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Half of America disapproves. Half of America approves. In polling.
In voting, in the previous Presidential election, 46.5% of the comparatively low number of people that bother to vote (56% of eligible votes) voted for Trump.
Trump makes me ashamed to be an American. Historically speaking, he's well on track to be the worst President in our history. The amount of damage may never be fully known, since his financial puppeteers are good at covering their tracks. Also, the damage will last for a generation or more, given the judges, the environment, etc.
People who voted for Trump really, really, hurt America. Potentially permanent damage.
For those not familiar with the current state of the USA, it has at least 4 political regions (this is very simplified even still as I'm leaving some states out): the West Coast, the Mid-West, the South, and the North-East. The West Coast and the North East (and to some extent the states along the Canadian border) share many of the same political views. The Mid-West is varied. The South is very strongly conservative as a whole. There are many regional exceptions to this substantial simplification.
OMG! Trump literally just said that the corona virus is outsmarting antibiotics. How does he not know at this point that antibiotics are for bacteria and not viruses.
Sigh
It's a free country I think people have every right to vote for whomever they wanna vote for so if they wanna vote for a xenophobic, racist, bigoted, sexist, homophobe that's their business.... but don't lie about it, it's the lies that are the disgusting part ewww yuck.
I have much more respect for David duke and Richard Spencer than the people who lie about the president while he lies about everything.
The Taliban is xenophobic, racist, bigoted, sexist, and homophobic too, that's why America is against their ideology, so why wouldn't I be against the ideology of the American Taliban who promote the same ideology.... stay vigilant.
I like this stuff. I really get it. People are surprised that I understand it. Every one of these doctors said, 'How do you know so much about this? ' Maybe I have a natural ability. Maybe I should have done that instead of running for president.
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show me a microbiologist that defends this lol
Actual words spoken today by Trump: "Antibiotics used to solve every problem and now one of the biggest problems the world has is the germ has gotten so brilliant that the anti-antibiotic can't keep up with it."
That’s our stable genius at work.
@Max23 : Many of your comments are coming across as not simply critical of Trump but also a condemnation of the people of a nation -- the majority of whom do not approve of Trump. Intentionally or not, your comments sometimes come across as being anti-American (i.e. the people that live here) rather than just being in opposition to the political leaders.
I'd appeal to you to have a bit of empathy for the people that are suffering here and think about how some of your comments might come across.
While I believe that the U.S. has overall responded poorly to the pandemic -- most of Western Europe has as well. If you look at per-capita deaths, the major European countries taken together. faring even worse than the U.S.
I'd also suggest that comparing how the disease is progressing in America versus how it is progressing elsewhere, it is incorrect to compare the U.S. to an individual European country as you have repeatedly done. The U.S. has a vastly larger population than any individual European country.
For example, California (population 39.6 million) has roughly half the population of Germany (population 83 million). There have been only 582 COVID-related deaths in California (that is 15 deaths per million people). Germany stands at about 2700 (that is 33 deaths per million people).
The U.S. population is 327 million people roughly. There currently are 56 deaths per million. Several European countries are at well over 100 deaths per million (U.K. 132, France 202, Italy 312, Spain 344, Belgium 202, Netherlands 147). In some those countries, and the U.S., those numbers will rise considerably.
I take no pleasure in any of this. Since, I don't see you railing against all of those countries, the commentary comes across as being less about America's failure to respond as well as some places have and more about resentment of America.
Rant all you want about Trump, but I'd ask you not to bash Americans as whole or take pleasure in our suffering. (Just as you probably don't want the rest of the world to hold Germans accountable for disastrous decisions by its elected leaders -- past or present).
Did you actually read what I wrote?
Why aren't you railing about how bad things are in the European countries that have failed even more miserably? Why only America -- and why so little empathy? America is not Trump.
(Keeping in mind that I am awfully critical of America's handling of this and of our current government).
I guess I feel like it is our fault because everyone is connected, the truth is that we know how Trump could let trump happen, and we know how Trump supporters could let Trump happen because he and they support the same ideals, but what about people who do not support the permanent separating of children from their parents with not even a plan for a way back together.... allowing that to happen is our fault..... blaming Trump and his ilk only is like blaming water for being wet, what did we really expect....
regarding america, I'm sure Max knows that everybody in America comes from somewhere else so nobody is off the hook
More than anybody it's really my fault for not calling the right fool a fool at the right time
Where do you get the number 50%
Only roughly 42-45% of Americans approve of Trump. I am not saving have more empathy for America -- but you seem to unreservedly heap criticism on the U.S. and wish upon us suffering because of our poor political leadership. You have expressed a lot more thoughts about the U.S.' poor handling than you have about countries with even worse handling.
Max: I only see you railing about American stupidity. Many Europeans have higher per capita death rates than the U.S. and you don't go on and one about them. You don't see me going on and on about Germany which seems to have responded better than the U.S. as a whole but not as well as, for instance, California.
You come across not as railing against stupidity generally, but particularly about America.
