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Super app and thanks for the updates but wouldn’t it be better if the arrangement window stayed open when playing an arrangement so you can see which one it’s playing
Not evident but awesome. Thanks!
Last night there was something weird going on with the App Store because when I updated PM there was no Any/Set slider. There was another update this morning and the slider is there now.
Hi @NimboStratus,
I understand that you would want to see the arrangement window while the arrangement is being auditioned, but that isn't how things are configured for playing music in the app (all playing is done in the main screen). If you audition the arrangement from the Arrange screen, you should be able to see which section of the arrangement is playing (although some people have been having issues with this). This currently doesn't work when using MIDI Out , but I am going to see if I can make it work in that mode too. Hopefully that will help.
Cool thanks!
By the way I am using an iPad Pro with a 10.5 inch screen, so if it’s truncated, I don’t think it’s because of the size of my screen. I am running iOS 14.4.2.
When I auditioned with the midi out turned off, I could finally see the main screen update with the sections and the time marker changing. So it’s working, I just wish I could use my own instrument instead. I can live with it the way it is. Also, a very, very minor thing, why not just use the words ON and OFF where the midi out selection is? Looking at the words DIS and EN ... the abbreviations that are being used are slightly confusing.
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Yes I was aware of this and thank you for making it easier to arrange blocks.
Actually, when the developer said to turn off the Midi out, everything worked fine and I had real time updates on sections and time. But thanks for pointing that out anyway.
I’m enjoying these themes merging from the latest update:
I’m not sure the drone option for accomp style is working at least the way I think it should but maybe I don’t have something set correctly. I’m only hearing the melody all by itself with no accompaniment at all. Can someone else confirm? Thanks
Hi @yowza, the drone option will only be obvious when the accompaniment is played on an instrument with a more constant sustain level, like a synth pad instrument, and not a piano sound. The accomp is basically a note which is held for the whole duration of the motif, or sometimes twice if the same sequence is repeated in the motif. Here is an example using an organ sound in GarageBand for the accompaniment:
A great ABACA arrangement!
After I wrote this I started wondering about the song "Abacab" by Genesis and thought maybe it was referring to the song structure. And guess what, it sort of was
(probably a lot of you already knew this, but I didn't)
From Wikipedia:
"The title is taken from the structure of an early version of the song. Guitarist Mike Rutherford explained in an interview in 2006:
[There are] three bits of music in "Abacab" and we refer to them as 'bit A', [correcting self] 'Section A', 'Section B', and 'Section C'. And at different times they were in a different order. We'd start with section A and then have section C and then have section [pauses] and at one point in time, it spelt "ABACAB". And you've got the final version where it's not that at all, it's like "ACACACUCUBUBUGA"."
OK, a couple things you should know about this (rough) PM creation. There has been no editing of the notes. This composition is strictly a PM composition. I do however want to go through a process of doing MIDI edits and changing some of the melody lines, adding tracks and other instrumentation through progressive disclosure. But I believe the foundation is there.
The other thing you might notice is that it’s an very long piece (sorry) It probably should be about 5 minutes (about half) instead of 9. At the time I created the motifs, I didn’t anticipate that there would be the Arrangement function or I would’ve made some sections much shorter. So please excuse that. It’s intended to be a slower ambient, haunty piece. If you can sit through the entire piece, I think you will see that this new arrangement function is really nice when trying to complete an idea before it leaves PM to make its journey to the next stage of its development.
For those of you who might be wondering about sound and texture, I am using the Ravenscroft 275 piano app for the accompaniment and the Digital D1 synthesizer app for the melody, with various effects on both.
Click file below and choose “view” instead of “download.“
You nailed it... it's hauntingly lovely. I like the synth voice you chose... Is it a standard preset
or something you tweaked by hand?
It’s in Bank A of Digital D1 and it is called “Star Sailer.” I may have modified it a little bit but I do not remember for sure, otherwise it should be pretty much the same. The main difference is, I used compression and shimmer on the melody line to give it a ghost like sound. I’m also using a backwards delay on the piano to give it that eerie effect.
I am interested in this Atom program that you use. I don’t know much about it but, after listening to your compositions, I think this would be a program worth investigating. I like a lot of what you are doing using that.
Atom or LK can import the MIDI's you save from Piano Motifs. I always save as 2 files: accompaniment and melody. Then I make a lot of variation saves from the save settings.
The accompaniments will be the same generally but the melodies will vary.
I import an accompaniment and many melodies in LK or Atom and assign the tracks
to different instruments.
The only part of LK you need to buy to do this is called "Matrix". You can import dozens of MIDI's and launch them in groups (scenes) using the LK GUI.
"Atom 2" requires an AUv3 instance for each MIDI import... so in AUM you end up with
4-10 Atom instances. Atom 2 automatically maps it's start/stops to the PADs on a LanuchPad
MIDI control surface.
