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Digitakt is amazing!!

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  • Simply comparing features is the completely wrong approach. Sure, with Logic, Ableton, VSTs, Apps & Co. you can achieve the same results. The magic behind Elektron machines is their sequencer and the spell is called "Happy Accidents".

  • @klangsulfat said:
    Simply comparing features is the completely wrong approach. Sure, with Logic, Ableton, VSTs, Apps & Co. you can achieve the same results. The magic behind Elektron machines is their sequencer and the spell is called "Happy Accidents".

    Tell me more about the happy accidents? 'Accidents' sounds like a nightmare to me, but I am prepared to be surprised.

  • edited May 2019

    @Multicellular said:

    @klangsulfat said:
    Simply comparing features is the completely wrong approach. Sure, with Logic, Ableton, VSTs, Apps & Co. you can achieve the same results. The magic behind Elektron machines is their sequencer and the spell is called "Happy Accidents".

    Tell me more about the happy accidents? 'Accidents' sounds like a nightmare to me, but I am prepared to be surprised.

    I'm still using my Digitakt from time to time, the first step is always sampling live from all kinds of sources. Sampling, cutting, pitching, filtering and making whatever basic beat.
    It's fun to be playful with it, and it's fast.
    Then I like to add Groove Rider for the synthesis part and a few drums. Better than Digitone IMHO after loading FM synth wavetables into GR16.
    There are two ways to let them play together:
    Either by letting the Digitakt play the GR16 synths directly via USB MIDI, or by sequencing inside GR16 and running it as a MIDI Sync Slave with DIgitakt as the master. Perfectly tight and seamless combo.

  • @EyeOhEss said:

    @kobamoto said:
    true, I just try not to look at the price as much as possible these days when it comes to something I know I want cause it's like maybe it's too much but what else am I gonna spend the money on... something I want less :( .... I put another cup-o-noodles in a bowl and get down to it lol
    the digitone and takt side by side just feels good. We've got so many features these days now it's all about the feels

    If you want something more than anything else then yeah, obvs get it ;)

    But I think the point is at the elektron prices some people just want other stuff more these days ;) especially In the case of something like the Digitone/Digitone Keys if they already have FM and sequencing and master keyboard covered elsewhere..Which is a lot of people in 2019...I mean Operator in Ableton and some well mapped plugins is often gonna beat Digitone for both sound design AND workflow (if everything’s well mapped to Push2)....Especially for anyone doing lots of Polyphonic etc and wanting to work with lots of patterns that are longer than 64 steps and jam different patterns per track.....I often find the Elektron ‘feels’ can be just as irritating as it is inspiring...but again, it’s all so subjective and relates to the kind of compositions people are making.

    I find elektron boxes quite predictable these days. And the step limit and polyphony limits often don’t feel like creative limits to me, just plain old brick walls :/ Feel like the sequencer is starting to show it’s age and could do with a shot in the arm to push Elektron way back out front again. But again, all subjective....

    I guess that anything can become predictable depending on how familiar we get with it but I don't mind that so much, still love piano :) , I love ableton but the differences in how the push, digitakt, mpc, iPad, etc.. is what I like about all of them. So there's def an elektron flagship in my future just gotta wait and see what they pull out of their hat, Now that five12 is doing a lot of hardware stuff I'm hoping they'll get in the tabletop sampling beat machine game, soon as the deluge gets some extensive follow actions, scaling, and better sample flipping... maybe a better screen (on the next model) I'm for sure going in on one of those, I've been begging Akai for a mini version of the Force that is small enough to be able to comfortably carry around in a bag and they say if the Force is successful enough that a mini could be a possibility so I'm saving pennies for that as well.. these are good times

  • @nondes said:
    @Multicellular Run 8 instances of ReSlice or another sampler, add some LFOs and FX, and you get a better, polyphonic capable Digitakt.

    throw in Patterning for good measure... but I wonder what sequencer on iOS will allow you to mash together diff time sigs, tempos, and clock divisions... ?

  • edited May 2019

    @chandroji said:
    I had a Digitakt for about 3 month because a lot of videos at YT inspired me and I was curious.
    But I never got the wow effect while using it and it took me 3 months to find out that the Elektron workflow is not mine.
    I also missed the mobility aspect, the reason why I love my iPad.

