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Velocity KB has nice velocity sensing, but does t send glide and slide messages? It doesn’t seem to for me.
It does! U need to set up pitch bend, mpe settings and cc74 settings in the settings section of the app. They all work fine.
Only problem with cc74 is that if you have a lot of rows, the vertical space to control this is limited, but I guess linnstrument has the same problem.
That might work well, actually
AFAIK, midi sequencers are basically useless with fundamental ATM. (That's part of what I meant by it's way less midi friendly than Mononoke.) Yes, I've given them feedback. The dev is all about the stochastic modulators, and making apps that users control through those. Putting MPE at all seems like a response to Hainbach's desire to use it with a morph — rather than a feature set the dev was designing for in the first place. Their response to my messages made it seem unlikely that they will provide more extensive support for things like MPE mod curves (which roli hardware badly needs), and for vanilla single channel midi note control. But maybe if more people ask...
That said, now that I think of it, I wouldn't be surprised if there were neat (and easy) ways on iOS of using things like Mozaic to convert midi data into the range of MPE messages Fundamental responds to. On desktop, I haven't spent time setting up custom midi processing to do that because I'm happy to control fundamental through the GUI + daw automation/modulation (Bitwig). Fundamental makes working without midi controllers/sequencers fun...
Well, they definitely should be listening to this kind of thing, because if they release it and say it is mpe but it doesn't work properly with anything except the morph, people are - very rightly - going to be pissed. The lack of midi support sounds disturbing too, unless Sinan is planning on porting those to iOS at the same time as Fundamental comes out. Thnx for the update. @ohwell
Oh it does work with mpe. It’s just a barebones implementation that benefits from custom processing between Eg roli controllers and the app. They aren’t lying, just not doing it with flying colors..
Sure, of course I'm not saying they are lying. I'm just saying that mpe users are really sick and tired of sub-optimal implentations of mpe.
The UI looks fun, reminds me of old electronics lab equipment.
But who would want that sound? I expected more than that...
This would be a rather easy job to do in Drambo or miRack.
Anyway, one question to the mpe guys:
What MPE controller do you use, and can you re-map pitch bend to send CC instead?
I use Roli Seaboard blocks, they can't do that to my knowledge but I could be wrong.
the Linnstrument has 8 cc faders for each of the splits. So you can have 16 cc faders if you don’t want to send notes.
The Lin’s software is also open source so you can also mess with the code.
Would this help?
From Svein Johansen on the roli support forum:
Sounds like you can map slides to CC using the roli dashboard?
If not, I suppose it could be done with Mozaic.
Original thread:
https://support.roli.com/support/discussions/topics/36000010805
I had a quick go of the demo on desktop yesterday, using velocity keyboard to drive it and my first thought was that I’d be inspired to try and make something equally mad in something modular, either way it would be well spent time...
You just spoke out my first thought about the app when I've heard the sounds 😉
From Hainbach’s latest vid - his submission to Apple is approved, the iOS app drops 29th August.
...juuuust in time for my next paycheck and the Morph I ordered to both come in. 🤣
@celtic_elk : nice! I’ll get the app immediately, but I have to rest my purse a month or two before I can spring for the Morph. Be interested to hear what you think of them in combo when you’ve had a bit of a play.
So tomorrow is the great day?
Hainbach said on his twitter feed a couple of days ago "You never know with all the Apple bureaucracy attached, so soonish"
Looking forward to Fundamental, great to have access to the authentic sound of these vintage machines.
Although one could think "what can I do with this?" - but we have many tools and ways to manipulate and get creative with it.
It has been approved, so is definitely imminent ✌️
Yay - can't wait, even though I just got the desktop version with the Sensel discount...👍
https://apps.apple.com/it/app/fundamental/id1526745452
Tadan 🤟🤟🤟
I think that I need a @Gavinski tutorial👍 After 5 minutes of playing with it at least I was able to make it emit a sound😂
Parameters ⚡️
Your screenshot looks like you can sequence it?!? Play with AUMs onscreen midi keyboard?
Presets for desktop
https://www.sonic-lab.com/Fundamental/PresetBanks/
No it was wondering just about it.
I was only able to make it sounds pressing the trigger button.
Just when I thought I was out, they pull me back in
Totally random just to give you an idea.
I'm so torn on this one. The price seems mostly reasonable and I love pretty much all of Hainbach's creative work.
It's just that I have so many freakin' apps now. Most off of them are excellent in their own ways. I'm embarrassed to say that I don't think I could run out of creative audio play time if I never got another app for the rest of my life.
And yet...
Is this one at least fun in a way that no other app is?