extremely frustrating so far.

That said... I don’t think it’s nearly as complicated to use as has been my experience so far. It’s just a matter of familiarizing myself with it’s particular syntax, coming from a complete lack of prior experience with Groove-boxes in general. Though, I can’t say the basic functions like naming and erasing have been intuitive at all. Giving up for tonight and will try again fresh mañana.

Since you took the plunge on Groove Rider and have read the manual, provide me a list of what you want to know and I’ll do a video.

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Philh0954

@tja said:

@skiphunt said:.
The Pants of Death guy's videos work for me like this. After watching a roughly 10min PoD video, I know what the app is for, what it sounds like, how the foundational features and functions work, and what a few presets sound like. At the end of his videos, I know if the app is for me, how difficult it'll be to learn, and I'll know the basics in order to hit the ground running if I decide to buy the app. But, that's just me. Different strokes.

Could you please drop a link to that channel?
Cannot find nothing with "Senode Pants of Death"

[Deleted User]

@Looping_Loddar said:
Clueless noodling around by Doug, sorry. I think his older youtube videos have a better quality.

>

The more involved, tutorial videos are certainly compelling. But Doug is never clueless.

I’m sure if you were to produce even one video that you consider to be informative, many people here would be keen to give it a play.

[Deleted User]

@tja said:
Could you please drop a link to that channel?
Cannot find nothing with "Senode Pants of Death"

in future, look up his reviews as pantsofdeath.

gkillmaster

@skiphunt said:
Scored Hybrid 3 and Vacuum Pro. Sweet. And, Man... we're so spoiled with the installation ease we enjoy with iOS. What a bunch of hassle hoops you have to jump through with these desktop plugins. These both sound really nice though. Thanks for the tip

Yeh! I'm surprised how much I'm really liking Hybrid 3!

billjobs_in_space

synthQ and 76 Synthesizer are 50% off until Jan 2nd (or the end of Jan 1st, depending on your perspective).

I made a (very rough) general tutorial for SQ for a couple of users who requested it — if anyone is interested in checking it out here you go:

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1QD0UynJBy5R__xrj6EQx89ppBZj16Nrf

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[Deleted User]

@Zen210507 said:

@Looping_Loddar said:
Clueless noodling around by Doug, sorry. I think his older youtube videos have a better quality.

>

The more involved, tutorial videos are certainly compelling. But Doug is never clueless.

I’m sure if you were to produce even one video that you consider to be informative, many people here would be keen to give it a play.

+1

billjobs_in_space

@tja said:
No sound

Thanks for this, I just updated the link — https://drive.google.com/open?id=1QD0UynJBy5R__xrj6EQx89ppBZj16Nrf

If it doesn't work, I'll upload it to my personal YT account.

ANOTHER EDIT: It appears that uploading iOS screen recording videos drop the microphone audio track, so you can hear audio from the synth, but not my voice. Sorry about that, going to try and remedy this soon.

skiphunt

@billjobs_in_space said:

@tja said:
No sound

Thanks for this, I just updated the link — https://drive.google.com/open?id=1QD0UynJBy5R__xrj6EQx89ppBZj16Nrf

If it doesn't work, I'll upload it to my personal YT account.

ANOTHER EDIT: It appears that uploading iOS screen recording videos drop the microphone audio track, so you can hear audio from the synth, but not my voice. Sorry about that, going to try and remedy this soon.

I'm finding iOS11 screen recording is a bit flaky still. Some video/motion apps totally freak out by the odd, non-standard size the screen recording saves. I'm curious if loading up a screen recording into an editor like Lumafusion, then resaving the screen recording as a standard video resolution might alleviate some of the weirdness.

JeffChasteen

@billjobs_in_space said:
synthQ and 76 Synthesizer are 50% off until Jan 2nd (or the end of Jan 1st, depending on your perspective).

I made a (very rough) general tutorial for SQ for a couple of users who requested it — if anyone is interested in checking it out here you go:

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1QD0UynJBy5R__xrj6EQx89ppBZj16Nrf

Both are very worthy synths. I'm particularly fond of the filter in 76 and often use it in the FX slot.

knewspeak

@Looping_Loddar said:

@skiphunt said:

@CracklePot said:
@skiphunt I was also trying to compare between GR and Egoist. In the end I figured I could do more interesting things with ReSlice and a sequencer. The bass and beats part of Egoist looks kinda weak. GR looks way better for the synth sequencing and sounds, but I am not too clear on the sampling/slicing part. People have been talking it up to be cool, but I can't tell what is going on in the demos so much as regards to what sounds are coming from where, synth or sampler.

I decided to pass on Egoist, but am still trying to decide on GR. It looks like a lot of fun, but I am not much of a groovebox fan. More from lack of experience with them rather than just not liking them. But GR just sounds like a good buy. Poison 202 is awesome and everyone is claiming to have a blast playing with it, I am probably going to take them plunge tomorrow. I am sure I could get my $10 worth of fun out of it even if it doesn't fit in with my usual workflows.