    Now I enjoy completely opposite experiences with the Synthstrom Deluge, handcrafted by a small company in New Zealand!

    Love the size, the mobility and the connectivity. I love the Sound capabilities of the synths, the Kits and the (stereo) Sampler. For almost all tweaking settings I can use fast shortcuts on the matrix. No problem for me to dig in the Sequencer which offers also parameter locks and TrigConditions . Sequences can be as long as I want and the overall sequencer overview in the pads grid feels comfortable for me. But the most important for me is the workflow aspect. I have the Deluge for 2 weeks now and I have already 11 different projects running while learning. Never I got so fast, so nicely sequences running. This was not possible for me with the Digitakt. The Deluge is the first all in one device what inspiring me day by day and I love to work with it.. I couldn’t be happier! 👍

    Sure, these are my subjective experiences. Other loves the Digitakt and the Elektron workflow. 😊

    slice of heaven right there, is that a pair of 7506s?

  • If Native Instruments comes out with a standalone version of Maschine, it could crush. Personally, I'm holding off on upgrading to MK3 from MK2 in case this happens.

    Or they could actually support iMaschine....yeah, right.

  • @nondes said:
    If Native Instruments comes out with a standalone version of Maschine, it could crush. Personally, I'm holding off on upgrading to MK3 from MK2 in case this happens.

    Or they could actually support iMaschine....yeah, right.

    I feel like it's inevitable but at the same time they can be so stubborn, it amazes me at the lengths they'll go to not make some feature request happen.. I think for a long time they based every feature on whether richie hawtin would use it or not, heck if it wasn't for the native instruments feature request section the mpc Live probably wouldn't exist.
    It's staggering when you think about all of the superdope tech they have under their belt!!! I'd give them $1200 easy for a small tabletop beat machine that had maschines sampling abilities, absynthe, and metaphysical function all wrapped up together with a good song mode cherry on top

  • black box looks like it'll be interesting too, after another update or two

  • Watched this video too, @kobamoto and GAS kicked in. I thought about the wonderful easy workflow of setting up LAODS of samples into this machine via just a small mini SD card. For me this looked a bit like a launchpad to go in a hardware box.

    The pricetag is my hindrance point right now (and the fact that you cannot buy it atm ;).
    I will keep this box on my radar though. And also excited to see the updates they will bring...

  • @kobamoto said:

    @nondes said:
    @Multicellular Run 8 instances of ReSlice or another sampler, add some LFOs and FX, and you get a better, polyphonic capable Digitakt.

    throw in Patterning for good measure... but I wonder what sequencer on iOS will allow you to mash together diff time sigs, tempos, and clock divisions... ?

    Modstep.

  • @rs2000 said:

    @Multicellular said:

    @klangsulfat said:
    Simply comparing features is the completely wrong approach. Sure, with Logic, Ableton, VSTs, Apps & Co. you can achieve the same results. The magic behind Elektron machines is their sequencer and the spell is called "Happy Accidents".

    Tell me more about the happy accidents? 'Accidents' sounds like a nightmare to me, but I am prepared to be surprised.

    I'm still using my Digitakt from time to time, the first step is always sampling live from all kinds of sources. Sampling, cutting, pitching, filtering and making whatever basic beat.
    It's fun to be playful with it, and it's fast.
    Then I like to add Groove Rider for the synthesis part and a few drums. Better than Digitone IMHO after loading FM synth wavetables into GR16.
    There are two ways to let them play together:
    Either by letting the Digitakt play the GR16 synths directly via USB MIDI, or by sequencing inside GR16 and running it as a MIDI Sync Slave with DIgitakt as the master. Perfectly tight and seamless combo.

    Seems like more of a workflow convenience than a capability issue. I totally get that. I mean I have my iPad combined with a couple hardware synths usually and the iPad could totally do what they do, I simply like the easy access to the knobs.

  • @Multicellular said:

    @rs2000 said:

    @Multicellular said:

    @klangsulfat said:
    Simply comparing features is the completely wrong approach. Sure, with Logic, Ableton, VSTs, Apps & Co. you can achieve the same results. The magic behind Elektron machines is their sequencer and the spell is called "Happy Accidents".