You push your success too fast. Try for a small concession on the facts that IMHO you document pretty well. I lived it and have felt the outrage.
Trump ignored learning the functions of the government from the hand off
and staffing for a transition as all incoming Presidents did before.
His team was scheduled to be briefed and just didn't show up. All has gone exactly as one would predict without any attempt at risk management and basic national security.
It's documented clearly:
What are the consequences if the people given control over our government have no idea how it works?
A review of Michael Lewis's The Fifth Risk published in 2018.
https://www.amazon.com/Fifth-Risk-Michael-Lewis/dp/1324002646/ref=tmm_hrd_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=1586565008&sr=1-1
It's going to get real quiet in here if anyone has an open mind. The trail of mistakes leading to our total lack of preparations for a pandemic are documented for history.
My rage has no upper limit... and it only gets worse from here and fools continue to find joy in his fumbling TV clown shows. He's clueless and without any oversight. He has effetely staffed those needs with lackies
excited to enact their misguided view or a moral government. Usually
guided by their faith or more power to rig the system.
The elections will be key... do we have a democracy? Who would protect it now. The states will continue to function according to local norms so there's that.
Again with your numbers game and focus on the U.S. while ignoring countries that have made even more disastrous decisions. America has made terrible mistakes. So has Western Europe.
If your criteria for vilifying no nations is the number of dead and infected. Why aren’t you complaining about the carnage in Western Europe where things are even worse. Western Europe has a smaller population than the U.S. and far more dead.
I am no apologist for the horrible decisions our government has made but you seem single-mindedly obsessed with talking about American mistakes and not those of your neighbors. More than 65,000 dead in Western Europe with 2/3 the population.
I am not suggesting that you should be railing at them, just pointing out that your criteria for target seems not so much based on objective criteria.
I lived in Kaiserslautern starting at 10 years of age. I turned on the TV, there was a shampoo commercial, and the lady in the shower was topless! Then I went to the lake (!). Best thing ever, for a young kid. The 'Yankee Go West' spray-painted on the side of the house was no fun though.
America is prudish, etc, and it's routed in the original Puritan settlers.
I was lucky to live 'off-base' (with the German civilians in town, not on the US military base). My best friend was a German kid named Martin, he was a cool kid who was lucky with the ladies. We used to walk along B40 and talk to the ladies 'working' there. We were 10-13 years old. Fun times.
What's sad was one of the young German girl's mother married an American GI, and she switched schools to the American school on-base. From day 1, the American kids called her 'slut' right to her face just because German kids start experimenting with sex much earlier than American kids. She wasn't promiscuous. Middle school American kids are evil.
And look at the teenage unplanned pregnancy rates in America versus Germany. Much higher with Americans. Americans don't talk about stuff enough, ignoring the truth; those Puritan roots.
Many countries in Europe haven’t seen their peaks. And some states in the U.S. may have. Seems like arbitrary distinctions you are using.
And to what end?
You seem unable to distinguish between the American people and the government and seem to haphazardly pick statistics to use as a basis for gloating. Intended or not, you come across as taking some sort of pleasure in what is happening here and seem to show no empathy for the fact that many here are victims.
Your talk of people getting what they deserve (made earlier in the thread along with similar comments)is quite frankly heartless...particularly when the majority of the country does not approve of how the federal government is behaving. None of us here are responsible for the system of government. Nor are you responsible for yours.
Perhaps regions in the U.S. will experience the pandemic as badly as those regions of Europe where the pandemic has hit particularly hard. I will not gloat because of the fact that I am fortunate enough to live in a region where the state government acted proactively and where things seem to have been handled even better than in Germany (if one is judging, as you are, by deaths).
My good fortune is not by virtue of some superiority. I was lucky enough to be born in California. I would not for a moment think of saying that the people that live in those states where it is worse deserve what is happening to them or imply that the French, Italians, Spanish, British, Belgians, etc. in any way deserve what is happening to them.
Have a little heart.
I've read every post in this discussion (which you likely haven't done since you mistook my sarcasm several times now
) and in no way do I take offense to Max's remarks. Sure, some may call him insensitive, snarky, an alarmist, but he's a nurse and he's seeing this sh*t first-hand. He obviously doesn't like Trump, but I see no anti-American sentiment, or blatant ignorance regarding 'Merica. He's just ranting, and this a rant thread, so deep analysis isn't required. 
@Sequencer1 wrote “I've read every post in this discussion (**which you likely haven't done ** since you mistook my sarcasm several times now
) ”
I’d be cautious about judging whether someone read your words carefully or not based on whether someone picked up on your intended tone or irony. Not detecting sarcasm is not necessarily a sign of not reading thoughtfully. Sarcasm and irony can be very hard to accurately interpret in online communication, particularly with people you don’t know.
lets see what the people do about it, whether they choose to reinforce the Presidents delusion that he's a king or not.
I'm in total solidarity with you on that focus this year. Down with the tyrant and return the
power to "We the People". He's ruthless and we need massive numbers to establish a clear mandate that's uncontestable.