(...)
Groove Rider so far has been painfully NOT intuitive. The manual is very basic, (...)
I watched Doug’s video and did not find it helpful in the slightest.

+1
Clueless noodling around by Doug, sorry. I think his older youtube videos have a better quality.

It's a first look video and Doug used to have it's hardware predecessor, if I'm remembering correctly, so I think he would know a reasonable amount about it's workings. Now go get some holiday fun.

skiphunt

@JeffChasteen said:

@billjobs_in_space said:
synthQ and 76 Synthesizer are 50% off until Jan 2nd (or the end of Jan 1st, depending on your perspective).

I made a (very rough) general tutorial for SQ for a couple of users who requested it — if anyone is interested in checking it out here you go:

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1QD0UynJBy5R__xrj6EQx89ppBZj16Nrf

Both are very worthy synths. I'm particularly fond of the filter in 76 and often use it in the FX slot.

+1 on using 76 in the fx slot. It's got a nice sound and I keep forgetting you can ALSO use it as an effect.

billjobs_in_space

@skiphunt said:
I'm finding iOS11 screen recording is a bit flaky still. Some video/motion apps totally freak out by the odd, non-standard size the screen recording saves. I'm curious if loading up a screen recording into an editor like Lumafusion, then resaving the screen recording as a standard video resolution might alleviate some of the weirdness.

I ended up using QuickTime's screen recording feature to record the video playback — kind of annoying that I have to resort to this workaround. You can find the new video here:

@JeffChasteen said:
Both are very worthy synths. I'm particularly fond of the filter in 76 and often use it in the FX slot.

@skiphunt said:
+1 on using 76 in the fx slot. It's got a nice sound and I keep forgetting you can ALSO use it as an effect.

Thank you very much I'm glad people are still getting some use out of 76— the code for that is so old by this point that it might even benefit from a complete re-write (I would need all-new graphics for it though). Cheers!

oat_phipps

@skiphunt said:

@InfoCheck said:

@skiphunt said:

@ToMess said:

@skiphunt said:
Sadly... Although I got some other gift cards, I didn't get any iTunes gift cards this year And, I don't want to buy another $85 one right now. I really want to stop buying apps for a little why and spend more time with the giant stable of apps I already have. Insane really... I've got so many now, I have to remind myself whether I've already bought an app already or not. lol

That being said... I've still got a little credit left and figured I might be about to squeeze a couple more purchases without having to get another card right now. So, I figured I'd stick with ONLY apps that are on sale right now.

If you had to choose between Egoist or Groove Rider... which would be your first choice?

Grooverider. Its really easy to make good synths and drum sounds with and in general i like its workflow better. Im sure some would choose egoist, but they are quite different to work with. Because grooverider was just released, it will grow more or less from what it is now surely, egoist wont likely get any major updates in long time if ever.

I like mangling weird stuff though. Seems Groove Rider is really more for those making "groovy" ditties from the included samples and not so much for messing with your imported stuff to mangle up beyond recognition into insane weirdness. Or, can you do that in GR too?

Others say GR is good as a "sketch pad" for song ideas. I don't make songs, nor do I really have much interest in making songs so much... especially not "groovy" ones.

You can mangle your samples with either app. I think Groove Rider has more potential for being spontaneous. Egoist has several options for generating random parameters.

You can create some base pattern or load the pads up with samples and then start tweaking a bunch of knobs to play it. There’s really not many options for live performance with Egoist other than hitting randomization of parameters or changing slice points in your sample. In Groove Rider you can work with a lot more samples whereas in each Egoist project you’re working with one sample.

Once MIDI control is added to Groove Rider, I think it will work great with sequencers or 16 pad controllers.

I’m still having trouble working up enthusiasm for GR but your description has me more intrigued. Thanks. It’s likely that I just don’t “get” it yet.

Would you say there’s much crossover between Egoist, ReSlice & Sector? Or, applying automated effects to your sliced up samples assigned to pads in BM3 with some beats added?

I skipped all the posts after this. If you’re still deciding between Groove Rider and Egoist, go Egoist. I’ve used it before but never owned it til yesterday. It’s opened up my appreciation for sampling, and its ability to wring new melodies out of an already melodic sample.

BiancaNeve

@Kühl said:

@BlueGreenSpiral said:
Not iOS but Vacuum Pro vst is on sale for a dollar for 48 hours, usual price is $149!
https://www.pluginboutique.com/product/4-Synth/1558-Vacuum-Pro

My god! Scheisse! I was miles away from my Mac. (sobbing)
(hysterical attacks)
Calling dr. Robert LoL

For future reference you can buy stuff from plug in boutique on your iPad or whatever and then download to PC/Mac at your convenience.