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I love how you steer us away from the pert Debbie Reynolds picture we're quickly building by way of manly hockey-signalling there Mister...
God dammit, Perry Mason over here.... YOU'RE GODDAMN RIGHT I ORDERED THE CODE RED.
It was always obvious, to some of us at least, that the whole WMD issue was a smokescreen to justify a war that had already been preordained by the Bush Administration. That's why 2 million of us (including me) went on a march in London to protest about it. This situation isn't comparable. Some specific businesses (Zoom etc) may benefit from the pandemic but generally this is not in the interests of the ruling elites because it's reducing economic growth, reducing profits etc. Hence the pressure from the hard right of politics in the UK and the USA NOT to lock down again and to 'get back to the office' even the though many millions of people are working perfectly effectively and much more safely from home. They want to keep Pret a Manger and Starbucks in business at the expense of human health basically! So politicians like Johnson aren't "being told what they want to hear", they're being told the opposite of what they want to hear. What they WANT to hear is what Trump said - that the virus will "magically go away". It won't...
Don’t worry, it’s all been planned. Lots of small companies are failing now. But it doesn’t matter, they don’t fit into the new normal and there’s lots of money to be made. Goldman Sachs. The great reset.
COVID-19 is the type of event that resets the entire economy. For investors and companies, this is an existential event where capital needs to find new homes and where yesterday’s strategies will work only by accident the way the stopped clock sometimes tells the right time. This is where markets excel—looking at the companies whose models no longer work and moving that capital to new companies whose business models show more promise. And then as the rules continue to change, doing it again. Public policy quite rightly is focused on minimizing the damage, which is only a small distance from a policy of reducing change. Markets, in contrast, need to embrace change. Supporting business models that work, and starving those that don’t, is how economies adapt to new circumstances. Such change is inherently chaotic, for as each thing changes, it enables and incentivizes a dozen others. The economic cure to the disruption of COVID-19 will not be resurrecting yesterday’s economy. It will be a combination of consolidating and expanding the success of some of today’s winners and retooling failing companies and funding new entrants who will replace those who cannot make the needed changes.
https://www.goldmansachs.com/insights/pages/gs-research/the-great-reset/report.pdf
I love my desk too much to put my head through it...
I choose to take my masks and data and walk away. We’re not on lockdown in Japan, so I’ll just go back to having a lovely day.
Best of luck to you all.
So it's
(1) Directly caused by COVID
(2) All been planned
(3) Inherently chaotic
Ok then🤔
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Who said they made Covid. There is obviously planning ahead for events. Pandemics come along every decade or so. I’ve lived through several. This one isn’t the doomsday bug it’s made out to be. But it’s being used for a major change in our lives.
Clueless
Wow. You spend too much time by yourself, man.
There is nothing exceptional compared to previous flu epidemics and the world carried on. H2N2 in the US would of killed 221,000 people adjusted for todays population.
In the UK this hasn't killed anymore than the 1999/2000 flu season.
Since July in the UK more people are being killed by the flu.
The government stopped talking about deaths and its all about cases, even though they are not causing deaths. They ramped up the fear massively yesterday and now we have 6 months of more draconian measures with the army backing up the police, being based on sketchy data. This is being kept going whatever.
Testing the waters for the mandatory experimental mRNA vaccine.
Yes - BECAUSE WE LOCKED DOWN! That's the same reason why Ferguson's predictions were 'wrong'. His predictions were based on what he estimated would happen IF we carried on as normal. But we didn't - we locked down to save lives.
The Goldman Sachs article you posted was absolutely excellent by the way - I've read the entire thing. But there is nothing in it whatsoever to suggest that this situation is being deliberately engineered to initiate a 'great reset'. You are quite simply mistaking the REPONSE to this situation with the CAUSE of it. They're just writing about how COVID will inevitably change the way businesses work and how the landscape for investors will therefore change as result.
They also emphasise that there are high levels of uncertainty and risk for investors e.g. "it is also worth noting that this entire theme could evaporate or become entirely redefined because of a single medical discovery" which in turn means that "the capital applied to it will always be high risk In fact"
They also state that "It doesn’t mean that all the changes we are observing are permanent", partly because it depends on what medical treatments emerge etc.
So if this is all part of some master plan why is so much effort and government money being put into trying to find vaccines? Why are they funding research which risks blowing the whole scheme out of the water - as per the quotes above from the article you yourself posted?
As they state at the start of the article "the temptation to try to simplify that complex morass into something more easily explained is almost irresistible". Ironically that's exactly what you're doing!
@Mark B : you seem not to > @Mark B said:
You seem after all this time not to understand:
As has been pointed out, even if you take the best case: IFR (infection fatality rate) similar to the flu -- the number of deaths if you do nothing would be huge because of lack of immunity. These would both be deaths from the disease itself and deaths of people that die because the pandemic would reduced available healthcare for all sick people.
We already have had previews of what that would look like: Italy, NYC, Spain. And stringent actions were effective though they were taken too late. If the same dynamic were allowed to happen everywhere, we would be talking about death.
No difference in the natural epidemic curve lockdown or not. Face masks or not.
Respiratory illnesses are difficult to control with vaccines. The flu vaccine does not have a high efficacy. This virus will be around a long time.
But we do have a level of existing immunity.
https://www.bmj.com/content/370/bmj.m3563
If you read that article -- which by its own admission is still in the highly speculative period awaiting data -- there MAY be SOME degree of immunity. Scale totally unknown. We know for certain that it is not on the scale of immunity to the flu.
Scale matters.
Hey, man, give it a rest. Enough with the cherry-picked data and the charts without sources or context.
It is one thing to believe that corporations would act cynically in the face of conflict; thus was it ever. It is no surprise that Goldman would draft an official corporate response to the pandemic to protect its capital. But you really want to go further than that, don't you?
You seem self-aware enough to not say out loud what all your arguments hint at: That the universal response of governments to stop the spread of Covid-19 is all part of a plan. (A plan that only brave, disastrous Sweden resisted! Hail, Sverige!) You are either very young or have never risen above middle management to believe in such preposterous coordination among agencies.
Can I ask, is your favorite movie scene that moment in "Close Encounters of the Third Kind" when Richard Dreyfus shucks his gas mask — he sees through the government conspiracy! There ARE aliens!
Lol, you fell for the people dropping dead in the street propaganda. Strange how Sweden survived and now is thought to have immunity.
Here you go with making statements ("Strange how Sweden survived and now is thought to have immunity.") and implying that their truth is widely accepted ("Sweden...is though to have immunity.") when that is an outlier viewpoint. Few think that Sweden has achieved herd immunity. "Sweden survived" furthering your belief that it has done well compared to all other countries -- when in fact its number of deaths per million population has been far greater than countries that dealt with it well.
I say this not to convince you since you seem to have decided to believe only those sources that agree with your initial assessment. I write this for anyone that sees the stuff you post and wonders if there is something to it.
@Mark B I was very interested to see this tweet. It's very long and interesting and is proof of something I suspected and mentioned to you here previously - not all doctors are neutral voices with our best interests at heart. Including Karol Sikora!
https://mobile.twitter.com/Niall001/status/1263883499318185986
I'm putting just one screenshot but the full series of tweets goes into lot more detail