You could also import MIDI's into Xequence 2... I started that way but prefer LK because it runs inside AUM.
Can you use LK’s Matrix only if you have Ableton Live?
I don’t want to get into an added learning curve.
I would also get into more expense buying both Ableton and LK.
Is LK a standalone application and can it be used with AUM?
Can you edit individual notes while in the Matrix or is the Matrix only for clip launching?
Did you buy the Chorder in LK and if you did, what did you think?
I’m trying to decide on buying either one or the other. Or should I buy both?
Right now, after reading the descriptions in the App Store, I’m guessing that Atom 2 is the way to go for me. I will make a decision based on your answers to my questions. I realize I have maybe asked a few too many questions, but I can only thank you for taking the time!
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Great to see you creatively arranging motifs and giving them an eerie and haunting vibe.
It's designed to bring the Ableton ideas to the iPad/IOS. You then use a DAW like AUM
to assign Apps to MIDI channels. Imaginando does lots of training videos on YouTube to
show the details.
Good point. I had to watch a couple videos to learn it. But once mastered it's very powerful.
Yes. Both are available options.
The Matrix has a piano roll editor beneath the PAD window to edit individual MIDI streams
as assigned to the PADs.
I bought all the IAP's and the chorder is pretty magical.
Can't speak to Ableton... I try to avoid desktop products to save the addictive spending costs.
It appears LK was designed to make the iPad/iPhone app to act like a control
surface for Ableton... like a LaunchPad as an app. But using it with AUM is a great way to just do it all within IOS.
"Atom 2" (Atom "one" should be avoided, IMHO) is very simple to learn compared to LK and is designed for AUM to arrange the row-column design of so many hardware control surfaces and the physical hardware can be mapped to start/stop Atom 2 instances (optionally).
LK is useful to be the control surface for the Atom 2 instances by the way.
These MIDI based apps consume very little CPU resource so you can make large networks of Atoms instances controlled by LK but the Synths will quickly
get you into CPU trouble... light weight synths help.
@mjcouche taught me that iSymphonic when loaded as an IAA App can configure multiple instruments across the 0-15 MIDI channels in a single
runtime and NOT face the 340 MB RAM limits of the AUv3 version. Good for
multi-track Piano Motif generated compositions with A, B, C sections.
What I like with the control surfaces is the ability to change scenes on shorter
intervals like 4 bars, 2 bars or even 1 beat for slow compositions.
Based on all your answers, I think I’m going to try Atom 2.
Thank you so much for taking the time to help! It is deeply appreciated!
Some fantastic uses of Piano Motifs here, well done everybody. Thought I would have a go and I couldn’t remember a track where PM played the drums as well so here is my shortish, moody(ish) track..
![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/9za9A2wDzWg/0.jpg)
Very cinematic!
When a piece of music evokes images (and feelings) within the minds eye,
for me that’s the best kind of music!
A suggestion. Now that we have sections trough the Arrangement function, I have at least 4, 5 or 6 parts to the same song. And they’re getting scattered across the library. Is it doable to have folders within the library listings? (yes Fernando, you’ve created another small monster) It would help organizing several parts (theme, bridge, chorus, interludes, ending) into one song folder and to make it easier to find everything in one place.
And oh yes, more scales please! (maybe something more exotic this time, like. ... Hamsadhvani (quite beautiful) ... Japanese, Arabic, Balinese, Augmented, etc.)
It’s never ending ... right?![:) :)](https://forum.loopypro.com/resources/emoji/smile.png)
And here’s a curious note, and it’s not a bad thing.
I’ve experimented and have realized that when you save your motifs in an Arrangement, if for some reason you decide to (or accidentally) delete the original motif, it doesn’t delete it from the arrangement. And I think that’s a good thing!
This PM sort of reminds me of the Charlie Brown music scores. (No note edits, just arranged)
Yup. To address your first comments, I did some detective work too. I saved melody and accompaniment in PM separately. When I opened each in Xequence2, three tracks showed up. In the case of the melody, only the melody part had notes. In the case of the accompaniment, only the accompaniment part had notes. But the presence of those empty tracks in the MIDI file was enough to make choosing the part in LK difficult. When I deleted the empty tracks in X2 and re-exported the MIDI, only the populated track showed up when importing into LK, which made that easier.
I haven’t tried this yet, but I suspect if you did the PM MIDI export as a combined MIDI, you could import only track 1 to a track in LK, and then track2 to a second LK track.
But... I wonder if the MIDI saves in PM could exclude empty tracks when you ask for melody and accompaniment separately.
I think this represents the intention of the app very well... lovely
Piano Compositions without lessons.
Weird question for a new AUM user, how could I start/stop PM directly from AUM?
I am pretty sure PM does not work with AUM or Audiobus.
PM is neither an IAA nor an AUV3 capable program.
I can send midi to AUM