    Tell me more about the happy accidents? 'Accidents' sounds like a nightmare to me, but I am prepared to be surprised.

    I'm still using my Digitakt from time to time, the first step is always sampling live from all kinds of sources. Sampling, cutting, pitching, filtering and making whatever basic beat.
    It's fun to be playful with it, and it's fast.
    Then I like to add Groove Rider for the synthesis part and a few drums. Better than Digitone IMHO after loading FM synth wavetables into GR16.
    There are two ways to let them play together:
    Either by letting the Digitakt play the GR16 synths directly via USB MIDI, or by sequencing inside GR16 and running it as a MIDI Sync Slave with DIgitakt as the master. Perfectly tight and seamless combo.

    Seems like more of a workflow convenience than a capability issue. I totally get that. I mean I have my iPad combined with a couple hardware synths usually and the iPad could totally do what they do, I simply like the easy access to the knobs.

    100%.
    Feature-wise there are many alternatives, most could be done with Beatmaker 3 or Nanostudio 2 but it's about the way this overpriced drum machine feels hands-on B)

  • @kobamoto said:
    black box looks like it'll be interesting too, after another update or two

    Could be a great alternative to both the Digitakt and the OP-1.

  • @david_2017 said:
    Watched this video too, @kobamoto and GAS kicked in. I thought about the wonderful easy workflow of setting up LAODS of samples into this machine via just a small mini SD card. For me this looked a bit like a launchpad to go in a hardware box.

    The pricetag is my hindrance point right now (and the fact that you cannot buy it atm ;).
    I will keep this box on my radar though. And also excited to see the updates they will bring...

    keeping my eye on it too, this thing is even more unassuming than an iPad, maybe the closest thing I can think of is an iPad mini but I love stuff like this, powerful, portable and doesn't draw too much attention

  • @rs2000 said:

    @kobamoto said:
    black box looks like it'll be interesting too, after another update or two

    Could be a great alternative to both the Digitakt and the OP-1.

    or a great combo, it's amazing what capabilities can fit in a tiny bag these days... I used to carry around an sp-808 and an almost 10Lb acer laptop around in my bag everyday and my back still hasn't forgiven me

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  • @kobamoto said:

    @david_2017 said:
    Watched this video too, @kobamoto and GAS kicked in. I thought about the wonderful easy workflow of setting up LAODS of samples into this machine via just a small mini SD card. For me this looked a bit like a launchpad to go in a hardware box.

    The pricetag is my hindrance point right now (and the fact that you cannot buy it atm ;).
    I will keep this box on my radar though. And also excited to see the updates they will bring...

    keeping my eye on it too, this thing is even more unassuming than an iPad, maybe the closest thing I can think of is an iPad mini but I love stuff like this, powerful, portable and doesn't draw too much attention

    I read from one of the 1010music guys over in the elektron forums that they plan to do updates.
    Maybe its something like the Line 6 Helix line. Helix Floor got two new brothers the Helix Stomp and the Helix FX and all this will generate money to make a development possible and bring the whole system forward. Basically a win win situation sort of thing.
    Excited to see more people using it and posting videos on uTube and forums in near future.

  • @EyeOhEss said:

    @rs2000 said:

    @kobamoto said:
    black box looks like it'll be interesting too, after another update or two

    Could be a great alternative to both the Digitakt and the OP-1.

    Can’t watch vid right now (game of thrones finale.....) but how does this square up against an mpc live? I always felt like if I was gonna get touch screen hardware the Mpc live would be my first port of call.

    The UI and workflow look fun but MPC Live has more dedicated buttons and a much larger, less fiddly touch screen.
    I might compare the workflow with NanoStudio 2 first because it's one of the few apps that can sample and because it feels quite accessible to me, deliberately skipping the theoretically more powerful BM3 with its Ableton-style clip launching option that still doesn't click with me.

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  • @david_2017 said:

    @kobamoto said:

    @david_2017 said:
    Watched this video too, @kobamoto and GAS kicked in. I thought about the wonderful easy workflow of setting up LAODS of samples into this machine via just a small mini SD card. For me this looked a bit like a launchpad to go in a hardware box.

    The pricetag is my hindrance point right now (and the fact that you cannot buy it atm ;).
    I will keep this box on my radar though. And also excited to see the updates they will bring...

    keeping my eye on it too, this thing is even more unassuming than an iPad, maybe the closest thing I can think of is an iPad mini but I love stuff like this, powerful, portable and doesn't draw too much attention

    I read from one of the 1010music guys over in the elektron forums that they plan to do updates.
    Maybe its something like the Line 6 Helix line. Helix Floor got two new brothers the Helix Stomp and the Helix FX and all this will generate money to make a development possible and bring the whole system forward. Basically a win win situation sort of thing.
    Excited to see more people using it and posting videos on uTube and forums in near future.

    good to know, I think the next major update will show which way they really intend to go with it.. It was kind of bold for someone to come out with something like this in light of all of the alternatives and those are the kind of devs I like....

  • some good techniques that you can apply to other pieces of kit as well

  • @kobamoto said:

    @david_2017 said:

    @kobamoto said:

    @david_2017 said:
    Watched this video too, @kobamoto and GAS kicked in. I thought about the wonderful easy workflow of setting up LAODS of samples into this machine via just a small mini SD card. For me this looked a bit like a launchpad to go in a hardware box.

    The pricetag is my hindrance point right now (and the fact that you cannot buy it atm ;).
    I will keep this box on my radar though. And also excited to see the updates they will bring...

    keeping my eye on it too, this thing is even more unassuming than an iPad, maybe the closest thing I can think of is an iPad mini but I love stuff like this, powerful, portable and doesn't draw too much attention

    I read from one of the 1010music guys over in the elektron forums that they plan to do updates.
    Maybe its something like the Line 6 Helix line. Helix Floor got two new brothers the Helix Stomp and the Helix FX and all this will generate money to make a development possible and bring the whole system forward. Basically a win win situation sort of thing.
    Excited to see more people using it and posting videos on uTube and forums in near future.

    good to know, I think the next major update will show which way they really intend to go with it.. It was kind of bold for someone to come out with something like this in light of all of the alternatives and those are the kind of devs I like....

    I am really curious. I have to stop watching these YouTube videos 🙈
    But for me it makes sense. The wonderful easy and quick way to get my samples into it (bought a bunch of Mode audio and loopmasters sound samples) and the convenience of triggering them like a hardware launchpad app and additional to this sequence samples and stuff like that makes it a really really really interesting Box me.

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  • Or you can use Maschine like I do, without the step sequencer. #noterepeat

  • edited May 2019

    I no longer have the patience for Midi sequencers that have no tempo automation, no intuitive mute/solo automation, no time signature automation, no midi merge features, no individual tempos per sequence etc... and that force me to use a whole additional other piece of software or daw at the same time just to emulate the functionality of 30 year old groove boxes. If you're just making beats you shouldn't have to turn on more than one piece of software ... Sadly a lot of kids today look at flashing lights and shiny midi controllers and think you are supposed to have to open up logic or ableton in addition to your beat machine to be able to do those things listed above.... when they find out you can do that stuff on beat machines made before they were born they either don't believe It or their heads explode, they act like that stuff is part of finalizing a song.. umm no, making beats with variation is not a part of the mastering process

  • edited May 2019

    @kobamoto said:
    I no longer have the patience for Midi sequencers that have no tempo automation, no intuitive mute/solo automation, no time signature automation, no midi merge features, no individual tempos per sequence etc... and that force me to use a whole additional other piece of software or daw at the same time just to emulate the functionality of 30 year old groove boxes. If you're just making beats you shouldn't have to turn on more than one piece of software ... Sadly a lot of kids today look at flashing lights and shiny midi controllers and think you are supposed to have to open up logic or ableton in addition to your beat machine to be able to do those things listed above.... when they find out you can do that stuff on beat machines made before they were born they either don't believe It or their heads explode, they act like that stuff is part of finalizing a song.. umm no, making beats with variation is not a part of the mastering process

    Can I get an Amen?

  • edited May 2019

    Enrique is a great artist and does great demos but after watching the workflow on this vid which I think is the best one out right now... I'm definitely having second thoughts about this... don't think I would be reaching for this over my iPad anytime soon.

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